Thanks, thorough demonstration. Appreciate that you edited this to be a clear and detailed help.
@kenshores99004 жыл бұрын
Very good repair. It shows that if you are a DIYer that you could do the repairs to a boat yourself. Thanks.
@crohkorthreetoes38218 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this video up. Good to see how the pro's do it.
@nealtrombley395511 жыл бұрын
nice job...there are many ways to repair a void, this was simply the correct way. there are others that just use marine tex or bondo type products...I am in the boating industry and sell products like Hutchins sanders and Kardol Resin/glass...I also own a 86 sunfish and this is I would do my repairs...well done. Neal SW FL...
@2ndgenlife3 жыл бұрын
I've got a dinghy that is solid but seeming but it fell off my truck. And I hope it's still salvageable
@AndrewLale5 жыл бұрын
'Go ahead and use it, you're just going to screw it up again'. I love these guys.
@Whalermansteve847 жыл бұрын
Metan marine does awesome work. They turn old whalers into brand new works of art and also make their own whalers. 👍
@ryanwhitaker20884 жыл бұрын
Question- I have a similar sized hole in the exact same spot, but it goes all the way through. How should I go about that without taking the entire boat apart?
@43Theory12 жыл бұрын
But... after watching you finish the job, I must admit, I'm really impressed.
@boatinglocal12 жыл бұрын
All we can say is that Scotty's job was one of the best we've seen. Could not tell the difference between the original hull and the patch. It took a lot of time and came out great.
@freespeachrulez11 жыл бұрын
Hello, I am wondering why you didn't just mix up some thick hair resin as they call "peanut butter" as a filler and then put it over the repair once ground out like you did? I thought doing it this way was for physical holes or if you have to build up the back? The reason of doing it the way I describe is because of potential of air pockets..
@GMTabone3 жыл бұрын
I've had a crack in my keel for a while and when I gun the boat I have a small leak and end up with about a Half litre of sea water...with summer just around the corner I will do this while I am repairing my Trailer, at present my boat is on set of stands I knocked up in steel 50 x 50 mm tubing, so I will do that before I put it on the trailer. Hey can you guys show a Transom change for us all.? Love your Video ( from down under).
@FIGGY652 жыл бұрын
If you YT Ship Shape TV they have a whole series with Metan rebuilding a mid 1980s Montauk. I believe the transom work is episode 5,6, or 7. It’s maybe no older than three years ago. There are many good transom rehabs on YT, just look for a reputable channel…..My first non Metan stop would be “Boatworks Today.” Good luck to you.
@josedasilva737211 жыл бұрын
A very well done job Scotty!
@NutmegThumper7 жыл бұрын
Great video on Sunfish hull repair. Just what I needed. Finished product looked amazing. Am also looking for info on how to find hull leaks on a Sunfish.
this repair is not correct, you are supposed to add the smaller layer first, then the bigger pieces. the layers need to bond to the hull separately over lapping each other. if you put the bigger piece on first it is only one layer bonding to the hull all other repair plies are on top of the large piece.
@gomigman59366 жыл бұрын
Don Ching Good call by you. I've watched this video twice now and never noticed that booboo. Makes total sense since it's basically a dip and the deepest part is the smallest and gets gradually bigger as you come up to the widened surface.
@mickhawkes1255 жыл бұрын
yeah, thought that too, makes no sense to do it the other way
@metanmarine5 жыл бұрын
Your are wrong....Sorry but simply very very wrong...
@metanmarine5 жыл бұрын
Largest piece of fiberglass is first... ABC's of fiberglass repair...
@bruceevennett69725 жыл бұрын
And the black marker he used is alcohol base type like acetone for cleaning resin out. See it mixing trough the resin as he applies it. Probably fall of in a week
@vindivergilio34826 жыл бұрын
I keep reading comments about the cost. BOAT = Bust Out Another Thousand. Especially at a marine shop. I'm redoing a early 60s MFG from the hull up, and so far, after doing a complete transom replacement, new floors, some body work (a few small rot-thru areas) and paint, have spent less than $500. Why? How? Doing the work myself. No offense, but boat repair shops are like auto body shops...rip-offs.
@jsdhesmith20115 жыл бұрын
Vin DiVergilio Yeah that’s what I’ve been thinking all along. About to take on a Mastercraft ski boat project and complete all the work myself. I’m very handy and think I am quite capable. For me it’s gonna be fun and I’ll save money plus have a lot of pride after I’m done. Can’t wait to get started. Any tips?
@guyfly474 жыл бұрын
Josh Smitty Do half the job first. Then you will realize how much time and labor is involved. Might even decide that a pro can do the rest faster if not cheaper while you earn money doing what you do best whatever that is.
@grumpy_ken4 жыл бұрын
not very intellectually honest to call professional work a ripoff because it costs less then doing it yourself
@eoghanjquigley3 жыл бұрын
Nice work Scotty
@johnroberts46473 жыл бұрын
Good video thanks for the refresher course!! Looked great when finished job well done ✅
@ArT2Oo07 жыл бұрын
thanks for showing us how its done
@John-ev3rm3 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming if the finished surface appearance didn't matter it would be just well to bulk it up for strength
@danimal4202danimal9 жыл бұрын
What do you use to darken up the gel coat? Need help color matching to a fiberglass sink.
@keepitdown079 жыл бұрын
there are pigments that are made for gel coat try 3M or west system or another company. hope this helps
@Z-Ack4 жыл бұрын
Ive always wondered why so much damn work goes into upkeep and repairs on most pleasure boats while the working boats, house boats and big rigging boats rarely need repairs like these or any besides normal upkeep like with a car.. people say oh the repair will fall off because he used spit instead of snot or whatever but i own a fiberglass 21’ bass boat from 1960 and with absolutely no knowkedge i sanded broken areas where some went through the hull from rock sex.. but after sanding i used both alcohol and acetone, filled the hole with straight bondo with some bonding agent painted around the inside of the hole and dabbed fiberglass cloth overtop (bondo fiberglass resin). Then painted a gel coat over top after sanding and those holes are gone, cant tell after 5 years now of hard boating, even through ice.. no damages nothing from the work i did.. also the motor is way too big for the boat and saw some crackkng on the transom.. everywhere period all say to cut out the fiberglass and dig out all the wood, replace, put in cpes on old and new wood, and then fiberglass rework it all shape and gel.. i took two pieces of flat 1/4” aluminum plate and drilled out both stringers, inserted a 1/2” aluminum rod down the stringers about 3’and filled with fiberglass resin (bondo) and tig welded it all together, sanded aliminum then put the gelcoat on .. 250hp merc on a 21’ low profile bass boat that ive jumped wakes hard at 70mph top speed.. and motor still on it.. got a dorsal fin and no porpoising,
@chrismckenna83794 жыл бұрын
Is the thin resin based skim coat just regular automotive bondo?
@alijabos3 жыл бұрын
3m fairing compound
@chrismckenna83793 жыл бұрын
@@alijabos Thank you.
@geowhjr8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, I will follow these steps to make my repair. Directions and printed material are too complicated to follow and keep straight without experience and knowing which products to use.
@fortnite2d20310 жыл бұрын
is it the same procedure for a larger hole ? i have been using the wrong trailer on my whaler and now have two holes due to the wheels..
@BluntEdgeChisel10 жыл бұрын
Holy crud man, i dont think that trailors big enough for a sunfish, be careful that it doesnt buckle under that 50 something pounds!
@grumpy_ken4 жыл бұрын
the hull actually starts out at 120 lbs but after a few decades of soaking up water they often weigh over 150 lbs
@jonathancaldwell64687 жыл бұрын
Yea I have been working on my boat for 4 days now but I did put in a new floor lol
@danschenck94424 жыл бұрын
can you prime over srea and paint ,then clear over lightly scuffed gel coat..i.e make a blend of color. and clear entire area with a true poly urathane clear..I do autobody for living..
@elmeradams87814 жыл бұрын
Gelcoat is different then painting. Almost backwards. You can paint the entire area though, then it's just like autobody work.
@xXCrimsonStormXx12 жыл бұрын
hello, i have an old fiber glass row boat, it's just over 10ft, and has a whole load of holes drilled into the hull. i have patched two from the outside of the hull of them by putting 2-3 layers of fiber glass sheeting over the hole then slopping tons of epoxy/hardener mix over it. then i flipped the boat and did the same on the other side now i have watched all of these sorts of videos on KZbin and think that i haven't done some really important strengthening thing... any tips?
@SCROGY12 жыл бұрын
How much would a 14 fiberglass runabout cost to have completely restored? I mean floors. transom, full paint and gelcoat, pLus windshield buffing. I realise you probably need to see the boat but I am trying to get a price range from the minimum for a boat in good shape to a boat that needs major work in all these areas. I just want a price range.
@MikeTell Жыл бұрын
What filler did you use
@NoHiDefView9 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Excellent work gentlemen.
@vincentdolente70533 жыл бұрын
2:00 so instead of being able to pluck it off with a finger it should be stronger?
@turner59312 жыл бұрын
Scotty why not use white gelcoat with microfill as a skimmer coat or even just plain white gelcoat, I dont know why you use bondo seems like a waste of time .???
@Levnyan2 жыл бұрын
Why does it look like he put the outside layer on first and worked from biggest to smallest when this was essentially a step repair? He should have put the smallest piece down first and worked his way out, right? I'm very confused right now.
@harleyjune12332 жыл бұрын
peel ply - how is this removed?
@walkertongdee4 жыл бұрын
Fixing setch a problem?
@deafwoman09 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your tips mate I appreciate it
@revjerrys7 жыл бұрын
Excellent viewing for a newby.
@Speedaholics4 жыл бұрын
What is the silver material that he uses to cut the layers?
@subron6er4 жыл бұрын
Can bondo be used over epoxy resin ?
@mrkrharris8 жыл бұрын
Why didnt he add the patch pieces from small to large to have the last one cover the entire patch?
@reallyhappenings55977 жыл бұрын
mrkrharris because the large top layer would then easily sand off
@metanmarine5 жыл бұрын
Largest piece of fiberglass goes on first
@caveracing56ovalrag438 жыл бұрын
Great step by step, EXCEPT... I don't think it would've taken more than an hour for that particular repair. If it were a big boat, and required a lot of handling to flip the boat over etc., but reality is it couldn't have taken more than 30-45 minutes of actual labor, hardening/drying etc. Maybe another hour, but that's not manual labor. MY BIGGEST concern in that repair was that he didn't wet the repair itself. You should ALWAYS apply the resin to the repair before laying the glass, or you can bet there are voids under the first sheet. There just wasn't enough resin on the glass itself to adhere to that repair. Even if there was, ALWAYS wet the repair down first for proper bonding. It may be the most important step after grinding/cleaning the repair area (which was a good job). Overall, the video showed most of the important steps, it's really just the wetting of the repair before applying that first piece of FIBERGLASS that had me yelling at the screen LMAO! I'm looking for some video tricks on how to properly repair the STRAKES on a PWC after about ripping it completely off. Problem is, it's not accessible from the inside, as the hole is under the motor mount, which is epoxied on VERY THICK. I'm thinking this needs to be removed, which will quadruple the time to repair, and be a huge job due to re-aligning the motor mount plate properly, as well as sealing it down. Was hoping to find a "trick of the trade" somewhere, to see if something could be a solid repair from the outside of the hole, with only the hole size being the access to the inside of hull otself... hard to explain...
@Billynoggs3 жыл бұрын
For fiberglass to harden 100% you're looking at least an hour in of itself. to say it only take it only takes a half hour to 45 mins for the repair tells me you don't have the slightest clue of what you are talking about. Gel coat needs at least and hour, 2 for better results before you start to sand it. By textbook definition gel coat isn't 100% cured until 24 hours after application regardless of climate. Please learn something from this or continue to spread your bullshit rhetoric because you're just wrong plain and simple.
@Jynxxxxxxx2 жыл бұрын
So once done sanding it down are you then applying the resin to the old fiberglass then putting down the new fiber glass over the older surface then apply the resin again?
@metanmarine2 ай бұрын
You're hired come down and show us how fast you are
@_noname6177 жыл бұрын
fiberglass remains stronger when pulled from the mat vs. cut
@metanmarine5 жыл бұрын
Putting the piece in your hand and crunching it up gives the same affect..
@sailingyoumeandjosapea67702 жыл бұрын
Very good video
@emoneyblue11 жыл бұрын
Nice video thanks for sharing
@Kaegis4 жыл бұрын
I always thought the resin was the gel coat? Can't you just layer more resin then paint?
@dawareiarash9 жыл бұрын
500box for 50gr of resin and 20 gram of the matt. If you used the cobolt u could fixit in 1 hour. U spend less than 17 dolor and sale it for 500.
@1966johnnywayne3 жыл бұрын
Scotty's thinking "Four, five hundred", damn I just got $60 for that time, not to mention all of the other work that I did during the dry time. Time to start hustling on the side.
@anim8ted9239 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks for posting.
@DrDankenstein420zx11 жыл бұрын
Really nice enjoyable video. Thanks for posting.
@walterwrightmarine12 жыл бұрын
Ok, so why is one guy wearing a respirator....are the fumes localized that well...
@csc1d11 жыл бұрын
only 400 $ for the repairs, now the boat can be sold for 300 $!
@mrmidnight326 жыл бұрын
Abby Normy welcome to boating and marine Mark up
@kenshores99004 жыл бұрын
If you let it be sold for that price. The value of the boat has been increased. There is a large community of sailors that enjoy sailing and racing sunfish.
@Positive_Vibes2473 жыл бұрын
Too bad they ain’t paying him more then 20 an hour to do it lol poor scott
@TERRORIZERRRR10 жыл бұрын
Never done this before but I want to try it
@tttmiami10 жыл бұрын
best guess was NOT BONDO but a product called Marine TEX and is avail at any boating supply store or just search on amazon you will find it a little goes a long way and is a putty / hardener epoxy to add rigid surface to the glass before gelcoat
@camelsellam90616 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good work .
@thomasbriggssr231410 жыл бұрын
There is a product called Kitty Hair that you can use to fill air voids. Make the job a little easier. Boat owners can do these repairs themselves with professional results.
@elmeradams87814 жыл бұрын
Gelcoat won't stick to that. At lest in theory, maybe in practice you could get away with it though.
@RaneBane5 жыл бұрын
What if the hole is all the way through? Can be fixed?
@jeanbob695 жыл бұрын
Chucky Bananaz yes its doable but the repair will probably be to big to hide properly...i work for abitibi&co if you have any question i can help you out
@MrFrankrodrigues10 жыл бұрын
Geralmente quanto fica o custo a cobrar por um trabalho como este?
@elimonjal9 жыл бұрын
***** lo dijo que como $400 dlls
@MrFrankrodrigues9 жыл бұрын
Obrigado!
@wihayaqacik8 жыл бұрын
thank you, great job on the footage.
@pantolinho993 жыл бұрын
Big piece first? Why not small?
@turner59312 жыл бұрын
@8:30 that sure looks like an automotive type bondo to me, even if it is a polyester bondo Im just saying why not use a vinylester or polyester white Gelcoat of the same colour match as a skim coat .? not trying to knock anyone just asking .
@vk5jajay1475 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Thanks Scotty 👍
@43Theory12 жыл бұрын
Hey Scotty, You should tell the spectators to throw on a respirator.
@theguitarmanonutube11 жыл бұрын
So what should I do about spidercracks all over the rails of my fiberglass boat?
@lynjames46104 жыл бұрын
Those small cracks are probably just cracks in your gel coat. Clean with acetone, let dry, then mix with new gel coat mix kit, with included color to match color of old gel coat. Fill cracks, then sand smooth and paint and buff out.
@MrPaulcoster948 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys
@hambone44956 жыл бұрын
feels like I have fiberglass in my eyes just from watching.
@rickworthington306211 жыл бұрын
$100 an hour is nothing to be astounded about. To put it in perspective, your local Chevy or ford dealership likely charges $68-75 for a parts changer to swap out parts. $100 an hour is reasonable for custom repairs.
@williamdeziel48175 жыл бұрын
Plus if your not happy with the price find someone else or do it yourself you dont know what is the daily cost to run a shop like that. The guy has to pay his bills and make profit thats just how it works
@ianbest60778 жыл бұрын
He mixed up so much resin for "sech" a small repair.
@liloiul6 жыл бұрын
He's probably going to fix some more, he didn't work for 4 hours on the boat as they say, he worked those four hours in 3-4 boats at a time. You need to let the resin to cure, also the paint need to cure between the layers of paint. So they work on a fe boats at a time ;)
@acehguy4 жыл бұрын
Needs to use a bigger brush.lol
@growthandunderstanding8 жыл бұрын
$500 is a lot. The quality of work was great, but how do you justify $500?
@christianeidsmoe47727 жыл бұрын
$100 for materials, $100 an hour.
@pressplay17036 жыл бұрын
junk can it's called a professional job, same difference if you take your car for repair at the dealer over backstreet garage or diy.
@mrmidnight326 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the marine industry. Largest mark up in the world.
@permaculturedandfree24486 жыл бұрын
With a 5 year warranty on work
@acehguy4 жыл бұрын
That repair would be £60 here in the UK as I'm a mobile fibreglass and gelcoat repaier
@chrisseats12 жыл бұрын
Top Notch Work!
@marleycline93936 жыл бұрын
Omg! Ever heard of Cabosil??
@LowCostCncRetrofits8 жыл бұрын
Yeap these are the steps a fiberglass guy taught me years ago when I left school nothing to hard about it just technique as always Skim coat is just a fine car bog or talc and qcell mixed with polyester resin
@walkertongdee11 жыл бұрын
I charge 15 dollars here in Thailand for such ann easy repair.
@jerrymcintire79028 жыл бұрын
How much to transport the boat to Thailand and back?
@tonyd63068 жыл бұрын
more than the boat is worth lol
@KingKong-zq6so6 жыл бұрын
Walkertongdee man I’ll fly you over here and pay you to work in my shop! I’ll be able to do a whole boat for a few hundred bucks lol
@dirtychina59646 жыл бұрын
Over there they would just pack the crack with some sticky rice then paint it. Im sure that would be better than the azz backwards repair they just did.
@sailormanharry2955 жыл бұрын
having been a fiberglass repair guy for 40 yrs you certainly went overboard with the amount of resin you mixed up.
@lilbuckharris4 жыл бұрын
about how much would you charge for that same job he did?
@underkrooke8317 жыл бұрын
i'll do that repair within 1 to 2 hours in 110 degree weather, talking about it takes 4 hours and with this heat of 80 degrees please
@shayestrx250r12 жыл бұрын
Great upload!
@MrLaCubanisima12 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too!
@boashna4 жыл бұрын
bravo
@tomf45473 жыл бұрын
They never show a repair upside down🙄. I don't know anyone that had their cabin cruiser flipped upside down when It was lifted out of the water. I'm predicting resin dripping out of my repair tomorrow
@ArT2Oo07 жыл бұрын
100 dollars an hour yeah these guys are out of their minds
@rochellevotaw67134 жыл бұрын
Any professional laborer charges that, at least in Cali. A guy coming out to clean a drain out would charge at least that. Contractors have to charge that to make a profit. If you are a regular employee, even if you calculated your "total compensation" out at an hourly rate, it wouldn't being to cover your employer's costs when you factor in taxes, rent, operating costs, etc.
@jllj65032 жыл бұрын
ywa pwut wuit owba da fwibagwass ya know whadda mean?
@emoneyblue12 жыл бұрын
Great Job! Thanks for sharing with us. Such great information... The best I've found all day. :P
@swedishkev4 жыл бұрын
funny how they did not show the final cutting and waxing.
@markeetea12 жыл бұрын
he makes it look so easy @__@
@DeltaForce20328 жыл бұрын
scotie dosent now that fiona and me do it in my van every sunday..she tells him shes at church but he dosent that shes on her knees every sunday.. scotie dosent now great job scotie :)
@boognish-k6r2 жыл бұрын
I love the moment the guy realizes he's getting way under paid lol...10:20
@FlammableMe6 жыл бұрын
The fiberglass mats must be in opposite directions. the small first and then the mid big and finally the big one. and do not use that much mix it will make the repair poor
@Twistedstar03204 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same, that was way too much resin. They should have added bleeding material and vaccumed that
@yournemesis68169 жыл бұрын
Learn how to do it and keep your $ out of these clowns pockets
@hillclimber44066 жыл бұрын
dats the price up there in bwoston.
@xenomorph72995 жыл бұрын
Lots of work geez
@davidflash6035 жыл бұрын
Looking for a guy to do this in Tampa Hudson fl area.
@TheMamableau10 жыл бұрын
Your car dealer gets that much or more an hour. 400 for four hours, that means including materials they probably charge 80 or so an hour. That job was very simple and could have been done in 2hrs, the rip off is you get charged for cure time when they are working on other things. Thats business. Boat stands for BUST OUT ANOTHER THOUSAND you all know what you were getting into.
@mariusfauru5 жыл бұрын
4 hours for 4 or 500 bucks? Scotty is quite greedy 😂😂😂 i fixed mine in 2 hours for 50 😎😁👍🍺
@Seanny10395 жыл бұрын
Marius Daniel Fauru how ? I need to fix mine, I don’t care how it looks in the in it’s a cheap boat so a quick fix works for me
@silkyslim20544 жыл бұрын
What did you do.
@mariusfauru4 жыл бұрын
@@Seanny1039 just buy fiberglass resin and fiberglass sheets, check on YT some videos and you will make it 👍😎👊🍺 make a video about it, i will, when i regel coat what i fixed , if advice needed, ask
@cstrikehero12 жыл бұрын
Must have missed that the first time. He says skim coat but yeah.. looks like bondo to me too. Idk what the difference is. I dont do body work so..
@captainswjr13 жыл бұрын
Nice job. Much nicer job than that boat merited. If the repair costs more than the boat did, something's off. The prep is the key to a good repair and they got it exactly right here. They went overboard with the whole trimming of the fiberglass etc. The could have used four ovals a bit bigger than the repair and just sanded off the excess. The grinder would have taken off the excess in a fraction of the time it took him to mess around with it. And you wouldn't have sharpie ink in your repair.
@walkertongdee11 жыл бұрын
I take about an hour divided into several steps.
@Billynoggs3 жыл бұрын
SO in other words your work looks like shit because you over catalyze your glass and gel and rush it out the door. thanks for sharing
@Seif503413 жыл бұрын
great video. Thanks for the upload!
@hockeymainiak99996 жыл бұрын
Shit When I was a welder, for me to supply everything from consumables to welding rig my boss would charge 80$ an hour. 100$ an hour for fibreglass repair seems pretty steep, but if I was loaded I would want my investment fixed perfectly and then the 100$ wouldn’t seem like much.
@1marcelfilms11 жыл бұрын
would love to get one of those boats real cheap, then repair it