How Will BATMAN be Adapted in James Gunn's DCU?

[@jason15212]

Nightwing is very important I’d argue just as important a casting as Batman

[@kazukiifn7417]

Agreed

[@jaebrowne6780]

I agree they definitely set up Joseph Gordon Levits to be nightwing in the dark knight series but they only hinted at it at the end of the dark knight series

[@mercontheeagle]

Hopefully he is more like Batman from BTAS, more seasoned and calculated. If he has a similar personality and visual style like BTAS that would be peak

[@jaylenjayden9305]

I have a feeling that’s going to be battinson Dcu batman may be more closer to the Arkham games

[@mercontheeagle]

@@jaylenjayden9305 yeh I guess you are right, I don’t mind either way. I really love Battinson and so if that’s the continuation for him then that’s cool, but yeh if DCU Batman is like Arkham games then that would make more sense.

[@costa2794]

​@@jaylenjayden9305i actually feel like this new batman its gonna to be more...fantasy, like he in the cartoons for the gadgets he use, or even for the villain, basically a more cartoon/comic batman, but damn i hope they do similiar fights like in the arkham games, those fights were peak

[@mercontheeagle]

@@costa2794 yeh it was almost more theatrical in the games when it came to fight scenes

[@MarzOnline92]

I wonder if Bruce Timm & Paul Dini are on the DCU creative staff. 🤔 and if not, it wouldn't hurt to have them.

[@BlueDaisy33]

One thing I really want is for Damian to get close to Dick and Alfred first (especially since the comics like to highlight Damian’s relationship with them) and it’s Bruce seeing that happening which makes Bruce become less suspicious of Damian (because he would be). I love the idea of it being focused on character and not have a focus on antagonists especially since it would also give more time for us to see the Batfamily. Maybe a villain like Professor Pyg would be good since I believe he was one of the villains whose victims first showed Damian’s growth but I could be remembering wrong. Would love a part 2 especially in regards to which extended members you think will show up and how they would be incorporated, especially if you think Tim Drake would be in it since a Batman year 10 could work with him as Robin at the start of the movie

[@samuelwatts7197]

-Batman started at 25 -Adopted (12 year old)Dick at 27 -Batman partners with Jason at 33 -Batman Partners with Tim Drake at 35 -Batman finds out about Damien at 37

[@kazukiifn7417]

Fair enough

[@tonyantonellis9983]

how old was Bruce when Kate Kane came into his his life as Batwoman?

[@samuelwatts7197]

@@tonyantonellis9983 probably after the death of Jason Todd, Bruce takes a little break and then other vigilantes patrol Gotham.

[@tonyantonellis9983]

@@samuelwatts7197 but I don't if Kate came along before or after learning that Red Hood is Jason Todd. Do you?

[@nicholasflame_4796]

-Bruce started being Batman at 24 -Adopted (12 year old) Dick, at 26 -Dick(17) went off with the Titans to craft himself. Batman was 31. -Batman partners with Jason at 31 -When Batman is 32, Dick becomes Nightwing at 18(after meeting Superman who is 27). -Batman partners with Tim Drake at 33 -Batman finds out about Damian at 36 or 37 I think this makes for a better age gap between Batman and everyone else, with Dick also being further apart from Superman as well. I imagine that Dick became Nightwing when Superman was 27. I think these are all pretty in place.

[@jlpgamin]

I'd put Bruce in the dcu at 23 in the beginning and 33 to 35 by the time Damian is around considering that if Bruce is a couple years older than Clark than that would place him at around that age if Clark is supposed to be around 32 by the time Legacy comes out

[@MrJJDIZZLE23]

Agreed

[@hc1883]

ages of actors who first appeared as and portrayed the batman character on the big screen keaton - 37 years old kilmer - 34 years old clooney - 36 years old bale - 31 years old affleck - 43 years old so yeah i'd honestly predict gunn will pick an actor in their early to mid 30s at the oldest since that's the age range most of the actors who played batman were besides affleck and even he was chosen because he fit the age and career profile of what snyder wanted which was a seasoned and older batman

[@tonyantonellis9983]

With Battinson being a loner. DCU's Batman deserves the whole Batfamily.

[@BlueCheeseLucci]

Whose the whole batfamily too cause that's alot of characters way more than just the 4 Robin's

[@tonyantonellis9983]

@@BlueCheeseLucci 4 robins, 3 batgirls, batwoman (Kate Kane), Batwing (Dave and Luke), Bluebird, Signal, Ace the Bathound and much more.

[@timothywayne5248]

@@tonyantonellis9983that’s wayyy tm we need to crawl first. Consider the small minded non- Dc stans…they won’t understand

[@tonyantonellis9983]

@@timothywayne5248 James Gunn said he will begin introducing the Batfamily in his DCU starting with Bruce and Damian Wayne.

[@davidnettles4734]

I hope the progression of Batman’s story is told in the background of the projects leading up to it. Like say in Superman: Legacy Hawkgirl says something like “Did you hear Robin flew the nest? He’s going by Nightwing now”.

[@tommyfishhouse8050]

Or they could have done what Marvel did and done a slow deliberate buildup with each movie a well told origin story leading into a teamup film logically instead of skipping over every heroes defining moment. But DC apparently doesn't want a cinematic universe that doesn't die on the vine. If the movies are good. People wont care if it's another origin story where Bruce sees his parents die, or Superman finds out he's an alien in smallville.

[@davidnettles4734]

@@tommyfishhouse8050 I wouldn’t mind a solid lead in, but we definitely don’t need more origin stories. I’m with them on that

[@tommyfishhouse8050]

@@davidnettles4734 Would have enjoyed endgame as much if we had only known Tony Stark after his accident and we never got to see him change and develop as a character? Probably not. All I want is for Superman and Batman to have what the MCU had.

[@davidnettles4734]

@@tommyfishhouse8050 I get that, and I agree we need a good lead up instead of jumping right in. But the difference is we haven’t seen Tony’s origin 15 different times over the last few decades. We’ve seen Bruce and Clark’s origins enough

[@kaleirrion]

Another great video! I really appreciate these deep dives and speculation on what the story could be about. I think you’re going to turn out to be right about many of these points. As for Bruce’s arc in the story, I do agree that he’ll start at a more distant place and then maybe learn that he doesn’t have to treat Damian like a little soldier and instead can show him tenderness and love. I feel like in this kind of story, Bruce will need a positive arc in order for it to feel satisfying. In the comics, Bruce remains distant sometimes because the story is so ongoing that it needs to stretch out for years. But in a movie, you need to show change in a 2-3 hour period, so we’ll see Bruce come around. I also really liked what you said about how there won’t necessarily be a big bad as an antagonist even though there will be enemies and villains to fight. In the story structure of a romance, for example, the romantic couple is set up as protagonist/antagonist to each other. Each wants to continue with their own lives and own misbeliefs about why they shouldn’t be in love with anyone, but then their future partner shows up and proves to be irresistible, and foils their plans. I think TBATB will be structured similarly, with Bruce/Damian set up as the protagonist/antagonist pair. Maybe the struggle is about both having misbeliefs about what family is supposed to be, and both changing the other as a result. I see Dick Grayson as being a really important secondary character in that sort of scenario, since he will have grown up with Bruce and then broken away to be on his own. He will be able to give both Bruce and Damian advice and insight on each other.

[@saplayaj7390]

11 yr old Bruce: Has his parents killed. 16 yr old Bruce: Leaving Gotham to pursue training with the league assasins. (Training side by side with Talia creating a bond and relationship) 21 yr old Bruce: Leaves back to Gotham unknowingly about Talias pregnancy 34 yr old Bruce: investigates crimes pertaining the league assassins only to find Talia and use Damian as a scapegoat knowing he can hold off batman long enough for her to escape. Leaving Bruce to start unraveling the truths behind this young assassin.

[@elliotleftly9882]

Since Superman is going to be the same age as David Corenswet, I would expect the same for Batman. Essentially it's going to be like the DCAU in which Superman is in his early years like Superman The Animated Series and Batman is more experienced with an established Bat-Family like in The New Batman Adventures/Batman The Animated Series Season 4, but he's not a veteran like Ben Affleck's Batman. Also, David Mazouz's pronunciation of Ra's Al Ghul is just as iconic as Ben Mackenzie's pronunciation of GCPD 😂.

[@pianist150]

I just want as big a batfamily as I can get. Dick, Babs, Jason, Tim, Cass, Steph and Damian. Gimme all of them

[@nysimcharles33]

1. Jensen Ackles Or Jake Gyllenhall as Batman 2. As Far as BatFamily if Nightwing and Damian is there, Batgirl is there as well and I think it’ll be Cassandra Cain. Her and Damian growing up together in the league and Batman and Nightwing changing them. Which means we also get Lady Shiva 3. YOU SHOULD SO THIS FOR ALL THE 5 films and 5 shows announced. I’m excited for Supergirl WOT after ready her comic would love to hear your thoughts on that

[@BaithNa]

They're also going to want to have Tim and eventually Jason too. Who knows, we might even see Batwing and Signal down the line too.

[@nysimcharles33]

@@BaithNa imo I don’t think we’ll have Jason or Tim. Only Nightwing, Cassandra, Damian and Barbra as Oracle. I feel like once you start adding too many BatFamily members as they did in the DCAU with Batman Bad Blood It Becomes Over crowded in Gotham and as a team

[@coltongates7397]

@@nysimcharles33it really wasn’t overcrowded though. Gotham is a big ass, corrupt ass city. Having multiple vigilantes running around isn’t unusual, like New York in Marvel comics. Having Jason involved kind of makes Batman who he is, and giving him a Batwoman would also make for a great addition. No such thing as too crowded a Gotham, nor too crowded a Bat family, as long as each character is given long enough time to shine

[@nysimcharles33]

@@coltongates7397 I felt like in the Batman bad blood it was over crowded. Some characters took a back seat while others elevated when they didn’t make you care. And there wasn’t a purpose for them after that 1 movie. I feel like that would probably be the same thing if it happened in the dcu

[@coltongates7397]

@@nysimcharles33 I think the best way to properly adapt the Bat Family they would need a series about them running concurrently with the films. Not like a miniseries but a multi-season live action show, that adapts Batman and his family and expands it naturally over time, and introduce certain core characters after a few seasons or in the sequel films, but the main Robins and Batgirls/Batwoman must be done on film regardless and could spawn successful franchises on its own too. Hopefully the actor they cast as Batman would be okay with starring in an HBO Max show as well as the films.

[@Dee_rian]

I need comic batman fully embraced. No more realistic, grounded setting. This is the DCU, if you want yhat you already jve The Batman. (Ty matt reeves) I need him to dodge bullets in mid flight, punch out villains tripple his weight class, use his "Seismic Knuckle" attachments to smack around characters who literally trade blows with Superman. I need his cowl to have the white eyes that move with his facial expression, I need his cape to have the ability to drape over his entire body, i need him to be damn near the smartest person on earth only comparable to Lex Luthor. I need his ability to outwit opponents far more powerful than him without just pre-planning. And most importantly I need him to be a moral paragon, his no kill rule showing the number one, fundamental pillar of his character, that being his integrity.

[@BaithNa]

​@Comicbookfanboy31there is no "realistic Batman" and there's never been a Batman movie or TV show that's been realistic.

[@T3xnegs]

Fr we already have a grounded Batman and we had one too in the dark knight trilogy we need a prime comic book Batman doing some crazy shi and crazy feats 😂

[@MidgardThunder]

I would also like to add that I believe the re introduction of The Shadow into the DCU via The Justice League Dark would be great for that character and he would fit so well into that world.

[@katfricke644]

If I remember correctly some iterations have Damian as a bit of a test tube baby. Maybe they will have his infant and toddler years be accelerated so Batman can be younger or so they can fit more of the other robins into the timeline

[@cellogary]

Love the video! I think if they wanted to keep Bruce fairly young, they could have him train with the league before he comes back to Gotham and becomes Batman. If he developed a romance with Talia right before he left, it could explain Damian's age with Bruce still being a young-ish Batman.

[@BaithNa]

Still, he'd have to had raised Dick from 10ish years old to adulthood and then had 2 other Robin's since then. Bruce would have been Batman for at least 10-15 years by this point.

[@silverdragon3132]

Both very good points. This is a difficult decision for Gunn and them I am sure but I want to see how they do this

[@tcb8248]

Ras being part of the movie is crucial. Especially with his role in Jason’s resurrection (what I’d want the 2nd Batman DCU movie to be about)

[@Nurolight]

More than anything, I want a super serious Bruce. If he’s going to be placed alongside the other members of the JL, a Batman that rarely cracks a smile - and when he does, he’s the only one doing so. Afleck Wayne was fine but he was a bit too light hearted (which is fine, that was his arc) but I want that Conroy delivery.

[@EasyMoneyHitman]

Imagine Gunn cast an actual father and son duo for this movie and it miraculously works. It would be crazy to see

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

Gunn is gonna go crazy with this stuff. I love it

[@jaydencredit1797]

I think a way to have Damian be robin and still have a younger Batman would be to have Damian be artificially aged up like in the new 52. That way Bruce could be around 35 and Damian could be 12.

[@jaydencredit1797]

Also I'm really hoping for Tim to get some shine as Red Robin in his post-crisis costume.

[@Clankem]

If he starts his career early. It would be more believable that he slept with Talia. So he could sleep with Talia at like 23-24 and meet Damian at like 33-34. That way Damian can be ten like James “said he’ll be”

[@Sperg10]

They could have it where Bruce and Talia hooked up when he was still training with Ra's, so he would've been like 24 or 25 when he knocked her up. Damian is normally around 10-12 years old, so that would put Bruce somehwere around 35-37 when Damian shows up.

[@misterelom]

I'm really excited for DCU Batman since I've been waiting for a live action Batman that exists in a world of Metahumans. Yeah we got that with Batfleck but now we get that element in a fleshed out fantastical Gotham so we might get to see more of Bruce's meta villains (shape shifting Clayface, Ivy with plant powers, Venom juiced Bane, Man-Bat, etc.). And with the Bat-Family included, I'm all in. Use the Bruce Timm Bats as inspiration and/or heavy leaning on the comics and you have a potential winner.

[@EasyMoneyHitman]

I think this Batman should be pushing 40 or right around 40. Everyone wants Ackles but he’ll be 50 around the time we even get a tease for this movie.

[@T3xnegs]

I hope not I’m tired of older Batman’s I wanna see prime Batman early mid 30s with experience especially since it will start a whole new justice league

[@wizendsage757]

I could have swore I read an article interviewing Grant Morrison where he said for his stories Bruce became Batman at 19.

[@BaithNa]

That makes no sense. Bruce graduated college and then traveled the world for several years before he became Batman.

[@Oz4OzBoxing]

25 in most stories. Some probably as early as 21 but I don’t ever remember hearing 19.

[@reecewiczy7758]

I think you could have a Batman that’s around 33 if Damian is 10 that means Bruce could have met with Talia around the age of 23 and at the same time he finds out about Damian, Batman’s current Robin is Tim drake

[@simbalesliechoto8663]

Javon walton who played Ashtray in Euphoria would be perfect as Robin.

[@FriendlyBatDoom]

How I would have him in Brave and Bold is No tech outside of communication in the Cowl Scientific Intellect: Albert Wesker, William Birkin, Carla Radames and Alexia Ashford from Resident Evil Deductions: Cumberbatch/Downey Jr Sherlock Combat: Himura Kenshin from Rurouni Kenshin, Raizo from Ninja Assassin and Sunny from Into The Badlands Stealth: Ozunu ninjas from Ninja Assassin Strength/Speed: Arkham Batman This is all for when a villain shows up we take the threat seriously.

[@doc8013]

Batman is my favorite character of all-time in any medium. Gunn is one of my favorite directors of any genre. But man, it's sooooooo hard to get excited about this when we literally just got a brand new Batmam that was AWESOME. I'm really worried this is gonna step on the tail of what Reeves is doing and that would be such a shame. Tl

[@BaithNa]

Zaslav has made it clear that he doesn't want a bunch of Batmen in films at the same time so they definitely wont overlap. Reeves will either stop after the sequel or finish his trilogy before the DCU Batman launches.

[@coltongates7397]

@@BaithNahe won’t finish his trilogy before The Brave and the Bold comes out. It is likely that will come out in 2026 or 2027, he’ll be in the process of wrapping up the trilogy by then, but I’m sure we’ll get The Brave and the Bold before The Batman Pt. 3

[@kaisa8204]

Bruce could have trained with the League of Shadows at say age 23-25 and had a relationship with Talia that resulted in her getting pregnant(unbeknownst to him) and that puts him in the 33-37 age range.

[@darraghmcconn]

100% mate. Literally things I space out and think about on the daily, designs of all DCU superheroes/villains, what Thanagar origin they going rockin’ with and the pros and cons of having the DCU being a near exact replica off JLU Good to know not on my own brother. Love the content, keep It coming 🫡

[@TheBombayMasterTony]

It's cool to think about all the angles this film can take.

[@chrissingleton5877]

Nice job! good show!

[@MidgardThunder]

Hello Boba. It sounds like Gunn is following the format of the new animated movies. Which are excellent, in my opinion.

[@MarzOnline92]

Ra's and Talia are key components to Damien's story & should be involved in some strong way.

[@JOVONO]

3 People who could be a good Batman - Oliver Jackson-Cohen - Alan Ritchson - Nicholas Hoult I always liked the idea of Brett Dalton from Agents of SHIELD but that wouldn’t happen

[@codeghost7715]

I honestly think this’ll have a more similar vibe to the Gotham Knights video game honestly. Wearing its heart and comic book soul on its sleeve, while also having something similar to an Arkham series edge. You can have the bright colors are striking designs and bombastic action and still be ‘cool’ and badass. And in the same note as Gotham Knights, having the League of Shadows/ assassins as the villains are a really good idea. You see, I think we need to remember that this isn’t really a Batman movie. This is a BatFAMILY movie! We need a threat that’s large enough to challenge this entire family. And considering that the Court of Owls is likely getting saved for The Batman universe, the league of shadows raiding Gotham City is an extremely exciting premise for a theatrical Bat movie! And, yeah, we need to stop trying to figure out Batman’s age in this universe. We never asked this question with the other Batmen after all. These characters are timeless, and I think James intends to treat them as such. I understand we want Bruce to have a brotherly connection with Clark, but I’m certain that as long as the chemistry is there? They’ll be good. Tony Stark is… technically older than Steve Rogers (if the cryostasis doesn’t count) in both looks and attitude, but they still worked well together.

[@johnmosman1]

James Gunn needs to sit down with whoever they cast and just play through Arkham Asylum and Arkham City several times and then just say, “Do that.”

[@souviksikdar1864]

The story and direction will play a larger role in that.

[@PRODJAXON]

I’ve been waiting for this video for months

[@justinrodriguez7209]

Boba do you prefer the Batman-Nightwing relationship being strictly father-son? Or do you agree that it should be canon that Bruce was so young when he took Dick in that he saw him as more of a younger brother and didn’t fully realize that he wasn’t the father Dick was looking for bc Nightwing purely saw him as a father and that caused the disconnect between them? Hope I explained it well, interesting in hearing your take on this, hope you’re doing well.

[@alexandernicholl5772]

If i was doing Batman i would do it like this: Year 1 - Bruce is 23 Year 3 - Dick becomes robin Year 6 - dick leaves Year 7 - jason becomes robin Year 9 - Jason dies Year 11- Tim becomes robin Year 13 - Damien becomes robin (tim either leaves is kicked out for whatever reason) Thats a very basic outline of what i think could work

[@JaydenPena29]

This is basically perfect in my eyes.

[@jdmendonca3602]

Near perfect, but I’d have Dick stop being Robin the same Year 7 as Jason becomes Robin. And Tim becoming Robin in Year 10, so that it’s Year 12 now for Damien’s intro and Bruce is 35. Good job. 👍

[@BaithNa]

Dick leaving and becoming Nightwing at year 6 is way too early and he'd be too young to live on his own.

[@silverdragon3132]

Tbh I would prefer Talia as she originally was as opposed to the Morison retcons. Which where racially motivated to an extent. I really liked the way Arrow walked back Talia to being a flawed individual that truly wants to do good. I am not opposed to her helping Damian flee, provided they use the entire “R’as kept Damian away from her until he was eight” back story they had at some point. Otherwise it could be interesting to see Damian flee himself from the league. I would of course love to see R’as again. I am just not sure how soon because he was on tv so much in the 2010s plus the Dark Knight, but then again this would presumably be a different take on him.

[@TheDrexLord]

For the batfamily I would want dick to be nightwing (duh) Jason to still be dead and be a villian in a future movie, Barbra paralyzed but gets the chip for here spine to let her be Batgirl again (because Barbra still hasn't had time to shine as Batgirl in live action yet) Tim at college and forming the titans, and maybe have Kate Kane as batwoman but she isn't in gotham so it can go either way. As well as set up luke fox to be batwing in a future film and have catwoman mostly on there side but still a thief

[@BaithNa]

Why would Tim be forming the Titans is Dick was already part of the team?

[@kysen1225]

What i want for the DCU Batman would be the Arkham Batman video game but in live action but what we will probably get is New 52 Batman in live action

[@BSmitty4rm8Fitty]

I agree with you. The Arkham Batman is probably the best Batman we’ve ever gotten. Perfectly balanced character. We see his anger, his detective skills and his fighting skills.

[@rcbmmines4579]

Although they definitely won't go 1:1, Grant Morrison's run is the perfect source of inspiration for DCU Batman. Bruce at that point I'd say is definitely at his peak at least until the New 52 happened towards the end and compressed the timeline. Otherwise, this was a seasoned Batman at his prime, at his most prepared, yet still human unlike what some memes claim. It really embraced decades of comic book history from the Golden, Silver and Bronze Ages too. It was a perfect balance of those eras and the later ones that shaped modern Batman. Then before it was undone, Dick Grayson became Batman, Damian Wayne became Robina and Bruce embraced family and created Batman Inc. I do also hope they take from Peter Tomasi and Patrick Gleason's Batman & Robin run because that's where Bruce and Damian's relationship really go into depth. Morrison did have interactions with them in his work for sure but Dick and Damian had a lot more together then and it's in Tomasi's run where Bruce and Damian really open up on a deeper level. As for the villains, man I'd love to see Simon Hurt but Talia, Leviathan and an army of Ninja Man Bats would be great too.

[@JOVONO]

I have been on board with everything James Gunn has been doing but it sucks that he is doing Damien Wayne as the first Robin we see on screen in this new universe I think most people would have rather seen Dick Grayson or Tim Drake over Damien I think the Batman movie that everyone needed was a proper Batman and Robin (Dick Grayson) movie

[@Jeffreyderksen911]

I've been waiting for this boba let's go can't wait for more 🙏❤️

[@WilyWillyT]

I could easily see an al Ghul villain, but I could easily see Red Hood as the villain as another way for Bruce to confront his fathering abilities.

[@timothywayne5248]

I wouldn’t mind homage to the BTAS I absolutely love that adaptation and everything Bruce Timm did during that “ Animated Series” era. However, I prefer the Arkham Batman for modern day story telling- I just feel like he’s dark, grimey, calculated, highly skilled in hand to hand and wicked cool gadgets

[@Cloud-dt6xb]

Your forgetting that whoever they pick will need to be Batman for a long time, so going as young as possible is likely what Gunn wants to do. And there's plenty of ways to handle where Damian Wayne fits into that time line, like he could've had a relationship in his twenties that went south but it was long enough for Damian to exist. That's just one example off the top of my head though. Infact how Damian was born is already a super interesting story to focus just from the possiblites on how it could go.

[@anthonyperkins1668]

Here's my little fan fiction story. At 18. Bruce Wayne goes to Ra's Al Ghul and starts training. There, he meets Talia, who's also 18. Two years into his training, Bruce and Talia get together. Ra's finds out and sends Talia away. While banished , Talia finds out she's pregnant. Jump to present. Bruce Wayne is 35. And he's introduced to a 15 year old son Damian Wayne.

[@flackosoblancoo]

I hope to see ra’s and talia definitely her.

[@DarthSoto78]

I would love to have a mention of Jason being dead at some point in this movie. I really want Under the Red Hood as a live action movie at some point.

[@costa2794]

I hope that too

[@silverdragon3132]

If Damian is around Under the Redhood already happened

[@DarthSoto78]

@@silverdragon3132 Movies are based on the comics, and don't always have to go in exact order.

[@silverdragon3132]

@@DarthSoto78 We already have three adaptions of Under The Redhood, two of which are irredeemable garbage. I don’t want live action movie writers making a third irredeemable garbage adaption of it.

[@thomasscottwilliams6672]

I think early 40’s is realistic either the actor or the portrayal of, plus Pyg as one of the villains as he is really horrific and a talon, maybe the backstory to nightwing and the court of owls interwoven, giving Damian a reason to step up.

[@tommyfishhouse8050]

There is no way they're going to adapt Professor Pyg into a PG-13 Batman movie. Considering this is supposed to be the 'Fun!' Batman movie you can go see with your kids. And to do Professor Pyg justice you'd need a hard R rating where you can see the blood and body horror.

[@dmamorpm7672]

Interesting discussion. I hope the new DCU runs 10 yrs + (tired of reboots) so, for me, Batman has to be early 30s. He presumably has a large role to play in unreleased titles beyond what we’ve seen. Also child actors age really fast so if they plan on using Damien more than once something to be mindful of there. Talia is a must. Ras would be interesting, and as a character could link into Swamp Thing if they do him justice and don’t make him a throwaway one-off villain. Just hope we don’t get lots of nerfed villains as a gauntlet of sorts

[@N3wman2992]

I’d love for tbatb to have the same ‘’dark layer’’ (where the screen just looks darker than most tv) that gen-v and the boys have. I think it would fit in with the character

[@jackstutz2860]

I agree with the focus of the movie being on Bruce and Damian's relationship. I think the closest Bruce has ever gotten to truly being a parent is with Dick. He adopted Dick, trained and lived with him for years and all that. Dick is kind of the template Bruce needs to see what he does wrong as a father in order to do it better for Damian, with Dick's insight and assistance certainly. I don't point to any of the other robins because Jason wasn't around long enough to be truly a son to Bruce and Tim has parents so while Bruce is definitely a father figure for him, thats more just the mentor aspect of that role than everything else that goes into it. I think at the very least, we need to see Dick in the movie because he's the connecting tissue between Bruce and Damian, in both comics and just common sense given the history.

[@laneboyle1215]

Why couldn’t Bruce Wayne have met Talia on his world travels when he was younger and learning?

[@lord_tomey]

I would love for them to cast two Bruce Waynes, the main one for the movie, and an younger actor for flashbacks and prequel movies. Same goes for Dick Grayson, with adult Nightwing and child for Robin. Tho it would be easier and cheaper for them to tell prequel stories in animation.

[@davidcarter3976]

C'Mon gun n please have a banging script for us!!

[@BaithNa]

I may be wrong but I don't think he's writing the Brave and the Bold.

[@dessy073]

I hope to see duke thomas

[@cefy3117]

I wouldn’t mind if Batman started early 20’s, around 21-23

[@williamclarke2020]

The way the Batman looks above is the way it should look! No collar or verly thick neck like BBegins. Blends nicely with the shoulders and chest. Ears are right size and just enough of a menacing look to face. WB...just copy this please!

[@Darkseidcollaborations]

I would like to see them take on the court of owls

[@EatOne-r8k]

Really They Should Put The Arkham Show Apart Of There Chapter…Like They Should Work On Arkham Show Whats Going On Show The Background Stories,Villains,All The Robins From Dick To maybe Tim Drake Im Not Really A Fan Of Tim But He’s Good..Thannnn Batman Brave n The Bold Introduce Damian Wayne…I Think It Would Make More Sense Than Jus Getting 1 Batman Movie n He’s Already In His Prime So There’s Gone Be Missing Time

[@chrisoctober9921]

I feel like they could have Bruce just wear a black ninja outfit for his early years in Gotham. maybe he’s 23 when he starts fighting crime but he puts on the bat suit at 25 and then he meets Grayson at 26, Jason at 28, Jason dies when Bruce is 30, then Bruce could be alone until 33 he meets Tim, and at 35 is when Damien comes around. So Bruce would be Batman officially for 10 years but he’s been fighting in Gotham for 12 or 13 years.

[@anju-andrukat]

Waiting to see a Neal Adams' Batman.

[@comixof2morrow]

I'd like to see Dylan, who played Stiles in Teen Wolf, play Robin.

[@JamesSuess-pz1sd]

Maybe clayface will do an experiment that goes horribly wrong that turns him into clay and he can shape himself into anything that would be very cool kinda like a sandman vibe scenario like In the old Sam Rami Spider-Man universe 😎😎😎🖐🏻🖐🏻🙏🙏🙏🤙🏻👌👌👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@MRGooodwineTV]

Hopefully a comic/Arkham Batman that embrace ALL that comes with Batman, tired of the grounded "realistic" shit lol. When Batman himself isn't realistic... Go all out!!!!

[@firstlast9846]

Thank god somebody said it - Batman isn’t meant to be so grounded to the point there’s no fun to be had.

[@asdf-official]

Batman is the most realistic superhero and works much better grounded

[@Dee_rian]

​@@asdf-officialNo, he doesn't. He's a comic book character. You have grounded Batman restricted to his own universe with The Batman. And TB2 on the way. For the DCU he's sharing the same world as Superman and Wonder Woman now. That "realistic" "grounded" form of him no longer has a place.

[@firstlast9846]

@asdf-official - then you’ve never read a comic book.

[@BaithNa]

​@@asdf-officialthere's nothing "realistic" about Batman and we've never seen a "realistic" take on Batman. Even Reeves' Batman does things that no person would be capable of and survived things that would instantly kill any human being.

[@firstlast9846]

*I hope he has the blue cowl* and less of the “Armoured” look for the suit - and instead has the grey fabric.. the armoured Batman has never looked good imho - only time it looked good was in Batman : Damned - where he wore literal chain mail for his chest piece.

[@JamesSuess-pz1sd]

Ok villians clay face and if we don’t get clay face we get a new joker or just the regular one from the comics idk who to choose to be in the film but I do wanna see a clay face villian

[@BrandonCorley109]

I *need* to see him get omega-beamed

[@MarzOnline92]

A lot of fans, including myself, are holding out hope that Jensen Ackles gets casted for Bruce Wayne/Batman. The guys still looks young for his age and can definitely pull off both the smooth, rich, playboy as well as the serious, brooding vigilante. He is also a parent so he can bring some of that "father-figure" that's required for the role.

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

Ackles is 46. He's too old.

[@MarzOnline92]

@@dcmastermindfirst9418 Well that depends on what Jim & Pete are aiming for. Jensen Ackles is about to be 46 yet he still looks like he is in his mid 30's. Tom Holland is currently 27 years old yet he still looks like he's 18, allowing him to pull off highschool Peter Parker. As long as he looks the part, acts the part, & can physically perform well enough, it can work.

[@Chibuosor]

Oh my God I want Jack derges as Batman

[@darknessunderthewind]

Joker should make his debut in a live action Batman Under The Red Hood movie

[@BaithNa]

That absolutely has to be on Gunn's checklist of things to do.

[@walterlambert4877]

I would love to see your dream cast for this movie I think that would be a really fun and cool video

[@davidking9729]

It does work for Batman starting out at 21 years old they did that in Batman the animated series

[@BaithNa]

I dont think they ever stated his age in that series

[@BobaTalks]

He was most certainly not 21 when starting in BTAS

[@davidking9729]

I meant in the flashbacks for mask of the phantasm he was 21 or 22

[@VERESDavid]

I wish Brave and the Bold would 've been just like the cartoon from 2008 if this movie won't be grounded

[@atavious2491]

Benedict Cumberbatch as Ra's Al Ghul

[@trevorminyard8885]

I think the amount of Robins Batman has had throughout his career should be streamlined for the movies. Four is a bit absurd especially if Batman’s career only lasts 20 years from age 25-45. At the risk of angering fans I think it would be smart to get rid of Tim Drake as he seems to be the most expendable. His only real distinguishing trait is being equal to Bruce in his detective skills but that’s something that can easily be attributed to Dick. Then combine Damian and Jason where you practically get rid of Jason Todd altogether and have Damian fill his role as the slain son to be resurrected and turned into Red Hood. I think Damian works better in that role anyway because he’s already a trained killer and murderous psycho when he shows up on Bruce’s doorstep. Bruce has just recently parted ways with Dick sending him off into the world to be his own man and now all of a sudden he’s got another kid to deal with and it’s his own flesh and blood. He takes Damian in and dedicates himself fully to not just raising Damian but changing him. Reprogramming him from the Assassins way of life to a controlled restrained protector. Then just when Damian is turning a new leaf, he’s taken from Bruce by the Joker. Not only would this add even more tragedy to the death in the family, would also serve as better motivation for Raas to bring Robin back to life with the Lazarus pit as it’s his own grandson now. And when Damian makes his return as Red Hood he’s fallen back into the murderous tendencies only now it’s on his own terms and not the assassins as he’s seen Bruce’s no-kill rule is ineffective. But instead of being a murder happy psycho he’s able to use what Bruce has taught him to go after the real criminals who need killed and do it more efficiently.

[@martinlawrence2770]

I hope Batman is like The Arkham Batman and BTAS Batman

[@jordanriley8046]

i wanna see deathstroke go against batman i feel like we've never seen that in a live action batman movie. I think that could be really great an special.

[@BaithNa]

We've never seen that because they aren't enemies and dont operate in the same cities. Deathstroke is a Nightwing/Titans villain, not a Batman villain.

[@rajin2160]

Hope jasen acorns gets it

[@UrielAfemikhe-eo2hf]

Will Red hood be in the movie? Or appear in later projects cause I would really love to see Jason todd as Red hood on the big screen

[@TheReddKnight]

My question is will this Batman actually be at peak human level of strength and not just a guy with fighting skills I want him to be similar to Captain America in the MCU when he's just way to strong and fast for normal ppl but he hold his own against a Meta Human

[@espectrosdelrizoma658]

@Boba Talks, The Batman Part 2 script has leaked (not the script itself just details) on 4chan. Do a video on this please

[@BobaTalks]

I don't really know what to think about stuff like this - literally anyone could post it, make the details up with some popular fans desires and there ya have it.

[@charlesjohnriedesel7231]

I'd like to see a live action adaptation of death in the family. And under the red hood I'd think with the tie between talia and Jason Todd would We've like it being a storyline that he was dead for 2 to 3 years. Capture the brave in the bold maybe Talia gets an situation. Where she is hated by Bruce that leads to her bring Back Jason Todd. Also with the clayface theory The major comic storyline with his pretending up as Jason Todd pretending to be hush. I think bringing back the Redwood would be a great financial situation as well. Under the redhood Is one of the most selling DC animated movies of all time. Plus with the butchery of Jason Todd. I think he deserves a second chance to be played by a good actor. In titans, They butchered all of the titans Especially Jason

[@morgie39]

I want Alfred to say something like "he is just like you at that age master Bruce" when Bruce gets annoyed with Damian

[@_KRUGR_]

Man I can’t stop thinking of Jensen Ackles as Batman in this. He does serious/angry/brooding so well.

[@matthewschneider3391]

He met Talia before he was Batman when he was traveling the world BECOMING Batman. Damien was concieved in Bruce's early 20s, then he became batman. Thats my guess

[@JOVONO]

I just don’t want Batman to be too old People want Jensen Ackles but he’s way older than David Corenswet It’s I would rather have someone in there mid to late 30s at most

[@micahkitchens2480]

I just hope Jeremy Irons comes back to play Alfred 😅

[@davidcarter3976]

Sounds kind of like it's going to be like Batman and Robin. Just with the different origin story. Hopefully this script is not as bad.

[@davidalexander-dhs-baltimo2708]

Not saying Jason and Tim shouldn’t be in the DCU universe but let’s not over stuff the movie. I think fans would be ecstatic with just Barbara Gordon’s Batgirl and Dick Grayson’s Nightwing with more then just cameos in the Brave and the Bold.

[@jaebrowne6780]

Unacceptable you need to predict every fucking word boba!!!! 😂

[@twinm8]

I mean, if Bruce spent from the ages of 16-23 travelling the world training, 2 of those years spent with the league, he could unknowingly conceive Damien. Become batman by 24 train a new robin every 2 years but would rather the robins be a tad older than 11-13. Maybe Dick is already 18, and by the time he becomes robin, he already has crazy acrobatics and focuses on "keep away" rather than head-on combat. After a year and a half Dick would start patrolling alone, without permission from Batman, because he hated how violent he was. Jason is 16 by the time Bruce is 28 and when Jason dies a year in by the age of 17, Bruce refuses to take on another young partner after that and never mentally recovers. 2 years later Bruce sees promise in a young Tim who has a home made robin outfit. But cursed by Jason's death he can not allow himself to endanger another child. Tim angered by this discovers the identity of Batman and the 2 Robins. After discovering what happened to Jason he understands but it doesn't kill his drive. Impressed by Tim's detective work and after consistent persuasion Bruce takes the third robin under his wing. Sometime has passed with Dick now going by Nightwing and Bruce Tim's robin essentially go through the "under the redhood" storyline together. So by 33 Batman could have Nightwing, Redhood and Robin all while introducing Damien. Tim opting to transition to Red Robin to pave his own road and give room for Damien

[@Darius_Dawkins]

i honestly can see a situations where either he had dick and jason at the same time and that can boost their rivalry or a situation where he's only had each for like 2 years but each Robin is so different, dick wanted to be a better batman, jason wants revenge then he wants to deal out justice his way, Tim is Tim, Damian wants to kill everyone in his way lol, im excited for this

[@buccaneercat]

I hate that they’re introducing yet another “old” Batman into a universe where Superman, The Flash, Aquaman, etc. are all 10-20 years younger than him. I get that they probably wanted to jump straight to Nightwing, Red Hood, Batgirl, and MAYBE Red Robin… but it muddy’s the dynamic between Batman and his fellow Justice League members. Making Batman so mature right off the get go puts him closer towards the back end of his career while everyone else is barely starting. We don’t get to see these characters grow with one another, and learn from each other. Batman will once again just be the elder veteran everyone is supposed to look up to. It was literally just done in the DCEU. Batman needs to be mysterious and relatively new to them, they need to be slightly uncomfortable around him at first, only knowing of rumors and scary stories… time spent together would allow them to grow together, and become a stronger team.