How to maintain Lithium batteries for electric bikes - Easy!

[@Area13ebikes]

What percentage do you charge your battery to?

[@Woodchuckk]

Always 100% for that itchy throttle thumb.

[@microMobilidade]

To the top!

[@LetArtsLive]

I probably should charge it less but I do 100%. I'm looking to buy a battery at a discount and do those blue batteries have the BMS? Maybe that's why they are way cheaper places like Alibaba. I saw a place where I could have bought the hammer bike for $750 if I waited three months. Well for people like me that will save me more than $600

[@LetArtsLive]

I don't understand why it is not possible to have a generator on your bike to charge a battery but it must not be possible or someone would have done it. I've seen people make a house fan into a generator why could you not make a bike motor into a generator and have it in your wheel?

[@dethsightgaming]

normally 100%. haven't had an issue with either of my bikes (radrunner w/ bolton upgraded controller and juiced scorpion with the off road controller upgrade). although, my scorpion does tend to "run low" on voltage faster than the battery loses power. maybe the 52v 13ah battery struggles to keep up with the off road controller power needs. not sure. doesn't really run the voltage low if i mix in some pedal assist.

[@djbastetusa]

This guy is one of the most realistic no bs about truth in ebikes

[@ohhenry5313]

he misinformed. One should never fully discharge a led acid battery.

[@MuayThaiBryan]

@@ohhenry5313 I accidentally fully discharged my 72v 50amp lithium battery, It used to charge to 85v now it only charges to 80v, the battery has only 500km on it, did I mess up the battery by fully discharging it to zero?

[@connicrow9463]

​@@MuayThaiBryanyou just answered your own question lol

[@blairtweten8596]

I spent close to 20 years in the lithium ion industry. This is a very good, informative post. There might be some minor technical issues but overall it is one of the best that I have seen. Simple and straightforward. Well done!

[@user-mq8xg5sp9c]

Shut up blair. I know you and you did NOT spend any time in that industry. Seriously come on!

[@blairtweten8596]

@@user-mq8xg5sp9c you obviously do NOT know me

[@user-mq8xg5sp9c]

@@blairtweten8596 yes I do!! We slept together 3 different times. You’ve work at Walmart for over 15 years you told me. And fyi your body odor is horrible. Fix that.

[@blairtweten8596]

@@user-mq8xg5sp9c lol. You've definitely got the wrong person!

[@user-mq8xg5sp9c]

@@blairtweten8596 try and deny it. That’s fine. But you know who you are and who I am. You need serious therapy

[@glikar1]

He is giving good advice, folks! I ride almost daily, going on five years now, on a heavy recumbent trike with the original battery. It has a 1kw Bafang motor and a 23 Ah battery. I keep it on the charger all the time. It takes hours to fully balance all the cells. I charge to 54 volts and rarely run it down past 47 volts. I take it apart yearly to check for corrosion and clean it up. The more oversized the battery you can carry, the longer it will last.

[@fritzstauff]

Does it need to stay on the charger for hours after the charger indicates it fully charged to balance? I always turn it off right after.

[@MHdollrevievs]

@@fritzstauff The Rad manual says 12 hours max.Read the manual as every manufacturer has different recommendations.

[@vigilant_1934]

@@fritzstauff When it's fully charged you take it off since it's done balancing. Don't listen to people who leave their batteries plugged in after it's done charging/balancing.

[@garycovey1842]

I really enjoyed the way in which this guy presented and explained about Ebike batteries,charging,how much of a charge to have your battery in when storing it.I was never told that your battery has a BMS installed in it.Thank very much guy.

[@LayerZeroDesign]

Charging to 100% is totally fine so long as you're going to use at least some % within 2 weeks at the most, but the sooner the better. I think for a majority of people, with modern lithium packs, degradation issues arise from improper storage far far more often than their charging practices. BMS have come a long way, as well as the cells. Basically just charge your battery, store it inside at a comfortable temperature when not in use, don't let it sit above 90% or below 10% for any prolonged period of time, and lastly maybe once a month to once every other month (depending on use) you should do a cell balancing charge where you leave the battery plugged into the charger for a period of time after it hits 100%. You better know how long to do this if your app or software gives diag info that shows individual cell voltages, otherwise you'll just have to leave it go for maybe 4-12 hours. Most chargers/BMS even once they show 100% do not actually stop charging completely. They typically drop to a very low current output, sort of like a trickle charge, and the BMS begins to very slowly balance out the cells in your pack. If you notice you don't get as much range from a 100% charge as you used to, cell imbalance is often the culprit. Although, depending on age and your care of the pack, it could just be degradation. However, even if your pack has started to degrade, if you have never done a balancing charge, you likely can get some range back from giving it a good balance charging.

[@thisspotrules3631]

Very well said! I had to copy for my eBike battery spread sheet

[@lhb4031]

When in use i do a full charge. Just before i store it in the winter after a full charge i run it down to about 3/4 charge, then i pull the battery out and bring it in the house for the winter. Thanks for the video.

[@lzwart99]

Outstanding and informative tutorial on eBike lithium batteries. This is overall one of the best done videos I have watched on any subject, mixing practical and technical information in one very helpful package. Kudos.

[@RickLaBanca]

Cold is bad for charging if below zero, but it extends the life of storing longer term. Hotter reduces life when using. The advice for charging 100 then discharge for longer term storage is right on the mark!

[@francoislepine4698]

Yep, that agrees with everything I've ever read/researched about batteries.... Summer, winter I store my batteries (2 bikes) inside my back door (where I have kind of a little "charging station" for them). Batteries don't like wild swings in temperature I've been told. Having the batts inside is also a theft deterrent for me as I keep my bikes outside, locked up on a covered deck. One topic that was not covered is HEAT!...All batteries are black. On one occasion I parked in bright sunshine on a very hot day and the battery got so hot after a couple of hours I could barely touch it!!! That can't be good. I now pay attention to where/what direction I park on such days. I painted one battery white (to match the white bike...and tell them apart). Heat caused by direct sun exposure would be less of a problem with that one.

[@rayglasscock9667]

Day after day alone on a hill the man with a flat battery keeping perfectly still, know one wants to help him they say he's just a fool with his wheels not going round and the sun going down eyes in his head sees his. Day after days (fool on the hill )great video confirms what I was told and incidental how important care off batterys I'm 68yr old pensioner running with top down cannot afford the money to join. Information spot on 👍👍🌞

[@michaeltyborski4802]

Thank you for teaching us what none of Amazon's eBike books discuss.

[@JayTheDragonKing]

this video could have been 5 minutes long with all the same info but I did find it helpful so thanks.

[@ghostfox3560]

Gotta love finding this as I approach the 21 month mark of running a 250 watt motor ebike from Nakto. To say the least the battery has been cutting out as it gets down to under 40 degrees here in South Central Wisconsin. I went from around 12-24 miles a day for the first 2 months of owning the ebike to around 2-8 miles a day for the last 15 months. It's one of Nakto's Camel bikes. Sort of crappy low end, ya ask me. But... For under $800, what can we say? Good video on the matter. Just wish it helped with the low end stuff I have. Ya know the 3 LED indicator set up kind? Yeah... They suck to no end...

[@szolanek]

I would buy from him. He can explain everything, sounding easy. Good job.

[@bobjoyner2524]

Thanks for the video . When I was looking at batteries for my travel trailer I did a lot of research that agrees with everything you said. I have always charged mine to 100% so I don't run short on rides and have not noticed any problem after nearly 4 yrs. Keep up the good work Kyle.

[@europanzz]

same here.. ive had mine nearly four years and I charge it daily..

[@Bergwacht]

@@europanzz it also has a huge impact on the lifetime how empty you drive the battery please do not drive below 20%.

[@bigdiglett3258]

Never ever only charge to 80 or 90%, such advice is actually killing battery packs. Always charge until after the light turns green for cell balancing. An unbalanced pack will die significantly quicker than it will take to run through the cell cycles

[@barneydefanfaler4760]

Per battery engineer discussion I keep my Li E-Bike battery between 20-80% for *longivity (charge cycles). I use a plug in timer (used for lights & sprinklers). It charges at 10%/40 mins. If it is at 60% I set timer for 2 hrs. I charge it to 100% once to twice a month & for the occasional 40 mile ride. *A new battery is %600.

[@paulachamberlain2396]

Thank you very much. Senior I want a e bike . Maintenance is the most important thing.😊 I learned something .

[@portnuefflyer]

I've been riding an electric snowbike, a Ruffian SEND-E for a bit over a month now. I store it in my shop, which is around 60 degrees. When I go for a ride, my thought is that the battery produces a bit of heat when discharging, so I don't insulate it or have heaters. After a ride and back in the shop, I wait a few hours before charging, and then I charge at a low rate, 2 amps. It's a 72 V/75 AH Samsung battery, and this procedure is working well for me as it has massive range, a 2, 2.5 hr ride usually shows it with 50% or more capacity left. What I DON"T do, is leave it out all night, though if forced to I wouldn't expect it to be a problem..

[@rudydelange5569]

I certainly agree, big thank you.

[@Chris-ic6bp]

Thanks for the excellent E-Bike battery tutorial.... just what l needed.

[@goldviper5280]

Thank You Kyle. You always put out great stuff.

[@bartjohnson8139]

A very informative video, and BTW, I love your shop! I owned or ran European car chops for 30 years. They were always kept clean. The customers like seeing it, you can find what your looking for, (10m socket) and it’s much safer. You obviously think the same way.

[@iancox7874]

Tesla car company claims 1,000 times the recycle rate on li-ion if we charge to 80% and discharge to only 20% (above minimal rated safe voltage) Throwing the battery into the snow.. all the antics.. made this well worth the watch! Excellent information!

[@JoeLanzetta-bd3ze]

Great information regarding e-bike batteries. Thanks for making the video! Best by far!!!!!

[@fallbangskid8304]

Your content is spot on and very informative. Thank you! The fluff was distracting....

[@wb7370]

Sir,you explained this perfectly, better than anybody else.....i needed the information for my 3 ebikes and 3 electric scooters....thank you

[@johnballerino9172]

Presentation clear. Speed of delivery..nice Thanks.

[@anthonyvega1959]

I sort of accidentally came across your channel and I'm glad I did. I was looking on your ebike site and I was looking into getting two e-bikes so that my wife can join me on rides. I am getting the bikes as a means to maintain my health as well as to maintain my weight loss. As of a few years ago I was once at my heaviest at 620lbs and a few years later I am currently 324lbs and my weight has stabilized. I would have got your bikes sooner it just I got laid off last year and I was recently recalled back to work and I'm saving so I could place the order

[@Area13ebikes]

I'm happy you found it! Keep watching! So much more fun to come

[@1packatak]

Wow!!! Congrats on that weight loss!!!!! It takes a real commitment to do that. Wishing you the best👍👍

[@anthonyvega1959]

@@1packatak thank you

[@liquidmidnight1]

I am impressed. Very clear, succinct and knowledgeable presentation. I definitely 'subscribed.

[@charlesyates6687]

My e bike battery is 11 years old and has delivered me 44'000 miles flawlessly.

[@StephenRain-v1u]

That’s great to know

[@bfoles506]

The "sponsor of the video" was funny lol awesome videos! Lots of into and entertaining. Good editing! Keep it up!

[@tonyantoniadis8767]

Excellent informative presentation. Thank you.

[@_skud]

good tips in general too. this works for all lithium ion battery devices.

[@BrentTheGent1]

I have revived many a Lipo battery by putting them on a standard NIHM charge for a couple of minutes first then onto their normal slow balance charge.

[@BK42Cycles]

Excellent video!

[@honolulucopy7742]

Thanks for the great info! I can't wait for my bike to ship.

[@cosmiccharlie8294]

I just purchased a 48v 20ah battery with premium 35e cells. Got a 3 amp smart charger to go with it. I'm sure i don't need 20ah but this way i can charge to 80% with the smart charget and get great life from it.

[@richardsonriki279]

Baja mystic riders support your knowledgeable videos!! U Rock!! 2022 and beyond. Gracias Amigo.

[@CB-RADIO-UK]

Thank you. Sound information and very clearly explained

[@michaelmurphy5444]

Interesting conversation on the Lithium battery discharge. I'll have to go back to my research but it seem Lithium batteries for an RV (solar power) vs AGM is the fact (or not) that you can only discharge an AGM to around 50% where as a lithium you can discharge to nearly Zero ?

[@Excaliburt]

Lead-acid batteries can be damaged by repeated deep discharge (more than 50%). Lithium batteries can normally be discharged to their full rated capacity (100%). Which means twice at much power. Note that this only applies to a drop-in replacement batteries that have an onboard BMS that stops discharge before the lithium battery is low enough to cause problems.

[@Cesar-cm4if]

Great tips! And something else to always keep in mind if you're ebiking is to wear an nta helmet like xnito or bern, instead of a normal bike helmet (CPSC)

[@BAAcic]

Why?

[@kokopelli314]

The battery explosion shown in this video is a Lithium Polymer pouch cell battery that's been seriously overcharged. Those are used primarily for drones, and RC cars and boats. Some do use them for ebikes because of the high C rating but without the proper balance charger, they can become firebombs.

[@overcast73rx55]

Glad I already put this out on my channel months ago. Even did a follow up video for all my subs.

[@Honeypot-x9s]

Hi, I wanna say with balancing of batteries yes leaving it plugged in can work if your battery isn’t much out of balance and only slightly. however if pack is more out of balance this may not be enough. BMS may keep protecting those lower cells too much. What you can do is discharge battery not till flat but very low then switch it off and pedal home. Once reaches green unplug it, wait several hours for the resting voltage of all the cells to be reached, like overnight, then plug it back in in the morning.. charger should kick in again if it’s out of balance because those weaker cells would dragged battery down a bit reaching that resting voltage across the whole pack. If only charged for a few minutes more, unplug it again, wait even longer, give it a complete day then plug it back in. If it keeps only charging very briefly like less then 30 mins then either cells aren’t as out of balance as suspected or there is possibly damage. 20-80% is a great range to maximize battery life. Start charging no less then 20% so don’t try to deplete it below 20% and charge up to 80% you can extend charge cycle life from several hundred to several thousand possibly 10s of thousands of charge cycles if you stick to that. Alternatively 35/100 rule I heard.. don’t discharge below 35% but charge up to 100% that will also work really well at keeps my battery running a long time.

[@galacticgalaxyonezerone7235]

This was better than I expected as far as I thought I was messing up bad charging it when it was still pretty full like half or quarter to make sure I can make it to work and back with all the weight I carry with me but maybe I was thinking lead acid with the battery memory I hate all these things that a gas engine will just not have like that or the cold weather granted you may have a hard time starting it sometimes but once it does it will warm up. No half ranges and power loss it gets to be like eeehhh idk if it’s really worth what they charge for these things when there’s so many touchy issues with them.

[@pdxevgrin]

Let me save you 13:25 on this incredibly long winded video on the topic ~ Lithium-Ion batteries are happy between 30-80%. If you are riding within a couple days, 100% is fine. Never store below 30% or above 80% for long periods of time.

[@PaulBarwick]

Thanks, Kyle. That was both informative and helpful.

[@juanmontero7371]

Thank you very much for information

[@millrlite]

Kyle, I would love to see a video about lacing a Bafang H500 or similar hub motor into a fat bike rim. I love your open swapping out the internals and you have a great series on building a fat bike from scratch. But, I would love to see you explain and build the driving part of an Ebike!

[@canadiane-biker836]

I have 2 hubs I really want to lace into 19” moto rims there is one video I’ve found of a young guy doing it but without the hub motors I’m interested in more content on this also!

[@lessthanahome]

I have a fat bike and mid drive is really what you want to put on it. I got a 120mm 1000w bafang mid drive with a 52v 20a triangle battery 🔋. I've gotten it over 40 mph 🥴

[@mitchbalko2838]

I have found that if your battery doesn't want to charge on charger. Your charger light shows green, but the battery is fairly drained with very limited power. There's a trick to get it to charge. Leave the charger plugged into the battery, but unplug the AC power cord. The charger light should still glow green.😮 Let it sit for 2 hrs then check the charger light if it's still glowing green. Plug in AC cord to see if it's red and charging. Repeat steps if it's still green.

[@Woodchuckk]

I need that 52V 30Ah triangle battery, in stock soon I hope!

[@jackjurphy5020]

I found a 52v 20ah that looks better all things considered

[@rays3995]

I got over like 20 thousand miles on my bike same battery works perfect

[@exgenica]

That is quite impressive. Are you using Li-Ion or LiFePO4 or something else? Can you describe how you use your battery? Do you charge it to Maximum voltage after every ride, 1x per week, etc. or do you charge it to a slightly lower voltage to prolong battery life? e.g. daily commute of X miles/km, weekly trips of X miles/km, occasional trip of X miles/km, infrequent trips, etc. Thanks.

[@canadiane-biker836]

Can you tell me what battery and controller and motor you are running? And what range is max for your set up? Thanks so much 🙏

[@keithmo80]

Sounds like some BS to me lol. But if so then very cool

[@rays3995]

@@keithmo80 its called a ecotric bike

[@helenHTID]

I believe you it's still working perfectly fine, But I bet you ain't getting close to it's original range! A battery pack can continue doing it's thing for as long as the cells can hold a charge, But the efficiency will diminish during that time which also means your range.

[@bendav]

This was extremely helpful and informative! Thanks!

[@gun_4_hire]

Good Lord, what a bunch of Debbie Downers in these comments... I loved the video! It was filled with super good information and was refreshingly entertaining. You definitely got a new subscriber and fan in me!

[@Area13ebikes]

The numbers of the video don't lie. ;)

[@groundforcegarden]

Awesome information, great presentation, technically accurate. 👍

[@redw0lf848]

what about balance charging? Say you have an ebike for extended period of time, and notice the performance or range has degraded, could balance charging correct this? I did not see this mentioned, whats a good way to go about this?

[@paulalld]

Very good lesson on battery care.

[@TheAx504]

Great information in a world of many options when it comes to batteries..... Thanks!

[@Area13ebikes]

Glad it was helpful!

[@matthewmaniace817]

reaching out asking if there were any cells that were outdated or discontinued would be very interested in purchasing.

[@MichaelJHathaway]

In cold weather, you can adhere a small 7w polyimide heater on Garolite and place it under the battery. You will need to add a resistor to lower the temperature to ambient.

[@tom7715]

Great video. Batteries are complicated and they are expensive. This is a very important video. And do not constantly charge the battery after short rides.

[@Scatterbrain70]

It's perfectly safe to top off your battery even after just running a few miles.

[@07streetbob21]

Is it ok to leave my battery on my ebike in the garage when it's hot outside (90-100 Degrees)? I ride it every morning. I don't leave it out there when it's cold.

[@georgecarlinn6288]

Yes it is good to keep it inside garage, after using avoid charging immediately, as both charging discharging produces some heat,

[@RHDrumLessons]

The owners manual on mine (Rad bike) specifically says not to leave or even use the battery in heat exceeding 88 degrees Fahrenheit. For that reason I remove the battery from the bike when storing it not inside my house.

[@1packatak]

@@RHDrumLessons yikes!! That means that with the heat we had this summer in MN there would have been 30ish days I could not have ridden (temp over 88). And we don’t have much summer to begin with.

[@MrAupaul]

Thanks you seem very knowledgeable! I have 3 e-bike #1 IZIP, #2 GIANT La free, #3 Trek Alant 7S The izip died with bad control panel rubber boot cover dry roted. I have be in electronics since 1966 HAWK MISSILES repair ect.. The IZIP was out of warranty plus the same week THEY WERE SOLD to another corporation. I diagnosis the problem and replaced the Capacitor that had blown apart. But that did not happen for a few months. Finally got the factory to sell me a new control panel for $300 +.. After a few more months! They were supposed to send software to update . But was not delivered. More months. I had bought the new GIANT. Never got the IZIP to show any signs of life. It was a great bike before. I suspect the battery had died. Now I started my ELECTRONIC career with TUBES! My first computer class was programing CARD PUNCH. JUMP STARTING 6 VOLT CHEVROLETS!! LOL LITHIUM IS SCARY!? I have Ischemic heart disease from US ARMY and Agent ORANGE 🍊. I ride my e bike almost every day. Would love to share the IZIP with friends. But here is the big question? How could I JUMPER FROM my know good GIANT or Trek. None of them are interchangeable. I would gladly BUY FROM YOU a new izip battery if I knew it would fix it ! Sorry for taking so much of your time . Paul Martin Hoover Al..

[@woodsculptor675]

Thanks, 'Kyle and the Gang', for another awesome video! Your tips are always informative, helpful and trusted. Keep up the good work! Looking forward to the Juiced controller upgrade.....!!!! Patiently, that is. Thank you.

[@g.p.b.]

An absolutely awesome channel that is teaching me so much! Thank you and for all that you do

[@rv10pro]

A dedicated bike fanatic who owned a Yeti Goal Zero Lithium Battery Pack mentioned that Lithium units should never be taken down to 20%. Was hoping this KZbin would have addressed a critical low threshold. Great presentation otherwise. Wonderful to learn Battery Love.

[@sv650nyc7]

The critical low threshold is wherever the BMS cuts off the voltage (around 3-5% of capacity). I think it's just a general rule of thumb to maximize battery life to keep the charge between 20-80%. But from personal experience with various Li-Ion powered devices, the gain in longevity does not really justify the added inconvenience of always checking you stay within that range. Check out some videos on super-charging electric cars, and you'll see that the highest charge the batteries can take is usually when the battery has between 5-20% state of charge (SoC). Those owners routinely let the SoC drop to 10%, then charge to 80% to minimize the charging time on long distance trips.

[@chaxzhoon5601]

I enjoy watching your KZbin videos, and you always give excellent advice. I’m interested in getting a folding E bike.Any opinion on the Velotric Fold 1? Thank you and stay well.

[@tonya9118]

Amazing!!! I bought a "RINKMO 350W Electric Mountain Bike", super fast and very cheap...

[@dopeNL]

Hello and thanks for your video, However I have a question about a fault I keep getting< and was wondering if you could shed some light on it? Description of fault. While riding with a so call full battery, the bike loses all power and fails to turn back on> On checking the battery after a full charge (Battery reads 39.3 Volts), You take the bike out for a quick test, and the same thing happens, all power drops and the controller fails to light up (No power). Take battery for a volt test it reads 9.0 volts (Not the expected 39 volts) Plug the charger into the battery, it intimidately reads 39 volts, (Like it has rest something in the battery, and again works as before). Take bike out after charging the battery to the manufactures recommendations, or till green light is lit. You take the bike out for a quick test, and the same thing happens, all power drops and the controller fails to light up (No power). Take battery for a volt test it reads 9.0 volts (Not the expected 39 volts) Plug the charger into the battery, it intimately reads 39 volts, (Like it has rest something in the battery, and again works as before). Any ides? Is there something in the battery house that can switch the battery off? I did open the housing and all i see are two fuses, wires to the ignition and safety fuse, and a some kind of capacitor. I have rulled out a fault with the wiring as everything works as normal once I HAVE plugged the battery in and out of the charge port, charger. ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT, Ops sorry caps lock. TIA Nico

[@007bondjb]

My ebike came with 3 factory installed batteries, Can I tune one off to save as a back up? Do I need to unplug it?

[@sbdr.1241]

I had my 15ah 48v battery since 2013 & put 22k miles so far I use it to commute to & from work 14 miles round trip so it’s never gone below 50% died on me one time in the summer heat riding hard for a couple hrs but still going daily

[@ironeo]

Excellent video, Thanks ! ... Liked/Subscribed.

[@paulrenfroe1480]

Do you cell Charger and battery for e-cell Tripe crown 52 V .The bike is a 1500 two battery two motor, 750 front and 750 rear.

[@douglas724]

Excellent video...very informative...new subscriber!! Thanks for sharing!

[@jp3mcpherson]

Do I plug the charger to the wall first and then to my electric vehicle?

[@mbatson13]

You answered so many questions for me, thank you!

[@deannewberry5628]

Damn you're the battery Guru I definitely subscribed and like

[@portnuefflyer]

I charge to 80% mostly, unless I know I'm going on an "epic" ride. At as low as a charge rate as possible, depending on time of course. With 100% charges every 10 or so charges, leaving it on the charger overnight to balance. The main thing I don't is charge to 100% and NOT ride for several days. 4 e bikes,1 Sur Ron, and most recently a Ruffian electric snow bike, in my stable. All use a multi featured charger from CHI, which gives me the option of amps and percent of charge.

[@alleycat1117]

Great information.Thanks for sharing your insight of battery care.

[@randygeyer3336]

Amazing timing!! Looking at electric assist cargo bikes. You answered all my questions. Bravo! :O

[@jimglidewell]

So it sounds to me like you are balancing the battery any time you charge it up to 100% (assuming that the battery has a BMS, which it sounds like they all do these days). Some ebike manufacturers suggest a monthly "balancing" process of leaving the battery on the charger for a full 12 hours, but it really sounds like any 100% charge leaves the cells fully balanced. Does a separate "balancing" make any sense, or is this perhaps a holdover from the days before BMS's were standard equipment on ebike batteries? Thanks as always for a great channel!

[@rossg9363]

Is there any harm leaving the battery in the bike when your not using it (is there a power draw by leaving it there)?

[@pdxevgrin]

the BMS will draw a slight amount of power. Not enough to make any sort of difference within a year of use.

[@timcarter7616]

It would be good to keep a record of your battery's mileage and charging cycles, get a $10 voltmeter and learn its charging curve. Charge it to 80% 4 times then a full charge once, then repeat. The meter is useful all around the shop anyway. In winter, check it and keep it at 70% and you're golden.

[@sleepingbearffg5008]

I agree. And trickle charge as much as possible. Never get hot.or run low.

[@herbboughner3944]

Thanks for the info, what voltage do you charge it to ,the 48 volt or the fully charged voltage 54.4 volts to store it at 70%.

[@timcarter7616]

@@herbboughner3944 54.4 is full, if it took 6 hours to get there, give it 20% less time on charge and read the voltage for yourself. I give mine 4.8 hours on charge and call it 80%. It isn't a critical measurement, and different batteries will have different curves due to age, actual usage and charger output.

[@dant.6364]

Very helpful information. Thanks!

[@Area13ebikes]

Glad it was helpful!

[@olegpetelevitch4443]

I use a Grinn technologies charger you can charge at different levels ! Me to full charge every time for power .I have 2 batteries 1 54.6 and one 58.8 ! 1400 watt mid drive 61 clicks full suspension Loud 27.5 peddle assist and accelerator ! No probs with batteries ! and you can trickle charge !

[@williamday3727]

I seen this video when u released it. I have gad my bike scince 2020. I have charged ut jyst about everyday, i have never run it down to shutting off. I guess its in pretty good shape at this point

[@SmokeyTreats]

My new Galaxy S22 Ultra cellphone recommendation for getting the most cycles out of it's battery is to not charge over 85% & not let it discharge below 20%. There's even a setting to protect battery from charging over 85%. Also to never let it charge overnight because it'll keep topping off. My last cellphone was a S10+ & I treated it the exact opposite yet still got over 3 yrs of use, so... Nothing Burger? $600 to replace a bike battery isn't cheap, but if it lasts 3 yrs doing full cycles from 100% to near zero, it's not a big deal imo.

[@ronsnow9457]

I have a Ecotric bike with new battery how do I know when it is fully charged ? How long does it take to charge new battery to full ?

[@gary-fp8rw]

I have a small E Bike. 350 motor 14” Wheel Does this include my battery? And thank you for this video. Really good.

[@gailjohnson6670]

Thank you for the video. Blessings in your days.

[@grazz7865]

I charge my scooter 🛴 when the battery gets to about 50%. Immediately unplug the charger when it’s done and I turn a fan on in the summertime to keep the battery and charger cool (not really sure if that makes any difference but that’s just me being cautious). And I keep the scooter out of the elements and out of direct sunlight.

[@marioescalona1640]

Thank you. correction for balancing you also need is to discharge the battery enough so the BMS has chance to do its job properly. Only charging fully will not make the trick because the BMS will disconnect when it reached its max voltage regardless of each cell actual voltage.

[@thom1218]

Max charger voltage typically == 4.2 volts per cell group times the number of cell groups in series. So no cell group will be below its max 4.2v, unless the BMS is broken and has allowed overcharging one of the cell groups to > 4.2v.

[@dsp4392]

Good content, but if I can offer two pieces of (hopefully) constructive criticism: 1. The interspersed "meme" clips are really distracting and don't contribute much; 2. The delivery is kind of slow. Feels way more engaging at 1.5x playback speed. On the positive side, I really appreciate the chapters.

[@glennsimonsen8421]

I have to agree with this. The video is 13+ minutes long and I'm pretty sure all the pertinent information could be conveyed in about half of that. But thanks for the great info!! Gotta Ride!

[@JB91710]

You did a great job with this. I have an Ariel Rider Grizzley. The chargers get very warm. Is that normal?

[@johnnaylor9668]

I fly drones so use a lot of LiPo Batteries. It’s critical never to over discharge them & let them rest (cool) before recharging. All Liposuction do a “Balanced Charge “ every time and require a balance lead as well as the main power lead to do this.. My question is how do I balance charge a LiOn Battery when there is no balance lead or function on the charger to do a balance charg ? Are You taking the battery really low to make the inbuilt Battery Management System balance each battery when in a very low state ? If so how low do you go to get the battery to “Balance Charge” ? Any advice welcome as I’m not fully conversant with Lithiom Ion Battery technology.

[@HughCStevenson1]

Summary: Just use it. No Maintenance necessary. Don't freeze them.

[@5upraCupra]

If you park an ebike in a garage without the battery over the winter can anything bad happen to the electronics?

[@kennethbradley2222]

Very good information thank you

[@Greatgadgetsgear]

So if you ride and have 50% battery left and the next day you are riding far so you charge it again to 100% is that still considered a full cycle? So is it better to fully charge deplete vs charging when only half depleted?