Put a STOP to flat tires - 5 things to know for your ebike

[@Area13ebikes]

What are the best products you've used to put a stop to flat tires?

[@timokeefe1956]

I use tannus with flat out. So far I have only had to replace tires when they get worn out. Before I used slime with tannus and had a flat but tannus did get me home. I rid 15 miles daily (unless I have to shovel snow) on dirt, desert, rough bike/walk paths, and street Tannus and Flat out have been so far bulletproof. Currently, I just use Flat Out in my Aventon Aventure and will see how that works. If I get a flat then I will install the Tannus I have. It can be an adventure installing the Tannus. I use baby powder to help with the install and also use a size smaller than the 4 inch fat tire tube.

[@rpeltier2621]

Saw a post where a person used a large, split, pool-noodle plus a 26"x 2" tube inserted into the tire and pressurized to 20 psi. Pretty much saved the tube from everything less than the thickness of the pool noodle, and on the cheap. You should do a similar test, with and without FlatOut and Slime.

[@disciprine]

Is there a difference between flatout sportsman and multi-purpose?

[@kenny6391]

I have used Tannus on 2 bikes a conventional and E-bike. I have been riding for exercise for about 4 years . Been using tannus about 2 1/2 years @ 80 miles a week. No flats.

[@rosemaryrobertson8969]

I use Tannus and Flat Out. I have not had any problems.

[@wasabi167]

That was such an informative video. I just purchased an E-Bike 2 days ago and road it the first day and woke up to a flat the next day. Definitely will be investing in "Flat Out". I watched the videos on Amazon and it shows it will fix and actually plug holes up to a 1/2" and last for 10 years in your inner tube. Thank you again for sharing and damaging your tires so we could actually see what would happen. Great Video!!!

[@ap3055]

how did the flatout work for you?

[@haydenshores9943]

I've heard great things

[@wasabi167]

@@ap3055 Worked great for me. I have had thorns in my E-Bike tires and no flats. Sealed them right up.

[@alanjohnson2853]

About 55 years ago, when I was a kid, we would take an old tube and cut it to make our own home made tire liner. Of course, that was not nearly as tough as these expensive tire liners, but back then the modern tire liners were not available. I still use the home made tire liners with Slime in the tube.

[@nohandle257]

I think you should have had the wheels on a spindle or a bike and spun them more with the Slime and Flat-out. The way you did it certainly shows Flat-out is a good product but if the Slime had been evenly distributed in the tire it might have done better.

[@agasdoc]

I agree. All of the liquid sealants work best when the tire spins AFTER the puncture and the sealant has multiple opportunities to reach the hole.

[@trailguy]

I was about to say the same thing. Rotation will definitely distribute the goo.

[@whoistheroach136]

Slime has always worked flawlessly for us for years.

[@DonnTarris]

As most cyclists hopefully have a pump with them, I'd be interested to know if adding air to the tire with slime in it would then hold?

[@MrBobswire]

Yep, got a flat from a goat head 2 days ago, I use slime, after I took the goat head out I spun the tire for the sealant works it was around and it sealed the flat, and I was on my way once again.

[@troydesbiens8605]

I have Tannus Armour liners on my Warthog fatbike and Tannus instructs to use a smaller tube with them. They also said to inflate to 1/2 of what you would normally use in your tires so if you were normally running 20PSI you would then go down to 10PSI after installing the liners. It also makes sense to use a good quality tire which will also help prevent flats. I like the idea of using FlatOut with the tubes just make sure the tubes you use have removable valves as some Presta valves are not removable ( I learned that the hard way☺).

[@mellowjammer]

I ordered a Euphree Stellar Falcon and included the option of having them install Tannus Armor liners. I asked them to confirm that they installed the smaller tubes and they said that the stock "normal" size tube for that tire was good enough and that they talked to Tannus who said that's fine. I think they were just being lazy and cheap and didn't want to get new tubes. I cancelled my order for the bike!

[@johnr7279]

I think the 'liquid fixes' would also benefit from the centrifugal force of riding. The continuous spinning of the wheel would force the hole to be filled more quickly and effectively I think.

[@metal_bloo]

For those wondering for a tire less than 3 inches the dosage of flat out is only 8 oz. Their fat tire required 16oz

[@davidwatson4510]

Thanks for adding this comment. I needed this because that is the tire size on my bike.

[@nicolesdad0]

Thanks! I' wasn't excited about adding a full pound to my tires.

[@uncrunch398]

I wonder if the recommendation is the same for Slime. 8oz for a normal bike tire, 16oz for fat.

[@metal_bloo]

@@uncrunch398 Yea maybe with more slime the slime would have worked out

[@rogerwilco1777]

@@uncrunch398 Slime is 4oz for a normal bike tire.. 8oz for a dirtbike tire.. but i put in the full 8oz Slime in my 26x4 fat-tire and it didn't even stop a tiny pin hole.. maybe it was because the hole was along the seam, on the side of the tube?, or maybe it was just a cheap tube, (bike alone is also 75lbs *RadroverV6),but either way my experience with Slime wasn't a success.. ..even 4oz and 8oz made my tire off balance.. couldn't really tell when riding, but if you piked up the back tire and spun it you could tell.. I'm a fan of not putting anything in my tubes until aft the fact, so i basically now carry a tiny air pump and an extra tube and patches.. and i also carry a tiny can of something like fix-a-flat, (something that can inflate as well).. but i only use those things if changing a tube is not right away possible.. You can get little usb portable inflators.. 30$ cheap ones are big and bulky, but they have some that fit in the palm of your hand for like 75$ and up.

[@jgentry7201]

I use Slime in my tires and occasionally notice small green spots on the treads and that shows me it works. BTW: 70 lb. Ebike, 200 lb. rider, 26" x 2.30" tires, 100 + miles per week. My point is, it works. As always, thanks for the information Kyle and Ms. Tire killer.

[@trini_boi2414]

I seen a video where the slime didn't work but after reading your comment and others I'm definitely going with the slime..btw my first flat was a pin size so I know for sure the slime would work for me..

[@kayacato-guler6495]

@@trini_boi2414 slime defo works well mate, I had a bad gash in my tire and it caused my tire to go completely flat, the slime sealed and my inner tube held out for another couple hundred miles

[@kevinsellsit5584]

Slime works but it is IMPORTANT to buy the correct type for TUBE tires! Some places sell both types and TUBELESS is a totally different formula which doesn't work well on tube type bicycle tires.

[@WorldravenNevar]

It fuckin sucks. Flatout is in another league, scooby

[@javascriptkiddie2718]

Your tires are protecting the tube not the slime. I weight a lot less than you and have had more flats than I can remember on my escooter.

[@frodar48]

I've always used slime in my tires. Where I used to live (montana), goatheads are a real problem. Just the other day I rode to the store, (a half mile each way) and could feel my rear end squirming around. When I got home my rear tire was half flat with a bright gold tack stuck in it. I pulled out the tack and pumped the tire back up to 40 psi (I have 27.5 x 2.40 tires) and after four days I checked the pressure again and it remained at 40 psi. So I'm happy with that. Though I will be switching to Flat out when and if I ever replace the tubes.

[@robmorrill1]

Just deleted my first reply. Extenuating circumstances--please disregard.

[@BenjaminWasHere]

You didnt consider a couple critical variables. First, rotation would be spinning the wheel at 10+ mph, not just "a roll" to simulate. And, taking that one more step, the rotation continues after the hole plugs. Some sealers - seal, but then with more use, they let UNseal...and the tire goes flat. You must RIDE the tire, after the hole to know if the sealer holds. If youd have done that, the video would be complete. This oversight does not take away from your channel; I discovered on your channel yesterday that there is a cable/hydrolic break caliper. I didnt know that! I knew the brakes on my ebike were below acceptable. Was going to replace the whole break system, but the kill switch is a thing ive never dealt with before, so i hesitated. Then found your video! What a GREAT idea...to move he capiper down to the breakhead! Who knew? YOU did! Thank you for that insight!

[@Remas20007]

It's ridiculous that they didn't place these tires on a bicycle, to simulate what really happens

[@Powerstroke98]

I don't believe he was trying to show a Scientific type situation, just a quick showing, thus I believe the experiment was adequate, and had me install the Flat-Out product. Now have been 2,650k and zero flats, so for the $ spent, I'm happy with it.

[@petejansen8098]

Thank you. You did the exact comparison that I wanted. I ride mostly bike paths and a tiny bit of dirt roads. I'm going with flat out for mine and my sons 20 x 4" ebike tires, period. ❤

[@thomasdipaolo2349]

This video was so timely as your video seem to be. Got a flat on my fat tire bike two weeks ago. Finally, got all the needed tools, supplies and time to repair. I did the old school. Rubber cement and vulcanized rubber patch to fix the leak. Based on your video review, for preventing flat in future, i used tuffy liners (tannus review we so so) and most important flatout sealant. Keep these type videos coming.

[@chrisgoodfellow9695]

Get video. Glad someone took the time to do this. When I got a fat bike and moved to the country where goat heads are everywhere, by Armadillo tires and Mr. Tuffys no long did the trick. Got nearly a flat a month. 7 months ago I put Tannus liners in. Hurrah! No flats... until I got two 2" nails in a tire. Tannus is great for smaller stuff and glass, but nothing prevents a 2" nail/screw from entering. BTW, I discovered that my Tannus's , which started out over 1/2" thick, compressed to 1/4" over those 7 months. So I"m goin' for the Tannus plus Flat Out. If that doesn't work, I'm switching to wagon wheels.

[@masvas1]

Part of the maintenance of the Tannus, is to actually partially deflate the tires if you won't use the bike for a few days. Then inflate when ready. It's supposed to allow the Tannus to regain its form. I've only had them for 1 month, but I'm following that rule. And I know some might think it's a hassle to inflate and deflate. But it's really not for me. I have a good old fashion bike pump, and gauge, and it's about 60 pumps to get the PSI that I want. So yeah, you're right about the compression of the Tannus.

[@chrisgoodfellow9695]

@@masvas1 I can see where deflating regularly might make a difference, however, that adds another difficulty for fat tires. Being big and kinda "sloppy" on the rim once deflated, they're prone to pinch flats every time you reinflate them if the tube has worked its way between the tire and the rim. Ask me how I know?

[@masvas1]

@@chrisgoodfellow9695 I guess I don't have to ask you how you know. Which is why I never deflate mine completely. So for example, if I pump my tires to 18 PSI, I'll deflate them till they're around 5-8 PSI. Or just some where, where they are not flopping about, cause you're right, they can get sloppy around the rim.

[@lostmic]

Old wooden wagon wheels... 😭😭😭

[@jbwjr54]

Very impressive! Was considering one one these products, and the liquid ones were always considered messy when the the tube had to come out of the tire for whatever reason. I think this test definitely shows it’s worth it for the money!

[@Area13ebikes]

Thanks for watching! So happy to hear you liked it jbwjr54

[@lostmic]

Thank you for this video I don't think a lot of people are testing thise stuff online, you might be the only one that took a science approach to it. I just got Mr. Tuffy and hope I can keep nails and screws out of my wheels because that seems to be my number one thing that's punching my tires twice a month. Thank you, you have earned my sub and thumbs up!

[@mrwilly41]

I have used Flat Out for a few years on my riding mower, my property has locus trees on it with massive thorns, I was constantly filling the tires with air. The Flat out instantly solved that problem. I haven't had a issue in the last three years. I believe that the trouble with using the product on a bike or car tire is weight distribution . The product is quite a bit heavier than slime, and could be a balance issue at higher speeds🤔

[@HDnatureTV]

Interesting... but on e-bikes like motorcycles probably not a problem with fat tires e-bikes.

[@WorldravenNevar]

😆

[@alex-sd]

As long as the Flat Out stays viscous there shouldn't be a balance issue. In fact, it should help with balancing the tire because they usually self balance with tire rotation.

[@danieldougan8550]

With all due respect when adding fluid you should the valve stem at either 3 or 9 position

[@urnie4843]

that i did not know i see why thanks

[@johndaley9188]

I'm 75 doing research on buying an etrike. Your explanation on torque and cadence is perfect and now makes sense. Finally. Thank you. For me, cadence is the right choice. Probably will need the throttle.

[@johnzinkowski6834]

Thanks for performing the test. You did a great consumer reports imitation! The results were clear and the procedure you used was fair. I appreciate the time and effort from both of you to conduct the experiment.

[@floydmeyer9736]

That Young Lady is pretty strong and very helpful!!......Her facial expressions made my day....One always needs a Happy Helper Side Kick!!

[@brianmck7363]

Maybe have her in a bikini to make the video a little more interesting!! Just saying!!! Lol…🤟😜

[@eamonn1979porter]

@@brianmck7363 creepy brother

[@ExtremePacifist]

Would using Tannas armour liner with flat out be over kill or double prevention? Tannas website recommends using smaller tubes when using their product, and they don’t list fat tires on their conversion chart. Could you install these liners on your tires that you sell as an upgrade when selling them? Thanks for the helpful info videos. Peace.

[@richhillyer3448]

Haven't run over a drill bit yet, but screws and roofing nails galore. I tell people, just like a car tire, practice changing before you need to. Patching is a good skill to learn- I keep a patch kit and a spare tube in my bag.

[@websitemaker1717]

I took the time to call FlatOut and spoke to the product manager for their Sportsman Formula. They tested it on a name brand of fat tire hunting ebike. I use it as a tubeless sealant as well and it works amazingly well. Much better than either Stans or Orange Seal.

[@Altema22]

Excellent test, and I cringed at the wood screws! Ironically, I've never gotten a flat on my e-bike after 3000 miles, but I think that has more to do with the Kenda puncture resistant tires reinforced with ceramic, Kevlar, vibranium or whatever, lol. I've rolled right over broken glass at least a dozen times, and nothing made it through the tire casing. I still put in the Tannus Armour (just in case for group rides), but it should be noted that with a fat tire e-bike, you can't ride the bike because the liner is not enough to prevent the rim from being damaged on pavement. Also noteworthy is that Slime makes it almost impossible to patch any hole the sealant can't handle. Had a friend get stranded on her Super73 when a patch, installed at a professional shop, let go because the Slime attacked the adhesive and caused the patch to fail. The Tuffy Liner helps by being more difficult to penetrate, but you never know when someone is gonna stop you and use a drill on your tire! 😉 A couple more notes about the Tannus Armor is that it does increase rolling resistance a bit, and the more pressure in the tire, the more the liner will be compressed, and the thinner your layer of protection will be. I run mine at 16PSI. They will also abrade the inner casing of the tire due to friction, but it has not been a problem so far. A side benefit though, is that the Tannus Armour improves contact with the riding surface, giving you more control over uneven surfaces.

[@OldCootProductReviews]

Did you change out your oem inner tubes for smaller diameter ones, or just stick with the stock tubes? After months and months of use, did you notice if the Tannus foam got compacted at all, or get squished from the pressure of the inner tube pressing against it for so long? 🤔

[@sote23]

Thank you so much for this video. I got an ebike in May of 2022 and commute with it to work. Since that time I have put on over 3,700 miles and got 4 flat tires all in the rear. Last Saturday I installed the Tannus tire armour and flatout and coming home from work tonight (Tuesday) I knew something was in the tire, but I couldn't tell what it was because it was very dark out. Anyway, when I got back home, I noticed a metal object in the tire. At first I thought it was a staple, but upon closer inspection it's a nail that is bent. I am so elated and thrilled that it stopped the flat. Thank you very much.

[@tomherron4334]

Great information! I wasn’t aware of Flat Out, have been using Slime along with puncture resistant tires for a couple of years and it works good against goat heads,

[@Area13ebikes]

Glad it was helpful!

[@emma70707]

I'm now rocking the Tannus armor and Flat Out inside Schwalbe Moto X with GreenGuard. There's essentially zero air in the tire, which means I haven't had to pump them up in ~6 months and they feel like the perfect firm ness with my front fork. I'm still reaching close to the top 25 mph speed on flats, so I'd definitely recommend the set up if you want zero maintenance. (That said, when I need to replace them, I might just go with Tannus's totally wireless option which is a bit simpler.) Definitely piece of mind when riding home alone late at night!

[@mellowjammer]

What is Tannus's "totally wireless option"? Did you mean tubeless?

[@oldmanandthesea3384]

11 punctures one year later and still holding air. Love this stuff. Take care and stay safe.

[@geoffreyfagan1798]

I didn't test my tannus armor against a drill bit, but I've extensively tested it against trails and it works great. Riding over a rock garden, you risk holes that are a lot bigger even if the penetration isn't as deep, and they're great for that, even protect sidewall. Also they claim run-flat capability and it's almost true, down to about 3.5 psi.

[@soulcatch]

100% agree. Bought a new mountain bike and was getting a flat about once a week. I tried slimes, thick tubes, Mr. Tuffy, etc. Nothing helped until I got tannus. I have ridden everyday for almost a year now without a single flat. Worth every penny.

[@jawsgreatwhite9966]

I just got a flat yesterday using Tannus. The bike mechanic fixing my flat couldn’t find what did it, only a micro hole in my tube. I’ll be adding flat out for sure!

[@uncrunch398]

It'd be nice to protect the tire from running too low. It's good to at least protect the rim and the tire lasts long enough to ride on as far as you need it.

[@EMNM22]

Im SO GLAD you made this video! Im interested in what really works and is a waste of money!

[@PlantBasedPartnas]

I literally just ordered some FlatOut before I found this video; I was holding my breath! So glad to see that Flat Out appears to live up to what I've been hearing. I heard that it is the brand used by the military.

[@fraserthomson5766]

I'm just about to install my Tannus inserts, a kit with their tough (slightly smaller that 20x4 inner tubes), will 100% be buying some flat out. I'm sick of repairing flats, and almost always on the rear hub motor! Thanks so much for sacrificing these tires for our learning! 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@SpamchuckersCastle]

If I’m not mistaken, I believe you are supposed to go down to a 3” tube when installing the tanis armor

[@paull2313]

You definetly go smaller. Tannus sent me a 26 x 3.25 tube

[@Pandafoo]

I bought the Tannus set for my Lectric 2.0. Cost a good amount & they provided the right sized tubes for my tires ( 20 by 2.50 - 2.95 ) However, I would not suggest Tannus because when I pulled my wheel off I noticed the liner was flat. This was not due to wrong tube size or over inflation either. I have since had the insert out of the bike and kept in an overly warm room to see if it would come back to shape. As of 4 days it is still flat. Be careful, okay.

[@jawsgreatwhite9966]

A bike mechanic informed me that you have to replace Tannus liners about every 5 years as they compress over time.

[@donvee2000]

I've been wondering what is the best solution to prevent flats. I bought Slime used it twice, and it failed me both times. First time I thought maybe I didn't use enough so I measured it perfectly the second time, and I still got a flat. After reading what Flat Out uses in it's formula I can see this stuff is no joke. Just bought a big bottle... thanks to you I'm hopeful I found the right solution. Thanks again!

[@disciprine]

decided to use flatout because of this video, got some on amazon right away. For those wondering the mfr says all formulas are the same. It's just marketing on the bottle.

[@Moving-Forward777]

They have completely mislead you. Or your Flat Out and are looking for sales. SMH...

[@cintikevin1]

I was looking for advice on the best solution for preventing flats on my e-bike. This video was absolutely perfect. Thank you for making my decision a no brainer!

[@frickenfixit723]

The polymer products were meant to seal punctures. The armors were meant to prevent punctures. If you pressed the drill in with non-rotational force (like running over a spike/thorn), they would work to encapsulate the pointed object and have the armor press into tube with the bluntness of the armor. If you pressed the drill bit in without twisting it I would have expected better results. Based on that test, you could have encapsulated the tube in 1" of steel and still drilled through it. I can press a drill bit into a thick rubber gasket and not puncture it. The moment I twist the bit, game over.

[@djbastetusa]

Keep up the good work guys. I love your channel, it’s so real. These tests were awesome. I actually pulled a 2 inch screw out of my kenda tire once with the mr tuffy liners. I was able to get home from about a mile but I was pushing it, it was 112 degrees outside so I’m sure anyone understands

[@ferguson8143]

Why would you of pulled it out then headed back home

[@diamonddbw]

Years ago I ran Mr. Tuffy on my road bike, with 115# Clinchers. It worked great, most of the time. After thousands of miles, I flatted twice. Once was a goathead, that worked it's way thru, after a week or so. The other time, I ran over the Head of a nail. It Flipped 180° and punctured my tire thru the sidewall. A definite 'Face Palm' moment.

[@q123e5]

I have been watching your videos for a bit now but this was very helpful and I bought some flat out. You got a new subscriber today

[@Area13ebikes]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@q123e5]

Thanks for your tips. I recently bought a cheetah ebike and had a goat thorn poke my front tire. Now I can get it fixed and get back to riding.

[@stonedog03]

Thanks for the work you put into this video. It really helped me out in choosing an "anti-flat" solution! I had never heard of "flat out" which is too bad because it obviously works!

[@desertdave5491]

Good video. I installed the Tannis Armour inserts about 4 months ago ( I used talcum power to help with the installation) after 4 flats on my 26x4 tires due to goat heads (thorns). So far, good results. No flats and I ride 30-50 miles per week. So, good outcome for me, and I’m confident in this product. Having to deal with the mess of changing a tire with any of the liquid tire protection products is not a great experience, and many shops will not help you out with a tire change if the know you have the liquid product in your tire. Important points ro consider.

[@orionxavier6957]

I used FlatOut and it worked for awhile until the tire went completely flat for some reason when I left out at night. Putting air into it resulted in the sealant pushing itself into the tire and creating a gap, which pushed the tire off the rim and made a huge mess.

[@OldCootProductReviews]

So on your wheelset, did you change out your oem inner tubes for more narrow ones, or just stick with the stock tubes? After months and months of use, did you notice if the Tannus foam got compacted at all, or get squished from the pressure of the inner tube pressing against it for so long? 🤔

[@desertdave5491]

Stock inner tubes...Tannis is not a spray in foam or liquid. They are a rubberized insert that goes between your tire and tube. Not cheap, but I have had a very good outcome using them. D2@@OldCootProductReviews

[@dbro2712]

Thank you! I was gonna do the slime, but now I'm going to get the Flatout.

[@Originalxlander]

If you do liners or layer of tubes. I would recommend using talcum powder between all layers. (use at your own risk you've seen the lawsuit commercials) Using it keeps the tire from gripping your tubes and slicing valves when you hard brake. ... If the tires slip on the tube the tube stays in place.... 20k miles on my homemade bike are how I learned this.

[@phaedruscj3330]

lol Putting talcum in tires is far removed from using talcum on your privates for 10 straight years

[@Originalxlander]

@@phaedruscj3330 yeah I just put that in there because I don't want some Internet fool saying I told them so, and doesn't warn of the risks.

[@richardburguillos3118]

That was Flat Out informative. I’ve always used Slime. Guess I’ll be changing. Hate having to pump tires up with that stuff as a little always seems to come out and make a mess. Yes, I try to spin tire so valve is high on wheel. Can’t do that with a RadWagon that has the rack and plastic shield so I’ll probably have to use my Handlebar Jacks and flip the bike just to put air in it….

[@robmorrill1]

Highly recommend against. Fan of the channel, and based on this vid I put it in both of my Himiway's tires, and it totally messed up the ride. You're putting liquid in the tires that flumps around with each revolution. Maybe fine for bigger vehicles, but I really regret using it on bikes based on my experience.

[@richardburguillos3118]

@@robmorrill1 Huh, never thought of that. With Slime that as he said uses less I never noticed any affect in my Mountain Bike. Now putting in twice the amount, who knows. I never used the stuff on road bike, just replace tube with a mew one of it gets a flat and if I run out of tubes on a ride I’ll patch one to keep going.

[@alex-sd]

That flat-out was impressive! I use Ride-On for my motorcycle and wouldn't ride without it. They also have one for bicycles but I've never used it.

[@KevinJHough]

I used Flat Out....this test makes me happy and secure. I have a patch kit for each of my bikes both pedal and e.

[@fozzsr]

I've got a Catazer solid Airless tire on my ebike. It gives a bit of a rough ride, but it CANNOT fail. Love it. 😁👍

[@46B3x2you]

I put Slime or other tire sealant in every tire tube before I even put it on the bike. This is the first time I've heard of FlatOut. I'll have to check it out. The night before Christmas eve (2021) I was shopping and got out of the store and my back tire was flat. 26 x 4.0. They don't roll when they're flat and I was 5 miles away from home and it was in the low 20's, a little cold. Luckily I already had the sealant in the tube. I always carry a palm sized CO2 tire inflator and a handful of cartridges in all my backpacks. I pumped it up and hit the throttle to get the sealant moving in the tube and I was off and running. That sealant was in the tire for months. The heat of summer, freezing rain, snow, all the conditions I can think of and it was there when I needed it. I haven't tried the Tuffy liners but maybe now I will. I bought a pair of the Tannus liners and I haven't tired them yet. I'm with you. The slime or something similar like FlatOut is the first, second, and third line of defense. A combination of all the other products will just add to it, and cost more. Great Video. Thanks. And Happy Holidays, Stay in motion.

[@steve_main]

You guys didn't even give these a proper test. With the slime and liquids you have to let the tire spin so the liquid/slime is over the hole and will leak out it. Also you need to reflate to 20psi to see will it hold. Also you put a screw into it when the psi was like 0 so the liquid wont work. if you are going to test a screw put it at 20 PSI again and test to see it works

[@alexisluna8740]

They were spinning the tires lol. That’s how Flat out was able to seal up the holes

[@steve_main]

@@alexisluna8740 They spun them a bit but did not look like they did them properly. Like the one they saw it come out then just left the hole facing up with air coming out. You have to let the liquid come out over and over and over again.

[@steve_main]

@@alexisluna8740 Forgot to mention that also remember the puncture would occur where the liquid is, at the bottom of the tire so as soon as the nail or what ever pulls out there would be tire slime/liquid right there to fill the hole with 20 PSI also pushing it out through the hole. Just observation is all. they still made it work by using it in a not perfect test so that speaks volumes also to the product and how well it works with just a couple rotations of the tire.

[@disciprine]

I mean, flatout won anyway so if anything it'll perform even better.......

[@Irwin5315]

Exactly they had the hole at the top and not spinning

[@RideTannus]

*Awesome review!* Tannus Armour offers 15mm of puncture protection against sharp objects. Stop bike flats!

[@aen45basshunter96]

I use flat out myself after using slime cause flat out claims it seals bigger holes It seems like it works after your test.

[@dougstobaugh376]

Thanks for your educational experience and resources and support for the best way to decide on protecting your bike tires from going flat. God-bless.

[@margyg]

This test is all done with fresh sealant. You should try it with the Flat Out or Stans, Orange Seal, and the like after 2 months. I live in the desert southwest and those sealants dry out. Even Stans & Orange Seal say they need replaced more frequently in hot & dry environments. To avoid this, because cleaning it out is a pain, I would rather carry your battery operated airpump and a small single use/single tire, bottle of sealant for emergencies. I also run Tannus Armour and so far not a single flat riding on desert dirt & rocket roads where normally I would have regular thorn punctures.

[@Ranger4444]

So I can tell you FlatOut will last longer than any of those sealants you mention. FO is the only one on your list that contains zero Latex. If you are installing in a tube, the FO will last years. Kelly with FlatOut.

[@rossbrumby1957]

The problem with slime type sealants, once you get a puncture that still needs a patch, the patch never sticks properly once the slime has been around the hole- you just can't clean it away properly. Rather just get thicker tubes and patch them less often than thin ones. Bought a secondhand greenspeed with plastic liners in the slicks, they caused the thin tubes to split along the liner's edges.

[@NFAslan]

Once you add slime or flat out, can you ever check the tire pressure again? I’ve heard it will plug up the valve stem and also possible ruin the tool being used to measure pressure…

[@steven0837]

Flat Out is what I've been using for awhile now. Works everytime for punctures. My ebike has four filled punctures. All you need is air and your are on the road again. I've seen test results of 5 to 10 years stable. 3rd year for me. Also found youtube vids testing several brands and Flat Out was the best All around. Good for either tube or tubeless. I suspect it's good for any size tires.

[@Area13ebikes]

That is a great testimonial of what you have experienced. Thank you! We do offer portable bike pumps to help add air too. :)

[@robmorrill1]

Have you not noticed issues with the liquid flopping around in the tire? I noticed this immediately.

[@steven0837]

@@robmorrill1 No issues. That is the prefered state. I've seen other's like fix-a-flat and slime that have hardened after a couple of years and don't role well. Also, how much did you put in? I put 4 good squeezes in my 4x20 and I don't hear anything, never even thought of it until now. Sometime ago, I found youtube videos of someone who tested 5 different brands I thought was well done, guess which performed the best? Good luck

[@mdl12151959]

I put Tannus liners on my Sondors LX and the set came with smaller inner tubes. The valve stem was loose in one of the new tubes so I had to order a valve stem tool to tighten it. So when I wheeled my bike back to its normal spot in my garage about 12 feet the tire with the tannus liner uninstalled it self in a matter of feet. That's with no 12lb battery installed or me on the bike. So for the claim you can ride it slowly flat, you can't even walk it, I'll say no.

[@HDnatureTV]

Tannus website say No Run Flat for 4" wheels.

[@GaryGiffin]

I use Stans Tire Sealant. Its white and works just like slime but not green. I use to fill the leak until I get home to repair it. Alway keep an extra bottle in my backpack. Easy!

[@mariopiazzolla9105]

Plus you can use the easy applicator. Just take the balve stem out and put 4 ounces in a 26”c4” tube put stem back in pump the tire up a go for a ride.

[@GaryGiffin]

@@mariopiazzolla9105 Yes my local Mountain Bike shop sells only "Stan's Tire Sealant" . No need for the Green slime mess on your hands and bike :)

[@jimwortham8634]

Thanks for posting guess everyone has different opinion I work on Friends electric scooter quite a bit have had very good luck with slime

[@EA0422]

Glad I saw this video, I am picking up my Aventon tomorrow, day after Labor Day holiday. I was going to call them and have them install the tannins liners , after this video I think I will buy a bottle of FLATOUT and see how it goes, local bike shop wants $125.00 per tire to install liners. I think I’ll save the $250.00 to buy other accessories. Thanks for all your hard work, Your videos and podcast are informative as well as entertaining.

[@sorijin]

Got my first flat on my Sur Ron and just ordered this product, they should sponsor you guys, there's even a top Amazon review citing this video!

[@MrDkgio]

Flat out Works like a charm! Just had a flat, 3” nail I didn’t notice until this morning, nail was in top of tyre when I parked up (fat tyre Ebike) removed nail, faced hole to floor pumped up the tyre and all good.

[@mousermind]

What a lovely assistant you have. She certainly added some fun to the video!

[@JohnCBurzynski]

My wife ran over a sheet metal screw about 2 months ago. The tire went flat immediately. I added 8 oz of slime and she has been driving it with no loss of air ever since. That convinced me to add slime to all our tires.

[@xtremefight]

I've been a huge fan of Flatout for years.

[@brianb.7435]

Do you think that Flatout be good to use on hybrid bike tire at a pressure of 60-70psi?

[@paull2313]

I'm glad the shirt fits and it is goood looking

[@Area13ebikes]

Thanks Paul! Super cool shirt!

[@growell8832]

I've always trusted Slime for years and the only problem I encountered was when I let it sit in the valve stem. It set up and wouldn't allow air to pass through. But all I had to do was pull out the stem and clean it off and put it back. Lately I've had problems with the Slime setting up in the bottle before I could put it in the tube. Stans stays liquid longer but it still will thicken up, I'll have to look at Flat Out I like the longevity of it. I'm currently running Mr. Tuffy liners and Stan's with and mix of Slime. I only did the mix because the Slime thickened up tot he point I couldn't get in into the tube so I had to add Stan's to finish it off.

[@Z_question]

Home Depot "Orbit UPC 2 in. x 50 ft. 20 Mil PVC Pipe Wrap" $5.24 a roll it is thin and fits perfect. Nails, Screws, Thorns glass and more. it's made to protect under ground pipes

[@notme9172]

Amazing video! Thanks!!! And remember: Tannus Run Flat Capability (If you do get a flat tire, you can still ride for a limited period of time*) NOTE: *EXCLUDES FAT TIRE SIZES

[@beardannyboy]

You have a lovely assistant.

[@turbobuick86]

Thanks for the informative video. I would suggest supporting bike and weight off the tire you fill with sealant and then re-inflate. The weight of the bike kept the tire bead from seating at the top. Simple solution to keep from having to do it twice.

[@williamday3727]

Was so glad to go back and see this video. Put Tannus Armour in with the FlatOut. My tire is shit cause waiting on the slow boat from China. Caught to objects this morning (Aug24) . Pulled em, out the air charger on and the tire stopped leaking. Stuff is fabulous

[@Area13ebikes]

FlatOut is AMAZING

[@jamesgretsch4894]

I use Gray PVC Shower Pan Liner Roll from Home Depot. I cut it to size and install. This stuff is tough and makes tires puncture resistant.

[@WildBillRidesAgain]

He didn't mention that the $140 on the Tannus is for two liners and the two smaller tubes you will need to use depending on your application. Also on my Rad Rover they quieted the tires down substantially. People don't turn around because they think a tank is rolling up on them anymore. The roll is much smoother and softer going down the road. Oh yeah, it also stopped the freaking goat head punctures I was getting. The Slime I was using before also worked for the goat head punctures but I would have a load of little small green liquid dots on the tires next day when I got back from a ride. But it plugged/sealed them.

[@MadfugginMax]

Ty for this, very informative i was wondering what to toss in my cyrusher tires an flatout seems legit. You saved me a bunch of 💰

[@Mr69elco]

I've had over 40 bullheads in my tires since I used Flat Out and still no flat. I love this stuff.

[@brianmorgan5880]

I google searched for "bullheads". The top search results say that it's a fish.

[@Porkchop1967]

I must insist you continue to have your lovely assistant in all your videos. She adds so much to your channel.

[@kenharvey9714]

I was considering buying Mr Tuffy, but after seeing this video, I'll be sticking to slime for the time being, then I''ll be using flat out. Thanks for the video.

[@LeMortso]

Love your shirt! (I"m more of a WWII warbird fan but love aeronautics!)

[@cryptokids3760]

Mr. tuffy is my jam. Just that and some easy patches. Rarely have to use the patches, but when I do, I usually don’t even take the rim off. Way fast for my back tire

[@cryptokids3760]

A lot of times the nail or whatever sharp item will not make it through mr tuffy. This happens because the tire is spinning and the material is so hard. I ended up getting sick of the slime and never went back

[@deridionentertainment]

THanks Guy Im Buying Flatout on Amazon right now. Im throwing out my slime and glad i didnt wait my time buying the armor

[@howardsimard7197]

Great video Kyle thanks for all u do for the e bike community .

[@Area13ebikes]

Any time! I love what I do!

[@sirbrewzalot]

It's weird that Flat Out doesn't market itself for bikes. On amazon someone asked and the seller even says: "Our product is not designed for mountain bike tires." Still, I'm getting a can for my fat tire in case FedEx ever decides to deliver it.

[@williamwilhite9193]

I carry a can of fix a flat for bikes, but since I watched Bolton's blog I'm going flat out also.

[@HDnatureTV]

Just got mine today in LA - it ran a few days late.

[@sirbrewzalot]

@@robmorrill1 Thanks for the heads up.

[@HDnatureTV]

@@robmorrill1 - what size are your tires? We're running 26x4 flat tires.

[@robmorrill1]

@@sirbrewzalot Turns out I was wrong. Please disregard above and see my reply to Kyle.

[@iallso1]

I am a somewhat irregular cyclist these days, but about 15 years ago after getting a flat quite a long way from home on a trail, I installed an inner tube with slime pre-installed in it. That tube lasted until August this year. Unfortunately the slime got into the valve and prevented the tyre from being inflated, but apart from that I hadn't had an issue with it.

[@groovr22]

Very informative video. Thanks..! I just ordered a bottle of Flat-Out for my new E-bike

[@paparentman]

I put in the Tannus liners. About two months later I had to change my tire out because it got ruined dragging on the ground. Not while riding. That’s another story. What I did find is my Tannus liners compressed to not much thicker than an innertube. We will see how that works out. I do believe I’m going to get flat out to put in the tubes. I’ve been using slime for a couple years. And then I got leaks from the tube containing slime. I ended up cutting open the tube with the slime in it and found that most of it had dried out it and was no longer slimy. It would be very interesting for you to have that tube with Flat Out used and then a year later take the tube out, cut it open and see what it’s like. I don’t think I would purchase the Tannus liners again. I’d be more likely to use the Tuffy liners with the Flat Out. Those tiny little thorns have been the bane of my riding existence this last winter. Thanks for the video.

[@HDnatureTV]

Maybe you overinflated your tubes. Note Tannus wants 3" tubes on 4" wheels and recommend 10-15 PSI... DID YOU DO THAT?

[@paparentman]

Yes.

[@heathbarclay105]

Tannus does not work it shrinks down to 2 mm .Had a fleet of bikes do it the product is crap

[@thesetruths1404]

Today I changed rear tire on a Ridstar q20. It was easy. The tires come off and on the rim very easy. I had a tire that must have been leaking from the seam over 36hrs. In the tire I installed a double layer of cheap Amazon tire puncture film. BTW, if the bike sits on its back for 4 weeks like mine did, the brakes may not work unless ya pump them, a lot. Be cautious. And the cheap liners ($20) did not self-adhesive like I presumed they did. I had to use double-sided tape to hold them in place. I think any kind of fast drying rubber glue would also work.

[@Grevlain]

SOLD!! Flat Out...one thing. Does it really add a pound to each tire? Kinda a lot of weight to add to a bike?

[@dave9456]

Awesome, you have just saved a heap of people a lot of time and money Good for you guys 👍👍

[@Area13ebikes]

Our pleasure!

[@carlosmartoral6268]

Is flat out good for tires with tubes or is it just for tubeless tires?

[@Pandafoo]

I have flat out in both of my bikes - Lectric and Rad mini 4. Works just fine in tubes. Use 8 - 12 oz per tire.

[@billzertuche8841]

Jessica responded to my comment , made my day

[@Area13ebikes]

Awesome! We like that you're watching and getting involved. It's so much more fun!

[@ricomon64]

I'm legally blind, so I can't see debris on the road, but I sure hear a lot of glass and metal under my buke tires when I ride. In the 1500 miles or so that I've been using Mister Tuffy liners and MultiSeal Flatout, I've never had another flat. After your video, I might even stop buying the liners for my bikes.

[@Dodgevair]

Do 100% urban commuting. Ave 1 flat per 2 wks. That dog won't hunt. And that was with the liners and slime. Purchased a set of 16" motorcycle tires, tannus armor and smaller tubes. Hope that resolves the issue. Awesome shirt..

[@derykmacleod4979]

I don't care for the goo, have had multiple issues with the valve stem getting clogged and unable to add air and unable to get the valve out without soaking it in warm soapy water to dissolve it. I use tannus armour for the last thousand miles and knock on wood other then blowing out a sidewall, no flats

[@mjsmjs7905]

Just about all slime products are garbage.

[@disciprine]

curious if this happens with flatout since it remains liquid.

[@alleycat1117]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge!! 👍

[@spyder998]

How do you prevent the valve stem being clogged by Slime or Flat Out if you're adjusting tire pressure?

[@clothedandcompetent3452]

You dont adjust tire pressure. You set it and forget it. If you have to do anything after that, the slime is no longer working and you need a new tube.

[@ElliotMcDonell]

That's a lot of Slime in that bucket! Guess you use it sometimes, Bolton? What about the weight consideration, 2x as much Flat Out required so it's more weight, correct?

[@brandonmcmillan8820]

Love the video! Any idea when the upgraded rad power controllers are going to be in stock?

[@rvgrandmacharlotte4604]

wow - great testing. I see a video where a guy put that liner in his tire, then put the flat out in the inner tube.

[@Thomas-yr9ln]

I would have the hole shabang the tire liner but don't want to go to that much trouble so the flat out will do. Thank you for the video.