Bill is a devious puppet master but one thing he said was true: This all started because Liam wasnt honest with himself and his feelings. He wasnt honest with Hope about how he didnt want to wait for marriage for sex. He wasnt honest about his feelings for Steffy. He wasnt honest to Hope about how he didn't want their wedding being used to prop Hope For The Future. He kept this all inside and in his frustration, he allowed himself to get easily manipulated. So he can blame Bill or Steffy all he wants but at the end of the day, they didnt make him fall for Steffy. They didnt make him propose to Steffy and they didnt make him marry Steffy. He chose to do those things all on his own. If he really loved Hope like he claimed, he would have never let Steffy get close in the 1st place
@Godsgem11084 жыл бұрын
I am going to say this, if Liam loved Hope the way she says he does, no other woman could of came between them period!!!
@prometheusstrive30264 жыл бұрын
He was going to spend the rest of his life with hope but he kept on getting manipulated by other people around him. Hell even hope married wyatt just because Liam was 5 minutes late to their wedding because he was busy saving someone from almost dying.
@gracemukemba883 жыл бұрын
@Brianna Price i e gree whith you
@winter_s_443 жыл бұрын
You realize you can say the same thing about Steffy, right? You could easily say: “if Liam loved Steffy the way she says he does, no other woman could have come between them.” What you’re missing is that Liam only ever chose Steffy out of obligation (marriage, pregnancy). He NEVER needed a reason to go back to Hope b/c his love for Hope was never contingent on obligation, it just was and existed whether he was married to her or not, whether she was pregnant or not.
@gracemukemba883 жыл бұрын
@@winter_s_44 but hope was whith Liam furst and steffy took liam e way from hope and know she has e good man and still she shoose to sleep whith her ex Liam but we will see what will happen
@jaynesemcfarland3 жыл бұрын
@@prometheusstrive3026 what a poor excuse no amount of manipulation can make him do things he’s just a loser perioddd
@kitjune93334 жыл бұрын
Steffy, what the hell are you going to be fighting for? Liam has shown you he can't be trusted. Get rid of him!
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
Kit I agree with u thanks 100 percent
@natalierose8812 жыл бұрын
Well she can't be trusted either sounds like a match made in hell
@STackinDre2 жыл бұрын
Lmao he can’t be trusted even though she trapped hope in gondola
@kitjune93332 жыл бұрын
@@STackinDre yes, she stopped a gondola while he was up on that mountain presumably to meet another woman. Tell me, how is he trustworthy?
@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi9 ай бұрын
@kitjune9333 She was the one who pursued a man that was in love with another woman. So I'm pretty sure Steffy already knew Liam had divided feelings going in considering the nature of their relationship
@karenprince68405 жыл бұрын
Best line Bill! How can you expect honesty when you can’t be honest with yourself? Every time Liam has problem with Steffy he ran to Hope which said a lot about his maturity. The worst part is Hope was always ready and waiting
@ehrenfriedostermann68394 жыл бұрын
So was Ridge all the time.
@mariejordan23694 жыл бұрын
I LOVE. HOPE. DEARLY SHE,S. HONEST. ABOUT HER. FEELINGS. 4. LIAM. AFTER. BEING. MANIPULATED. BY. BILL. & STEEFY.
@debbiefelts56403 жыл бұрын
Every time he had a problem with Hope, he ran to Steffy. It went both ways.
@natalierose8812 жыл бұрын
@@debbiefelts5640 exactly, isn't she wearing hopes ring
@sherquettaingram89652 ай бұрын
Hope and Steffy was 🤡 waiting on Liam commit to one of them
@aiden8774 жыл бұрын
I was really mad about this triangle because all the other characters got pushed to the side or written out, at least with Brooke vs Taylor in the 90s the other characters still have plenty of story and screen time.
@msrain12352 жыл бұрын
Also to do the same story as their mothers is so boring! If they were going to do a triangle why not do it between Hope/Liam/Aly. Hope and Steffy could have broke the cycle of Forrester vs Logan and bonded as sisters.
@notgivinup Жыл бұрын
Exactly, this is around the year B&B started going downhill fast. They only focused on the second generation of Forresters, Logans & Spencers and the main, original characters became B storylines. Just awful.
@prestonrcasey Жыл бұрын
If I'm being honest, I skipped over a lot of the storylines that have been uploaded on the B&B channel from season 6-10. A lot of the stuff with the Spectra characters were fine, but then there was Felicia and her boyfriends, the Bikini crew, Macy and Thorne's relationship, none of that was interesting. I think the show's critics said the same, so now Brad Bell's solution was to focus storylines on one or two things happening at a time rather than other characters breathing.
@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi11 ай бұрын
I do like how Liam admitted he did love Steffy, right in front of Hope. Hope was taken back cause Liam didnt hesitate saying it
@sherquettaingram76649 ай бұрын
When Liam said that Hope should have walk away for good
@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi9 ай бұрын
@sherquettaingram7664 Exactly. It wouldn't be the first time either Liam admitted how much Steffy meant to him in front of Hope. But Hope always ignored it or chose not to believe it cause she was desperate to cling to Liam
@karrenherrin902 жыл бұрын
That’s nice, Hope has to blackmail Bill to accept and like her.
@bubblezzxxd154 жыл бұрын
I really don't have anything to do during quarantine lol. But anyway, anyone ever notice that Steffy's confidence is false? And she acts like Liam is not allowed to leave her. How psycho
@fundiswagumede25163 жыл бұрын
I've always said the same thing .
@ILoveRomances3 жыл бұрын
@@fundiswagumede2516 I think it's a great continuity in writing. Remember classic Stephanie to Eric, "you can't leave ME"? One of the things that B&B gets right is how adult children take on the personality traits of their elders. I'm really happy with how Hope and Steffy are being written right now. They both have matured. Liam - the jury's still out. Liam is often compared to Ridge but if you ask me he's most like Brooke. He never means to hurt the women in his life but he does repeatedly and they and everyone else always forgives him with minimal self-reflection time.
@dsteph27896 ай бұрын
Brooke never means to hurt people? I have yet to see Brooke put anyone before her libido. She knew being involved with Eric would hurt Beth, Ridge and Stephanie, she delighted in getting Stephanie back. She didn't even care with Bridget 15, when it came to Deacon. Katie when it came to Bill. How many marriages have ended because Brooke thought she was in love with someone else's husband.
@bubblezzxxd156 ай бұрын
@@dsteph2789 Brooke definitely means to hurt people. But what I don't think is fair, is that characters will also set out to hurt Brooke and pretend that wasn't their intention. Like let's all just be honest here
@austrianer7312 күн бұрын
Steffy only suddenly fell in love with Liam because he saved her life. From then on, she left no stone unturned to force herself between Liam and Hope and even to disrespect their engagement. The highlight was the quick wedding in Aspen, as the ugliest bride in the most horrible wedding dress I've ever seen, with which she literally took Liam by surprise and he couldn't say "no". And now she wants to stick with this pseudo wedding? That's just ridiculous.
@albertaabner30402 жыл бұрын
Steffy, how does it feel? been involved in a manipulated marriage, your conniving, deceitful ways, caused you lose Liam, you have been lying to Liam ever since you met him, you been married to him, it didn't change anything, but made you more manipulative, now more than ever. Steffy you should have never came between Liam and Hope. Steffy you caused yourself all the pain you are going through, and you deserve it.
@robindeas16104 жыл бұрын
Liam Just Loves The One He's With
@maureenlewis40314 жыл бұрын
And thirsts for the 1 he isn't
@kchellkat18472 жыл бұрын
His song is love the one your with, Lol
@melissahess74514 жыл бұрын
Stop preaching to Liam ♥️ and hope ♥️ because bill ♥️ you only want steffy 💔 around so you can have her again in case Katie ♥️💛 dumps you again with good reason s to do so
@ingerrogers31464 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest, I was once a good girl, who's now gone bad, but believe this, bad girls finish last, TOO! We get the good guys just like the rest.
@angelomasi31275 жыл бұрын
Hope looks here like old rug
@neeshaanthony73465 жыл бұрын
D moment Liam said Bill u knew i was going to leave Steffy and go bk to Hope i wud of left Liam right there
@cias_food5 жыл бұрын
Neesha Anthony Steffy has no shame or self worth.
@neeshaanthony73465 жыл бұрын
@@cias_food she's ah worthless dog,i hate her bk then an i hate her now wud never like her ever,i may like her when dey kill off her character
@karenprince68405 жыл бұрын
Sarah P actually both these women have no pride, Liam was 100% wrong in the either situation and yet these women and their parents kept acting like he was this good person. He strung these women along and they allowed it
@neeshaanthony73465 жыл бұрын
@@karenprince6840 so true i taught they wud have let Hope be the stronger person becoz of the fact that liam didn't wait to hear why she had ended tings he just rushed into a marraige with Steffy who only knew was to throw sex his way,he and Hope had plans they were building a life together setting goals someting he and Steffy never even talked about
@karenprince68404 жыл бұрын
Neesha Anthony it kills me that they continue to have this soap portray women as mindless idiots. You would’ve thought that with all the heartache at least one of them would’ve wised up by now 🤦🏿♀️.
@DeeCaffeinated004 жыл бұрын
Bill is a damned mess @13:33, when he pushed that guy on the cell phone and told him, 'Get outta here'. LMBO
@OlgaQLD Жыл бұрын
The writers adulation of Hope is nauseating 🤮
@kathycaldwell84753 жыл бұрын
I agree with you ,400percent Melissa
@ehrenfriedostermann68394 жыл бұрын
Hope was fascinating on this episode to Bill.
@bad_destriddimproductionsm86134 жыл бұрын
Steffy stay with finn please
@carrieheffernan16853 жыл бұрын
Love that thumbnail!
@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi11 ай бұрын
Liam should have used this seperation from Steffy to get his head on straight. Stay away from Hope and Steffy and finally sit down and sort out his feelings. But he didnt, he just immediately bounced back to the other girl like he always does. And thats why he's always conflicted. Cause he never get his emotions and feelings in order
@emmasummers8932 жыл бұрын
Bill needs to mind his own business. Let his son make his own stupid mistakes. And Steffy why would you want to be his wife? After the way he talked about Hope like she’s perfect. Steffy just let the doofus go. And I’m honestly happy that Steffy is now with Finn. All these years later she released herself from the triangle with Liam. She was incredibly graceful and strong in that moment.
@natalierose8812 жыл бұрын
She knew exactly how Liam felt about hope from the beginning but she didn't care.
@natalierose8812 жыл бұрын
Steffy is with Finn as a default. She chose him after she realized that Liam was not going to leave his wife.
@kchellkat18472 жыл бұрын
This show should be called Let’s Make A Deal,if you notice they all have daddy issues
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
I agree with u liam but steffy she in love with bill she can stay with bill and marry here u take hope and go to live u life better live bye steffy
@vanessamichelle14742 жыл бұрын
Life with Bambi 😂😂
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
Hi bill u tell liam don't and u married why what about u married bill all he what steffy close to here beacons he is in love with steffy trouble make manipulation
@cristinasoenen81285 жыл бұрын
I miss Hope lijk that!
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
steffy u can stay with bill and marry beacons u still in love u bill Katie is gone stay with u father in low
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
Yes hope u get him bill he think he better dun u father decon
@amberlindawnbrigman Жыл бұрын
Say what you want about hope, but hope actually cared about Steffys feelings. Steffy didn’t care about Hope’s.
@ahy4234 Жыл бұрын
Hope was and is selfish like her mother. She didn't really care about Steffy's feelings as long as she got what she wanted. Steffy was just as ruthless at first, but later always gave Liam the space to make his own decisions. Hope never could.
@robindeas16104 жыл бұрын
Lol Ditzy Donna
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
Life is not a business
@karrenherrin902 жыл бұрын
Did Liam just break up with his Dad?
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
If want hate some body hate me u ask liam please don't live steffy because u want steffy behind u bill liam he don't want steffy he want hope
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
He is buzzy with liam and steffy merried what about u married bill what u love u son u can do what bill's do
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
Tell here liam he must back of and looking for self and wife
@celiamarshall36773 жыл бұрын
Hope you are a to timer
@belindawilkinson51583 жыл бұрын
Liam needs to stick to one woman
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
Hope u have to closed that big mouth of bill beacons he think is boss maybe is boss of steffy
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
Live is not business bill u must looking for live forget about Liam and his live and looking for self trouble make manipulation liam and hope over and over u and steffy
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
I gave u 100 percent hope u have to closed that big mouth of u bill
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
He is not is u care about steffy what about u wife hei bill
@phahlakazielisamathe48792 жыл бұрын
Yes liam make u deshen forget about business man who what to stay with steffy beacons he love steffy for u and u love hope very much forget about puppet muster money make bill
@cristinasoenen81284 жыл бұрын
Ya Steffie is together so Biil is rude to Hope again.
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
Hope I am proud about u hope u have to closed that big mouth of bill beacons he try liam like car or water in the river bye bill
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
Now is time steffy to go to bill beacons Katie is gone beacons u and puppet muster money make bill specers
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
What about u are marryd bill liam he don't want u advance or hulp back of and looking for marred wena bill close that big mouth of u bill
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
Good hope u have to closed that big mouth of bill beacons he is with liams married what about u married bill a man like bill I can marry with here bill big mamba I hate manipulation trouble make
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
The is no business man like u bill u are a original trouble make manipulation u son life u push steffy in liam hand and liam love hope not steffy is not innocent u think so what about u wife bill
@TERRYMYERS-qb9zg26 күн бұрын
CEC CET UE
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
Liam he don't need u hulp where is u wive trouble make bill specer puppet muster money make bill manipulation liam and hope over and over u and steffy shem on u steffy
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
A live is not a business bill u must looking for self and wife and child not liam is the u try to hulp liam he don't want u advance u hulp
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
U support bill steffy what is wrong about steffy liam u can go to hope is where u belong hope love u so much but u father bill he destroy u live and love about steffy he push steffy in liam hand over and over maybe steffy think bill love here he use steffy
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
U are buzzy about Liam and steffys married what about u married bill u marry steffy for liam liam he don't want marry steffy u want steffy close I agree with katy shem on u bill u can stay with steffy now is the time the door is open for u steffy baby make trouble make manipulation all hope boyfriend she on u steffy i never be u steffy hae nooooo
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
No manipulation u manipulation liam and hope u want liam must take steffy u can stay with steffy bill Katie is gone stay with steffy free no body can ask u bill specer puppet muster money make bill
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
U can stay with bill baby make puppet muster money make he wife is gone beacons u and puppet muster stay with puppet muster baby make free
@phahlakazielisamathe48793 жыл бұрын
U not a father bill u are trouble make and not business man u are tire feet like steffy liam love hope very much is who pushing steffy in liam hand and liam he don't love steffy he love hope