Boks versus Ireland is personal

Keo and Zels explain why the series against Ireland is must-win for the Boks, while Scott Gibbs provides the northern view.
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[@jj88jj88jj]

Kiwi fan here, love this podcast. Look forward to the chats during the RC. Good luck for the Irish

[@lithaqwase4499]

This podcast is the best thing to happen to Test rugby fans

[@pityfool23]

As an Irishman..LOVE THE PODCAST

[@SARugbymagcoza32-12]

A treat for you today... 55 Minutes 😍

[@ItsMeMooky]

What a way to start the weekend🔥

[@albertvanlingen7590]

9. Cobus 10. Sacha 11. Kolbe 12. DDA 13. Jessie 14. Am 15. Willie with Pollard on the bench.... There's your horses for courses😅....not going to be about flashy rugby but forcing a win. 🇿🇦💪🏼 28-22 for the Boks...

[@mrobo4699]

Yeeeeeeeow 🎉🎉🎉

[@W0nderer]

@@albertvanlingen7590 Am at 14?! We have wings for days. The Boks will never start Sasha at 10.

[@johankotze727]

​@@W0ndererNever is a very long time.

[@johankotze727]

I speak for all SA rugby fans when i say we need this to be a weekly thing. There's always something to talk about.

[@101MIGHTYJOE]

Irish fan here. First time coming across podcast. Ire biggest issue is lack of squad depth at loosehead and 9 as well as having an inexperienced but exciting 10. Ire also lacks top end speed on the wings so we struggle to score off first phase. SA can get multiple injuries and have amazing replacements (aside from 10) and have wicked pace and power

[@yusoffarahman]

Clearly one of my favourite podcast. Fan from Malaysia and of coz Bok my favourite team.

[@ivandeetlefs]

Love listening to Scott Gibbs. Speaks with great knowledge and insight. Drops F-bomb when necessary.

[@freed000]

If ya wanna fall asleep - he's your guy

[@user-lw2ng1jb1m]

As a South African, I believe when we respect a team, we show respect. When we REALLY respect a team, we show them disrespect!

[@SMacCuUladh]

interesting

[@user-lw2ng1jb1m]

@@SMacCuUladh can't seem to keep ourselves away from the confrontation - point being, we're so amped to measure up against such a worthy opponent

[@graceodohertyphotography9964]

@@user-lw2ng1jb1m AHH the crazy comments are making more sense now, thanks for that cultural lesson!

[@JeffreyThomas-th2ps]

This is rugby intelligence at its best I have really missed this 😊😊😊

[@etienne_oosthuizen]

This has to be the best rugby banter/podcast available!

[@CC-om8ze]

I love these guys. If I had to pick between them or morning coffee, I’d pick their podcast 😂 Thanks guys!

[@georgeengelbrecht1310]

Dropping Siya would have been worse than leaving Pollard out of our World Cup Squad. Keo for president! 🇿🇦

[@manAfrica]

Facts, it would've also stirred up some unnecessary political noise

[@VioletTaylor173]

​@@manAfricanah. Dita stepped away from captaincy after the world cup.

[@wynandvanzyl8798]

IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT YOU TWO ARE BACK ON LINE 🗯️‼️

[@elvisnomzaza9500]

This podcast is pure gold

[@duanegreen9569]

Thanks Tim. In rainy Windermere. As a Saffa. Great to see real footage of home. You have a humble rugby brain. Respect

[@brendopethewoat947]

Handre is our greatest ever flyhalf and has a claim to being one of the greatest flyhalves of all time.

[@matthewalexander7574]

Best fly half ever. Right up there with Dan Carter

[@brendopethewoat947]

@@matthewalexander7574 agree, in my humble opinion Pollard and Carter the top two. His World Cup will live long in the memory. Came in late from injury and kicked 12 from 12 to win a quarter, semi and final by one point. Pressure kicks, in WC knockout games. Also a physical and warrior like performance in the final with an accompanying cut to the face. Legendary stuff.

[@davidbell5525]

after Naas of course.

[@dairet1945]

Nah, how can he be called the best when he has never won v Ireland?

[@ryanfulton2247]

Gets me pumped when I hear that podcast intro music = brilliant rugby banter loading. 🔄

[@davidekerold9071]

Keo and Zels are an awesome team together. They have a special repour together. Two's company but three's a crowd.

[@freed000]

100% agree. Need to ditch the 3rd wheel.

[@Rugby-xp1wh]

This is NOT the same Irish team. No sexton, no Hansen, no Keenan, no Gibson park. the Irish defense and attack simply won't be at the same level as the past. It may never will. the boks should win the series comfortably

[@Camcolito]

Hansen is really a big loss that is not talked about, ties things together in subtle ways.

[@Rugby-xp1wh]

@@Camcolito Ireland with a fully fit team starting Hansen, Lowe and Keenan as back 3 were never beaten. Hansen was playing injured and taken off against the all blacks. Lowe was also playing injured in that game too. That whole back 3 trio were never given their credit.

[@Camcolito]

@@Rugby-xp1wh He never should have played against NZ, that was a huge mistake. JOB was brilliant when he came on, instead had a clearly injured Hansen. The other one was leaving a half-dead Sexton on.

[@Rugby-xp1wh]

@@Camcolito100% . Nobody has pointed the finger at Andy yet which baffles me. Maybe this tour and Nov tests will change that …. Let’s see

[@aidanmasterson50]

Gibbs looks great! My favourite British and Irish Lions player. As an Irish man I know we have boxed above our weight for a number of years. We have always struggled against physically dominant sides and only win when our best are on the park. Both those are against us for this tour. Just one too many key players missing and we just don’t have SA’s depth. Our only hope is the Springboks don’t play to their potential, but this is possible and our guys a smart players who will take advance of any weakness.

[@sportsdictionary590]

Great discussion, great content and great passion

[@marknelson8918]

Seems like there is a big difference in Irish culture to Soith African. An Irish player saying “see you in the final” is a friendly casual comment. It could almost be translated to either team could have won that match. It is certainly not Irish being arrogant.

[@patrickbrennan911]

41:58 Funny, I never in my life have seen a situation where you’re not allowed celebrate a win until SA lost to Ireland in the WC. I don’t understand why SA had such a big problem with Ireland celebrating that win. If they didn’t win they were under pressure just to get out if the group. Of course the celebrated. What a crime 🙄

[@daviddempster8717]

Thanks boys, what a treat🇿🇦

[@SAPPERBRAVO]

As the saying goes "I love Manie" I do. Brilliant player. AS LONG AS HE DOES NOT KICK A BLOODY BALL TO GOAL. 😂 Seriously, if Pollards good to go, there is nobody else that can or WILL EVER replace him. He does NOT MISS. And Faf if good to go, HAS to play, as well, so underated but does so much on the pitch.

[@user-du8em2xq5c]

Could they put Libbok and Sacha on the bench to come on together? Sacha at 15 and taking over the kicking?

[@timothynxele8277]

Say it again😊

[@GysbertDewet]

I believe this is what the future will be like after or before the world cup in 2027, when Handre and Willie slowly gets worked out

[@user-du8em2xq5c]

@@GysbertDewet I just remembered there is still Willemse coming back; Wllie phased out? Tandems of Pollard-Willemse and Libbok-Sacha? Tony Brown will love that!

[@GhostBra333]

​@@user-du8em2xq5cI was actually thinking about it this morning.

[@garyburger6319]

That's really smart!

[@geoffnelson6756]

Ireland peaked just before the WC, the ridiculous draw halted a potential WC final, but they were unconvincing at the 6 nations, despite winning and really should have had the grand slam, but without Sexton and JGP we are in a development stage with new personnel, looking forward to the games, but very unlikely that Ireland will reach the level they achieved in NZ with the series win. Hopefully they can get some fresh talent in before the next WC.

[@irishgooooner5928]

Your chatting nonsense lad🤣🤣

[@LeMerch]

@@irishgooooner5928 Why? He's not totally wrong but SA will also be in the same boat.

[@irishgooooner5928]

@@LeMerch SA and ire both have their core best still playing, Crowley in settling in well at 10, a exposure to tour rugby will do him worlds of good. We're missing jgp but we need to start winning without these players too and we're well capable of doing it with Andy Farrell at the wheel

[@Spikeaccount675]

We have a treat next week. All Blacks and our Springboks playing. I can't wait to see the All Blacks in action again. Hope they win against England.

[@sakabula2357]

Just love test season

[@bryanantolik9900]

The whole day is a treat

[@Wolf-hh4rv]

Brilliant conversation

[@vinceroos]

Just cancelled my Tinder date to listen to this podcast.

[@KewKew-do3kq]

It was you 😮

[@gavinshaw6732]

So proud that we have such incredible rugby brains and memories in these two boys!

[@bjornhoffmann6008]

At the end of his career...Kwagga will be remembered as fondly as Heinrich Brussouw. For me anyway

[@Rugger510]

Funny enough, Kwagga Smith stated that Heinrich Brüssow was his hero growing up. It’s a shame that Brüssow’s international career was ravished by a misguided coaching philosophy.

[@trininair1005]

I think better.....especially after what he did in France

[@markcrossman3356]

Agreed. Absolute legend.

[@revenant2979]

They had to change the rules for Brussow. He was a devastating good player. That's how a specialist best in the world player was taken out of Spriingbokrugby by the administrators up in England.

[@hadrianbeaton1572]

Broussouw is a wanne be qwagga😊.He would wanne be a qwagga...

[@paulrider2519]

Well this is my lunchtime viewing sorted then…

[@AD-zcvnt]

Great review. Very honest assessment lads, from an Irishman. Enjoyed watching Scott platy, except against Ireland 😂Going to be a great test. Atm, I'd give SA the edge. It's been a tasty build-up, but rugby needs a series with bite like this to attract the viewers. No matter the result, rugby wins. Good luck both teams, comman Ireland!

[@PaulJacksonZA]

Wonderful Friday treat 😊

[@craigscoinpurse]

really good chat lads. so many angles discussed and impartially fair.

[@stephenstrydom1]

Thanks guys!

[@user-bq6bp5ze2w]

Not sure what the 10 debate is even about, love Manie but there is no question that Handre takes the lead on this one.

[@user-uc8yb9rt5d]

Exactly how is an inconsistent 10 even being debated

[@SMacCuUladh]

As an Ireland fan I want to see Mannie starting, that should tell you who should start.

[@username-iq1nt]

100%. Yes, Manie is good at playmaking, but we can’t forget that not only is he inconsistent with kicks off the tee, but also unreliable when it comes to clearing kicks in their own 22

[@toscabrutus1781]

Uitstekende Bespreking! Ek dink Scott Gibbs dra baie by! Groete uit LIma Peru!

[@at7512]

We lost to Ireland in Dublin because we did not have a kicker, same scenario in the world cup, we have to select a kicker against Ireland, if we dont we run the risk of defeat...

[@Alias-gy3tz]

Exactly.

[@Graham159871]

Cant blame the losses on 1 player IMO, a lot of mistakes on defence and discipline as well

[@alh3328]

@@Graham159871Agree. Sure a great kicker will give you an edge but, if the team can’t win consistently without a singular individual you need to question if the team itself is any good.

[@at7512]

@@Graham159871 not blaming any players, strategically Boks got selection wrong, need a kicker in test rugby, especially in tight games... recent world cup a perfect example of this..

[@Graham159871]

@@at7512 we had a kicker in both games, I dont recall them being easy kicks that anyone should nail, if I recall correctly it rained in the WC game. I agree he is not the most consistent but worth having in the team

[@Stormer-Europa]

You should get Tim from egg chasers. He's in SA.

[@LeMerch]

I find it funny that in Ireland this game is barley mentioned in any media, but looking at SA media its massive.

[@evanh8749]

Great show. Always enjoy the chin wag, even if i don't agree with all the opinions. Looking forward to this two match contest. Both teams are experimenting with changes. I see the Springboks working through some rust, so may look out of sorts in that 1st half. Ireland won the 6 nations, but definitely do look weaker at the 9 and 10 combination on paper. Just happy to see the Southern and Northern hemisphere green machines stay on top and duke it out again. Boks by 10! ... Or by 1! 😅

[@ashBB2407]

Its unreal how cringe these guys are when writing sports articles BUT absolutely love their pod & really enjoy listening to them. They are brilliant & a fountain of knowledge.

[@johnnybravo6829]

Great episode gents.. longer the better!

[@manAfrica]

Awesome 55 minutes of rugby rugby rugby🔥 great podcast

[@darrynnefdt8933]

love the Longer form vids!

[@andreengelbrecht8467]

I thought it would be a no brainer to use Sacha for goal kicking instead of Manie. Or am I missing something

[@nickbacon5314]

Can't wait for Tuesday, no rugby podcast like this. Agreed with him. I think everyone has the same questions who will be no 8? Kwagga or Roos, no 9 Faf or Cobus and the big question no.10 Pollard or Manie and on the bench Sacha? Number 11 KLA or VD Merwe ? My team I think Kwagga at 8 Roos on Bench switch it up for the 2nd test. Pollard start with Sacha on the bench (utility opens to a 6-2 split) with Cobus I think goes safe with KLA and VD Merwe will play in the 2nd test.

[@Mojo16011973]

It's personal, but we love you guys.

[@user-sd5xe5dz2t]

Boks vs Ireland... who wears what colour top?

[@StaalBurgher0]

Boks are in green

[@user-sd5xe5dz2t]

@@StaalBurgher0 I'm going to hold you to that Steel 🍔... if u r wrong.. you owe me a beer 🍺 and 🍔

[@dairet1945]

Home team has to wear the change shirt, Ireland in green.

[@user-sd5xe5dz2t]

@@dairet1945 Thought as much...which is strange...

[@dairet1945]

@@user-sd5xe5dz2t Ireland usually wear white when the Boks play in Dublin.

[@Alias-gy3tz]

Pollard over Manie every day of the week, and twice on Sundays. We lost to Ireland thanks to Manie. We almost lost to England as well, thank goodness the coaches had the balls to pull him early. Pollard is the man, Sacha is the future.

[@noelbyrne8735]

This is pretty decent commentary coming from South Africa (Irish accent impersonations withstanding)…..A hell of a lot better than that tripe I was watching/listening to on the Super sports final whistle show yesterday……

[@keithfinch1053]

Love it!

[@rocklemon4948]

Awesome episode. Off topic Zels mic had focus and not him

[@morganrawson7386]

Go with Pollard to win the 1st test. Tick that box give Libbok full run to show us his stuff in the 2nd test.

[@MosesMatsepane]

I wish we could have another goal kicker on the pitch while Libbok is playing at 10. We don’t score a lot of Tries against Tier-1 nations when Pollard is at 10.

[@daverogers2240]

Play Sacha on the wing if Leebok is on. Then Sacha takes the kicks.

[@MosesMatsepane]

@@daverogers2240 Solid plan.

[@adrianincapetown7043]

I would disagree and say that the 2023 version was the best Irish team of the professional era. The 2024 version without JGP and Sexton, is just not on the same level.

[@markcrossman3356]

Great to have Scott Gibbs in the mix. He was a human wrecking ball in his day

[@pieterlouis1]

This podcast is the best thing since Chasing the Sun 1&2

[@afisherking]

Why don't you meet up with Tim from Eggchasers I hear he is in SA for an appointment interview or a chat you can thank me later for the views

[@andilemabuza1061]

I think Manie first half and Polly second. Manie will be able to do the leg work; opening up the game, recognising space, etc. Polly is great under pressure able to do the work when it's crunch time. I'd put them both on at the same time if it were possible

[@W0nderer]

Kwagga at 8 I think Roos off the bench. Faf has a niggle injury so I would love to see Grant Williams get good game time. Cobus has apparently been playing well this season. Otherwise its the world cup final team.

[@jasonjohnflaherty]

Great show ,as a Irish man I have to say I agree with everything ye were saying, 2 great teams although I think Ireland is on a bit of a downward trend.

[@KamogeloRakgalakane]

I love this podcast

[@johnfrench741]

Excellent rugby podcast againn

[@Nologogo]

Missing Hansen, Keenan, JGP and Conan. The rest of the squad look tired, mentally shot and short of anything resembling form. Few young players pushing for a place so levels of competition within the squad are pretty low. I dont think this series will be particularly close to be honest. Just a month or two too far into this never ending season.

[@DataDuncan]

Pollard has to play unless we don't really want to beat Ireland.

[@siyabulelanoyo3338]

Evan is just not ready to start against Ireland. I feel comparing him to Spies is a bit disrespectful to Spies. He just doesn't give you the expected impact.

[@lourow1993]

What’s this guy on about New Zealand need to get their shit together. They finished runners up in the World Cup, have won 10 of the last 12 rugby championships..

[@murraysmith595]

Yeah it's crazy. Act like they have been dominating us 🤦

[@wynandjacobs3028]

Cant wait for this football match on Saturday. We are the best at footy. World football champions. Its called rugby!!!!!!!!!

[@GysbertDewet]

You don’t need Manie when you have willie leroux. They will pick Pollard for the first game. If we win Manie will probably start the second game. Pollard has also been in camp a week or 2 longer

[@adrianincapetown7043]

Like the World Cup final, this series is too important not to start Pollard.

[@myshepspud1]

Thank you for the analysis otherwise. :)

[@Natedawg38]

Ireland coming for ya boytjie

[@sakabula2357]

Bring it on zombie

[@Natedawg38]

@@sakabula2357 haha! That's we're talking about! 🇮🇪 🇿🇦

[@thobelandlebe4909]

Very excited go Boks 💪🏽

[@jsdutoit85]

I have to agree with choosing pollard at 10. If I think back to the last few times we lost to the Irish we always had a shocker off the tee. You can’t miss a few penalties and expect to beat the Irish. Go Bokke!

[@michaelharrison5564]

I feel like we are going to the lions den unfortunately, just hope we put up a good fight at this point

[@user-yq7tt3ii6h]

Bok fans: " Boks versus Ireland is personal !!! " Ireland fans: " is the match on this weekend !? "

[@nmn9166]

Irish fan : I think the lads look tired but I’m hoping the disappointing end to club season might entice a response before the holidays . Hanson , jgp, and Keenan massive loss. We are light at 3 , 9, 10, 15. I’m hoping for a draw . I think we win second test. 🇮🇪😎

[@johannblignaut1966]

The talk will soon be Handre or Sacha.Keep an eye on how Siya Masuku does in his second season in first class rugby.

[@willoosthuizen5864]

If you have Willie at the back you can afford to have Manie on the bench. Bulls showed that Willie can be brilliant at first receiver on attack.

[@sakabula2357]

Yip..Bulls had no attack during the URC final because Willie wasn't there

[@plutoniumnitrate1201]

Willie is getting too old and should not be important going forward....new talent is now needed to build a young and capable squad

[@sakabula2357]

@@plutoniumnitrate1201 yes I agree Willie is getting old...but you don't withdraw someone with that much test experience just before an all important series agianst the Irish...Phepsi or whichever player is going to take over that number 15 jersey can only benefit from Willie's influence...We are in a good position to have time to build before the next WC...but for now...beating the Irish is all that matters...

[@gerhardvtonder]

10 is Handre Pollard. 6/2 bench split? Who is nr 23?

[@westscotindex8972]

I am not sure it is personal, wales had a 4 game win streak against South Africa. I think the most annoying thing from an Irish fan that i can think of, is that Rugby History only started at Chicago 2016 onwards. It is easy to just say they have won 7 of the last 11 since the end of 2004, but if you include all the games from the turn of the century, it is 7 each and that is excluding the British and IRISH lions tests, that does not count since the IRISH part is just relevant and brought up if you get the name wrong. Look, Wales and Australia have had similar win records vs South Africa, and eventually the tide turns and it goes the other way. Still a 50/50 game on the 6th.

[@johnfrench741]

Tim from egg chasers on this podcast will give u plenty likes, shares and followers - just saying 😊

[@zuberhaniff2938]

With browns influence we might see a different Pollard. He would already have a criteria for the first 5 8th to fit in

[@sinenhlanhlamlondo8013]

I still think Rassie should've picked Sanele Nohamba, on current form he should make the 23 men squad

[@markmacken1]

Zels at 44.20 was hilarious from an irish perspective

[@basharatmohammed4561]

Ireland are chokers, i love this Show, They always keep it real

[@michaelshanahan4042]

Ha ha that old Chestnut 🌰 are you a South African because you are definitely a bore 😊

[@neilmac6049]

“The way the Irish celebrated (41:38) like they won a World Cup angered the SA players…..😂😂”……what doesn’t anger you bunch of psychos?? Of course they celebrated….they just beat one of the best teams in the world at a World Cup….seriously guys…..if you need to feel aggrieved to get psyched up for a match…that’s fine….the kiwis get the chance to do it with a war dance….but all this shite talk about Ireland being arrogant or getting ahead of themselves or you never made it past a QF…. Go and shite…just enjoy the match for what it is….we are not renowned for being aggressive or world class, listen to an Irish rugby player being interviewed…they are nearly all (and I did say nearly all) quiet and unassuming….even the hype is not recognised here as much as soccer or Gaelic Games (which are in full throttle for All Ireland season)….I am personally looking forward to the game, think SA will probably win both, would be delighted with a solid, strong performance but won’t lose my mind if we lose. Also the World Cup game is the only game I have ever watched that I can remember how many kicks were missed during a match because we keep being told that’s how we won….because poor old Mannie couldn’t knock 4 kicks over (class player by the way)…..may the best team win on each occasion (and if we do win a game, I sincerely hope you make your kicks so you won’t go on about it afterwards)….❤❤❤ from Ireland

[@SMacCuUladh]

Wonderful comment, Neil. My thoughts exactly.

[@LeMerch]

Well said. Bok fans said before the game we will never beat them at a world cup and laughed at us. Then after they immediately jumped to all the excuses you can think of as well as being weirdly passive aggressive about us. Its tiring. I really hope we beat them and win the series and rub it in their faces because they are by far the worst fans of any sport I've ever come across.

[@sportrocdoc2237]

Kwagga! The best.

[@CptRumcan]

Lekke boys!!

[@EduardVictor-fy1cp]

It not only kicking for Manie

[@daverogers2240]

I would start Malcom because he is a good fetcher. I would also start Evan. Then replace Marx with Bongi and Siya with Kwagga. Then we have a good fetcher for the entire game. Make Evan work for as long as possible to see if he has the endurance at test level.

[@caymanfrigate]

Such a lekker show. Hits the spot. Ian Scott Gibbs is a wonderful addition; ) Gracias

[@gavinsmith9571]

Why are we not talking about Hacjivah Dayimani?

[@pietbotha1]

It's obvious that Gibbs knows what he's talking about. Respect for what he's achieved and his knowledge of the game. He just talks way too much... Seems like he loves the sound of his own voice.

[@SACleanWater]

It looks like the focus is so off on the production

[@melthenning9140]

Rassie will go with a 5 -3 split. Unfortunately, in big games, you need a kicker 😅 so obviously, Libbok for entertaining and exiting rugby well coached ❤ Sacha 12 and DDA and Polard or Siya 60mins in onwards 🏆