BMX Buyers Beware. Fake GT and Dyno frames and parts

[@csharp57]

Grateful for this video. We as older people with money get caught up in nostalgia. I’ve purchased to mid school bmx that were probably 200% made overseas. I think I’ll stop my collection there. If I want another I’ll just a Monza and call it a day. Thanks for the informative video

[@re-rides]

Thanks for watching.

[@ReVolt_e-Vlogs]

They're both fake bikes?

[@271chrissy]

Great advice.....I can see why people make things for their bike ...but to copy and sell these items is just fraud.And some poor sucker is left with a dud.

[@re-rides]

Yep. I don’t mind people who make recreated parts and decals etc. So long as they don’t try to sell them as original.

[@eiyhka8779]

Shame that alot of people are going to being buying fake parts that won't see this vid or just doesn't have the knowledge..Thanks alot for posting

[@re-rides]

Cheers

[@LT-og4ff]

Extracted for BMXMUSEUM Here is an email I got from an actual employee of GT: "There were at least four companies in Taiwan that made the GT lines : Robinson, Dyno, Powerlite and Auburn included) If the frame was made overseas in Taiwan, it gets more complicated. If the number starts with a K, the frame was made by Kinesis. The information might also come in handy for deciphering other makes because the factories in Taiwan make bikes for a lot of different companies." Those lower end bmx might be made in Taiwan by original GT?

[@re-rides]

Cheers

[@deeredude]

I just found a complete and original 1999 Dyno Zone in the trash yesterday. That gave me the bug again 😊

[@re-rides]

Oh wow!

[@MrShawnRichardson]

Too bad I didn’t catch this video before I bought the EBay GT at the end of your video. Hell when it came in, I realized the bottom bracket is welded in upside down covering part of the serial number. But what do I do now except build it I guess.

[@re-rides]

Hey mate. We’ve all made mistakes. I’m still making them lol.

[@NewEdgeDesigns]

Make a video showing it.. life hands lemons make lemonade type thing..

[@someguyontheinternet-]

I could be mistaken, but i believe that bike at 02:20 is a Royce Union. They were really similar to GT in design, and waaaay cheaper

[@re-rides]

Thanks for the info.

[@B1FFCO]

Dyno compes and airs from early 90s have a downwards bend in the top tube before the seat tube

[@re-rides]

sure do

[@Rick-td5ej]

I've just restored and resprayed my old gt mid school dyno in my spray booth between cars. Don't know what to do about decals as the original s where all scuffed up . Serial no is the way to go Great vid and advise.

[@re-rides]

thanks mate

[@ratrodramblin]

eBay is a good source for decal sets. Some are pricey but great for restoration.

[@bigmikewrecks8564]

Dude oversees makes them

[@ng3083]

There will be no justice until those unaffected, are as as outraged as the ones who are. Help stamp out bmx crime, awareness is our best defense.

[@re-rides]

Knowledge and awareness is the key.

[@luapco1516]

Went to a swap meet in the 90s and bought some fake cheap GT bars. Put them on went fine for a day. Then hit a jump landed and the bars blew out at the welds. Luckily didnt get very hurt. So beware of any part or bike that seems like too good of a deal

[@re-rides]

Great advice.

[@KELOC1]

How can I look my dyno frame up from the serial numbers? It was painted over, but the bike store said it’s a compe. Nothing pulls up online. Thanks for the fakes tips

[@re-rides]

You can’t look up you’re serial. There was never a serial registry. Most bikes had telltale signs of what they were. Could be brakes, head tube size, or geometry etc.

[@keanvanderwesthuizen3476]

Any one who is into bmx should be aware of fakes didn't know they were out there but they are I guess we have to pay attention on what we are buying especially bmx parts same as buying car parts fake cheap shit so understand what he is telling us thanks for the video mate much appreciated 👍

[@re-rides]

Thanks for watching. We really do have to check what we are buying.

[@ricaneva3896]

I remember when I was a kid there where a lot of fake parts in the swapmeets in Mexico a lot of knee saver bars and parts in the 90s they were made almost identical but with no stamps saw a lot of those fake gt performer frames some with just stickers instead of stamps

[@re-rides]

A lot of cheaper bike companies copied the Haro Kneesaver. Was crazy. Cheers

[@johnbesse7903]

I have an old GT I’m trying to determine what it is how do I show you photos or even look up its serial number?

[@re-rides]

Send me an email to [e-mail] cheers

[@chrisbracco5374]

Thanks for ur video. I got suckered by the last gt on ebay a year ago. Same exact description

[@re-rides]

Sorry to hear Chris. Any chance you can email me some photos? info (at) re-rides (dot) com I'd love to take a look. Cheers

[@chrisbracco5374]

@@re-rides I will send the pictures tomorrow and I check its the same guy who sold me my fake gt frame and folks

[@Rx7Fc88]

Dang just bought bike that looks some what identical to the ones you showed but for 120 with some real gt and odyssey parts I don’t feel too bad on (checked the parts already good parts the frame was making me double judge it though) but oh well lesson learned, Thank you for the video helped a lot 👍🏼

[@re-rides]

Check the serial. Usually the best way to tell.

[@Rx7Fc88]

@@re-rides I did nothing came up on google, # is 96TD363510 nothing else is stamped on the frame just someone put some good parts on it which by the naked eye I thought it was a gt also had a diamond back quill stem from back in the 90s

[@citizendualsport8743]

7:19 the bent down tube + straight fork on a Comp is a dead give away - just plain sacrilege man!

[@re-rides]

Sure is

[@dicksonngzihao88]

I happened to own one of the fake dyno , do you know the if frame is chromoly or hi-tensile

[@dicksonngzihao88]

Got it since 1998

[@armandomunoz4580]

Chromoly is genuine 80S GT

[@re-rides]

I'd expect the fakes ate just Hi-Ten

[@American_Made]

Many of the pics you showed are even easier to spot, just look at the welds and learn the difference between good and bad heliiarc welds. That is a big tell. I am a welder and can spot the wrong welds pretty quickly.

[@re-rides]

Not so easy for non welders though.

[@grahamchan4266]

Awesome content! Hey would you able to look into the fake seat posts coming from Asia?

[@re-rides]

There are so many fake parts around

[@frankiem749]

Yeah basically these are royce union/pacific bicycles with GT decals and fake stampings. That one dyno may have been an original stamped plate welded on to a different/ newer frame. And only the 1987 Pro Performer/Freestyle Tour GT had under bottom bracket mounted brakes but never v-brake style. Don't remember which model but it was only one of those two possibly very late '86 but not after '87. The 1988 models I believe were no longer offered with under bottom bracket brakes not sure on this.

[@re-rides]

Cheers Frankie for the info

[@kevinrodriguez9701]

All The regular 87 performers had the bottom bracket mounted brakes made by chan star. And I believe the pro performers/ pro freestyle tours had día compe 990 bottom bracket brakes.

[@dougEfresh1224]

Got an old Haro frame and forks from the early mid 80’s I’ve had in storage .. We traded bikes and parts as kids so much that I’m not sure what i have .. It has all the frame stamps and dropout design of an 85-86 Haro sport but the serial numbers don’t match anything? I called Haro corporate directly and ask them about it and they said that the database is so massive due to them producing so many bikes back then without documenting each factory outsourcing that they are now forced to refer people to their pictorial database for one to find the correct year based on frame design and color match… Has anyone seen Haro’s with abnormal serial numbers that is all numbers and start with a 6 and ends with 85? Thanks !

[@re-rides]

There’s some very good Haro Facebook groups with a bunch of super knowledgeable guys. They will be able help for sure.

[@thebfam6191]

I need help I have a gt sy5g9756 model but not sure what that means?

[@re-rides]

I’d need to see a photo to be sure of the date. Can you send a pic of the whole frame to [e-mail].

[@baileyIrishCream6984]

Is Sportscheck selling Fake GT bikes put of there stores because if it is then how come GT is not sueing Sports check.

[@re-rides]

Not sure on that one. Maybe other viewers can answer. Anyone?

[@cyberlizardcouk]

the dyno compe had a bent downtube at one point, but it looked much neater than that.

[@re-rides]

Yea the 99 did i think. you're right.

[@workingshlub8861]

i got the compe that looks like the slammer with the bent downtube....late 90s..

[@44roger44]

Hey! Have a question about my bike and was hoping you could help

[@re-rides]

Fire away.

[@44roger44]

@@re-rides sorry for the delay reply.. work. Any how. My question is would you be able to tell me what kind of bike I have? For about 25+ years I’ve always thought I had a hutch bike… and well I started looking up hutch bikes and couldn’t find anything that looks like what I have . The frame kinda looks like a kuwahara but the forks and handlebars are definitely hutch.. I’m about to restore it and would like to know more about it. I also have an aluminum pk ripper early to mid 80s.

[@hairlessharescrambler56]

How about all of the gt laid back seatposts people are buying on Amazon for 20 bucks and after putting a correct gt sticker on them selling on ebay for around 80 plus 50 for shipping been alot of those

[@re-rides]

so many hey

[@stuntfrenchy5374]

Does anyone know if the Dyno blast and Dyno compe had the same frame from factory. With the difference being the decals? TIA.

[@re-rides]

Sorry not syre

[@stuntfrenchy5374]

re-rides thanks

[@joshpodejko7305]

Very happy with. Worked as well as i expected

[@re-rides]

Great.

[@timaragon6099]

Damm cant believe there is fake Dynos out there, I Have A 98 Dyno Compe Chrome Got it for Christmas in 98 but I changed a feww parts out over the years I have a feww videos of me riding it

[@re-rides]

Nice. I've had a few over the years. All gone now.

[@borneoben14]

In my country Indonesia; there’s a fake GT copied with serial YF since 86/87 looks identical with the OG, but if you looks closely you will find the different between the OG one. When they were released bitd 86/87 some with goods parts on it such as skyway mags. And after I found some old man sellers at some bikes shop here around 1999-2000 who still live, they tell me that those (fake) bike was ordered by them from taiwan (some re-build -welding in my country) to reduce the price. Not only the GT, some top brand like Diamondback and some others were copied also.

[@re-rides]

Thanks for the info

[@firedemon2166]

How many were ordered?

[@davidmckee2989]

Singapore was full of these copies too.

[@millionaire7809]

Re-rides if u buy ur gt dyno from Store Dicks could it be fake or it's real

[@re-rides]

Not sure.

[@rgw1380rw]

That bike in the thumbnail looks like a crappy Pacific or Royce Union 😂!

[@re-rides]

It does yes. Stamped GT. But it ain't a GT.

[@rgw1380rw]

@@re-rides 👍

[@stevecabapolous1172]

Damn I bought a fake GT frame. Any way to tell if the parts are fakes too?

[@re-rides]

Hey steve send me pics of the bike to [e-mail] I'll take a look. Include the serial number also.

[@nb6584]

Those fake GT's look to be most likely older Royce Union's with fake stamp.

[@re-rides]

Sure do.

[@dynamike7108]

I just called someone out on EBay trying to sell fake GT Stiletto forks☹️

[@re-rides]

Would love to see them. Can you email me a link?

[@dynamike7108]

I’ve tried replying with what to look for twice and my replies are gone. They’re on eBay now misspelled stilletto, the only ones I believe

[@claytonkirby878]

Good too know thanks .I have a 92 93 gt inter ceptor. Dyno stem gt seat. It's real .. but I can understand people trying to fake with rewards or added tubing.. but probably looks awful..

[@re-rides]

Thanks again.

[@giancarlogiambarresi346]

Great video you need to make another bud

[@re-rides]

Working on it

[@joeyripswell]

people suck. as much as i wanted to find something simple from the mid '90s like i once had, it really didnt seem worth it at all. collecting has to be an art and a process of care and detail. i just wanted to ride. it only took a few searches for me realize the value of a new and modern bike. i miss the old Mongoose but the new Colony is fantastic. GL gents

[@re-rides]

Nice one. I do try to get out on my old school and mid school bikes. Certainly not as often as I would like. But that’s more to do with a lack of time than desire. And definitely not as as hard as I once did. That’s to do with aged bones. There is definitely a difference between collecting and riding. But thankfully one doesn’t exclude the other. Enjoy.

[@joeyripswell]

@@re-rides yep. i had a mongoose expert pro in powder coat blue. very snazzy. race bike but i loved it at 14 years old 1996ish. sold it for $100 cause i needed a two 12" subs and the rest of the sterio system. cause im an idiot lol. same bike is selling for $800 now. the money doesnt matter. i spent quite a bit on my colony apprentice. i just wish i still had it. ✌️

[@yungninja223]

Also every real gt has this little ring around the top tube under the baring races I think it goes for Dyno as well but I could be wrong about Dyno every real gt has the ring tho forsure if u know your bikes and you collect them then you know right away what’s fake and what’s not

[@re-rides]

Cheers for that. The real problem is people who are just coming into the hobby that might not know all the details. We have to help our brothers out with the knowledge.

[@tonycantu1436]

S8EY08500, can you identify a dyno ? Thanks

[@re-rides]

Only that it would be a 1999 model. Don’t know the which from the serial though.

[@nowherebrain]

I'm not concerned with something being fake...as long as it isdecent quality, and same dimensions...I prefer to ride the old geometry...new bikes are actually very bad to me...ht angle always around 75..and just the extra inch in the top tube etc etc...it's hard to find a frame for flatland and general riding...the old bikes were great for everything.

[@re-rides]

80's and 90's BMX are def my thing

[@MrFroggy29]

I have a Verde 2017 model, 74degres head angle 👍 good for all

[@derrickcurtis2793]

literally looks like every dyno zone I've seen.

[@re-rides]

😂

[@Elhamburitto]

I have a 1994 gt dyno vfr how do I tell if it's real or fake

[@re-rides]

It will have a genuine Dyno serial. And be stamped in multiple places.

[@gogreen392]

Are they faking haro bikes ??

[@re-rides]

Fake everything.

[@therepresentative1619]

They are so bad.The old guys can tell right off the back.

[@re-rides]

Those GT fakes are pretty easy to spot. Im about to do another video on fake Haro’s. Much harder to tell.

[@Eric-im1li]

Those crome gts are Royce union bikes i had one

[@re-rides]

Thanks for the info.

[@richardjohnson5577]

These all look like Canadian 80s and 90s bmx bikes...if you look up raleigh and norco frames they copied many frame designs from multiple bikes and usually added more than one in their bike designs.

[@re-rides]

sure do

[@stecarson2198]

Just need help as I'm not to good at this stuff

[@re-rides]

Send me an email with photos of the whole frame and your serial number. [e-mail]

[@danielarney9729]

Powerlite dropouts. We don't know what prototypes they made, or are making with the parts left over from the past, present, future. Some of this stuff is probably better welds than before, unless it's mig welded Royce union frames from 89. The people in Taiwan are making bikes and have been making bikes for the whole damn world of every quality level according to order, and still get bagged on. We are pathetic.

[@re-rides]

I think these are Royce Unions with GT stamping welded on.

[@Funnycircleda]

Lol you can see instantly the quality issues whats the problem?

[@re-rides]

Sure can

[@stecarson2198]

If give you my frame number can you check it for me as I have a dyno

[@re-rides]

No worries

[@meenwc131]

Thanks for sharing man

[@re-rides]

No problem 👍

[@internalinjectiontrulyhere770]

Some are worth but in exact

[@re-rides]

I actually wouldn't mind one.

[@manuelalcala3691]

WHERE CAN I BUY ONE ORIGINAL BIKE

[@re-rides]

Give eBay a look. Plenty there.

[@anthonynaceanceno3013]

Just remember fake is the new real nowadays & it sure is selling whether they are the real are not im guessing the real thing for now is to enjoy life even if you have a fake partner

[@re-rides]

Yea times change.

[@Matthew1618-vh5en]

Robinson gusset.

[@re-rides]

Cheers

[@tonymarchant2860]

The welds are shit an you can just tell

[@re-rides]

Totally

[@marcuscunningham1291]

Fake gt frame bike Looks cheap looking Any pro bmxer can spot that fake gt out .... And the frame looks ugly and cheap . Looks Like a cheap Rhino bmx frame

[@re-rides]

could be

[@workingshlub8861]

cheap looking welds is always a dead giveaway..

[@rahmatpermata5650]

GT . Woaaahhw jae-doel

[@re-rides]

Yep.

[@dividojo]

Who's making these fake frames? Wouldn't it cost more to make a fake one than the money you make from selling it (faking it)?

[@re-rides]

exactly

[@raynardbmx]

there not fake just cheap chinese made frames sold to WALMART AND TARGET back in the days

[@re-rides]

Thanks for watching.

[@fherlob_various5831]

Totalmente falsas...

[@re-rides]

Thanks for watching.

[@vickypepa4639]

Q

[@re-rides]

Cheers

[@manuelchavez2616]

Copia

[@re-rides]

Yep

[@radkesrods1184]

plenty of GTs had brakes underneath..... just saying.

[@re-rides]

Yessir