I probably should charge it less but I do 100%. I'm looking to buy a battery at a discount and do those blue batteries have the BMS? Maybe that's why they are way cheaper places like Alibaba. I saw a place where I could have bought the hammer bike for $750 if I waited three months. Well for people like me that will save me more than $600
@LetArtsLive3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why it is not possible to have a generator on your bike to charge a battery but it must not be possible or someone would have done it. I've seen people make a house fan into a generator why could you not make a bike motor into a generator and have it in your wheel?
@TheDethsight3 жыл бұрын
normally 100%. haven't had an issue with either of my bikes (radrunner w/ bolton upgraded controller and juiced scorpion with the off road controller upgrade). although, my scorpion does tend to "run low" on voltage faster than the battery loses power. maybe the 52v 13ah battery struggles to keep up with the off road controller power needs. not sure. doesn't really run the voltage low if i mix in some pedal assist.
@djbastetusa3 жыл бұрын
This guy is one of the most realistic no bs about truth in ebikes
@ohhenry53132 жыл бұрын
he misinformed. One should never fully discharge a led acid battery.
@marshallmaia81302 жыл бұрын
@@ohhenry5313 I accidentally fully discharged my 72v 50amp lithium battery, It used to charge to 85v now it only charges to 80v, the battery has only 500km on it, did I mess up the battery by fully discharging it to zero?
@connicrow94635 ай бұрын
@@marshallmaia8130you just answered your own question lol
@glikar13 жыл бұрын
He is giving good advice, folks! I ride almost daily, going on five years now, on a heavy recumbent trike with the original battery. It has a 1kw Bafang motor and a 23 Ah battery. I keep it on the charger all the time. It takes hours to fully balance all the cells. I charge to 54 volts and rarely run it down past 47 volts. I take it apart yearly to check for corrosion and clean it up. The more oversized the battery you can carry, the longer it will last.
@fritzstauff2 жыл бұрын
Does it need to stay on the charger for hours after the charger indicates it fully charged to balance? I always turn it off right after.
@MHdollrevievs2 жыл бұрын
@@fritzstauff The Rad manual says 12 hours max.Read the manual as every manufacturer has different recommendations.
@vigilant_19347 күн бұрын
@@fritzstauff When it's fully charged you take it off since it's done balancing. Don't listen to people who leave their batteries plugged in after it's done charging/balancing.
@blairtweten85963 жыл бұрын
I spent close to 20 years in the lithium ion industry. This is a very good, informative post. There might be some minor technical issues but overall it is one of the best that I have seen. Simple and straightforward. Well done!
@user-mq8xg5sp9c2 жыл бұрын
Shut up blair. I know you and you did NOT spend any time in that industry. Seriously come on!
@blairtweten85962 жыл бұрын
@@user-mq8xg5sp9c you obviously do NOT know me
@user-mq8xg5sp9c2 жыл бұрын
@@blairtweten8596 yes I do!! We slept together 3 different times. You’ve work at Walmart for over 15 years you told me. And fyi your body odor is horrible. Fix that.
@blairtweten85962 жыл бұрын
@@user-mq8xg5sp9c lol. You've definitely got the wrong person!
@user-mq8xg5sp9c2 жыл бұрын
@@blairtweten8596 try and deny it. That’s fine. But you know who you are and who I am. You need serious therapy
@matthewhaworth59352 жыл бұрын
Charging to 100% is totally fine so long as you're going to use at least some % within 2 weeks at the most, but the sooner the better. I think for a majority of people, with modern lithium packs, degradation issues arise from improper storage far far more often than their charging practices. BMS have come a long way, as well as the cells. Basically just charge your battery, store it inside at a comfortable temperature when not in use, don't let it sit above 90% or below 10% for any prolonged period of time, and lastly maybe once a month to once every other month (depending on use) you should do a cell balancing charge where you leave the battery plugged into the charger for a period of time after it hits 100%. You better know how long to do this if your app or software gives diag info that shows individual cell voltages, otherwise you'll just have to leave it go for maybe 4-12 hours. Most chargers/BMS even once they show 100% do not actually stop charging completely. They typically drop to a very low current output, sort of like a trickle charge, and the BMS begins to very slowly balance out the cells in your pack. If you notice you don't get as much range from a 100% charge as you used to, cell imbalance is often the culprit. Although, depending on age and your care of the pack, it could just be degradation. However, even if your pack has started to degrade, if you have never done a balancing charge, you likely can get some range back from giving it a good balance charging.
@thisspotrules3631 Жыл бұрын
Very well said! I had to copy for my eBike battery spread sheet
@RickLaBanca3 жыл бұрын
Cold is bad for charging if below zero, but it extends the life of storing longer term. Hotter reduces life when using. The advice for charging 100 then discharge for longer term storage is right on the mark!
@lhb40313 жыл бұрын
When in use i do a full charge. Just before i store it in the winter after a full charge i run it down to about 3/4 charge, then i pull the battery out and bring it in the house for the winter. Thanks for the video.
@rayglasscock96673 жыл бұрын
Day after day alone on a hill the man with a flat battery keeping perfectly still, know one wants to help him they say he's just a fool with his wheels not going round and the sun going down eyes in his head sees his. Day after days (fool on the hill )great video confirms what I was told and incidental how important care off batterys I'm 68yr old pensioner running with top down cannot afford the money to join. Information spot on 👍👍🌞
@francoislepine4698 Жыл бұрын
Yep, that agrees with everything I've ever read/researched about batteries.... Summer, winter I store my batteries (2 bikes) inside my back door (where I have kind of a little "charging station" for them). Batteries don't like wild swings in temperature I've been told. Having the batts inside is also a theft deterrent for me as I keep my bikes outside, locked up on a covered deck. One topic that was not covered is HEAT!...All batteries are black. On one occasion I parked in bright sunshine on a very hot day and the battery got so hot after a couple of hours I could barely touch it!!! That can't be good. I now pay attention to where/what direction I park on such days. I painted one battery white (to match the white bike...and tell them apart). Heat caused by direct sun exposure would be less of a problem with that one.
@barneydefanfaler47602 жыл бұрын
Per battery engineer discussion I keep my Li E-Bike battery between 20-80% for *longivity (charge cycles). I use a plug in timer (used for lights & sprinklers). It charges at 10%/40 mins. If it is at 60% I set timer for 2 hrs. I charge it to 100% once to twice a month & for the occasional 40 mile ride. *A new battery is %600.
@lzwart993 жыл бұрын
Outstanding and informative tutorial on eBike lithium batteries. This is overall one of the best done videos I have watched on any subject, mixing practical and technical information in one very helpful package. Kudos.
@charlesyates668712 күн бұрын
My e bike battery is 11 years old and has delivered me 44'000 miles flawlessly.
@ExSkyCyclePilot3 жыл бұрын
If you fly radio controlled, li-ion powered airplanes and helicopters, you quickly become an expert on lithium based batteries, or you go broke. Charging from 80% to 100% creates a lot more wear than charging from 20% to 80%, and you should always store your batteries in a temperature controlled environment, at about 50%. With no load on the battery, that's about 3.85 volts per parallel cell pack. A 48 volt battery has 13 parallel packs of cells in series, so, for that battery, the unloaded storage voltage would be 3.85 volts X 13 = 50 volts. You should never leave a battery at 100% for more than a few hours, at most, and you should also try to avoid discharging below 20%. By the way, the 80%/20% rule works well for cell phones. I charge mine to 70%, and recharge it at 30%. So far, my phone has been charged in this manner over 1,300 times, with no loss of battery capacity whatsoever. Li-ion battery cycles are not linear. Charging from 0% to 100% equals one cycle, but charging from 30% to 70% (a 40% charge) is only equal to about one tenth of a cycle - not four tenths. A 20% to 80% charge is equal to less than a quarter of a cycle. New electric bike batteries cost hundreds of dollars. It's your money.
@michaeltyborski48022 жыл бұрын
Thank you for teaching us what none of Amazon's eBike books discuss.
@portnuefflyer Жыл бұрын
I've been riding an electric snowbike, a Ruffian SEND-E for a bit over a month now. I store it in my shop, which is around 60 degrees. When I go for a ride, my thought is that the battery produces a bit of heat when discharging, so I don't insulate it or have heaters. After a ride and back in the shop, I wait a few hours before charging, and then I charge at a low rate, 2 amps. It's a 72 V/75 AH Samsung battery, and this procedure is working well for me as it has massive range, a 2, 2.5 hr ride usually shows it with 50% or more capacity left. What I DON"T do, is leave it out all night, though if forced to I wouldn't expect it to be a problem..
@rays39953 жыл бұрын
I got over like 20 thousand miles on my bike same battery works perfect
@exgenica3 жыл бұрын
That is quite impressive. Are you using Li-Ion or LiFePO4 or something else? Can you describe how you use your battery? Do you charge it to Maximum voltage after every ride, 1x per week, etc. or do you charge it to a slightly lower voltage to prolong battery life? e.g. daily commute of X miles/km, weekly trips of X miles/km, occasional trip of X miles/km, infrequent trips, etc. Thanks.
@canadiane-biker8363 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me what battery and controller and motor you are running? And what range is max for your set up? Thanks so much 🙏
@keithmo803 жыл бұрын
Sounds like some BS to me lol. But if so then very cool
@rays39953 жыл бұрын
@@keithmo80 its called a ecotric bike
@helenHTID3 жыл бұрын
I believe you it's still working perfectly fine, But I bet you ain't getting close to it's original range! A battery pack can continue doing it's thing for as long as the cells can hold a charge, But the efficiency will diminish during that time which also means your range.
@bobjoyner25243 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video . When I was looking at batteries for my travel trailer I did a lot of research that agrees with everything you said. I have always charged mine to 100% so I don't run short on rides and have not noticed any problem after nearly 4 yrs. Keep up the good work Kyle.
@europanzz3 жыл бұрын
same here.. ive had mine nearly four years and I charge it daily..
@Bergwacht2 жыл бұрын
@@europanzz it also has a huge impact on the lifetime how empty you drive the battery please do not drive below 20%.
@bigdiglett3258 Жыл бұрын
Never ever only charge to 80 or 90%, such advice is actually killing battery packs. Always charge until after the light turns green for cell balancing. An unbalanced pack will die significantly quicker than it will take to run through the cell cycles
@paulachamberlain23963 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Senior I want a e bike . Maintenance is the most important thing.😊 I learned something .
@rudydelange5569 Жыл бұрын
I certainly agree, big thank you.
@BrentTheGent14 ай бұрын
I have revived many a Lipo battery by putting them on a standard NIHM charge for a couple of minutes first then onto their normal slow balance charge.
@bartjohnson81392 жыл бұрын
A very informative video, and BTW, I love your shop! I owned or ran European car chops for 30 years. They were always kept clean. The customers like seeing it, you can find what your looking for, (10m socket) and it’s much safer. You obviously think the same way.
@anthonyvega19593 жыл бұрын
I sort of accidentally came across your channel and I'm glad I did. I was looking on your ebike site and I was looking into getting two e-bikes so that my wife can join me on rides. I am getting the bikes as a means to maintain my health as well as to maintain my weight loss. As of a few years ago I was once at my heaviest at 620lbs and a few years later I am currently 324lbs and my weight has stabilized. I would have got your bikes sooner it just I got laid off last year and I was recently recalled back to work and I'm saving so I could place the order
@Area13ebikes3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy you found it! Keep watching! So much more fun to come
@1packatak2 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! Congrats on that weight loss!!!!! It takes a real commitment to do that. Wishing you the best👍👍
@anthonyvega19592 жыл бұрын
@@1packatak thank you
@ghostfox3560 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love finding this as I approach the 21 month mark of running a 250 watt motor ebike from Nakto. To say the least the battery has been cutting out as it gets down to under 40 degrees here in South Central Wisconsin. I went from around 12-24 miles a day for the first 2 months of owning the ebike to around 2-8 miles a day for the last 15 months. It's one of Nakto's Camel bikes. Sort of crappy low end, ya ask me. But... For under $800, what can we say? Good video on the matter. Just wish it helped with the low end stuff I have. Ya know the 3 LED indicator set up kind? Yeah... They suck to no end...
@wb73703 жыл бұрын
Sir,you explained this perfectly, better than anybody else.....i needed the information for my 3 ebikes and 3 electric scooters....thank you
@kokopelli314 Жыл бұрын
The battery explosion shown in this video is a Lithium Polymer pouch cell battery that's been seriously overcharged. Those are used primarily for drones, and RC cars and boats. Some do use them for ebikes because of the high C rating but without the proper balance charger, they can become firebombs.
@_skud2 жыл бұрын
good tips in general too. this works for all lithium ion battery devices.
@gun_4_hire3 жыл бұрын
Good Lord, what a bunch of Debbie Downers in these comments... I loved the video! It was filled with super good information and was refreshingly entertaining. You definitely got a new subscriber and fan in me!
@Area13ebikes3 жыл бұрын
The numbers of the video don't lie. ;)
@Honeypot-x9s Жыл бұрын
Hi, I wanna say with balancing of batteries yes leaving it plugged in can work if your battery isn’t much out of balance and only slightly. however if pack is more out of balance this may not be enough. BMS may keep protecting those lower cells too much. What you can do is discharge battery not till flat but very low then switch it off and pedal home. Once reaches green unplug it, wait several hours for the resting voltage of all the cells to be reached, like overnight, then plug it back in in the morning.. charger should kick in again if it’s out of balance because those weaker cells would dragged battery down a bit reaching that resting voltage across the whole pack. If only charged for a few minutes more, unplug it again, wait even longer, give it a complete day then plug it back in. If it keeps only charging very briefly like less then 30 mins then either cells aren’t as out of balance as suspected or there is possibly damage. 20-80% is a great range to maximize battery life. Start charging no less then 20% so don’t try to deplete it below 20% and charge up to 80% you can extend charge cycle life from several hundred to several thousand possibly 10s of thousands of charge cycles if you stick to that. Alternatively 35/100 rule I heard.. don’t discharge below 35% but charge up to 100% that will also work really well at keeps my battery running a long time.
@michaelmurphy54443 жыл бұрын
Interesting conversation on the Lithium battery discharge. I'll have to go back to my research but it seem Lithium batteries for an RV (solar power) vs AGM is the fact (or not) that you can only discharge an AGM to around 50% where as a lithium you can discharge to nearly Zero ?
@Excaliburt2 жыл бұрын
Lead-acid batteries can be damaged by repeated deep discharge (more than 50%). Lithium batteries can normally be discharged to their full rated capacity (100%). Which means twice at much power. Note that this only applies to a drop-in replacement batteries that have an onboard BMS that stops discharge before the lithium battery is low enough to cause problems.
@iancox78742 жыл бұрын
Tesla car company claims 1,000 times the recycle rate on li-ion if we charge to 80% and discharge to only 20% (above minimal rated safe voltage) Throwing the battery into the snow.. all the antics.. made this well worth the watch! Excellent information!
@timcarter76163 жыл бұрын
It would be good to keep a record of your battery's mileage and charging cycles, get a $10 voltmeter and learn its charging curve. Charge it to 80% 4 times then a full charge once, then repeat. The meter is useful all around the shop anyway. In winter, check it and keep it at 70% and you're golden.
@sleepingbearffg50082 жыл бұрын
I agree. And trickle charge as much as possible. Never get hot.or run low.
@herbboughner3944 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, what voltage do you charge it to ,the 48 volt or the fully charged voltage 54.4 volts to store it at 70%.
@timcarter7616 Жыл бұрын
@@herbboughner3944 54.4 is full, if it took 6 hours to get there, give it 20% less time on charge and read the voltage for yourself. I give mine 4.8 hours on charge and call it 80%. It isn't a critical measurement, and different batteries will have different curves due to age, actual usage and charger output.
@Woodchuckk3 жыл бұрын
I need that 52V 30Ah triangle battery, in stock soon I hope!
@jackjurphy50203 жыл бұрын
I found a 52v 20ah that looks better all things considered
@Cesar-cm4if Жыл бұрын
Great tips! And something else to always keep in mind if you're ebiking is to wear an nta helmet like xnito or bern, instead of a normal bike helmet (CPSC)
@BAAcic Жыл бұрын
Why?
@JayTheDragonKing2 жыл бұрын
this video could have been 5 minutes long with all the same info but I did find it helpful so thanks.
@goldviper52803 жыл бұрын
Thank You Kyle. You always put out great stuff.
@cosmiccharlie82942 жыл бұрын
I just purchased a 48v 20ah battery with premium 35e cells. Got a 3 amp smart charger to go with it. I'm sure i don't need 20ah but this way i can charge to 80% with the smart charget and get great life from it.
@redw0lf848 Жыл бұрын
what about balance charging? Say you have an ebike for extended period of time, and notice the performance or range has degraded, could balance charging correct this? I did not see this mentioned, whats a good way to go about this?
@MrAupaul3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you seem very knowledgeable! I have 3 e-bike #1 IZIP, #2 GIANT La free, #3 Trek Alant 7S The izip died with bad control panel rubber boot cover dry roted. I have be in electronics since 1966 HAWK MISSILES repair ect.. The IZIP was out of warranty plus the same week THEY WERE SOLD to another corporation. I diagnosis the problem and replaced the Capacitor that had blown apart. But that did not happen for a few months. Finally got the factory to sell me a new control panel for $300 +.. After a few more months! They were supposed to send software to update . But was not delivered. More months. I had bought the new GIANT. Never got the IZIP to show any signs of life. It was a great bike before. I suspect the battery had died. Now I started my ELECTRONIC career with TUBES! My first computer class was programing CARD PUNCH. JUMP STARTING 6 VOLT CHEVROLETS!! LOL LITHIUM IS SCARY!? I have Ischemic heart disease from US ARMY and Agent ORANGE 🍊. I ride my e bike almost every day. Would love to share the IZIP with friends. But here is the big question? How could I JUMPER FROM my know good GIANT or Trek. None of them are interchangeable. I would gladly BUY FROM YOU a new izip battery if I knew it would fix it ! Sorry for taking so much of your time . Paul Martin Hoover Al..
@rv10pro3 жыл бұрын
A dedicated bike fanatic who owned a Yeti Goal Zero Lithium Battery Pack mentioned that Lithium units should never be taken down to 20%. Was hoping this KZbin would have addressed a critical low threshold. Great presentation otherwise. Wonderful to learn Battery Love.
@sv650nyc73 жыл бұрын
The critical low threshold is wherever the BMS cuts off the voltage (around 3-5% of capacity). I think it's just a general rule of thumb to maximize battery life to keep the charge between 20-80%. But from personal experience with various Li-Ion powered devices, the gain in longevity does not really justify the added inconvenience of always checking you stay within that range. Check out some videos on super-charging electric cars, and you'll see that the highest charge the batteries can take is usually when the battery has between 5-20% state of charge (SoC). Those owners routinely let the SoC drop to 10%, then charge to 80% to minimize the charging time on long distance trips.
@sbdr.12413 жыл бұрын
I had my 15ah 48v battery since 2013 & put 22k miles so far I use it to commute to & from work 14 miles round trip so it’s never gone below 50% died on me one time in the summer heat riding hard for a couple hrs but still going daily
@millrlite3 жыл бұрын
Kyle, I would love to see a video about lacing a Bafang H500 or similar hub motor into a fat bike rim. I love your open swapping out the internals and you have a great series on building a fat bike from scratch. But, I would love to see you explain and build the driving part of an Ebike!
@canadiane-biker8363 жыл бұрын
I have 2 hubs I really want to lace into 19” moto rims there is one video I’ve found of a young guy doing it but without the hub motors I’m interested in more content on this also!
@lessthanahome2 жыл бұрын
I have a fat bike and mid drive is really what you want to put on it. I got a 120mm 1000w bafang mid drive with a 52v 20a triangle battery 🔋. I've gotten it over 40 mph 🥴
@tom77153 жыл бұрын
Great video. Batteries are complicated and they are expensive. This is a very important video. And do not constantly charge the battery after short rides.
@Scatterbrain703 жыл бұрын
It's perfectly safe to top off your battery even after just running a few miles.
@portnuefflyer Жыл бұрын
I charge to 80% mostly, unless I know I'm going on an "epic" ride. At as low as a charge rate as possible, depending on time of course. With 100% charges every 10 or so charges, leaving it on the charger overnight to balance. The main thing I don't is charge to 100% and NOT ride for several days. 4 e bikes,1 Sur Ron, and most recently a Ruffian electric snow bike, in my stable. All use a multi featured charger from CHI, which gives me the option of amps and percent of charge.
@marioescalona16402 жыл бұрын
Thank you. correction for balancing you also need is to discharge the battery enough so the BMS has chance to do its job properly. Only charging fully will not make the trick because the BMS will disconnect when it reached its max voltage regardless of each cell actual voltage.
@thom1218 Жыл бұрын
Max charger voltage typically == 4.2 volts per cell group times the number of cell groups in series. So no cell group will be below its max 4.2v, unless the BMS is broken and has allowed overcharging one of the cell groups to > 4.2v.
@07streetbob213 жыл бұрын
Is it ok to leave my battery on my ebike in the garage when it's hot outside (90-100 Degrees)? I ride it every morning. I don't leave it out there when it's cold.
@georgecarlinn62883 жыл бұрын
Yes it is good to keep it inside garage, after using avoid charging immediately, as both charging discharging produces some heat,
@RHDrumLessons3 жыл бұрын
The owners manual on mine (Rad bike) specifically says not to leave or even use the battery in heat exceeding 88 degrees Fahrenheit. For that reason I remove the battery from the bike when storing it not inside my house.
@1packatak2 жыл бұрын
@@RHDrumLessons yikes!! That means that with the heat we had this summer in MN there would have been 30ish days I could not have ridden (temp over 88). And we don’t have much summer to begin with.
@galacticgalaxyonezerone72352 жыл бұрын
This was better than I expected as far as I thought I was messing up bad charging it when it was still pretty full like half or quarter to make sure I can make it to work and back with all the weight I carry with me but maybe I was thinking lead acid with the battery memory I hate all these things that a gas engine will just not have like that or the cold weather granted you may have a hard time starting it sometimes but once it does it will warm up. No half ranges and power loss it gets to be like eeehhh idk if it’s really worth what they charge for these things when there’s so many touchy issues with them.
@MichaelJHathaway Жыл бұрын
In cold weather, you can adhere a small 7w polyimide heater on Garolite and place it under the battery. You will need to add a resistor to lower the temperature to ambient.
@olegpetelevitch4443 Жыл бұрын
I use a Grinn technologies charger you can charge at different levels ! Me to full charge every time for power .I have 2 batteries 1 54.6 and one 58.8 ! 1400 watt mid drive 61 clicks full suspension Loud 27.5 peddle assist and accelerator ! No probs with batteries ! and you can trickle charge !
@overcast73rx553 жыл бұрын
Glad I already put this out on my channel months ago. Even did a follow up video for all my subs.
@HornshawWoodWorks3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, all these extra clips make it really difficult to follow the video. One or two = funny, more than that = annoying.
@skepticsr_us3 жыл бұрын
Especially on top of several ads.
@novaknovakovic49003 жыл бұрын
I agree. Adding that many ads is ridiculous.
@gregeastman86093 жыл бұрын
yep, valid point!
@joewilson99623 жыл бұрын
Yup, too cute by half. I clicked for knowledge not comedy.
@davemeise21923 жыл бұрын
@@skepticsr_us Yes. Far too many ads on this clip. Fucking Google!!!
@pdxevgrin16882 жыл бұрын
Let me save you 13:25 on this incredibly long winded video on the topic ~ Lithium-Ion batteries are happy between 30-80%. If you are riding within a couple days, 100% is fine. Never store below 30% or above 80% for long periods of time.
@fallbangskid830410 ай бұрын
Your content is spot on and very informative. Thank you! The fluff was distracting....
@grazz7865 Жыл бұрын
I charge my scooter 🛴 when the battery gets to about 50%. Immediately unplug the charger when it’s done and I turn a fan on in the summertime to keep the battery and charger cool (not really sure if that makes any difference but that’s just me being cautious). And I keep the scooter out of the elements and out of direct sunlight.
@Chris-ic6bp2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the excellent E-Bike battery tutorial.... just what l needed.
@SmokeyTreats2 жыл бұрын
My new Galaxy S22 Ultra cellphone recommendation for getting the most cycles out of it's battery is to not charge over 85% & not let it discharge below 20%. There's even a setting to protect battery from charging over 85%. Also to never let it charge overnight because it'll keep topping off. My last cellphone was a S10+ & I treated it the exact opposite yet still got over 3 yrs of use, so... Nothing Burger? $600 to replace a bike battery isn't cheap, but if it lasts 3 yrs doing full cycles from 100% to near zero, it's not a big deal imo.
@rossg93632 жыл бұрын
Is there any harm leaving the battery in the bike when your not using it (is there a power draw by leaving it there)?
@pdxevgrin16882 жыл бұрын
the BMS will draw a slight amount of power. Not enough to make any sort of difference within a year of use.
@tonya91183 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!! I bought a "RINKMO 350W Electric Mountain Bike", super fast and very cheap...
@groundforcegarden4 ай бұрын
Awesome information, great presentation, technically accurate. 👍
@richardsonriki2792 жыл бұрын
Baja mystic riders support your knowledgeable videos!! U Rock!! 2022 and beyond. Gracias Amigo.
@honolulucopy77423 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great info! I can't wait for my bike to ship.
@johnballerino91729 ай бұрын
Presentation clear. Speed of delivery..nice Thanks.
@HughCStevenson12 жыл бұрын
Summary: Just use it. No Maintenance necessary. Don't freeze them.
@cathypost6022 жыл бұрын
Best way to storebattery in hot weather
@ceterisparibus513 жыл бұрын
I noticed that from head-on, and in the right light, Kyle looks to me just a _little bit_ like Paul Teutul Jr. (formally) from Orange County Choppers.
@helenHTID3 жыл бұрын
I duuno, I see quite a bit of Paul here in any condition! Don't hold back good spot lol
@paulrenfroe14803 ай бұрын
Do you cell Charger and battery for e-cell Tripe crown 52 V .The bike is a 1500 two battery two motor, 750 front and 750 rear.
@juanmontero73713 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for information
@bfoles5062 жыл бұрын
The "sponsor of the video" was funny lol awesome videos! Lots of into and entertaining. Good editing! Keep it up!
@vincenttelfer4206 Жыл бұрын
components on pcb's controlling the packs are usually the reason why the lithium packs go bad, not the 18650's in the packs
@dopeNL Жыл бұрын
Hello and thanks for your video, However I have a question about a fault I keep getting< and was wondering if you could shed some light on it? Description of fault. While riding with a so call full battery, the bike loses all power and fails to turn back on> On checking the battery after a full charge (Battery reads 39.3 Volts), You take the bike out for a quick test, and the same thing happens, all power drops and the controller fails to light up (No power). Take battery for a volt test it reads 9.0 volts (Not the expected 39 volts) Plug the charger into the battery, it intimidately reads 39 volts, (Like it has rest something in the battery, and again works as before). Take bike out after charging the battery to the manufactures recommendations, or till green light is lit. You take the bike out for a quick test, and the same thing happens, all power drops and the controller fails to light up (No power). Take battery for a volt test it reads 9.0 volts (Not the expected 39 volts) Plug the charger into the battery, it intimately reads 39 volts, (Like it has rest something in the battery, and again works as before). Any ides? Is there something in the battery house that can switch the battery off? I did open the housing and all i see are two fuses, wires to the ignition and safety fuse, and a some kind of capacitor. I have rulled out a fault with the wiring as everything works as normal once I HAVE plugged the battery in and out of the charge port, charger. ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT, Ops sorry caps lock. TIA Nico
@chaxzhoon56014 ай бұрын
I enjoy watching your KZbin videos, and you always give excellent advice. I’m interested in getting a folding E bike.Any opinion on the Velotric Fold 1? Thank you and stay well.
@rickdavis5243 жыл бұрын
In RC hobby. I use 4S batteries for my cars and trucks and store them at 3.8-3.85v per cell
@woodsculptor6753 жыл бұрын
Thanks, 'Kyle and the Gang', for another awesome video! Your tips are always informative, helpful and trusted. Keep up the good work! Looking forward to the Juiced controller upgrade.....!!!! Patiently, that is. Thank you.
@DYNABIKE13 жыл бұрын
Dude - - You ave come a looooong way !!!! Dang how many batteries could You have ?? Inventory at $ 1 million yet ??
@jimglidewell3 жыл бұрын
So it sounds to me like you are balancing the battery any time you charge it up to 100% (assuming that the battery has a BMS, which it sounds like they all do these days). Some ebike manufacturers suggest a monthly "balancing" process of leaving the battery on the charger for a full 12 hours, but it really sounds like any 100% charge leaves the cells fully balanced. Does a separate "balancing" make any sense, or is this perhaps a holdover from the days before BMS's were standard equipment on ebike batteries? Thanks as always for a great channel!
@kennethbradley2222Сағат бұрын
Very good information thank you
@jimmyguitar29333 жыл бұрын
My first ebike i had a minor accident on one of my first rides. Didnt think much of it until it caught fire and almost burned down my apartment that night! So be careful out there!
@petpen3 жыл бұрын
thanks e bike guy im gana save this video for mine to make sure im doing it right
@dilyan-29043 жыл бұрын
By the way there is something weird in your videos.. A seller explaining good and bad things about his products wow.. Very honest one.
@greenpixel5564 ай бұрын
or just use lifepo4 and you can even short it and it won't damage it, but it will damage wires etc.
@williamday37272 жыл бұрын
I seen this video when u released it. I have gad my bike scince 2020. I have charged ut jyst about everyday, i have never run it down to shutting off. I guess its in pretty good shape at this point
@freevideos0513 жыл бұрын
If the battery is low I charge to 50 % or so let cool then charge to 90 -100 % they don't like heat or cold. I try not to go below 20%. If the battery is warm from a ride let cool then charge. Never let any battery go to 0 Volts, I have fixed them by applying power to just that cell but if you don't know what you are doing it could blow up.
@matthewmaniace8175 ай бұрын
reaching out asking if there were any cells that were outdated or discontinued would be very interested in purchasing.
@liquidmidnight1 Жыл бұрын
I am impressed. Very clear, succinct and knowledgeable presentation. I definitely 'subscribed.
@TheAx5043 жыл бұрын
Great information in a world of many options when it comes to batteries..... Thanks!
@Area13ebikes3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@JoeLanzetta-bd3ze Жыл бұрын
Great information regarding e-bike batteries. Thanks for making the video! Best by far!!!!!
@travispratt6327 Жыл бұрын
Just to note the cycle ratings are usually for 80% capacity, after 1,000 or so cycles the battery will be expected have 80% capacity and it’s just an estimate of how fast the battery is going to degrade.
@lizcollinson26922 жыл бұрын
It never occurred to me it would be multiple batteries like that. Not that I had really thought about it. But although i realised it might be a number of cells, but maybe more like a solid partitioned block, but maybe cylinders manage heat better. I may Google some more.
@PaulBarwick3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Kyle. That was both informative and helpful.
@BK42Cycles10 ай бұрын
Excellent video!
@johnnaylor9668 Жыл бұрын
I fly drones so use a lot of LiPo Batteries. It’s critical never to over discharge them & let them rest (cool) before recharging. All Liposuction do a “Balanced Charge “ every time and require a balance lead as well as the main power lead to do this.. My question is how do I balance charge a LiOn Battery when there is no balance lead or function on the charger to do a balance charg ? Are You taking the battery really low to make the inbuilt Battery Management System balance each battery when in a very low state ? If so how low do you go to get the battery to “Balance Charge” ? Any advice welcome as I’m not fully conversant with Lithiom Ion Battery technology.
@bendav3 жыл бұрын
This was extremely helpful and informative! Thanks!
@lylejenkins93743 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kyle. Abaout as dimple as it could be explained.
@mycrushisachicken3 жыл бұрын
That intro was amazing
@Area13ebikes3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@meldeweese68752 жыл бұрын
Great, Thanks !
@LinkaroStrife7 ай бұрын
Great vid, thanks, and well done!
@gary-fp8rw2 жыл бұрын
I have a small E Bike. 350 motor 14” Wheel Does this include my battery? And thank you for this video. Really good.
@paulalld3 жыл бұрын
Very good lesson on battery care.
@jarikinnunen17182 жыл бұрын
9:15 Safe way to charge lithium battery is hang it above of water bucket by plastic rope which melt due fire and battery drops in to water.
@fooballyou3 жыл бұрын
HEY! WAIT A MINUTE! Show some love to the south! What about us guys in hot climates like me in Florida? I hear ya about storing the battery in the cold great icy north, but can I keep my battery on my bike in the summer in my garage down here? The temp may reach 105 degrees or so in there with no air conditioning. Should I remove the battery after every ride and bring it in the a/c? I'm guessing probably so because they say don't leave your cell phone in a locked car in the hot parking lot where temps can reach 115 or so very rapidly. Can an ebike battery handle 100/105 degrees 4 or 5 hours a day?
@davel21193 жыл бұрын
I agree! I’m in sw fl. I will be charging my batt inside but obviously be using it in brutal heat and humidity.
@exgenica3 жыл бұрын
Brad Doe said, " in a locked car in the hot parking lot where temps can reach 115 or so very rapidly." A company I worked for actually measured car and car trunk temperatures in the summer to test how to store their electronic equipment in their vehicles. This was in Central Texas on as I recall, a 100degF day. *The temperatures inside the car below the front and rear windows reached up to 180degF* The maximum temps on the seats and in the trunk were just a bit lower. It should be noted that some advancements have been made in increasing the ability of auto windows to decrease the solar energy that is transmitted into vehicles. I can only estimate the temperatures in places where the daily weather service temp might rise to almost 115 to 120degF. (remember, those weather service temps are measured in a special calibrated device that provides shade. They are not measured in direct sunlight.
@fooballyou3 жыл бұрын
@@exgenica Ouch! That's hot. Direct sun through the glass, I can see that. We don't get more than 91, 92 here in St. Petersburg usually on the hottest days. You know when you touch the steering wheel that's been in direct sun through the windshield in a closed car it can feel like it burned you. Hot, hot!
@blairtweten85963 жыл бұрын
Garage Temps should be fine but keeping in a vehicle in the sun wouldn't be recommended. A quality lithium ion cell shouldn't suffer from storage Temps of up to 50-60C.
@007bondjb Жыл бұрын
My ebike came with 3 factory installed batteries, Can I tune one off to save as a back up? Do I need to unplug it?