Bodybuilder Michael Israetel Explains The Roid Rage That Made Him Quit STEROIDS!

[@TheDiaryOfACEOClips]

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[@BrockGrimes]

09:00 truth

[@michelebreen1735]

DR MIKE, brilliant discussion of taking steroids. Every person should watch this before taking any steroids. You mentioned many side effects that will harm your body many years later. Lifetime damage. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@MrDavidbiohazard]

This is the second interview I've watched you do and really enjoy your style of questioning the person, it allows the person to relax with you and get deep into the subject and allowing us to get into these people's psych. You've got a new subscriber

[@RjTheTrigun]

Mad props for the honesty. Dr Mike def earned my respect for showing the other side of gear use that most don't discuss

[@justvibing2497]

Your wrong. Most do discuss it bud. Its been cover for years. You just didn't see it

[@i_would_but_i_wont]

Except he made his social media career from steroid usage. Do you think if he looked like a natural lifter people would listen to him...? Israetel is just another Jordan Belfort, a guy who's influence was gained from dishonesty but now says 'don't do what I did to get here' all while enjoying the fruits of his dishonest behavior.

[@brianmeen2158]

@@i_would_but_i_wontthat’s the problem with steroid use.. I’d say 75% of fitness or lifting influencers on KZbin take steroids and have built their audience with their help.. without the gear very few people would be interested in what they have to say. So basically social media greatly incentivizes steroid use .. I totally get why people take steroids . I mean, do you think Arnold and the Rock regret taking steroids?!? Hell no

[@edgarv.611]

@@i_would_but_i_wontDishonest with whom? He harmed no one but himself, completely different from Jordan Belfort, this guy is a scumbag

[@ShermanWilliams-ri4fy]

Yeah I appreciate his objectivity

[@benjaminvansyoc6341]

Man, the amount of balls, confidence, and vulnerability to be that open and honest

[@Cptn.Smoker]

You’re impressed by someone telling the truth ? How sad ….

[@benjaminvansyoc6341]

@@Cptn.Smoker You act like telling the truth is always an easy thing. You can tell watching the video that he clearly isn't comfortable or wanting to share the dark violent thoughts he has had, especially because of how he prefers to be perceived. You act like everyone just comes out and shares their deep dark secrets and that's the normal

[@Mr.Eminem]

It's like cocaine addict saying.. I love cocaine... respect is cheap these days

[@williamcola2211]

​@@Cptn.Smoker W comment

[@benjaminvansyoc6341]

@@Mr.Eminem I'm specifically talking about the thoughts that he has. Not about how he likes the way steroids make him look. He is aware that his thoughts are not good, and knows they're wrong, and is ashamed of the way he feels, but can talk about it to make other people informed. That takes a certain amount of balls to put yourself out there for critism when most people would lie about it and say "No there are no side effects to be worried about"

[@sainsburmcmanus]

2 minutes in and this is already the most open and honest I’ve ever seen a bodybuilder/athlete about steroids. It’s actually disgusting how so many lie and give off the illusion they built that physique naturally. Hats off to you Mike for being so candid.

[@cuthip]

Not to defend them, but one thing to consider is that in America and many other countries, using steroids is illegal. Some steroids might be able to be prescribed by a doctor (like testosterone replacement therapy), but the level of steroid use these people need to get super big as a bodybuilder is definitely illegal. So they don’t want to admit to committing crimes on camera.

[@3_character_minimum]

​@cuthip it's not just body builders. The amount of roid use in the US is palpable for the "look at me" segments of social media and acting.

[@Bruce_Wayne35]

@@3_character_minimum Don't forget police officers. A lot of them are on the juice and it's pretty obvious.

[@3_character_minimum]

@@Bruce_Wayne35 never even thought of it... Bur yeah it could be the case. Not so much for where I live, St least the cops aren't huge.

[@narmypara100]

I like mike ,Excellent content no bullsht just all straight forward honesty and truths

[@Valkyriestrong4]

This is exactly why I will continue to watch Dr Mike’s vids!! The complete honesty of this man is unmatched

[@anthonyfong4922]

Dr Michael is probably the most well spoken, super intelligent, highly educated bodybuilder I have ever had the pleasure to listen to.

[@VickiKech]

"probably", after watching this? Be bold, like Dr. Mike, tell it like it is. You know he is.

[@rickroller420]

He does have a PhD in exercise science and is a professor at one of the most prestigious exercise science universities in the USA

[@richardlawson6787]

A phd in exercise science...thats not a doctor thats a football coach

[@austynh1]

​@@richardlawson6787 uneducated folk undervaluing education lmao

[@ItsJakeTheBrake]

@@richardlawson6787 What an idiotic thing to say.

[@SomeBodyIUsedToKnow8]

“They’re unspeakable” “Like what?” “They’re unspeakable” 😂

[@_baller]

@@SomeBodyIUsedToKnow8 yeah interviewer digging deeper when he said unspeakable, sounds like interviewer is trying to entrap him

[@aquestdaqui]

Didnt like the interviewer

[@bidet1098]

​@@_baller yea, no respect to leaving things as they are. But for the views, ig

[@TheMicahwitz]

@@SomeBodyIUsedToKnow8 he says after admitting he’s never put hands on anymore. 😆😆😆🤡

[@everythingstrength1485]

It's true. I've never seen steroids/gear communicate with anyone 😂

[@michaelmcfadden396]

I'd better be nice to Dr Mike seeing how he deals with comments. In all seriousness I loved this interview. Mike is so interesting, honest and smart. 5 stars.

[@keiferneverland5501]

He quit steroids ??.... LMFAO !!

[@a1b9c2]

We love Dr Mike and I don't want to see the man feeling like this. These drugs are not worth it.

[@billybobybobybob]

For people who don't know him, Dr Mike from Renaissance Periodization is super chill. He's talking about intrusive thoughts caused by massive testosterone increases (which he doesn't like; the problem comes from people who do like such thoughts and act on them). Also, he's one of a few growing fitness professionals who's being properly honest about steroid use, which is important, as there're a lot of celebrities clearly taking PEDs, pretending they're not, creating body standards that are literally only possible with PEDs.

[@andyhunter5869]

I like how Mike O’Hern is becoming a buff longlegs

[@rathelmmc3194]

Yep, Hollywood where women can’t be pretty or objectified anymore but men are absolutely jacked.

[@MrHondoMan]

Been a fan of Dr Mike for sometime now. He knows his stuff quite well. I've enjoyed his videos on RP due to the science and his odd humour. This was a side of him I've never seen. Candid and very open. Major respect for this intelligent young man.

[@neilgunns8391]

He won’t live to 50. You watch. He looks 55 now.

[@kirkchurchil8216]

@@neilgunns8391dude Ronnie Colman took 10 times as much gear as Mike and he’s 60 lol. You have zero clue what your talking about 😂😂😂

[@sam120878]

Dr Mike is one of the only guys on KZbin that openly talks about his experience with roids. And with great intellect.

[@rileyandersen7346]

Mark Bell talks a lot about them as well.

[@PeterKeng]

Props to Dr Mike for responding so nicely and calmly to the interviewer's "Why" "Why" "Why"

[@primemover011]

Yeah I found that quite obnoxious

[@mistervanderveer]

@@primemover011 I guess thats just his interview style and trying to understand the guest. Its obnoxious for sure but hey, the algorithm likes it.

[@wayne8418]

I was ready to snap watching it.

[@pqr590]

It felt as if he was digging at something specific there, as if he had decided in his mind there was a reason that he wanted Mike to confront. Didn't sit right with me.

[@joshuaelek]

I turned it off at the fifth Why? I don't think he was being rude, but it just comes across as lazy and "I'm better than you."

[@gfresh353]

The interviewer is wrong. Many guys want the feeling of indestructibility and enormous raw physical power.

[@dannydreadnought-xk4qx]

But not enough to kill themselves with steroids. That's the point.

[@grantog123]

Women want that in men, too. Just not all.

[@_baller]

It stems mostly from insecurity

[@davesmith826]

That 'feeling' disspitates faster than a fart in the wind when you realise steroids don't teach you how to fight.

[@kirkchurchil8216]

@@_ballerthis is such a lame cope, it’s like saying bully’s only bully cause there sad/insecure. I take fear because it’s fun to challenge your self and lift heavy crap lol!

[@AJTramberg]

Where the interviewer gets it wrong...."the average person doesn't have that feeling". No, I think just about every man would like to be muscular and powerful. The average man however is not willing to do what it would take to get there,namely the time investment, and medical risk. I can say as a man who has lived both as a rail thin individual, and later worked my body naturally into an "above average" physique, the difference in the way I was treated my other men and women was profound. Instant respect and deference by other men, and vastly increased attractiveness to women. For reference, Im 6-1, and I went from 155 pounds to 205 pounds at about 15% body fat over a 4 year period. So, big, not huge, and not super ripped. From a lifestyle point of view, physical strength is just enjoyable. It's like a mini super power. It's also an infusion of confidence, which makes you more apt to try new things, and less afraid of failure. The confidence brought more overall happiness to my life. I experienced all of this on a smaller scale than someone on steroids, but I think most men would want it if they could get it easily.

[@_baller]

@@AJTramberg the average person doesn’t do steroids, thing is the interviewer was taking more of a stance like no normal person takes them, you can just tell, he’s on team weak and frail

[@brianmeen2158]

Yep. There is not a single man out there that wouldn’t want to be stronger and more muscular than they are now. They just don’t have the dedication or discipline to attain it .. same goes for women out there - they want to be fitter and have a nice shapely body but most just can’t push themselves to work out .

[@ECLYPSER42]

100%

[@jzepp7013]

Agree with you 100% when I started working out I was 135 pounds right out of high school. I got to about 180 pounds naturally and was about 10% bodyfat. I got more respect from guys, had women just come up and grab my chest & arms at the clubs....just attracted alot of women. I was more confident and went from an introvert to an extrovert.

[@Flahtort]

@@brianmeen2158 , logical error. From one edge to another. Yes, there are people, who LOVE to be small and weak. Also people who love to be huge. Majority of people on my personal experience love to just be somewhere in between, just capable in daily life and strong enough to move a couch of whatever.

[@sibonisso]

Lesson: DO NOT TAKE STEROIDS.

[@juuskanda]

I would take if I could get a safe supply of my choice

[@brandonyoung4910]

@@juuskandatake everything a clinic can give you. All pharma grade

[@saadalikhan3031]

I mean, that is SCHOCKING

[@davesmith826]

@@juuskanda You heard about the side effects - 'increased probably of damn-near every systemic disease you can get' - and thought 'I'm up for it'? 😅😅

[@kirkchurchil8216]

And yet Mike will continue to do them along with the majority of KZbin fitness guys saying not to do them😂😂😂

[@weissbrot-rg9hd]

I loved Dr. Mike before... but now I love him even more for his balls to say all this online. He totally got my respect

[@MrMackanno]

Dr. Mike is one of the most honest AND funniest guys in the world of muscle stuff. Great sense of humour and honest at the same time.

[@amb8405]

I’ve learned more from listening to Mike than any other bodybuilder or fitness coach/trainer/expert/influencer

[@Flahtort]

Agree

[@davidtempest263]

@@amb8405 if you want to build muscle, don’t listen to influencers. Just lift weights, recover, get stronger, repeat

[@tmarkovski]

Dr Mike has always been open about his situation, and he's doing great work for the community talking openly about them. Kudos to him!

[@keiferneverland5501]

He quit steroids ??.... LMFAO !!

@@keiferneverland5501 Moron

[@gorgioarmanioso151]

Whether Mike is honest for making money or not, I give him kuddos and 1000000% respect for being honest. He deserve so much respect for his honesty academically and as human being.

[@blkmamba31]

“Whether Mike is honest for making money or not, I give him kuddos and 1000000% respect for being honest.” …….. Riiiiiiiiiiiigggggght 👌 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@blkmamba31]

You took a huge bong hit before writing that didn’t you 😂

[@rookendgame]

​@@blkmamba31you wasted a minute of your life copying that comment just to make a dimwitted sarcastic one word response lmao

[@keiferneverland5501]

He quit steroids ??.... LMFAO !!

[@SanguinaryOtter]

i mean if you stick to being honest and get into a position where you can earn money while still being honest then that simply means that you have integrity. in that regard i would say dr mike has integrity.

[@DrChrisSaffran]

Mike, that was incredibly courageous of you to allow your self to be so vulnerable during this frank conversation about your experiences with these medications. You're a mensch!

[@Danjahru]

Dawg i appreciate the fact he actually answered these questions calmy and honestly salute

[@cryptocarpenter4157]

Never liked Mike, but after this I'm a fan. Honesty takes you a long way in my view. I've used PEDs for years. I can't share all his opinions, but many I related to. This will help eople make an informed decision of the risks involved with PEDs. I believe Mike is helping way more than he's hurting. Good on you Mike.

[@barrytaylor6701]

Why would you not like him? I've watched near damn every video of his on KZbin and he's always honest about steroids. He will also always advise what is right for natural and enhanced lifters and why they are different.

[@Superdog-gr5yh]

Definitely chaotic good

[@pricklycatsss]

That’s ironic he’s one of the only fitness KZbinrs I don’t hate lol. He has a 2nd channel

[@alexandermuller8587]

@@barrytaylor6701 I think people that are on PEDs don't like to be reminded of how bad PEDs can be. And Dr. Mike is pretty criticizing about them.

[@craigmg2052]

if you don't compete and just do it for size/strength no matter how informed your decision is to get on steroids, its always gonna be a bad idea.

[@Rooster-fo7lg]

I’m really impressed in his articulation and the way he answered questions or deflected sounded like he was being extremely honest and down to earth.

[@TimeGoes-b7x]

He's always honest about it in most videos I've seen with him.

[@iktr109]

Thank you for putting yourself out there and speaking ur experiences!!❤️ Much respect to you, Mike!

[@LWSkincare]

Dr.Mike is always articulate and honest. I love that he is talking about this because more and more men AND women are wanting to do steroids.

[@thatboybear]

He’s incredibly articulate in discussing subjects most struggle to even listen to effectively. His assessment of our tendency to self-mythologize is really interesting, not new ground being broken, I’m sure, but a framing I hadn’t heretofore encountered. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed this interview - the interviewer notwithstanding. I didn’t feel that he was actually listening to his guest, just searching for the answers he expected to the questions he selected. He makes for a poor audience proxy. Also, the gear tattoo is dope. Well-played, sir; well-played indeed. 😂

[@Jake-im8eq]

Spot on comment

[@kaptan5306]

Man that was honest and raw. The most raw I've ever seen in an interview actually.

[@Akkbar21]

People are really dumb these days. This is not admirable.

[@mistervanderveer]

@@Akkbar21 That comment doesnt even make sense nor correlates to the original comment. Are you okay bro?

[@Akkbar21]

@@mistervanderveer don’t rage on me bro. Don’t fantasize about killing me

[@danfg7215]

Damn, that was a truly interesting clip of the interview. Dr. Mike has so many layers, the dude is fascinating, and scary at the same time.

[@sydwelltlhola4211]

Damn! This is why we love Dr Mike, to be this honest and open to thousands of people is insane. At times you see he's uncomfortable but he's keeping it real. I have always wanted to be big since watching Terminator 2 at the age of 5.

[@ramseywarner9478]

Mike is my favorite dude on the fitness internet. Such an intelligent, honest and vulnerable guy. And funny as hell on top of it.

[@shaner67]

Dr Mike is all about honesty and wears his heart on his sleeve. He is helping inform the viewer of the reality of steroid use and prevalence in society. Side note, this is one if not the best interview channel on KZbin. Happy to be subscribed for a long while now.. well done team❤

[@theskateboardfan]

The “get out of my way” issue is so real. I go from let’s hug to “someone will die today” in an instant.

[@jasonholtkamp8462]

For me the anger always hits me after. It’s so weird. Like the logic part of my brain that Mike described in this clip is always on the control stick for me, and without thinking I just default to conflict avoidance because I know to my core that it’s the game theory optimal move every time. And that kinda annoys me about myself… like am I smart or just a wussy?? lol

[@edwardv4546]

@@jasonholtkamp8462you’re smart. I think a lot of this is insecurity which could be an American thing. We’re taught as men to be tough. Don’t let any walk over us. So these types of actions “confront” our manhood. But it’s not smart. Smart is choosing peace when you could destroy somebody.

[@Sweet9964]

@@jasonholtkamp8462you’re smart. it shows that you’re more mature than me lol. I get mad first and ask questions second. before gear I was extremely passive and thought it would be better to be aggressive and stand up for myself. and to a certain point it was better, but sometimes I get myself into trouble with people when I normally would’ve avoided the situation entirely.

[@Spacey3000]

@@edwardv4546 Brother I'm not sure how much of the world you've seen but that's a man thing not an "American" thing

[@LykeArgy]

damn, that happens to me and i'm not or was ever using steroids ... biggest trigger is being on the internet and car drivers (i drive a car) when people don't stop at a crosswalk when i'm a pedestrian after 2-3 cars i just shut off mentally and step onto the road with anger boiling in me

[@bradreid6057]

What I liked most about this interview is how honest Dr. Mike is sharing personal details most simply wouldn't reveal. For example, he attributed ~37 lbs. of his current muscle mass to steroids, and ~47 lbs. if he's pushing them to the max. Bonus points to Dr. Mike for describing/defining Retrospective Analysis (why we do things) and Honor Culture (one reason we do stupid things).

[@davidtempest263]

@@bradreid6057 there is no way he. An know those figures for sure. There are plenty of bodybuilders from the pre steroid era who built massive physiques without steroids. It just takes longer because recovery takes longer and strength increases are smaller

[@lecobra418]

He is dishonest. He's a really small man about 165cm, at this kind of bodyfat he could expect to be 70kg/154lbs TOP with around 20% of fat while being natural. Nature is beautifully simple, if you're fit and really muscular the max ratio is rather easy to calculate your size in centimeter gives your weight in kilo 1:1 ratio. 180cm > 80kg when really muscular and really lean. No way he would be 180lbs while that lean naturally. That's how dishonest Mike is, he seems honest because he almost gave exact facts but he's truly not. A natural 165cm muscular guy would look like Bruce Lee, and certainly not like a 80kg beast. :)

@@lecobra418 Being braindead on full display.

[@bradreid6057]

@@lecobra418 Oh no. For someone leaning mesomorphic at 5'6", a 185 lbs. natural result with about the fat level Mike shows in the video . . . would be achievable and not particularly common. The average conscript in WW2 was 5'7 inches and weighed 154 lbs. Most were in their late teens and they were typically very lean. I think Dr. Mike has what he might've achieved natural dialed in just about right.

[@Triple_J.1]

There are much more accurate formula than given above. You must take into account wrist and ankle size. You also have to have proper muscle length (insertion points) etc. Formula will often show an average 6' man is capable of attaining just about 200lbs of lean body mass naturally. This is 220lb/100kg at 10% body fat. 180lb is more than reasonable for a man of average (5'10") or below height.

[@Skeggi]

Doctor Michael is the best! Props to him for speaking so openly about it 👏

[@LordPopeye]

Mike’s awesome. He’s funny as hell, smart as hell, and even more honest. Makes some amazing real content and this is the best of it. Eye opening and awesome at the same time.

[@nickgross1758]

Great line of questioning. Great answers, and honesty. Very few interviews have this chemistry.

[@AlexNapierHolland]

Mike is one of the most interesting people that I follow on social media. He clearly has a high level of self-awareness - and a great sense of humour.

[@KozralPrimeCMDD]

I am really happy he is being straight up brutality honest, man I wished I had the strength to do the same sometimes.

[@FinalFlash2110]

I think he's lieing about why he did steroids and he says he doesn't know what he was bullied for... That is bs. if you were bullied you won't forget what for. He's 5'6" he probably still gets bullied for it.

[@railasvuo]

​@@FinalFlash2110 I was bullied and I don't know why.

[@FinalFlash2110]

​@railasvuo are you 5'6" as an adult male? Maybe you were just an average guy who was bullied. I wouldn't say I was bullied much at all but I feel like everyone is made fun or had phases of being bullied at different ages. I remember why I was made fun of or bullied. How were you bullied? They never called you a name indicating why you were a target?

[@Korksbebig]

​@@FinalFlash2110You're as much of a detective as a kumquat jfc you ain't have awareness or understanding for shit.

[@vvm101]

Why ? Why ? Why ? Why ? Seems like he had his own answer in his head he wanted Mike to say …. ANNOYING

[@SoDidWii]

Y?

[@russneese1004]

Too many “why’s “… very accusative word… Puts the other on the defensive.

[@noplacetohideo]

I thought this exactly sounded like a child

[@TheMicahwitz]

He wanted Mike to admit that he has short man syndrome.

[@R3dCol0r]

Oh you beat me to it. My goodness this guy... Super annoying. And also really unprofessional as an interviewer.

[@carsandhealthtoddrosenzwei2661]

Best video ever, bar-none, posted by Mike. The level of reasoning, truth, and perspective is simply stunning. Thank you for being so transparent and disclosing. You rock!

[@outlandish8]

This is one of the best and most engaging interviews I have ever seen. Excellent job by both gentlemen.

[@R3dCol0r]

My goodness this interviewer.... 🤦‍♂ "Why?" "Why?" "Why?"

[@Turn2Ugin]

Dude’s a bundle of sticks

[@brianmeen2158]

Yeah the interviewer is too jumpy

[@Rockardo_]

@@Turn2Ugin😂

[@JabroniJimmy]

Why are people shitting on the interviewer? He asked engaging questions, didn’t interrupt and was able to extract some introspective thoughts from Mike. He did a fine job

[@Flahtort]

@@JabroniJimmy , i think that particular moment with "why" multiple times was not great, it's more like guy trying to explain, but you ask him a lot of question to explain his explanation to sort of mess up with him. And also, he itrettupted Mike on that moment. He was asking, why Mike want to get big, but then jumped into that "school bullying" thing.

[@BR-lq6fc]

The interviewer was really on a mission with his clichéd bullying hypothesis, and unfortunately didn't hear what was being said. Respect to Mike for his grace and generosity, as well as his vulnerability. His levels of security and self assurance are their own answer to the hypothesis posed

[@_baller]

@@BR-lq6fc yeah he had UK cuck vibes, trying to push Mike into a corner, clearly

[@justinklenk]

Well said. And btw, it's clear that this interviewer and his channel are both façades - the whole "I present myself as important - pay attention to me" clickbait - then offering only naive opinions. It's so... Fake.

[@idkanaccountname]

This is a bot comment

[@Flahtort]

Yeah. Seemed like he asked a question about reasoning behind the wish to get big, but answered it later with his on agenda, didnt actually let Mike finish his own reasoning. You dont need to have objective reasoning to love stuff. I'm personally doing extreme vocals for example. I'm doing this just because it's beautiful and when i first heard it when i was 15 I was immediately obsessed with it. My brain decided for me: "That is the thing." The same goes for lifting. You see your body gets bigger - you realise that that is the thing. Not always, but sometimes that is the answer.

[@godlikemachine645]

​@@idkanaccountname well then, I agree with the bot.

[@JAYDUBYAH29]

Mike is so agreeable and patient. Which is wild (admirable) given that he has these awful inner violent fantasies from gear. Rare self-awareness. These questions seem like the interviewer was having a hard time connecting/relating…. Which is fine, nice guy. I feel like he wanted to see certain biochemical or genetic explanations through a more psychotherapeutic one.

[@BlueBones8]

You can tell the interviewer is a bit of a softer Westernized type. I would say at least half of all men can empathize with these thoughts of inner rage and masculine dominance Mike is describing, coupled with the insecurity of being made to appear “less than” in the male social hierarchy. The awe you get from seeing an airplane as a kid, that hit home lol. And it’s stupid as hell to say “most people don’t have these thoughts” when it comes to young boys seeing a superhero like Hulk on screen and wanting to be like them. That’s literally the main appeal of superheroes lol

[@jamie.777]

The interviewer is not pumping 10 times the amount of normal testosterone, he seemed genuinely confused, because Mike doesn't look attractive, he made himself uglier by lifting man made metal and aging prematurely, as well destroy his mental health. Oh btw, mike is barely a "pro" in body building, but he has his YT cash cow 🐄

[@jamie.777]

​@BlueBones8 no way, the interviewer is a NORMAL dude. He is generally baffled, steroids make you ugly [wrinkles, tumors, etc].

[@jamie.777]

​@@BlueBones8also, as a kid I wanted to be superman or batman. NEVER 😂 the hulk, the hulk is a UGLY green guy that is stooooopid, never happy and always sad. He falls asleep and wakes up a weakling.

[@brianmeen2158]

I have these violent fantasies without gear as do many men.. I just have the self restraint to not act on them. all humans have very twisted violent or sexual fantasies - it’s a pretty normal thing but Michael seems to not realize that ..

[@dexterfurman9118]

I have never heard such an open, honest and detailed account of taking steroids. Thank you!

[@ronsapp]

First time watching Dr. Mike. I AM IMPRESSED. Could listen to him all day.

[@davidleeder1447]

Dr. Mike is really respectable to be this honest and straightforward about steroid use. I have gained a ton of respect for him because of this. Unflinching honesty.

[@dannyg4962]

The average person doesn’t want things like that? There’s a lot of people including myself who aren’t on steroids who would disagree with this wholeheartedly. When I was a kid and teenager I regularly daydreamed about having powers like Goku, Superman, etc. I’m in my 30s now and If I drink a little more caffeine than usual I still end up doing stuff like that. A lot of men love the idea of feeling powerful. Like Dr. Mike said, it’s testosterone.

[@brianmeen2158]

Yep there is not a single guy on earth that if he could snap his fingers and gain more muscle and strength that wouldn’t do it. Same goes for women and having nice breasts and fit body. It’s just they lack the discipline and determination to achieve it

[@Limemill]

@@brianmeen2158Depends on whether there’s a choice. Between being stronger and living longer and healthier many would opt for the latter option. Between being stronger and being smarter many would opt for the latter version too (think better career choices, more money, etc.). Just offering more of something to someone would of course have one accept it. Doesn’t matter what it is

[@tmy8711]

Gear won't make you a saiyan ya knob

[@dbac8891]

I thought the same thing

[@tlc4382]

Agree with you completely. Seems like everyone at one point fantasized about it however only few are able to turn it into tangible results

[@electro-acupuncture]

The heart is a muscle it grows from steroids but the valves do not. Imagine you had a water system designed for 100 psi pressure, with a 100 psi rated valves and pump. Now imagine you put a 200 psi pump in the system with everything rated for 100psi. That’s why heart attacks happen. Valves can’t take the extra pressure

[@nathansmith3608]

Good analogy. Replacing a high efficiency low pressure pump with a low efficiency high pressure pump would give bad results in most applications - human circulatory system included

[@Kaniala-l7s]

It wrecks your veins in the process as well. Expands them, kinda like Nick Walker. I understand varicose veins are hereditary and show, but looking at Nick Walker, you can tell the roids took a tool on his veins because they show so much more.

[@pira707]

we need steroids that also increase heart valve size

[@pureamericanmetal]

- "What were you bullied for" - "Nothing" That's it. Kids can be cruel to other kids for no particular reason. Many grow up and become complete psychos; only a few mature. Anyway, great interview. I love Michael's openness and honesty. Just wow.

[@stuartpenney9717]

Mike, you’re a legend. You have my infinite respect for the integrity and honesty shown here. 🙏🏻

[@calebberaud9747]

I’ve been on trt for approximately 5 months, just changed my dosage to 180 mg’s of testosterone cypionate. My pre test numbers were 240, I’m also a combat veteran with ptsd and I have prostate cancer in my family. My psa number is lower than pre trt, my thoughts aren’t as erratic and I my ptsd doesn’t exacerbate as frequently. Now I’m not gonna stack this with any other steroids, but for me personally I needed it

[@Koyoo11]

He says “Steroids” but he’s not talking about TRT. He’s talking about mega doses and harmful substance like Tren and high dose orals.

[@jsnow6925]

Big difference between getting back to normal healthy numbers and those super physiological levels

[@michaelholland6533]

I hope you feel a lot better, brother. 👊🏻

[@Radicalidiot-c8m]

​@@Koyoo11thanks for pointing that out, I think most people think trt is steroids 😂

[@Yourmomshousemyrules]

I was prescribed 200mg. I lowered it to 125mg and my level is nearly 900. 🤷 Everyone is different, but 180 for me is extremely high.

[@juiceyou321]

I've been following Dr. Mike for years. Top notch. The more I watch him, the more I can't help but focus on his blinking. Contacts? That's exactly how I blink when my contacts are at the end of their life. I've watched countless videos he's made and I've never heard an explanation.

[@ssu123]

It can be akin to a habit. Hes unconscious about it.

[@Joe11100]

He's got 6-pack eyelids, of course he blinks hard as fuck

[@yvonnejones4248]

Many pictures of a younger Dr. Mike show him wearing glasses, so contact lenses are a good guess. Some people are more sensitive to them. Steroids can also cause or worsen eye issues (dryness, burning, etc). If my eyes were dry or felt like they were burning, I'd blink constantly and roll my eyes back to try and wet them. As it is, I wear glasses and am terrified of putting anything in my eyes. 😅

[@scarletskunkjob9842]

I presume anxiety. He seems like a very nervous guy.

[@SLC41071]

Can we appreciate how it wasn’t that many years ago no one would go into this much detail about juice? I can remember when just saying you did stuff was this huge deal. Mike will answer anything. Hopefully more people will listen to him before making their own decision.

[@rlm4471]

Great interview. One of the most thoughtful and articulate meatheads I've ever encountered. I was bullied too, but it was all relational aggression (i.e., not physical). It didn't make me want to get bulky and strong. It made it very difficult for me to trust people, and it made me very reluctant to form casual friendships. Unless I feel very confident that you've got my back, you're just another person. Sometimes, I think the physical bullying route would have been easier.

[@Jake-im8eq]

Wasn’t expecting to like this interview but was honestly really surprised at how honest he was. Unbiased, just outlined literally all the benefits and detriments with no agenda behind his comments

[@BlagoP]

The biggest thing he didn't mention is that 1 in 500 people have a heart defect that they don't know about and have no symptoms from, which when on steroids could lead to heart problems and heart attack.

[@paveldimitrov998]

Good point, but in my opinion it's something else. A lot of steroid users (not the pros) use bad quality stuff for years, mix compounds without knowing how to cycle on and off, don't track their health (scans, blood work, etc). A lot of these people also smoke, drink and do other drugs on the side, eat the worst food possible and generally speaking don't have the discipline to follow fully what this lifestyle requires. Add all of that and yeah, people happen do die earlier than expected.

[@SlowestKing]

Yeah, I had a buddy like this when we were attached to a SOF unit. He was basically taking unofficially government-sanctioned gear with the operators and got massive. I'm talking this dude went from a tall but averagely built dude to an absolute meat monster in under 3 years. A few years down the road, he collapses at home and has to be hospitalized for a week for a latent heart condition he didn't know he had, but which was significantly worsened by the gear.

[@fishoutofwater3752]

@@paveldimitrov998 Its impossible to take steroids safe.

[@zacharysherry2910]

.02% chance of this is the BIGGEST issue?

[@gordocarbo]

@@paveldimitrov998 Good post and you are right If it dont come from my px its not going in this bod Risk of clots, hardening of the arteries, polycythemia from them even in not so big doses is real. Kidney damage will happen period, thats scary if youve seen someoene die from kidney disease

[@hf-nctrnl1890]

Good advertisement for not to do steroids

[@KT_P_James]

Why? Dr. Mike is a multimillionaire from it.

[@Rino37]

@@KT_P_Jameswrong. He has a PHD and has worked hard for years outside the gym to build his business.

[@brianmeen2158]

@@Rino37. Take a close look at the KZbin fitness community - about 75% of the creators in it are using steroids or other performance enhancers. They do have side effects but many people would not be where they are without them. Michael is educated but if he didn’t have big muscular look his following would go down quite a bit. Look at Sam Sulek or liver king - get them off gear and their following would mostly disappear. I really don’t think the average person realizes just how many people are using steroids or have used them in the past

[@jafulton89]

@@Rino37 he straight up said himself that his business would have meant dick if he wasn't jacked and its the whole reason he took steroids.

[@jaybinks871]

@@KT_P_Jameshe looks physically disgusting and his massive muscle increase only makes him look more of a manlet and reeks of cope

[@jg5719]

Mad respect for Dr Mike and his level of transparency.

[@jamesstencil1916]

Real reason , you Feeel like your 16 again and strength, I love these two speaking about this, thank you Gents for these great questions and answers 🇺🇸🤠🇺🇸

[@traceydelfs2657]

I love that dr. Mike is so intelligently honest. As a casual fitness human, I’ve learned and laughed a lot from his content. This was captivating insight.

[@jonathanjones270]

I love that you actually listen to him and ask him follow up questions based on what he is telling you, instead of just reading off a list of pre-prepared questions. Well done.

[@message_service]

Thank you 🌟 I like the part where Dr. I speaks the unspeakable ❤👍

[@GodlessPhilosopher]

I love how open and vulnerable and emotional Dr. Mike is. Great role model for all men.

[@Daedalos_MSV]

He knowingly took shortcut, even though he was fully aware of consequences. He is excusing his action on the environment, AKA everybody else was doing it, so I must do it as well. Now his business has reached the level he wanted, so he has no longer needs to take PEDs. I presume his body and normal hormone levels are so F-ed that, if not already, he will start testosterone replacement therapy. Plus, by his words, he shorten his life for about 10-15 years by using steroids and stressing his body over the limit. Is this a role model for others? NO On the other side, Mike is/was more open about steroid usage, in comparison with other influencers. I must give him that, and I also admire him for level of knowledge he has in the sport science, but it does not mean he could/should be a role model to anyone.

[@HenriqueVieira8128]

I love this guy. He is honest. He is sincere. Why can't everyone tell the truth and how they feel like he does?

[@Jakjakattack]

Major props to both Mike and the interviewer. Great questions and genuine honest answers. We need more of this

[@liggerstuxin1]

13:30 I let my son win a couple times when we were wrestling and he was very little. When he would grow older and stronger, though we would wrestle and practice actual jiu-jitsu. Training actual wrestling. So when a bully tried to pop up, he got slammed into a couple lockers and that pretty well stopped the bullying. I was bullied, so I made sure that my son was not going to be. He was 180 pounds at age 16 but now he’s happy at 150 pounds in skinny. He’s now a man and I couldn’t be any more proud of how balanced and capable/successful he is becoming.

[@alexmoscatelli149]

You seem like a great father. Good job, man!

[@newmonkmusicproject8336]

Hopefully Doctor Mike just gets off steroids- he’s too smart, educated, and driven to have the need for detrimental drugs

[@allensmith8953]

12:20 he says "the average person doesn't have that feeling." Bro, you don't know that. You can say the average person doesn't ACT on those feelings, but the average person can and most certainly does have the desire for unadulterated strength and power. That's why the concept of superheros even exist.

[@101MY]

Yep he does that, throwing numbers without any backing.

[@Liom-rj7ug]

" why "

[@madams989]

Well the feelings aren’t as strong otherwise most people would be on steroids

[@stuartbellwithvintage2stro375]

This interviewee is so articulate and honest. Very refreshing.

[@TomIsTrying]

Wonder if Dr. Mike has ever tried therapy. He’s so smart and self-aware that I’m sure he’s considered it. Hope he’s ok. Massive respect.

[@MisticStyles]

Why do KZbinrs that hock AG-1 lose credibility? The baked in ads are beyond ridiculous at this point. It's all a cash grab until people figure out it's bullshit. Time for a new strategy.

[@_baller]

@@MisticStyles I would say it makes AG1 look bad more than someone taking 3 grand to say how cool it is

[@vlada]

​@@_ballerYou're right, being a brazen whore isn't considered as character flaw.

[@bryanfrombuffalo7685]

All supplements are trash ..only creatine...

[@dereknalley]

"Why are you drawn to being big?" It's the same as anyone else being obsessed with fast cars, expensive watches, glamorous houses, etc. Except you want that to be your body instead of a car. My body is just the car my brain drives to work.

[@NCG00N]

Makes sense, but using steroids in order to get your dream body is no different than selling drugs to get your dream car.

[@ukestudio3002]

Better yet..drop those obsessions. They’re not healthy mentally, emotionally, nor psychologically, in the long term.

[@Turbogto_guy]

@@NCG00NSo?

[@doristhebrowndog]

why?

[@williamdarden3050]

Steroids sounds like that potion you use in a game to go berserk yet it takes your health away for a limited amount of time😂

[@veo16]

It’s not limited. The effects diminish you physically and mentally for a long time if not forever. It’s like Mannoroth’s blood that makes the orcs green. You’re fucked from your very first dose. But yes, it gives you raw power as Mike explained.

[@kevinkelly9895]

I VERY much Appreciate that this guys being Honest , both with himself and others... Thank you

[@87sport]

I love Dr. Mike for his honest approach to bodybuilding. He tells you the good, the bad and yes, the ugly of it all. Plus, even if you do not use gear, his approach to training will push you beyond what you ever thought you could do for gains.

[@redmtl1]

Michael, it took courage to share your emotions like this. I appreciate you.

[@ninosantana2214]

Cycled for 8 years now. Was 420lbs got down to 190lbs bulked back up to 240lbs and back and forth to build mass. I have a lot of loose skin about 40lbs of loose skin so I’d actually be 200lbs and after my last scan 187lbs not me is pure muscle. Sure gear does amazing things physically, but it also does a lot of negative especially mentally. The damage I’ve done to my system is irreversible. Full body acne that has taken for ever to clear up and still comes back a lot no matter what, liver issues at 32 that put me in the hospital due to my liver enzymes being so low I couldn’t break anything down or filter, kidney issues causing me to piss blood and leak protein into my system in negative ways, I was pre diabetic for close to a year and worst of all at 30 years old right in front of my wife and kids while at a gas station going to a Halloween even I suffered a heart attack that almost took me out. Blood pressure was 210 / 195 by the time I made it to the hospital so I can only imagine how high it was when I was going through it. All I remember was stepping out of my car to pay for the gas, looking at my wife and telling her I don’t feel right, then my middle daughter who was 16 at the time looked at me and asked why I was shaking which I didn’t even realize at the time, then everything just went black… all I remember was the feeling of sever anxiety and a ton of pain in my chest and arms and then I was out like a light shaking on the floor while my family watched helplessly. On top of the physical issues the mental has been even worse especially form Tren. The amount of anger over every little thing is insane, constant anxiety, depression, always thinking my wife is cheating on me when she never even leaves the house, checking her phone every time I hear it ring which is something I’ve never done. The amount of paranoia you get is just insane. It has almost ruined my relationship. It took me a very long time to heal from all that and even now till this day the depression and anxiety has never ever gone away. It has literally ruined me and changed the person I was entirely. I would never recommend steroids to anyone. Unless you are going for an ifbb pro card or power lifting championship then it’s never worth it especially just to look good. You will never heal from the damage these compounds do to you.

[@dallastoto3189]

Much thanks to you for your opening up about the dangers of STEROIDS. You should do high school tours. A lot of kids are using now.

[@coleharris1945]

Except he didn't quit steroids? Why are you lying in the title?

[@OutlawMaxV]

What a damn good interview. Steven with fantastic questions and Michael's raw honesty and bravery to speak up on subjects not spoken about, bravo to both of you!

[@arnomuskens]

Candid and sensitive and boorish! Wow. The answers and their questions are grounded in authenticity and intelligence, well done to the both of you.

[@emilienbialecki448]

Nothing about steroids is appealing. Especially the early deaths.

[@neilmeigh6516]

If someone hasn’t ever used them, it would be easy to reach that conclusion.

[@Bobsam-m1p]

​@@neilmeigh6516I've never used them, never will. But obviously the muscle gain is one appealing thing about the fuh

[@SAFFRONINFERNO]

Are steroids more dangerous than vaccines?

[@Magnus_Loov]

@@neilmeigh6516 On the whole in the long run, the negatives overwhelms the positives. The positives is only for the initial years.

[@paragon1017]

Yet the pill is a steroid,that every female in the world takes..it's derived from decca...steroids and steroid abuse are too totally different things

[@The1trueDave]

Damn, that was just getting interesting, about the psychology of confrontation and so forth. I mean it was all good but I'd have liked to hear more about that, because I still get that now, well into middle age - if someone gets confrontational and looks like they really mean it I'm just instantly transported 40 years back to the schoolyard again. Wish I knew how to deprogram that... or at least I wish I'd known 20 years ago...

[@RSRS-ws3px]

It’s definitely different from person to person. I have taken up to 1000mg of test weekly and felt great. I tried 300mg of tren weekly and I became moody, quicker temper, etc.. so I stopped it after 8 weeks even though my body was changing daily. I decided to just stick with testosterone from now on and be happy with what it gives me.

[@Magnus_Loov]

It's the long term effects and risks that are the dangerous thing with steroids. Even if you feel great now, you will have shortened your life for certain. For example the telomers of your DNA get shorter if your testosterone levels are higher. The length of the telomers determines how long a person lives even if he doesn't get ill before old age. It is one of the reasons why men live many years shorter than women.

[@brianmeen2158]

Yeah you want to stay far away from tren as it causes pronounced mood effects I know quite a few guys on steroids or trt and most feel better on them. Only the guys that take huge cycles of more androgenic steroids tend to feel bad on them

[@Magnus_Loov]

@@brianmeen2158 There is a difference between "feeling great" at the moment and the long term health effects and effects of a shorter life span.

[@Lil_fang866]

​@@Magnus_Loov makes me feel better ngl knowing I have a shorter life. I get to enjoy it more and not care about future. Good

[@Magnus_Loov]

​@@Lil_fang866 How can knowing you have a shorter life make you feel better? I feel great as a natural AND know that I will live longer than a person who isn't. That is a win-win for sure! Besides I can also take pride in that what I have accomplished is all due to my own efforts and what my genes code for and not something that didn't have to do with me. That makes me feel totally superior in every way to a doped up person. I did this. I take pride in knowing that I am capable of it and I will live longer than the person fooling himself!

[@ericbeauchamp7385]

Dr Mike's candidness is SO valuable to those who are experiencing these exact same symptoms and thinking it's something that's wrong with them. Providing this introspection might actually save someone's life.

[@TheTrailRabbit]

I mean if you're experiencing those symptoms there is something wrong with you

[@philhagoes9339]

Excellent interview! One aspect that was briefly demonstrated, is how incredibly witty and funny Dr. Michaelis , in contrast to how intelligent and articulate he makes a point. I learn something new every time he speaks.

[@germain9074]

Note he's talking about steroid abuse, not TRT, which is steroids used at a therapeautic level to bring your test to a normal baseline level

[@laughingtothebanklikehahah3618]

5:12 he didn’t sound confident saying that 😭

[@modev4163]

I saw this at that moment😂 had to stop the dam tape😂

[@NickSmith-w3p]

I am glad to know "my boy got lucky" LOL 5:10

[@miguelrodrigues3650]

The sheer amount of honesty Mr. Baldy displays is amazing. Great guy!

[@DNGMaestro]

The honesty here is refreshing. Well done!

[@JamaaLS]

This guy should be the voice of Beast.

[@_baller]

Point of steroids? To be jacked, simple as that

[@Hooli31]

Think it s also mental, powerfullness and the desire not to be a piece of shit anymore, it s the whole package. Which is an illusion because steroid provides that just momentarily before all the problems arise

[@robm6803]

You take em if you are not satisfied with your life. You hope it will get better. And if not it sure gets shorter..

[@_baller]

@@robm6803 no not life, it’s just to get more jacked, life “may” get “better”, in terms of attentions mostly male attention, and social media, otherwise it’s just to be jacked

[@BigHossHackworth]

Simple as

[@mrnastymrnasty]

That’s not true. There is also cognitive benefits. It increases your libido and your immunity. You have more vitality and confidence. I’m 50 and I take 300 milligrams per week. I feel incredible!

[@_baller]

Interviewer reminds me of Don Lemon, I can’t tell if he’s just that dumb or is he gas lighting, makes a guest question their own existence, can’t just keep asking why

[@davesmith826]

He's apparently a 'CEO', of something.

[@anthonyborthwick2401]

Phospipath

[@subject8776]

Sometimes interviewers ask or repeat questions in a midly annoying manner to probe what the other person is trying to say. Like trying to "force out" what the other person really thinks. The CEO guy probably did it too much since a couple of comments are about that. But doing that is generally ok, imo. But like many things, doing it too much is inappropriate.

[@_baller]

@@subject8776 go away

[@subject8776]

@@_baller Why?

[@scarper2x]

Mad respect to Dr. Mike. The interviewer has a lot of improvements to make; interrupting and asking for the pictures on air (this is a behind the scenes producer request) made for some awkward moments.

[@diggityfresh1650]

Dr Mike is a G. It helps people a lot to hear from someone that will not lie to you about the good and the bad. It's a more powerful message than 'drugs are bad'

[@kylechu4115]

I took gear because I hated my body and felt very uncomfortable in my body, despite having lifted naturally for 10 plus years. Fun fact, steroids made me hate my body even more, even though I looked what I would consider “buff” relative to my standards. Getting off them, I still struggle with body dysmorphia, but I’ve seen both sides and I prefer the one that leaves me healthy and promotes longevity.

[@stevelynch5843]

I had been working out for a long time and got some female attention but when I started taking steriods, as the weights grew so did female attention, before I knew it I was be dating 2-3-4 women at a time, so my love for steriods grew as the rate of women went up, it wasn't till I got very very sick from taking steriods and had to stop, I realized it was me the whole time the steriods just gave me the confidence I needed and still have

[@SAFFRONINFERNO]

What about side effects?

[@_baller]

@@stevelynch5843 lies, you got men from steroids

[@Superdog-gr5yh]

He just said he got sick from taking steroid

[@QuanPookie]

Which says everything about serous users. You need it because of your insecurities.

[@harvestblades]

At 12:30 the weak looking seemingly kind of femieguy tries to tell Mike the Hulk demonstrating his strength isn't appealing to the average male & so either I'm the oddball as is Mike or this guy doesn't have a strong grasp of what masculinity even is or how it feels. I'm a gen Xer so was raised on Stallone! Schwarzenegger, Red Dawn & typical 80s action movies. I've always looked up to those that are the peak of masculinity & the male physique & that seems like it should be the norm & not the exception.

[@aldoantolli9993]

I respect Mike's honesty and vulnerability. This sort of discussion changes people. I enjoy Mike's podcasts very much. His persona pleasantly reminds me of a friend from high school.