Boeing sanctioned over release of door plug blow out details

The NTSB is sanctioning Boeing after its executives provided reporters with an update into the Max 9 door plug investigation. The safety board does not allow parties to an investigation to go public with information until the investigation is complete. NBC’s Tom Costello reports for TODAY.
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#boeing

[@jameshoopes6467]

“We have a strong foundation of focusing on safety.” No. No you don’t. Saying that doesn’t make it true. Your focus has been on quarterly profits.

[@blairhoughton7918]

They had a strong foundation. They drilled through it looking for gold and jewels because a b-school sold them a xeroxed treasure map.

[@Sashazur]

It’s a true statement if you look at it like this: Their foundation was the old Boeing which really did focus on safety. Then the MBAs who took over built a pile of 💩 on top of it.

[@jimk8520]

Yeah, she should have said had not have when making that statement. The statement she made was actually true before the MD merger put MD execs in control of the company. It’s all been downhill since then.

[@4-SeasonNature]

That's why large companies all have public relations specialists.

[@Codacoli]

This is a bad look, did they even get the astronauts stuck in space on Boeing’s star-liner back home?

[@aaypd9693]

Greedy executives killing great companies

[@drextrey]

As it always been, Northel and many others have fallen the same hole.

[@oboealto]

@@aaypd9693 He’s backed by the Boeing board, who hired him for the job and have been supporting his horrendous management. CEOs have bosses too, and in the case of Boeing, they’re dysfunctional too

[@SteveJobsIsGod]

“Rate is not my priority right now” I’m not sure if she understands that this implies that at another point rate will become the priority over safety

[@petewilcox3354]

The scary part is she knows exactly what it implies

[@aboutface102]

Rate is not their priority right now because they are being forced to prioritize safety

[@williamshockley7692]

Just wanted to chime in with my .02 cents as someone with a long standing 20 year plus relationship with Boeing while serving in the military, as a contractor *_to_* Boeing, as a contractor *_for_* Boeing, and as part of their commercial airplane division. There's a common refrain or expression you'll hear on the the factory floor in both Everett and Renton, Washington. *_"Overtime Solves All Problems"_* which leads to burnout and a very high employee attrition and turn over ratio. I remember during my initial training and orientation one of the supervisors commenting that the company needed to hire 100 warm bodies just to find 25 who make it through their first year at Boeing. Don't even get me started on their KUKA robots and FAUB fiasco which turned into a 6 year ordeal with the robots eventually scrapped after repeated failure to make production goals. I was so very happy and elated to get away from that place. It's simple to earn a six figure income while working at Boeing, it's just too bad you won't have anytime to spend all of that money.

[@oboealto]

oh, I thought that by "right now" she meant "while the camera's rolling"

[@KelvinAung95]

“She” thats the first problem 😂

[@engineered-mind]

Profits over Safety Company = Boeing

[@roger0929]

Pretty much every publicly traded company in the U.S.

[@77space-vt8wi]

Get real. Some guy forgot to insert the retention bolts when he reinstalled the door. It's that simple and won't happen again.

[@UC4AQUgrQ9EwVIGoF0w7xHXg]

​@@77space-vt8wi and then everyone laughed

[@mmaster767]

​​@@77space-vt8wi?🤣 and what will be "forgotten" tomorrow?

[@that1guy_248]

This what happens when finance guys take over an engineering firm. Innovation and quality be damned, they only know how to cut costs in all the wrong places.

[@pindapoy1596]

@that1guy_248 It is more complicated than that. The finance guys are saying : cut costs by 4-1/2% (for example) but it is still the engineering guys who say: By not doing this or that we can save this much. The finance guys have no technical knowledge where the actual cost cutting on the "hardware" should take place.

[@that1guy_248]

@@pindapoy1596 Lol, they didn't cut cost on the hardware. They cut cost on the labor. They outsourced part of the manufacturing that use to be done in house. And then they stonewalled their own QA team so the exec can say he made the right decision and get a fat stock bonus.

[@pindapoy1596]

@@that1guy_248...... it is still the engineering guys who say: By not doing this or that we can save this much...... That includes work operations therefore labor. But point well taken

[@paulroese1376]

safety doesn't increase our quarterly profits or stock price. shareholder value is job #1 stopr lying and saying safety is!

[@blairhoughton7918]

Safety absolutely increases your profits, because it eliminates the costs of accident liability. You don't have high payouts and you don't have high insurance premiums. People who shortcut safety processes act like they're trying to be more profitable but if you look at Boeing now that's not working out for them. The part that's criminal, or should be, is that they knew this all along. They were just gambling on how much they were increasing other people's risks and how much liability the government would assign to them for it.

[@paulroese1376]

@@blairhoughton7918 but Corps have law firms on retainer who will drag suits out for decades and decades plus insurance companies to pay off victims if needed. it's all part of the cost of doing business. no one goes to jail for neglect for endangering the public. the fine if any are so small to be meaningless.

[@blairhoughton7918]

@@paulroese1376 All those things drive the cost of liability up. Double self-defeating.

[@paulroese1376]

@@blairhoughton7918 my company was bought by a firm and they told us they would make cuts. one fellow said if cut were made in development what new products would they have to show in 5 years. the corporate guy said what makes you think we will own this place in 5 years? that is the thinking. short term only! wake up amigo.

[@apl175]

Yeah this is what happens if you "maximize shareholder value" and base your exec comp and ben on share price. How's that working out now for you Boeing? Make no mistake it's ok to make money -- even lots of it. But you better make sure your company is beyond reproach - rather than built on smoke and mirrors.

[@richardvervoorn6626]

What EXACTLY are the sanctions imposed on Boeing ?

[@thecuzzin]

They used a big scary word to convey that the NTSB is not going to be transparent going forward.

[@neilkurzman4907]

The NTSB is no longer going to give them information that is not public anymore

[@Luke_Go]

Why should anybody now trust Boeing?

[@mcbone5746]

You want to know how I know these executives are lying? Their lips are moving.

[@blairhoughton7918]

You didn't need the word these there.

[@mcbone5746]

@@blairhoughton7918 you make a great point

[@BeTrue2Yourself413]

After the 2 plane crashes (Lion Air & Ethiopia Airliner) when former CEO testified in front of congress to make safety their priority- they should have done that right then. So why should the public believe them now?

[@neilkurzman4907]

That was a different CEO. He got fired.

[@Roybwatchin]

I remember when Boeing's Renton facility was installing the "moving line" for 737's so they could be like Toyota Production Systems. They were/are so proud of that moving line. I have to wonder if the moving line isn't causing mechanics and inspectors to keep stuff moving that probably shouldn't be rushed. They do not want to stop that moving line less they have some explaining to do and likely get their butts chewed out. I'm going on the record to say that moving lines are fine for automotive, and computer cases, etc., but have no place whatsoever in aerospace production.

[@blairhoughton7918]

Doing this procedure the right way shouldn't have increased processing time by more than a couple of seconds. And the procedure was there and skipping it probably didn't speed the line up, but gave that one worker a few extra seconds to wonder why he felt like he missed something. It's the overall attitude of not double-checking in order to be fast that caused somebody to skip steps in the procedure and nobody to see that the steps were skipped before the plane was delivered.

[@neilkurzman4907]

The problem isn’t the moving line. The problem is the fuselages are arriving from spirit with issues. That’s one of the reasons that Boeing wants to buy spirit back.

[@renereyes4999]

If a robust and serious safety protocol were in place from the beginning, there wouldn't be anything to fix. Right? Greed is corrupting and rotting a once great company. 😢😢

[@JayTee2985]

“We have a strong foundation of caring deeply about safety.” 😂😂😂 I never laughed so hard.

[@BarnaliD]

I'm getting flashbacks of the Facebook executive who was questioned. She had every single talking point that cleared absolutely nothing and offset the company's recklessness with non-answers.

[@neilkurzman4907]

Congressional inquiries are a useless joke now. The congressman and senators use the opportunity to get soundbites for their reelection campaigns. Why should any company participate in it unnecessarily. Several of actually lost their jobs because of accusations of congressman. Which means people are less likely to say anything useful

[@martinmdl6879]

As a Quality Engineer who worked on the 787, etc; why not a word about "Risk Management" or "Risk Mitigation"? Nothing about following existing procedures that are proven to work. Boeing has been using bolts to hold their planes together for 100 years. Why is it suddenly now somebody "forgot" to install the bolts to hold the plug door on the 737 Max 9? START FOLLOWING EXISTING PROCEDURES.

[@blairhoughton7918]

This is a 3-minute self-promotional piece for an infotainment show. You'll have to read the actual FAA report to see those words.

[@pindapoy1596]

@martinmdl6879 How is it possible that Quality Control Procedures for construction of nuclear plants are being followed (proof: no incident traced back to field defective work) while a job that is concentrated in a few individual plants cannot be followed and implemented quality wise?.

[@1Grr8Guy]

Procedures only cover foreseen scenarios. When they need to get the door plug out of the way to fix the door seal and rivets issues from Spirit AeroSystems, somebody figured that you only need to swing the door plug out to work on the problem. Therefore, you don't need to remove the door plug, so you don't need to write up a REMOVAL procedure. Now, after the fact, Boeing learned the reason why the closing of the door plug escaped quality control.

[@pindapoy1596]

@@1Grr8Guysomebody figured that you only need to swing the door plug out to work on the problem. And when the problem became known the very first time it occurred, it should have been looked at closely and a procedure established for avoiding failures due to the shortcut.

[@neilkurzman4907]

Then you definitely need to read up on what happened here because you made a guess that’s wrong. You didn’t look at the root cause. The door was only removed to do the rework on the rivets. So there be no paperwork to do anything to the door. It was supposed to be installed already. After the fuselage was repaired, it was sent outside to wait further assembly. A crew went in to make sure the fuselage was sealed to keep the weather out to this end. They put the door on, but they didn’t bolt it in place because that wasn’t their job. Since there was no paperwork generated when the door was removed, there was no paperwork to put it back on, inspected, and close it out with the aircraft. Because it was a non-standard repair there was no paperwork to properly cover it so yes, they did follow the paperwork. And didn’t do work that wasn’t required.

[@Copenboro]

I wouldnt trust Boeing to fly my turds to the next town safely, let alone my family on vacation lol

[@caseypenk]

Boeing management forced quotas on the workers and is responsible for the rushed production. They determined the rate that planes needed to be made and imposed that on their workers.

[@Michael-kz3km]

Your not helping my stock price increase i can't afford to lose 100k

[@BG1975sh]

Looks like that is General Motors faulty ignition switch case

[@neilkurzman4907]

No, the ignition switch had a design issue. This was a process issue.

[@ollie599]

What a shame not only for Boeing but for USA manufacturing. Loosing the edge over Japan and Germany

[@aliceyingshan2725]

I couldn't find any non-Boeing planes going from Tokyo to Osaka when searching via Google in America.

[@blairhoughton7918]

Neither of those countries has a major passenger aircraft manufacturer. Are you still living in WW2?

[@pindapoy1596]

@ollie599 Loosing the edge... The edge has been lost for a long time. But as long as we can produce TV series and various apps we are still ahead. And when it comes to sophisticated arms, maybe the Russians should be selling to the Pentagon.

[@nfuryboss]

@@pindapoy1596 The Chinese C919 is going to make an entry. Watch out!

[@sraclinic]

Good to see the pantsuit ladies pour on the BS. Problem solved.

[@martingonzalez9399]

I noticed she forgot to mention that mechanics working on a particular part of the aircraft get a bunch of crap if they notice something on a part of the airplane they are not working on or are responsible for, just like some of the airlines. Please, Boeing, stop the BS !

[@duck853]

"Boeing's reputation is on the line.." Cute. That reputation has long since sailed and has been gone for at least a decade.

[@shawnedwards5369]

Yeah, she was regurgitating the standard, sterilized corporate line. 20 years in the corporate world and I have no idea anymore how many times I've heard things explained her way.

[@alexc5449]

Boeing will blame paper before they blame themselves.

[@neilkurzman4907]

So what you’re saying is they should ignore what actually cause the specific problem. Because in no way, could that help their safety?

[@blairhoughton7918]

Anyone else see the irony of this reporter inserting himself into the story histrionically demanding more information when Boeing is being punished for giving reporters too much information?

[@hewhohasnoidentity4377]

Everyone has a role. The reporter needs to ask for new details. Boeing needs to say that they are under an NTSB gag order until the docket is made public. Boeing knows the rules. They are just trying to create the overwhelming image that they are handling that ngs and the crisis is in the past. They are worried only about share prices.

[@dougclem7711]

Can we give ourselves a big bonus since we are sorry that our planes are killing people?

[@seana806]

What happens when you prioritize quantity vs top notch quality. Even when you as a employee try to do your job right, always get threatened with termination. This needs to stop, if this continues, companies will end up folding up like a tent, won’t have anyone to blame but themselves.

[@Nverdis]

The minute everyone had a camera in their pocket was the time where we started realizing that large corporations are that large cause they loved money more than HUMAN LIFE

[@Anurania]

When companies have a string of incidents and then swear they take safety very seriously and it's their most important priority, it makes me more nervous that this is the best they could do. It would be more reassuring if they just admitted they couldn't care less about safety but they will start taking it seriously from now on.

[@tetchuma]

Bean counters ruin the best company reputations…

[@peterphan3524]

It's really scary to fly now a day. You want to fly but don't know if you going to make it to your intended destination. Boeing will be out of business soon if they continue their neglect responsibilities.

[@SanseriIIDX]

Says one thing… but her eyes say another.

[@juangarcia-gv2jy]

To this day no one even knows who worked on that door plug before the January 5, 2024 Alaska Airlines incident. So what kind of investigation is this?

[@neilkurzman4907]

You’re missing the entire point. The answer was nobody that’s why there was no bolts in it because nobody did it. It turns out the door was put on by a crew whose job it was to make sure the plane was weatherproof before it was brought outside to the next stage of assembly. So nobody put the bolts on because there was no paperwork to say it needed to be done. And it appears everybody who looked at it assumed that there was paperwork and it would be done by somebody at some point, but you can’t put parts on a plane without paperwork so they couldn’t do it.

[@thebeddoctor4273]

Cool so we can fly on boings again in 10 years

[@omaromerika4291]

People need to understand that, airlines have to be held accountable as well

[@ww32]

Not when they receive a plane that they are told is built to a certain spec, and they aren’t told that they might have a problem with certain parts of the plane. Because of the way the plug was supposed to be installed there shouldn’t have ever been a reason to service it, certainly not that early into the planes life span.

[@neilkurzman4907]

@@ww32 They knew the plane had an air leak and they didn’t ground it to determine where it was. So there are certainly going to be on the paying end of the lawsuit.

[@ronaldgamber1181]

That's an interesting question! If Taylor Swift were to write an endorsement song for President Biden and VP Harris, it might sound something like: Verse 1 (inspired by "Love Story"): "In a world full of division and strife They stood up for hope, for justice, and for life Joe and Kamala, a team of grace Fighting for our future, leaving no one in the shade" Chorus (inspired by "Shake It Off"): "Get ready for a brighter day With Biden and Harris leading the way We'll shake off the hate, we'll shake off the pain And rise up together, like the sun after the rain" Verse 2 (inspired by "Bad Blood"): "They stood up to the bullies, to the ones who sought to divide With courage and compassion, they fought for what's right For equality, for freedom, and for our rights They stood strong, like a rock, shining so bright" Chorus (inspired by "Shake It Off"): "Get ready for a brighter day With Biden and Harris leading the way We'll shake off the hate, we'll shake off the pain And rise up together, like the sun after the rain" Of course, this is just a fictional creation, but it might give you an idea of what a Taylor Swift endorsement song for President Biden and VP Harris could sound like!

[@calvinnickel9995]

Sir… this is a Wendy’s.

[@Graupella]

I’m flying from Frankfurt with Lufthansa/Discover to Orlando when I’d rather fly another airline and route. Why? Airbus all the way is why!

[@SusiesRepeat]

Airbus over Boeing any day.

[@blairhoughton7918]

​@@SusiesRepeatI remember the day that Airbus literally flew an airplane into the ground because someone got a minus sign wrong in the software...

[@Mrcharles.]

Airbus is the better choice whenever I go on a flight. That’s all I’m gunna say.

[@notsofast67]

So NOW they care. Before they only cared if it increased production and cash flow. But don't worry, as soon as the Feds leave they will return to their motto, "Don't worry about a crash, worry about our cash".

[@joedance14]

Boeing did once have a strong system for managing work and quality. When Boeing acquired McDonnell Douglas, as part of the deal, one of the McDonnell Douglas executives was given a senior executive position at Boeing, with the mission to make Boeing more profitable. The corporate focus shifted away from engineering, quality and excellence, to finance, fighting labor, screwing workers and cutting costs. Like many others, a once great company lost its way, selling its soul for short term gains.

[@user-xt5pw2nj1l]

Mind blowing 🤯

[@TiggerLyOne]

I was and still am a fan of Boeing and willing to fly on any of its planes, even the maxes! However, the fact Boeing executives refuse to admit fault or acknowledge how they now have questionable quality control due to their "value engineerings" really make my gut sick! Greedy xxxxxxx!😡

[@applec.397]

Not technical managers!

[@Jdalio5]

This is what happens when you allow accountants to design airplanes.

[@neilkurzman4907]

You mean this is what happens when you allow accountants to build airplanes. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the design.

[@maestrovso]

Boeing current strategy is to march out a few female spokements telling us how seriously they take safety and quality control. Calhoun was supposed to right the company after the two Max fatal crashes and the fallout aftermath. Yet he kept up the deception and status quote. He didn't immediately step down but will do so at the end of the year as he thought all these will blow through and he can maximize his golden parachute as well as his stock options.

[@gurujpf66]

Dudes with suits pushing for profits, engineers pushing for safety, I imagine the suits are now like, yes yes safety safety, we are all about safety 🙄 morons, they drove company’s stock to the ground

[@davidgardner1067]

Great! But what about all those Boeing planes that were delivered before the crackdown? Who has looked over those planes for shoddy work?

[@bobbaran4589]

Doesn't boeing have people stuck on the space station because of their capsule?

[@kiraasuka9943]

What’s the sanction? Also ntsb is a consulting body for other gov agencies like faa/fbi but she doesn’t have enforcement power so I’m very confused

[@thengine7]

We need a whistle blower to come forward.. oh wait

[@CamLenZ-no1vl]

You guys had decades to fix it

[@Tutwotuesday]

Safety is top priority until the money starts to drain and then we back to square one again profit over safety

[@briangriffin8106]

Anyone from the media going to investigate the murdered whistle-blower who clearly didn't commit suicide?

[@neilkurzman4907]

Yes, Fox News is going to investigate immediately. They’re going to tell you whatever you want to hear so watch them. Journalist can look into a matter, but they have limited powers of investigation. But since you’ve already determined that they were both murdered by Boeing then there’s absolutely no reason to do an investigation. You already have the answer you want.

[@yooo5980]

You are changing yeah heard that many times before….what about what you have done!!!!!

[@Larryjo44]

Here you go Elon, your next purchase.

[@snakebite7299]

So the Amtrak train it is

[@blairhoughton7918]

The people who build those are even sloppier than these guys. But for a while it's going to be the better choice.

[@bobbaran4589]

😂

[@phil4977]

Just words from Boeing. I only fly airbus now

[@pdk3065]

Boeing is like USA,LIEland😂

[@LanceThompsonKssooner]

Josh Dean reported that Spirit Aerosystems was not performing proper final shake inspections. Just saying 🤷🏻 More DEI will not solve this.

[@calvinnickel9995]

Doesn’t matter. Boeing QA should be able to capture ALL deficiencies from suppliers.

[@blairhoughton7918]

More fascist whining will only make it worse.

[@LanceThompsonKssooner]

@blairhoughton7918 What does fascism have to do with calling out corrupted power? Think you have it backward or do not understand the meaning of the words you are using. So the unempowered are being fascist? Please explain how that is possible 😳

[@LanceThompsonKssooner]

@calvinnickel9995 You obviously do not work aircraft. Boeing cannot be expected to find defects in any installation that is already bought off or is covered up. It's called source inspection. Spirit is responsible for what they deliver, and they are not performing proper final shakes before it leaves the plant.

[@blairhoughton7918]

@@LanceThompsonKssooner non sequitur. We see you, fascist.

[@jermainerowe9541]

Boeing is so pathetic just imagine all the times I’ve traveled in their planes and put my life in their hands. Thank you God I’m still here today.

[@abc123fhdi]

same corporate culture when it comes to strarliner, just get it up there with butch and sonny never mind if it's safe.

[@wishmaker]

This would make a nice history channel feature for megabrands that built america, where Some inventor right now invented a (proper and safer) flying car to make boeing out of business.

[@wyaldkingdom]

“We must continually improve.” Nice buzzword usage. 😂 Maybe it’s the spirit of continuous improvement that things went wrong to begin with. When you get in your car, you put your seatbelt on. There’s nothing to improve. Just do the action. Stop reinventing the wheel and adhere to your tried and true process.

[@petewilcox3354]

Boeing needs to get shut down.

[@blairhoughton7918]

Nah. But some overdressed executives could do with jail time.

[@stoso9864]

Nice words until the next Boeing drops out of the sky

[@es9438]

give it a few months, then back to business as usual. Same leadership being used to correct decades old problems.

[@pindapoy1596]

@es9438 Interesting comment. There is also a comment attributed to Einstein: "You cannot correct problems with the people that created them".

[@MekowaniteEmbyale]

Change to amaric

[@ICEMAN77gaming]

LIERS CAUGHT IN THE ACT

[@gabbytubalemye8038]

Astronauts are stuck in space....

[@htodd4014]

The news is not real anymore

[@blairhoughton7918]

For basically stupid reasons too...

[@thomask4836]

Minions paid to deliver GREAT lip service!

[@JovenAlbarida]

If you value your life when you travel, you people much preferred "very safe and secure" airplane, not diversity,

[@TurtleAir]

Just a show…

[@dannyyang2778]

Stop showing ads for the ugliest car ever made…. another kia…

[@dean7378]

What ads?

[@BobDobbs681]

The NTSB career employees are excellent but the board itself is made up of political appointees. I wonder if politics entered into this decision.

[@mopthermopther]

I love Boeing. They are sooo funny

[@Cush230]

We need Airbus

[@user.asleep]

Gimme airbus any day. I don't wanna get boinged to the ground

[@garnetrose6162]

Take them off the stock market because that’s all they care about

[@wayne387]

Maybe if you hire more purple hair and metal face things will get better? We have a strong foundation of safety but bigger foundation for money

[@timothyzhuk2847]

I’m glad the Biden administration is doing something about it

[@Slips85]

CEO needs to be fired and replaced. Then have a third party safety inspector who is paid for by Boeing but not managed so the final inspections of all planes built.

[@mikeybhoutex]

CEO's stepping down end of 2024, so your wish is granted in a way. The third party safety inspector(s) (multiples) need to be paid for by the FAA, and have zero payroll that Boeing touches. Because the Boeing paid safety instructors (third party or not) is what got them into this mess, partly... and THAT by both FAA and government oversight relaxing of rules/regulations... directly because Boeing asked for that and it was granted. Boeing needs to not be in the equation of safety, the government does, as it was before.

[@neilkurzman4907]

So what you’re saying is you should just go on a rampage without understanding what the failure was. Because that always works. Another inspector wouldn’t have helped there was no paperwork to inspect. And no, someone doesn’t just wander around the fuselage looking at things.

[@dahnoied6893]

Why aren't the mysterious deaths of Boeing whistleblowers part of this, and every, report?

[@neilkurzman4907]

Because you’ve already decided that this conspiracy theory. But journalist can’t find anything. It’s not their job to speculate that’s the difference between a journalist and a pundit.

[@dahnoied6893]

@@neilkurzman4907 Where did you get the info that "journalist can't find anything"? I'd like to see that. As to speculating, including that fact isn't speculation it should keep that out in the light of day.

[@hclchgm]

Boeing is in the trash can.

[@blairhoughton7918]

You think they can hit the trash can from there?

[@mattdykes5166]

DEI. Gonna trash everything.

[@benman540]

Wait, so now they're in trouble for being too transparent? Lol

[@electrolytics]

Why would the govt care if Boeing is being transparent?

[@fatteebaddee]

Because their transparency will trick another buyer of their garbage aircraft. This is a rare instance of gov working for the people

[@someoneelse9271]

Who do you think builds the F-15, the KC-46, F-18 etc…?

[@calvinnickel9995]

Why would you care if you were making a report and someone was cherry picking details to skew the narrative before you released it?

[@electrolytics]

@@calvinnickel9995 I wouldn't care. I'm making a report not a narrative. Did Boeing answer the reporters questions truthfully?

[@blairhoughton7918]

Because Boeing could be manipulating witnesses who haven't been deposed yet.

[@jorgesoto2020]

Boeing bloeign blah blah blah... and blah blah blah ...

[@LebronCCP]

i don't care about safety. all i want to know if there's enough women and minorities in upper management.

[@MelindaDillon-mc2mi]

I'm survivor Jonetown 29btimes stabbed by Jim Jones Angelina Jolie Steven ghodi

[@erikh9991]

Smoking too much weed!!

[@bobbaran4589]

The results of diversity and inclusion hiring over experience.

[@csmlouis]

There is not enough war to keep the profit like it was still 2005. So, corners have to be cut.

[@blairhoughton7918]

There's plenty of profit. They're back-ordered for a decade. They're just so greedy they don't mind being slack on safety processes to get more, and they're so dumb they don't realize that's the opposite of increasing profit.

[@neilkurzman4907]

When you tried to come up with something intelligent, the only thing you could do is come up with there’s not enough war? Are you not aware of national events? There’s a major one going on in Ukraine and Israel. They literally can’t make weapons fast enough.

[@csmlouis]

​@@neilkurzman4907 Wow, are you seriously comparing our war in Afghanistan and Iraq COMBINED vs the little trickle that we are sending over to Ukraine? Boeing is barely sending anything recent to Israel before and after 10/7/23.

[@csmlouis]

@@blairhoughton7918 Revenue maybe plenty... but commercial airplane has the tiniest profit margin. Both Boeing's Commercial and Defense sectors have been operating at a loss since 2021 and their only profit generator is Servicing and Contracting. If the CEO is especially ruthless, they can cut the cost of commercial assembly AND cheapen out on their services/parts/maintenance plan.

[@dougclem7711]

IT WASN'T A BREAKDOWN, IT WAS DELIBERATELY OMITTED TO SAVE TIME AND TIME IS MONEY.

[@blairhoughton7918]

I don't think it was deliberate. The procedure existed to check it. The people just forgot to. And the people who were supposed to check that the check was done also forgot. The attitude and tempo being set by management certainly contributed to that. Though it is possible that somebody decided to make it policy only to do checking at random instead of making sure that every box was checked. Then there would be an element of deliberate failure.

[@neilkurzman4907]

So someone deliberately didn’t put the proper paperwork into the system, knowing that the aircraft would be moved outside and someone would put the door back on, but not secure. A very, very complicated conspiracy.

[@unclejoe8279]

Maybe they will need a bailout.

[@bobbaran4589]

I'm sure the fed money machines are ready to go.

[@keepaway7896]

More quality control Personnel eats into the profit margin

[@blairhoughton7918]

Not as much as doors blowing off of planes does.

[@77space-vt8wi]

This is pathetic. Everyone knows Boeing is Americans (U.S. Govt) plane making facility. The NTSB is also the U.S. Govt, as is the FAA. The NTSB is sanctioning Boeing is a joke. Just remind the guys on the fuslauge production line that its a good idea to put the four retention bolts in when they install or re-install the darn doors.

[@blairhoughton7918]

Yeah you have that backwards. It's the corporations that manipulate the FAA not the other way around. The FAA needs real power, and not a reliance on corporate inspections.

[@JPaul60]

Well, telling the public the truth is strictly verboten by alphabet agencies. The last thing the government wants the public to have is the truth.

[@calvinnickel9995]

lol So you’d rather believe that it was just Spirit Aerosystems not doing a check and not Boeing’s QA that failed to catch it not only on this one…. but numerous others all in the name of profit.

[@blairhoughton7918]

A half-done investigation being leaked by the perp isn't what you'd call a reliable source of truth. More like an attempt at manipulation of public opinion to interfere with the investigation and nullify all future juries.

[@prilep5]

Door was serviced without proper common sense

[@hymanbjorn6768]

Why are w0men speaking for Boeing? Guess I'm old fashioned!

[@eyelovecolorado2195]

DEI. This would not happened if you hire qualified personnel.