Boeing 747 / 787 FMC Route Tutorial - Add Waypoints , Route Changes, Go Direct - FS2020

[@amarket3375]

This is what we need. Straight to point and easy to understand

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Thank you. Straight and to the point is my style.

[@z0688]

So this will be pretty much the same as the 787 and the CJ4? Great job again. I was missing the "put it over part" in editing. Thumbs up

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Yes it will.

[@YMIR1219]

Okay, thank you for the short and concise explanations, quick question though: What if you're already in flight, as in never inputted anything into the FMC for a purely manual experience, and you want to set a GPS NAV destination? I've gotten to filling out the DEST field and such, but my ORIGIN field is blank, what would I put there to avoid discontinuity errors in the route? Would the airport that I started out of be the answer, even though I'm over 1500 miles from that location already?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

It may not be the case still, but in MSFS, the departure point can’t be entered if in the air. The points in front of the airplane would be the only ones that matter. Discontinuities happen and they are used to differentiate the end of the departure, enroute phase, and the arrival. An arrival or departure can end on a heading or course to be flown to expect vectors after the last fix. That is when discontinuities are needed. If they were deleted the airplane would just fly to the next fix in the FMS instead of flying the heading or course down at the end of the arrival or departure. In MSFS without ATC, discontinuities can be deleted if desired.

[@racemylife1]

This was useful for when my mid flight save deleted all my nav points on my transpacific flight

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Your determination to fly that long is admirable. Glad it helped you out.

[@pastorhaze9509]

Bro ur a G for this video. I been using the fmc so wrong i thought it was broken!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

It still is broken but it is at least able to be used a little bit like a real FMC.

[@pastorhaze9509]

@@thecorporatepilotdad Its all good, Im just happy i figured out how to add and delete the waypoints efficiently, I also realized i was using my ILS APP wrong too LOLi thought the whole plane was broken but it was me lol

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@pastorhaze9509 I'm glad it all worked out and I'm even more glad you're not broken.

[@pastorhaze9509]

@@thecorporatepilotdad my wife would beg to differ

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@pastorhaze9509 I know how that goes! If you want a great FMS download the CJ4 Working Title Mod. It works very close to the real thing. I made some videos on how to use it. They have takeoff and landing performance in it along with the ability to load a route and it has working VNAV. I have a couple tutorials on how to use it. Their mod provides some other realistic features of the CJ4 over the default airplane but the FMS works really well with a few exceptions but to my knowledge they are always improving it.

[@BloxyGamezAV]

Does the autopilot fly the plane towards the waypoints or do you have to manually change the heading?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

The autopilot will fly the route if LNAV is selected on the flight guidance panel.

[@BloxyGamezAV]

@@thecorporatepilotdad ok

[@TomTheSiberianHusky]

Very informative and to the point! Excellent for the classic FMC, but you forgot the 787. For example I can't just build my route by going to RTE then RTE DATA like you can when in the midst of modifying my route.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

When I made this video these methods also worked for the B787. The FMCs were nearly identical and I thought they still were. If not, I need to investigate and fix the title. That FMC is a disaster and took forever to figure out. Having it freeze for 5 seconds on the RTE or Legs page didn't help either.

[@macbrush]

Is there a function similar to "Direct To" on 787? I found it extremely difficult in certain situations without this function to skip ahead or go back to some waypoints.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

One possibly solution is move the waypoint to the top of the route or delete the waypoints prior to the desired fix. The FMCs in the Boeing aircraft need a major revamp. To put it nicely, they are awful in their current state. If you want a working FMS try the CJ4 Working Title mod - if you're on PC and haven't downloaded it already.

[@adamgibson9385]

Is it the same on the 787? Can you show how to change the approach if ATC changes the approach from the one you set originally?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Yes, but this video was made prior to AAU1 when the Boeing FMCs were updated. To change the approach simply press DEP/ARR twice, press ARR (R2), then in the top right corner (R1), press the selected approach under APPROACHES and select another approach from the list and then select the transition.

[@MrNineGs]

Nice tutorial, you program it as I'm used to in fax and p3d but doesn't seem to work in the 787 or 747 in fs2020. What could I be coming wrong?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

That is in the 747. It doesn't program like a real fms. The real fms is much easier. Do it the way I did. It does work in the 787. Hopefully they fix the FMCs too but after yesterday's update I'm not holding my breath.

[@AndrewWilsonirishbore]

I’ve been using this but when I insert a star at arrival destination it deletes or changes my Sid from departure. Any ideas why? Your video does not show how to insert a Sid and star

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

It does not but I was showing how to enter a route manually since someone asked me. I am not sure why it changes the SID/STAR. I am not a fan of the default FMCs. If you want a better functioning FMS look at the CJ4 Working Title Mod. That FMS works pretty close to the real thing and it is much easier to use. The lack of working FMC/FMSs in FS2020 was and still is a huge disappointment. Have you tried loading the departure first and then the arrival? You could also load the departure on the ground and then load the arrival in the air when you're past the last point on the SID.

[@AndrewWilsonirishbore]

@@thecorporatepilotdad thanks for your advice, i did think about getting airborne then waiting to see what runway ATC assigned before selecting an arrival, so will try that, and will look at the mod you suggested. thanks again for taking the time to reply.

[@Nogapniba]

No way lol it took me one months to find this

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

At least you found it! Maybe KZbin was hiding it from you.

[@Nogapniba]

@@thecorporatepilotdad haha yeah finally I can direct when atc tells me to

[@jeromehugues]

Hello. Is it possible to enter GPS coordinates to declare a waypoint into the FMS ?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Not with the version in the video.

[@bahia9991]

How do I go through the route on the MFD? I mean, can I see the arrival airport without having to zoom out?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Currently, there isn’t a way to see the arrival without zooming out. For example in the CJ4 Working Title mod you can go to the plan page and select next waypoint under MFD ADVance and see the route point by point without zooming out.

[@bahia9991]

@@thecorporatepilotdad Seriously? This is terrible! I can see using the map, but I was trying to really simulate. So in real life I would have to wait till I was close to the arrival to check how the approach will be.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@bahia9991 I agree. The FMCs in the default aircraft were a disappointment and there was a VNAV button on lots of default aircraft and VNAV didn’t work. I was very disappointed by that upon release and it’s still not fixed. Working Title’s CJ4 has VNAV and the FMS allows viewing the route point by point without zooming out. I’m not sure if the FMC in the 747 will do that, but unless the route is entered the way in the video it’s hard to see the route. If you want realism, the CJ4 Working Title mod is the best in my opinion. Since Working Title is a part of Microsoft/Asobo, I strongly believe the FMCS will get fixed in every aircraft eventually.

[@krisdavidoff181]

Thank you for this video. It is possible to change route during the flight? I've tried to change waypoints (I guess in the same way you do here) in order to achieve controllers requests, but unfortunately failed. I also have some problems with AP and AT so I'm guessing that the problem is my own installation :)

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

It can be done in the air. I have done it myself and it works. I also have an AP tutorial in the 787 that goes over AT.

[@krisdavidoff181]

@@thecorporatepilotdad thank you for the reply! Tomorrow I will surely try! :)

[@chudolf2]

how to indicate on mfd altitude info as in a320??

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

I am not sure if the B747 has that feature in MSFS. Some aircraft do so, but since I rarely fly airliners in the sim, I am not able to give that answer.

[@phildobz375]

When i try to go direct, i select a waypoint hit r1 to put it up top and hit execute but it always intecepts my departure airport to the way point. Not present position direct… help

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

When selecting the waypoint does the waypoint name show up in the scratch pad? From there pressing R1 should make the airplane go direct to the fix after execute is pressed. I haven't used the 747 on my sim in over a year so I'm a little rusty with that FMC.

[@phildobz375]

@@thecorporatepilotdad the name does show up on the scratch pad, I found the glitch with FS2020, You cant go direct a fix in a STAR or SID. if you try and go direct on any of those points it will go intercept the course between your departure point and that waypoint.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@phildobz375 that’s good to know. Hopefully these default FMCs get an update in the future.

[@melvin06gustafsson54]

Please hello my, is there Any app i can use to find all differens routs and points,”?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

SimBrief has routes. I use the website I use for real world flying but SimBrief is free and will do the same thing as far as a I know.

[@jeremyolsen7908]

@@thecorporatepilotdad which website is that, if you don't mind me asking?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@jeremyolsen7908 FltPlan.com

[@carmcb]

once I change to KCLE the entire route disappears :(

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

I am not sure why this might be happening. The video is about two years old and there have been quite a few updates, but it should still work.

[@danieldoyle2080]

Hey, how do you change the speeds on the legs page when in flight? I was flying 787 on Xbox from Copenhagen to Oslo on the autopilot using LNAV, VNAV and the Auto-throttles. On legs my speeds throughout the entire journey was saying 310. I was typing in 250 on the scratchpad to start slowing down during the descent and then pressing the buttons on the right hand side of the FMC but nothing was working. Unlike on the left side of the FMC where the buttons were in grey, they right hand side buttons were all highlighted in blue. I could not change a thing. What was I doing wrong?

[@danieldoyle2080]

I created the IFR flight plan on the main menu and then clicked fly now. I never changed the flight plan when I was doing the flight.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

I would have to check but at this time, I do not believe it is possible to adjust the speeds on the legs page in the FMC on any default aircraft. The default FMCs were a huge disappointment in terms of functionality. One way to get the speeds to do something is adjusting the AT speed bug when there is a speed restriction ahead. You're probably doing that already anyway.

[@danieldoyle2080]

@@thecorporatepilotdad Thanks for the reply! Yes the only way I was able to do the speeds that ATC wanted me to do was to turn off VNAV and descend the aircraft myself and leave the throttles on auto-throttles.

[@RicardoSantos-xe7sb]

cool video. how do i open the flight mapper?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

By flight mapper do you mean the navigation display in the airplane? That’s shown in the video. The low enroute chart with the route on it is a screen shot from skyvector.com.

[@MrDamasterofall]

Is it possible to edit the altitude that you want to hit a fix at?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

If there is I’m not sure since I haven’t used that airplane in many updates. The CJ4 by Working Title is capable of changing the altitude at a fix in the FMS.

[@mothanna2320]

some time ATC advise to fly direct to waypoint how to do that

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

In the B747 or 787 delete all the waypoints before that fix or put it in the top left position on the FMC just like in the video where I placed it in the middle.

[@LuisMedina-cr9db]

yea. It is good, but it doesn't work for B787. You can not delete/overwrite any point.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

I’m hoping the FMCs get a remake in the near future. I thought this worked for the 787 also but we’ve been through several updates since this video was made.

[@hpharold23]

Great, thank you

[@manuelbussotti900]

How I remove the waypoint?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

select the delete button and then press that line like in the video. If you want a properly working FMS download the CJ4 Working Title Mod. The default FMCs are very difficult to operate compared to the CJ4 WTM which is close to the real FMS.

[@sandpiper-fu6db]

1:13

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Did you have a question about the screen at 1:13?

[@sandpiper-fu6db]

@@thecorporatepilotdad sry only note of the display in order to understand Thank you for your this video！

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@sandpiper-fu6db Not sure if there was an autocorrect in your reply or not but the L1 L5 and R1 and R5 at 1:13 is just showing how the buttons are referred to. L=Left column and R = right column. So if R3 was referred to it would be the 3rd button down in the right column.

[@mootpoint7053]

This game is so annoying it never loads your flight plan from the pre flight map!!!? How is the average user supposed to know how to use the FMC it's ridiculous. There's no training on it whatsoever. The only training offered is in the Airbus and they teach you how to land and take off it's so lame it really ticks me off.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

The flight plan should load but who knows what has changed with past updates. Once you program the FMC a few times it is very easy. There are multiple FMS/FMC tutorials on KZbin.

[@manuelbussotti900]

Sorry I dont understand well ahahaha

[@michaeltoddaviation]

Please delete tutorial videos if updates make things obsolete.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Surely, that will happen when the FMCs are updated. 👮‍♀️