Boardwalk Hall- Double Languids

[@MegaMobass]

Brant is a national treasure as much as the Organ itself. It’s amazing that he’s still able to do the voicing. What an extremely talented person.

[@markkonchan5468]

I greatly enjoy ALL of your video’s about this organ. Thank you for the time and effort you put into this project. THANK YOU

[@cnagorka]

You're welcome, I enjoy seeing people enjoy the videos.

[@louiscoryell5058]

Good introduction to double languids and voicing in general. First time I have seen anyone voice pipes.

[@cnagorka]

Yes it's strange that there isn't more of that material out there.

[@DrpanProductions]

I find the technical side of things very interesting and intriguing. as a person who struggles with SEVERE ADHD, when it is presented in a way that is entertaining and engaging, I can understand it perfectly. Wish i had more people like you Chris who are obviously very passionate about what they do because maybe I wouldn't have struggled so bad.

[@cnagorka]

That's good to hear.

[@dougbackman7788]

As this video and Brant show, Double Languids are not something to be thought of as alchemy or voodoo. When you make a flue pipe an especially large scale (+10HT) and blow it on more than 15", you typically get a very fluty, cloying, fundamental tone. Now, if one places a beard on the front of the pipe and skives (sharpens) the upper lip, that helps excite the wind sheet at the mouth of the pipe but does nothing to the rear. The double languid's effect is nothing more than an internal beard at the rear of the languid, drawing stagnant air from the rear of the pipe forward so it may act upon the upper lip. This allows two things: One, you can blow the hell out of the pipe for a given cut up and it will speak without overblowing, and there are actually some Diaphone flue trebles in the Pedal Left that speak on 50". Two, you get a blaze of harmonic development with all of the body and carrying power typically gained from large scaled pipework on high wind pressure.

[@Bronzeagleye]

Midmer-Losh also put a Double Languid in the Church of the Assumption in Ansonia CT, Opus 5519, 1929.

[@ethanlamoureux5306]

For someone like me, having been interested in the pipe organ for many years, this video is fascinating. Thank you for going into detail and demonstrating!

[@PalmPeakMarketing]

Came from watching your old videos, glad to see you still make them!

[@cnagorka]

How old?😆 My oldest videos had nothing to do with organ work and go back to 2011...I can't believe that's 13 years ago now.

[@PalmPeakMarketing]

@@cnagorka10 years ago, the turn signal repair video.

[@cnagorka]

@@PalmPeakMarketing Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. That car is in storage right now awaiting its turn in the garage to get back on the road.

[@PalmPeakMarketing]

@@cnagorkaOoh okay.

[@tedphillips2501]

Chris is an extremely talented person who I was privileged to see get his organ builder's certificate in 1988 at the Hartford convention of the American Institute of Organ builders. It's great he is involved in the restoration of this huge instrument.

[@cnagorka]

Hi Ted! I've thought about you as I still occasionally use some stuff you gave me back in the '90s!

[@Ippatron]

I learned so much from this video that I think I wouldn't have learned frome anyone else! Really great job and great video! I wish I could work on organs too but I'm an electrician hahahah

[@cnagorka]

Electricians can work on organs 😁

[@Ippatron]

@@cnagorka I really wish! I don't even have a diploma since I dropped out of high school two years ago on the third year... and I live in Italy so I don't even know where to start. In America there are lots of organ companies and lots of organs to work onto! Maybe one day this dream comes true

[@JonasClark]

Mid-Jone, I'll finally get out there to see this monster for myself. I really hope whoever gives the tours is somewhere close to being as knowledgeable as Brant.

[@cnagorka]

The rest of the crew is plenty knowledgeable.

[@RJayH457]

There is a double languid 16-8 Major Bass unit (wood Bourdon) on 6” in the pedal of Skinner Opus 830 (1930) in the chapel of Immaculate Conception Seminary, Huntington, NY. The organ was designed by G. Donald Harrison and exhibits his early use of tapered Diapasons. The chamber had no room left for an ample pedal organ.

[@cnagorka]

Interesting- never heard of that one.

[@barnarus2547]

Truly compelling little video on another of the endless depth of topics related to this fascinating instrument. Looking forward to the hall comparison.

[@namelessone3339]

I've been waiting for years to get any explanation about double languid pipes--thanks so much!

[@cnagorka]

I would say "you're welcome" by name but since you don't have a name I won't.

[@jerryorvold]

I worked on pipe organs over 60 yrs, and never had the "pleasure" of dealing with double languids. But I always wondered about the actual construction. I I did manage to get a pic taken of a larger pipe mouth during a tour, but could't see to the back. So thanks for a very instructive video!

[@briandusell961]

Thank you so much for your Boardwalk Hall videos. Thank you also for the planning and improvements to production quality that you have put into them. There may be others out there, but this is the first actual flue voicing Video that I have seen on YT. Suggestion for a future video: Could you make a video of Brant Fixing the tonal finishing on a BW hall organ rank. A before, in process, and after.

[@EElgar1857]

I've been interested in organs my whole life, but have never understood even basic voicing, until now. Thanks! 😁

[@cnagorka]

That's why I did it that way, it's something that gets talked about constantly but not demonstrated.

[@JIMD6370]

​@@cnagorka absolutely a great video not only of the M-L, but the best I've seen of basic voicing.

[@dougbackman7788]

Practically all of the double languid diapasons, flutes, and strings have both beards and double languids in their bass octaves.

[@micb1232]

Man I love the organ, wish I was up that way so I could visit more often. at-least we have the Ca' d'Zan organ (opus 1559) in florida, and the bok tower carillon.

[@eirikhetland3272]

It must have been incredibly loud inside the voicing shop during the voicing.

[@thomaswalters4365]

2-foot Cs on the highest pressures used sound like Jethro Tull. 😊

[@cnagorka]

Ian Anderson would be proud!

[@gregoryspring1303]

Thanks Duddy for all you have done on this instrument!

[@richardmaryman3494]

of course, judging the sound of organ pipes over the internet leaves much to be desired seems like like the double languid pipes do not have as much overtones however the intensity of sound of the double-languid pipes is noticeably more for a given wind pressure (about 4.5 incheinches w.c.)

[@kevinking8303]

Very interesting video. Thank you.

[@therealchayd]

I can imagine my neighbours going "what on earth is he doing playing that bloody recorder this time of night?" (Not that I own a recorder, but hey)

[@RobWCurrier]

that was totally fascinating…thx

[@jaspersikkenga9962]

Super nice video! I watched the entire video. You should do it more often!

[@cnagorka]

I should watch the entire video more often?😆

[@jaspersikkenga9962]

@@cnagorka haha sorry! I meant maybe you could make a pipe voicing video like this more often😂

[@kuiperroerdink1670]

very fascinating

[@bpark10001]

Listening to the 6 pipes on 4" (I assume that is the design pressure for the double-languid pipes), hearing through your mike, I say for the 2' & 1' C's, the double languid pipes are "brighter" as you state. But for the 6"C's, it's the opposite, the single languid pipe is brighter. When you say the 2nd languid is "open in the back", there is a gap between the languid & the back of the pipe (not soldered to the back?) so a piece of paper inserted from the front between the languids can curl up into the pipe in the back?

[@cnagorka]

Yes that's exactly right.

[@DrpanProductions]

23:04 no way.. there is definitely a faint pitch there right around C# is what I heard of each octave 😂 Interesting how much the double languid gives a much sharper bite to those pipes. The attack when the chest valve opens is crisper in my opinion. Why isn't a double languid put in every pipe? Is it a newer technique?

[@cnagorka]

The patent date in Britain was 1908. They were never widely adopted as the organ world felt the difference in tone wasn't worth the extra labor involved.

[@agogobell28]

Out of curiosity, would a double languid have similar effects to double mouths on the opposite sides of the pipe (as in a Doppelflöte), or is there a difference in the way the air is excited?

[@cnagorka]

You know that's a really good question. You would think it would be like having one super wide mouth...and yet it doesn't seem to have that effect. I'm going to have to think about that one.

[@roberthoffhines5419]

nice shirt!

[@cnagorka]

One of my faves!

[@HazumuOsaragi-k9u]

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