BoJack Horseman - BoJack tells Princess Carolyn that he loves her (Season 3 Episode 9)

From "Best Thing That Ever Happened" one of the most underrated episodes imo, this scene is one of my favorites from the whole show.

[@svlagonda7417]

PC is the just the loveliest most likeable yet not boring character in the whole show.

[@almamaimonderazon5794]

Which charecter do you find boring? I personally love them all

[@That90sGirl310]

@@almamaimonderazon5794 I couldn’t stand watching mr peanut butter….personally…

[@almamaimonderazon5794]

@@That90sGirl310 Yeah, I get that. Even though I liked the way his character developed at the end and I think the phone call with Diane at season 6 really showed how much he has grown

[@tyqwe45qe]

@@That90sGirl310 mr peanut butter is my favorite characther. just a great dude

[@OliverOils]

​@@That90sGirl310 I don't like him either but he's not boring although I will say I didn't really like the Mr PeanutButter mayor arc

[@tabifiedler6944]

This hits so different after Xerox of a Xerox, where BoJack says Sarah Lynn was the only girl he ever loved.

[@somnodaur8064]

You mean it hurts different

[@joseaca1010]

Dammit bojack

[@jumpman8476]

Bojack was nervous and he obviously didn't take it seriously, not least because after the PC ended him, he was left without any guidance. She understood this and they later got along in the final episode

[@pinkfreak120]

You know he also said that Sarah lynn was like a daughter to him. When he said that she was different than the other girls, I think he met that it was kinda a fathers love, which is fucked in its own right and I'm so glad he never became a father.

[@emmanuelucrosacosta1845]

@@pinkfreak120 bojack proceed to fuck sarah lynn

[@jgeybp]

That PC smile 2:03 kills me everytime.

[@juliannesiguan8742]

It makes me cry every single time.

[@hambonefakenamington69]

it does

[@itriggerpeople4433]

Best girl

[@gachaguy4528]

TA DAAH!!

[@TheAnnaBanana101]

It’s really sad after all this he still continues to fire Princess Carolyn. As his agent. And how earlier he said Princess Carolyn only makes him feel like a bad person despite her naming reasons why he is a good person. Their friendship has its ups and downs but I really believe Bojack realizes in the finale how much Princess Carolyn means to him. She wasn’t going to cut him out completely like Diana because she did want to still have Bojack in her life. PC is one of my favorites

[@CallMePoyo]

I think he still fires princess Carolyn because like he said she makes him feel bad because I think when he looks at her he feels like he wastes her and cant ever actually be good to her without being manipulative

[@gorilla-grip-pussy-support7976]

She DOES cut him out of her personal life though; she only keeps contact for a business relationship. She only invited him to her business wedding and not her personal one.

[@Soul-the-Mysterious]

@@gorilla-grip-pussy-support7976 Yeah I noticed that too. like she had his back but that interview that exposed him gave her second thoughts.

[@Gabe-1997]

@@Soul-the-Mysterious I think it's more that PC realized that she needed healthier and stronger boundaries with Bojack. PC still has Bojack's back but won't put herself in harm's way or get dragged down with him anymore

[@gota7738]

It might be hypocritical but he was right to fire her after she crossed the line and screwed him over to satisfy her own comptetition with Gekko-Rabitowitz and cost him his chances of reconciling with Kelsey. It's probably one of the few healthy choices he makes in the series. and it reflects PC's own setting of boundaries later on.

[@56ur4]

Keep Driving Keep Driving Girl don't turn that car around Break your pattern of needing to fix other people Just keep on driving awaaaay Don't go back to the restaurant Princess Carolyn Just keep on driving awaaaay

[@mina6310]

"god damnit"

[@stanmoi6361]

"Who do they write these songs for 🙄"

[@andrewgarfield9898]

Sometimes it feels like the song knows your exact situation

[@ItzBoppe]

[This is gonna be a bit spoiler-y for anyone who hasn't seen the last season] man this shit really hits hard when you watch the interview that Bojack did n he says that he never loved any of the girls that he's been with compared to sarah lynn

[@leafyeevee5939]

I know, that's all I could think of through the whole clip. The look on her face after he said it too, ouch.

[@unviewerrandom4792]

not the same love guy , more like a mother to love

[@Buggaton]

You can love someone without it being purely romantic.

[@y.9645]

@@Buggaton yeah but considering he still let her to die really says a lot about his so called love.

[@falconeshield]

​@@unviewerrandom4792 A mommy to f*** and make him less sadn😢

[@hauntedmushroomsasmr7716]

“I do love you by the way…as much as I’m capable of loving anyone….which is never enough.” I feel like that is the quote that sums up all of Bojack’s relationships with anyone. He loves them, but just as much as he needs to.

[@falconeshield]

He never loved them. He valued liking someone more important than love.

[@amityisprecious1334]

The fact that PC mentioned her younger years, which would be later explained waaaaaaaaay later at season 5 and 6 with the Amelia Earhart episode, really shows the genius planning and writting the showrunners and writters are

[@omohaterfromhell7894]

For me, she is the best. Strong, confident, but not all-powerful with her wounds and shortcomings. Her development as a mother, her marriage, her career - I'm happy with everything that happened in her life.

[@janberkemeier7406]

"Princess Carolyn always lands on her feet." The animal-themed jokes in Bojack Horseman are/were truly something

[@jgeybp]

I forgot about this episode. So glad I'm rewatching it again. You guys should too. Trust me you missed a couple of sweet and sad moments like this atleast one of them.

[@Daria-Morgendorffer]

I watched them all a second time when I forced my friend to lol There's also some forshadowing and background jokes I missed the first time, I'll probably watch it a third time in the future xD

[@yagirl2124]

this scene can make you depressed when you look back and realize how shitty bojack REALLY treated pc… we all know how pc is- she’s a reliable, compulsively helpful, efficient businesswoman. as she put it, she “messed up once in 23 years”, and part of what hollywood is is ultra “professionalism” in which opportunities come and fade extremely quickly- but this is *bojack* we’re talking about… bojack: the man who flaked on secretariat (his apparent “dream” job) because he was in new mexico living a sitcom life. bojack: the man who got his friends high off their asses so they could write a nonsense biography about him as if diane didn’t already do it for him. bojack: the man who sabotaged todd’s rock opera because he was too scared of facing his own loneliness. and nearly each time- pc there was always fucking there to cover for his ass. constantly picking herself up and picking bojack up (sometimes LITERALLY), forcing herself to be “the professional one” for YEARS because bojack is too selfish and destructive to figure out how to handle himself in all areas of life, INCLUDING work… and not only that- but because pc LOVED him and most likely saw the goodness and opportunity in him, even when bojack acted out. now PC messes things up ONCE, and bojack DROPS HER, claiming to want “professionalism”… is he fucking serious? he’s been using princess carolyn for years, both as an AGENT to find excuse after excuse for him, AND as someone who he consistently slept with, and now he had the fucking NERVE to fire her because he’s apparently “a professional”… makes me sick. i wish PC had realized sooner than season 6 what a piece of shit bojack was. i wish she looked past her love for him sooner instead of constantly trying to save his sorry ass rather than towards the end of season 6. she deserved to totally cut him out of her life forever WAY before the last season. honestly, fuck bojack for taking advantage of her the way he did.

[@bijoukaiba]

Reading this kinda makes me wish PC had gotten the F-bomb in season 3 instead of Todd.

[@leviismyoppa967]

BoJack fired her because she was codependent on him. He didn't want PC, one of the women he has tried to care for genuinely, get dragged with him. I think you will find out about this in the original wiki page.

[@leviismyoppa967]

BoJack is an asshole. This is just one of his less shittier moments.

[@suki938]

This essay is longer then my life

[@buubaku]

Bro just say you wanna fuck PC

[@vlad-igor]

PC is the best! She deserves so much more!

[@JayJay-nc7pr]

I love PC, she’s wonderful and I’m so glad that at the end of the show she still wants Bojack to be her friend even if there are rules and strict boundaries now, she still cares for him from afar

[@rezthemediaruler3768]

She looks so much more beautiful when she smiles.

[@monsieurbacteria6191]

She’s literally a cat

[@avaspence9168]

@@monsieurbacteria6191 PLEASEEE HAKGSJSJEJF THIS MADE ME LAUGH SO HARD

[@Defnot.anthonyy]

FURRY

[@CATDHD]

@@monsieurbacteria6191 literally, she is a cat character). Even worse

[@somnodaur8064]

She’s a cat and honestly what does Princess Carolyn have to smile about

[@alexvaughan1013]

The tomato making a tomato sandwich analogy becomes more horrifying when you realise this is a world where animals serve their own kind as food e.g. the cow waitress bringing somebody a steak, a family of chickens running a chicken farm. Guess a tomato cutting up its own kind for food is no different from that.

[@assyrianprincess3]

Aw man, my ex said those exact words to me 😭

[@assyrianprincess3]

@Froggy Noddy nope (its for the best tho)

[@kaiserxblue]

which words exactly ? the "TA-DA!" or the "I do love you"?

[@funnyman8161]

I can't believe you and your ex completely recreated thid scene before it even existed. Props to you

[@assyrianprincess3]

@@kaiserxblue lol the ily

[@assyrianprincess3]

@@funnyman8161 lol thanks?

[@infinitymixtapes9562]

"Sarah Lynn wasn't like those other girls. I LOVED Sarah Lynn" So he basically lied here, ouch

[@Kuaheak2018]

I think it's a little more likely that the sarah Lynn thing was a lie. He said that when he was clearly not thinking and under duress.

[@thenewadventuresofhenry6998]

Braxby was right, he doesn't care.

[@thenewadventuresofhenry6998]

@@Kuaheak2018 He just keeps lying.

[@Tijopi11]

It's weird to be that people think Bojack was serious about only loving Sarah Lynn. He was panicking in the interview and made an exaggerated claim in an attempt to save himself. He fumbled through most of the interview, including admitting to other atrocities and throwing friends under the bus while realizing he was in serious legal trouble at that point. I'm sure PC was fully aware that it was a panicked statement, but hearing it still hurt. Especially in that moment when she tried so hard to protect him, and he said that while she's right there. Bojack doesn't bother acknowledging he said that line because he knew it was fully exaggerated while trying to articulate that his relationship with Sarah Lynn was genuine, but different from the other girls.

[@christopherscotts5797]

I think we know enough about Bojack to know he is not a master manipulator 24/7, and even when he tries to manipulate things he is usually pretty bad or unlucky at it. Bojack it's a damaged, selfish, impulsive, inmature guy at all times. Not an evil calculating genius. I think it's way more likely that here, in a moment of peace and reflection after he and PC vented everything they think about each other, he said what he really felt. He did love her as much as he could. He would gain almost nothing from lying to PC at this moment. And he it's not smart enough to think how this could benefit him in the long run It's a bigger moment of sincerity than being cornered on an interview where he was planning to portray himself as a better, even heroic man in order to gain fame. He got pretty desperate and just tried to salvage whatever was left of his reputation

[@TheClassyArchitect]

Red dye, texture, and bean paste. All a chef could ever need.

[@siberianhusky4524]

Princess Carolyn is much more then her job and I wish she could see that.

[@oz_jones]

I mean she has Ruthie now. I think sje does.

[@ezrastrife]

"Just cause you're good at something doesn't mean you have to. I'm good at driving sober but I don't relish the opportunity." - Bojack H. Welp, sometimes he makes sense

[@tahraethestoryteller6079]

“Who threw my cocaine in the champagne fountain?” Why is no talking about this gem of a line?

[@falconeshield]

Coming from 2023 it's amazing it didn't happen in Succession.

[@thenewadventuresofhenry6998]

"Really? I don't remember that." Bojack says that a lot.

[@girlbossfemcel7813]

well hes an alcoholic

[@oz_jones]

Shocker

[@bismuth7398]

I really do think Bojack was being earnest here. Especially when he says "...as much as I'm capable of loving anyone, which is never enough." I seriously doubt he was thinking of Princess Carolyn during that infamous moment in the Season Six interview. He obviously saw Sarah Lynn as a surrogate daughter, not a love interest. It doesn't make anything he said or did okay. But I really do think that Bojack loved Princess Carolyn. They really do care about each other, in their own weird, mutually dysfunctional way.

[@thesnowmiser6728]

Yeah, it's kind of crazy how many people are misinterpreting his quote about loving her

[@Nico_2202]

@@thesnowmiser6728I think while it’s obviously somewhat manipulative, it’s also what Bojack himself believes, in the moment, at least.

[@The_amazing_dust]

One of the best scenes in the show

[@justanobadi6655]

No one mentioning "I'm good at driving sober but I don't relish the opportunity"

[@falconeshield]

Becusse it's a lie

[@mikebipping6166]

that smile, it just hits different. edit: (sometimes you just have to come back and watch this to forget all the f*cked up parts of Bojack's life. such a wholesome moment)

[@Im_alivexx]

Sad how PC’s mom lied to her about she came from a rich family and how her necklace was actually golden.

[@nyabis8044]

She didn’t lie about being rich. She was the maid of a rich family. Which is true.

[@nkbujvytcygvujno6006]

Technically, she said they were the _descendants_ of a rich family- or at least a prosperous one. And that they became poor after coming to America, and had to sell off all their heirlooms except the necklace. The necklace being an old, valuable heirloom was a lie, but the rest of the story technically could have been true, there’s no way to prove it either way.

[@cutecatsara123]

*She's so damn cute!!*

[@valentinacrosera7874]

im obsessed with this episode man

[@Leah_2112]

It could be that he was truly honest to PC here, and lied about loving sarah lynn in the last season...

[@thenewadventuresofhenry6998]

He doesn't care...

[@ghostlymelody834]

Or it was a different type of love my guy

[@MsAlyssaB1]

Being a good tomato vs asking the tomato to ask the sandwich is actually a really good metaphor for my life struggles of being the best worker vs being asked to be manager, who knew I'd find that looking for Bojack Horsemen clips yeesh...

[@rolanslide8509]

I don't think he lied here, Xerox of a Xerox be damned. I think he did love her. It wasn't enough, and it wasn't a good kind of love, but it was there. I think Bojack is a person who hates himself deeply and doesn't think he has ever loved someone in a way that matters... except for Sarah. Because Bojack and Sarah Lynn were drowning together, and that connected them in a way I don't think he could with PC or anyone else.

[@oz_jones]

Just loving someone is never enough.

[@nkbujvytcygvujno6006]

@@oz_jones Exactly, you actually have to treat them right too. Love is wonderful and all, but it does nothing to soothe or fix a toxic relationship, not by itself, and people do need to stop acting like any relationship will automatically be okay as long as they love each other, because when it comes down to it, it’s your behavior towards them that matters. Off topic, but I do like to point that out.

[@falconeshield]

He said he loved her right after she said what she would be if she weren't an agent. To Bojack's mind, him not marrying her made him feel sorry cause apparently that's all what PC's good for. Joke's on him, not only she gets married but it's more than implied that her golden years are after she's no longer his glorified baby sitter.

[@iceluvndiva21]

I keep replaying this scene in my head with Ralph. Like princess caryolne invites him over for a date night dinner. he brings flowers and sees her cooking. he asks her about it & She tells him about how she learned. He is impressed by her journey and he tells her about his family. She learns about how his own parents were a certain kind of assholes. Though this Ralph starts to understand why Carolyn is such a fiercely independent person who feels the need to fix other people. In the end? He tells her that he knows she'd be an amazing mom

[@cmw184]

she sounds like tigers girlfriend from fivel goes west

[@Kaboomboo]

That's a pretty thick book on "How to Cook Hotdogs". How much can you really say about that?

[@jazzalterio692]

How is Bojack a self aware narcissist?

[@marlom7882]

I’ve been trying to figure that out for years now. You’d think someone who’s self aware you’d change themselves. Which I know breaking bad habits is very difficult but you’d think he’d be hyper aware of his actions

[@goldcherries]

@Deity Saturn It’s been made clear Bojack has a very weak will. When you don’t love yourself, it doesn’t matter how much you know something is bad for you, you will keep believing it’s not worth the pain and struggle to change, because your poor esteem will always tell you you are not worth anything anyway.

[@johnwayne8494]

Because his "self awareness" is itself a narcissistic coping strategy and he doesn't truly grasp his flaws in a tangible way.

[@Chaos_Pawn]

Who through my cocaine in the champagne fountain

[@theodoresherman5707]

I wish these two would've ended up together. I think Bojack getting better and staying sober and ending up with Princess Carolyn would've been a happy ending. But the world ain't full of happy endings. Bojack had to lose everything and everyone to truly change.

[@slowmoe1686]

I mean I think it would probably be a disaster like... Every other relationship Bojack has ever been in. But hey, its still a lot better idea than Bojack and Diane! I don't know why so many people ship that... I think Bojack is best off just being friends with all of these characters, honestly. I guess I feel saddest about him dumping that Owl from season 2, I guess. I feel like that one might have worked out. Who knows.

[@AngieGandalf6]

Bojack has to work on himself A LOT before dating anyone and risk hurting even more people. Not everyone is suited to have relationship all the time, there are moments in which you just gotta know yourself and be a better person before drowning people who love you with you. Work on yourself guys, think "Maybe now is not the time" and move on. Not every happy ending needs a relationship, and in Bojack's case, it would only feel like an "Aw, shit, here we go again"

[@Anhtique]

Poor take. Bojack would've abused her/taken advantage of her, like he has, time and time again

[@justyourlocalcommenter7492]

That would be a terrible ending. Not at all fair to her, and too perfect for Bojack. Princess Carolyn has always been the person(cat) Bojack runs to for comfort when something bad happens to him, and he treats her awfully afterwards. They have a toxic relationship. Them getting together in the end would show no growth for Princess Carolyn or him.

[@oz_jones]

Holy hell, no. Even more of a braindead take than Diane and Bojack.

[@usernew7437]

I like that after all the years she has been in the show business she is able to do practical activities that nobody is able to do😂😂😂

[@frempy4426]

The sequence of expressions at 2:01 are pretty much exactly how I feel when the guy I love expresses affection. He has hangups and can’t love me back the same way but I know he tries in his own way. I accept the situation and it’s nice when he reminds me that I’m important to him, but then I feel the discontent and doubt for a second too That being said my friend isn’t in an endless destructive downward spiral like Bojack lol. Though he also doesn’t remember anything lol

[@melodystandley4281]

Why do I feel like both of these characters

[@teapartypenguin1353]

1:14-1:50 hitting a little too close to home right now

[@TheTatermeister]

Me and my ex Kam are basically like BoJack and Carolynn. We love each other but know we can't be together romantically. We are wonderful friends but we just couldn't make the dating work.

[@jefry8393]

Poor John stamos

[@guilhermeteodosio40]

I remember the first time we've met you looked at me and said: "hey, it's good to see you again-" wait... we met before? 😂😂😂

[@Scuti99.]

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[@marrytouchstone9711]

Even though he said that he loved her, from the way he said it I feel like he knew it wasn't genuine. "As much as I'm capable of loving anyone" implies that he just 'loved' her physical and sexually if not just sexually. And the "I'm sorry" implied that he knew he was probably just using her so he wouldn't be alone. This is what makes Bojack such an interesting yet infuriating character: he's very aware when he's messing up/has messed up (unless he's drunk high or both) and he is capable of doing good things. And yet he insists on hurting himself and the people around him anyway.

[@roygato3797]

How is a horse banging a cat in this universe? How is a human banging a dog? Why are there no cross species abominations?? Nobody asks these questions, when they're right there for the fake outrage. Also, on a slightly different note: that risotto looks terrible.

[@catherinecao4810]

What happened the second time they met?

[@ryszakowy]

he was covered in caramel and passed out in fountain

[@zosiapsps]

she just started working for her previous boss and she met him when they were filming Horsin' Around (episode where Olivia messed up laundry or smth) and he told her that he was too tired of pretending to be nice all day so she can go

[@catherinecao4810]

@@zosiapsps it seems like the order and manner of their three meetings represents an aspect of their relationship and the importance. 1. PC’s overly extensive care of BJ to the point that he’s unaware of it. 2. BJ’s mistreatment of PC for his personal satisfaction 3. BJ and PC being “functional”

[@rpghero46]

kiss him

[@jinhunterslay1638]

What are they cooking here? Because if it’s pasta then it means I’ve been cooking my pasta wrong this whole time (I don’t stir continuously)

[@rubymaciashernandez9938]

They making risotto

[@jinhunterslay1638]

@@rubymaciashernandez9938 nice. Never tried risotto before (I use penne, farfelle, and linguini instead)

[@estebangutierrez160]

PC: The first time we met was when I was an intern and I had to deliver a script to your house. You were passed out in the yard covered in tapioca pudding, I hosed you down, dragged you inside and covered you with a blanket. Me: well did he wake up from passing out? Because unless you stayed at his house to actually give him the script without leaving, then you are also wrong because he never woke up to talk or see you.

[@falconeshield]

All I'm thinking is about the second meeting

[@estebangutierrez160]

@@falconeshield same

[@minimayhem1996]

It's actually p***** me off when I watched it for the first time. Don't tell somebody you love them when you know you f****** don't just a dream and you'd be like them like that's f*****, well, Jack's gonna have a f***** u* s***But trying to convince somebody he's in love with them when he clearly isn't. He's one of the worst things he's ever f****** done in my opinion.

[@minimayhem1996]

For the genuine, the thing he does love her to some level, she's the only woman that's gonna constantly like that's actually like stopped it for all the freedoms of multiple f****** times if he's capable of loving anybody probably Prince, she's the only one with a state around the world and I'll be able to love. I don't know how she does it. I don't know why the f*** y** sticks around, but. He's fucking lucky she does that's her damn sure

[@minimayhem1996]

The goofballs lucky not many paper would f****** stick around. After all with the f****** s***, he's done. Princess Carolyn's definitely a f****** very special lady to put up with his dumb f****** a** for this long

[@shai17altamiranoanco77]

Si

[@metroidjones122]

Wait. Is PC a lefty?

[@catherinecao4810]

Maybe she’s ambidextrous

[@ag4054]

He was really selfish for this one

[@ironwarriornlm]

99th

[@soulcollector969]

Bojack is an eyesore he is one of the reason's why men should deserve less

[@oz_jones]

Imagine bodyshaming in 2023

[@stuckonmute9227]

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