How to Protect Your Electric Bike from Theft

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Propel

Propel

Күн бұрын

In this video we cover many different ways to lock up and secure your bike to protect from potential thieves. Having a shop in Brooklyn, we know that New York City has one of the highest percentages for bike theft in the country. Electric bikes are expensive so we want you to have the best possible knowledge on how to keep your bike safe.
More information on Abus Locks and accessories here: propelbikes.com/brand/abus/
TIMECODE:
00:00 Introduction to Electric Bike Locks
01:11 Insurance in Addition
01:50 Abus Granite X+ U-Lock 540
02:20 Security Ratings
04:20 Abus 140cm Chain Lock
05:00 Abus Yourplus One Key for Multiple Locks
06:20 Abus Folding Lock
07:15 Abus Alarm Locks
08:31 Frame Lock
09:23 Modern Bike Security
10:50 Locking Strategies.
12:48 Securing Front Wheel
13:06 Hex Locks
15:32 Fixed Clamp for Seat posts
16:26 Handlebar and Stem Protection
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@tom8181
@tom8181 3 жыл бұрын
martial arts
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 3 жыл бұрын
Lol! Love this!
@Crunch_dGH
@Crunch_dGH 2 жыл бұрын
Does bikeregistry^com help reduce theft or at least increase recovery by deterring police from auction profiteering?
@BobRooney290
@BobRooney290 2 жыл бұрын
a hidden gps in the frame, and a gang of buddies to hunt down the thieves.
@buddy1155
@buddy1155 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me think of a joke: A guy parks his bike a put a note on it: _"don't steal my bike, Mike Tyson"_ When he gets back, his bike is gone and there is a note: _"I don't care, Lance Armstrong"_
@OGWishborn
@OGWishborn 2 жыл бұрын
funny you would say this. Because I came to this video looking for a way to better secure my eBike when I'm parking it in front of my BJJ school during class lol.
@evanwindom3265
@evanwindom3265 3 жыл бұрын
Use a chain. Attach one end to the bike, and the other to a Rottweiler.
@pugmalley
@pugmalley 3 жыл бұрын
Easiest way to any mean dogs heart is their appetite. Imagine some good meat will win them over.
@tpacalypse
@tpacalypse 3 жыл бұрын
@@pugmalley 😂
@tpacalypse
@tpacalypse 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@Debbiebabe69
@Debbiebabe69 3 жыл бұрын
Modern thieves carry spray to deal with dogs. You need to be thinking tiger.
@BobRooney290
@BobRooney290 2 жыл бұрын
people be laughing. shits a great idea yo. seriously. i prefer a doberman for a quick throat grab takedown. rottweilers are fat and slow and are prone to hypothyroidism. in any case, send in the hounds!
@bigmartin
@bigmartin 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately bike theft is a scourge here in Dublin (Ireland) too. I'm lucky, I'm a soldier so I have secure bike parking in work, but I won't leave my motorbike or bicycles anywhere in the city with any confidence. Love your video's
@reggie69.
@reggie69. 2 жыл бұрын
Yupa also a cyclist in dublin
@bigmartin
@bigmartin 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisprice5895 yes, lot of them
@who346
@who346 Жыл бұрын
And you shouldnt have that fear either. Its frustrating and sad. Its suck an easy crime to fix. I dont think the justice system is working anymore. Too lenient judges and sentences.... it will fall back on the citizens...we know who is stealing the stuff 99% of the time.
@raspberrybitch4299
@raspberrybitch4299 Жыл бұрын
@@who346 Dude, the problem isn't "lenient judges" it's the material conditions making it necessary for desperate people to steal bikes. Remember, most criminals commit crimes of desperation, not malice. Don't get angry at judges for forgiving criminals, get mad at politicians for not doing more to stop the cause in the first place.
@weezersthebluealbum9479
@weezersthebluealbum9479 Жыл бұрын
I’m from Belfast but living in the North of England at the moment and I live right in the middle of the city centre, someone left a bike outside of my flat and when I was leaving for work in the morning a few days ago, I swear I saw someone with some bolt cutters interacting with it, I get back later and it’s completely gutted, wheels stolen and everything. I’m glad that most times I’m cycling it’s just to work and I’m able to store it in our warehouse.
@mikeowen3478
@mikeowen3478 4 жыл бұрын
Great “Propel How To” format: thorough explanation; excellent close ups; just the right duration. And lots of top tips. Cheers!
@tsmith3139
@tsmith3139 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff again, Chris. A thorough explanation of bike security and locks.
@HerrenGamingNews
@HerrenGamingNews Жыл бұрын
If you put the lock anywhere in the Triangle your frame and tire will be protected I recommend a U, cable and a chain combo. Not only will it be protected but the looks of having multiple locks will deter most thieves especially if you're in an area that's open and that has high foot traffic. I do agree with taking the batteries with you if you're going to be gone all day.
@slindsay4784
@slindsay4784 2 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful. Sad we live in a society where we have to constantly be concerned about things like this.
@stefanhryniszakhryniszak8365
@stefanhryniszakhryniszak8365 Жыл бұрын
Thief is the 2nd oldest profession.
@phototristan
@phototristan 2 жыл бұрын
I got a motion sensor horn alarm which can be armed just like a car alarm. At least if I lock it in a crowded area and someone attempts to move my bike, the alarm will sound. They also make cheap disc brake alarms with motion censors as well. Motion sensor alarm is good for ebikes since sometimes people just end up trying to mess with your controller or screen, etc.
@RB-sr1oc
@RB-sr1oc 4 жыл бұрын
Good tips. When locking downtown Detroit, I use two heavier duty Abus locks that use different keys - or 1 that is combination lock and 1 that is a key. One will secure frame and rear wheel and the other will secure frame. I try to make sure both are off the ground so as to not provide a leverage point. Then I cable the front wheel and seatpost to one of the Abus locks. I need to explore the locking thru-axles as well as Hexlock or similar for my stem and controller mounts.
@jimodriscoll5531
@jimodriscoll5531 4 жыл бұрын
Very good information Chris, thank you.
@davidhurtado2725
@davidhurtado2725 2 жыл бұрын
Chain. Wheel and frame to a solid and unmovable object. That first shot of just locking the frame, gave me the creepers.
@karlschwab6437
@karlschwab6437 4 жыл бұрын
Lots of good ebike security here Chris, thanks. It is sad that we have to do all of this, but that's the way it is in many areas. At the end of this video, you mentioned a bike cover. On one of my large motorcycles, there is and I have, a partial cover that I put on my motorcycle when I park it in some places. This cover, hopefully, will prevent an adult from putting their small children on my motorcycle! So maybe a cover of some sort, would help here too. I have a folding ebike; wonder if there is an additional problem with securing it; maybe something else I could be doingin addition to what has been presented here? Keep the good info coming, Chris!
@ourcolonel1685
@ourcolonel1685 Жыл бұрын
Your suggestion of a cover is very smart. Even a tarp would work. Out of sight is out of reach.
@randygeyer3336
@randygeyer3336 2 жыл бұрын
In the past we used Pinhead for wheels and saddle post instead of quick release. They require a spacial key to open. The hexlock sounds great!
@napilopez
@napilopez 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. As someone who has e-bikes in Brooklyn, the winning formula of security+convenience is: Good U-Lock + good folding lock+motion-sensing alarm. My current setup doubles up on the alarm Abus 770A SmartX U-lock with Alarm (rear wheel+frame+rakc) + Abus Bordo Alarm Folding lock (front wheel and frame+rack) Previously, I had a non-alarm Abus U-lock with the alarm bodo, and that worked too. So far, nobody has so much as even tampered with my bike or its components so far. That can of course change, but so far, here's why I prefer it to other combos: -The alarm(s), in combination with heavy-duty locks, is a good deterrent. It won't stop a dedicated thief from going for your bike in isolation, but it will make it not worth it for opportunistic thieves to try to steal things like pedals, lights, accessories. They are very sensitive, so any slight motion will trigger a warning beep, and and few seconds of motion will cause it to go off. -The Alarm Folding lock combination with the U-Lock is super versatile. One hidden benefit is that if you remove your seatpost, you can slide the folding lock through your bike saddle's rails or cutout to secure your saddle and seatpost. The combo allows me to secure the rear wheel, front wheel, frame (twice on most racks), and saddle. Everything else gets deterred by the alarm. -I originally tried two U-locks, but it can be difficult to get the front wheel and frame with a single lock on my bike, let alone the rack or the seat/seatpost as well -A chain + alarm U-lock might be better, but that's significantly heavier for (imo) not that much more security(if a thief is willing to work through a loud alarm, a few extra seconds with a chain lock won't help that much. It also doesn't allow you to secure your saddle and seatpost. -It means I don't have to use pins, which adds a bit of convenience for repairs and adjusting saddle height.
@algrayson8965
@algrayson8965 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the alarm call your cellphone? I used to have a car alarm that would set off the remote alarm that I carried with me. Before the cellphone era.
@briananderson6142
@briananderson6142 3 жыл бұрын
@@algrayson8965 Watched a video of someone in New York on a busy sidewalk grinding through a lock on a bike locked to a pole and everybody is walking by as if nothing is happening and the guy walked away with the bike. Replacement insurance on a $10000.00 bike is about $500.00 a year and UP depending on where you live. New York maybe $1000.00 a year.
@Debbiebabe69
@Debbiebabe69 3 жыл бұрын
@@briananderson6142 seen videos like that in many cities in the UK. People dont intervene because they know the thief's mate stood next to him will be carrying a knife.
@briananderson6142
@briananderson6142 3 жыл бұрын
@@Debbiebabe69 $10,000.00 E-bike in Canada cost $500.00 a year to insure as a rider on your home policy. There is no lock that can be the ultimate with the new battery power grinders that can cut through ANY lock in seconds. The batteries need to be GPS trackable just like your laptop.
@Themanfromglad
@Themanfromglad 4 жыл бұрын
Good to go over all types for e bikers, as there are so many choices. Great Propel video as always.
@mick0matic
@mick0matic 2 жыл бұрын
I have a ringlock on the back and use a chainlock through my frontwheel, frame and a bikerack. I wrap the chain around the seatpost so it doesnt rattle. All in all takes about 30 seconds to park. Very informative vid! :)
@ydarbnhoj
@ydarbnhoj 11 ай бұрын
Excellent. Comprehensive. Very useful. Thanks!
@SNOWDONTRYFAN
@SNOWDONTRYFAN 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree that if one buys a very expensive R&M Supercharger GX etc, you shouldn't skimp on a cheap lock, i have pitlocked all the wheels and post on my own bike, and do have some slight reservations with my come with the bike Abus Bordo lock which is medium risk , so like i use it for out and about town use, but when touring abroad i use a Litelok gold standard Boaflexicor strap
@kevinkelleher9323
@kevinkelleher9323 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Toronto and have an expensive road bike (Pinarello for 20 yrs) and never turn my back on it and bring it into my home when not in use. Bike theft here for decades has been so bad that it is nearly impossible to park a bike outdoors. Here, the standard method of theft is angle grinders. I fail to see here or anywhere, a functionable anti-grinder lock. Also, it seems pretty crazy to buy a $3-6,000 bike that is lightweight and then carry around a lock which weighs a quarter of the total weight of the bike.
@tompaah7503
@tompaah7503 4 жыл бұрын
I retrofitted my R&M Supercharger with a Abus 5750L frame lock and a chain that fits in this lock. All mounted on the special mounting bracket from R&M for this specific bike. This way I have the same key for all of my bike; for the batteries, for the existing Bordo 6000 folding lock and the new 5750L. It feels super luxurious to have the same key for everything.
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great way to go! We generally recommend people do something similar on their bike. It’s a simple setup that offers pretty good security. Happy riding!
@leojonkers3181
@leojonkers3181 4 жыл бұрын
Good vlog. I am from Rotterdam, The Netherlands. We have a lot of secured places were you can park your bike in central town. For free. So that is step one, put your bike in the safes place possible. Lock the bike to the earth I always say, so they can not simply walk away with it. Always take your Intuvia control off, always! If you travel with two people you also can lock the bike together. Abus makes good locks. Now there are so much e-bikes in my country, that steeling batteries is getting bigger. I own a seven years old Sparta e-bike with the battery in the luggage rack. With the same lock as the lock you showed us. But I do not trust that so much, with a big screwdriver you can break it out. So I made a little whole in the part where you carry the battery in our hand. Put a little small lock trew it. Only have to do that one time, when I put a full battery on and open it when I want to reload and take it off. Off course there is no way to protect your bike 100 %, but take a little care where you park your bike and how you do that.
@myohmymads
@myohmymads 3 жыл бұрын
This is solid advice, however thieves in Germany are hella motivated to steal bikes. Basically, they are getting advanced and if they can't cut through your lock, they cut whatever your bike is attached to and make off with it. Depending on the city you're in, your bike can get stolen even in broad daylight from crowded places. A colleague lost a beautiful, expensive e-mtb like that :( Insurance is the way to go if someone wants to be covered 100% :)
@fbyi2940
@fbyi2940 2 жыл бұрын
@@myohmymads i wanted to own an ebike because of no insurance....fck
@BasilBear
@BasilBear 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful info, thanks.
@Lintary
@Lintary 2 жыл бұрын
Some basics to keep in mind: Cafe locks make sure the valve of the tire is right next to it, this means it would break in common means to force those locks open. Make sure no matter what lock you use make sure it is away from the ground this makes using bolt cutters harder. Anything 10mm and below chain wise is not bolt cutter proof, those 6mm insert chains into the cafe lock are easily snapped, but still combine it with a good U lock layers of security matters. With that you have a cafe lock that is broken would lead to a flat tire, a small chain that could be a hindrance to some one without bolt cutters and a U lock that would require an angle grinder. Of course there are other means to open these like picking I am sure we all love our lawyer friend, but picking is not a common attack and anything that is decent will do. The spreader and nut cracker to be used against U locks and folding locks respectfully again are not to common. Most theft is rather low skill, however if you have a really nice branded E-bike they do enter a territory of targetted theft like motorbikes and cars do. This means they are stolen on order and at this point very little is going to stop that from happening, so yeah insure your bike, cause end of the day if some wants your bike, they will take it.
@frobozzdingle5602
@frobozzdingle5602 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for this ...so much great information
@chrischavez7956
@chrischavez7956 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah great job thanks for all the knowledge
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris! Glad you enjoyed!
@canadianlady777
@canadianlady777 4 жыл бұрын
I loved it...Well spoken, clear and concise...Keep going....
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support!
@jseden
@jseden 2 жыл бұрын
I ride a motorcycle and live in a fairly high risk area. First off, I purposely ride a bike that isn't that desirable to begin with.. a rebel250. I use two heavy kryptonite u locks and installed an alarm on the bike. It makes a lot of noise if bumped. I've had three bikes stolen in the past but so far, so good with this one.
@shadeslanding
@shadeslanding 3 жыл бұрын
Great video - thanks!
@realityblooms
@realityblooms Жыл бұрын
another excellent vid.
@jaywagner3111
@jaywagner3111 4 жыл бұрын
Great concept, great video, great details. I use a link lock, U-lock, cafe lock and cable. Don't live in a really high crime area. The biggest issue for me is that when I ride with my friends who own acoustic bikes, they do not lock at all. So when we stop for coffee, they have usually ordered and finished by the time I get my bike secured! 😀
@Timnmoss52
@Timnmoss52 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! Would you recommend a disc brake lock?
@juannoval69
@juannoval69 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Chris. Very informative and glad you covered so many options. I would suggest try to think like a thief whose focus will be crime of opportunity. Of course, if a thief wants your bike then an axle grinder will get the job done quickly but the options and locks you featured will make your bike less appealing. Especially if you can lock your bike in a more secure area while at work, i.e. parking garage, and indoors at night. 😁
@algrayson8965
@algrayson8965 4 жыл бұрын
@edwong3 - A U lock that is too big for a bolt cutter less than a 48" giant one to get its jaws on is good.
@BolaAkandeJourneywithbola
@BolaAkandeJourneywithbola 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for your video. Not cycled for a while because I'm concerned about bike theft in London. But feel more confident now.
@renek82
@renek82 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I will use the hexlox axle and bolts.
@Kand1nSky
@Kand1nSky 3 жыл бұрын
"Abus measures their locks in centimeters..." @04:18 not only Abus, the whole world do ;-)
@h.s.levine2932
@h.s.levine2932 3 жыл бұрын
Do it really?
@PaulMansfield
@PaulMansfield 3 жыл бұрын
People in the USA converting to microfurlongs
@Aurora_1407
@Aurora_1407 2 жыл бұрын
@@h.s.levine2932 Yes, it do 🤷🏼‍♀️
@StudioLB
@StudioLB Ай бұрын
Not really
@dallasdandigitalproduction393
@dallasdandigitalproduction393 2 жыл бұрын
Good vid. Never heard of hex locks before, but sounds secure. I use a steel pvc pipe clamp for my quick -release front wheel; fastens down the clamp to the fork. Abus U-locks are excellent in Dallas, and helped me keep my Diamond Back MTB for 6 years. So far so good.
@susancecere8524
@susancecere8524 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your information.I am purchasing a 2500 Ebike expensive for me. I planned on getting a lock, but didn't know anything about the best types. At home I have a garage, but I wanted to go to the markets.
@giaved33221
@giaved33221 3 жыл бұрын
Informative, good vid.
@Hexlox
@Hexlox Ай бұрын
Hi guys! Just a quick thanks for the presentation of Hexlox in this video!
@manp1039
@manp1039 3 жыл бұрын
i like to stick old inner tube over the ulock.. it provides a little scratch and dent cutioning and also hides what is underneetch. I would also cover up any displays of company names of locks by some black tape.. Or even could create confusing by putting a different lock name or logo on the lock than what it is.. but i prefer to just camaflauge the bicke as much as possible.. there are some good techniques on doing that in a book on urban cycling.. it is called urban camaflauge.. using the dark greys adn black.. non shiny surface.. could even use dark olive green colors.. cover the bike. cover the shiny parts with non shiny tape etc etc etc. and for the seat post you can use a cable trhouth seat that winds down to the frame with a lock.. and also can put a discrete non shiny seat cover over seat and wrap duct tape around the hex lock or quick release. It may liook kind of crummy.. but will reduce the threate of attention from thieves.
@chris53small
@chris53small Жыл бұрын
very helpful thank you
@djschultz1970
@djschultz1970 4 жыл бұрын
Great video on bike security, You covered all the basics like everyone, and then you added a dozen other little details like battery, handlebar, fork, hex locks, quick release wheels, etc. Myself I am most interested in battery security, as many of the really good batteries (52 volt, 21 amp hour or higher) for sale in CA and NY have zero security. They just sit in a triangle frame bag or held on the downtube with magnets, and can cost almost $1000. Easy targets for thieves. So perhaps an idea in the future is to make a video on ways to secure those types of batteries on DIY builds and conversions.
@_SeanB
@_SeanB 4 жыл бұрын
I personally plan to remove my battery whenever I go into a shop. I'd think ebikes would be less desirable to steal without the battery
@Debbiebabe69
@Debbiebabe69 3 жыл бұрын
even worse, batteries are the easiest bits to resell, just open them up with a hack saw and remove the cells, when people buy cells off ebay there is no way of knowing where they came from - there are plenty of legit people who buy masses of scrap electronics for the batteries (when I say masses im not exaggerating... there is one vid out there of a guy who buys THREE PALLETS of scrap laptop computers just to salvage the cells!)
@FourMaxK1
@FourMaxK1 Жыл бұрын
Very good! Just purchased two EBikes and have been exploring security options. Well done.
@shinyobsessed1271
@shinyobsessed1271 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps two different types of locks (both angle grinder resistant) used concurrently would provide the best protection. A motion alarm to initially attract attention to the thief might help as well. Sucks to have to carry the extra weight and go to all that extra trouble and expense, but it's risky enough as it is to leave one of these bikes unattended for more than a few minutes. Def take the battery/seat with you when making that delivery or grabbing your latte.
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 3 жыл бұрын
I think although annoying this is a good strategy for sure. I just hope we eventually get better bike parking.
@jatteam8615
@jatteam8615 10 ай бұрын
Add a tracker like the Apple gadget. Easily concealed.
@frostjack5456
@frostjack5456 9 ай бұрын
​@@jatteam8615that won't help a whole lot, it's not going to prevent a theft, and police will have a hard time acting upon any information gathered from it, due to a lack of precision and reliability.
@AllDogsAreGoodDogs
@AllDogsAreGoodDogs 4 ай бұрын
Or use Pinheads for the removable stuff (seat, etc.)
@DIGGINGRICHMOND
@DIGGINGRICHMOND 3 жыл бұрын
Great video...great info... Thanks for the time you put into this review.
@G1manime
@G1manime Жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍
@rickt1951
@rickt1951 Жыл бұрын
Great advice for bike owners and thieves lol.Thank you.
@damiantovar5393
@damiantovar5393 2 жыл бұрын
What type of protection would you suggest for the Riese Muller Roadster?
@richardshaw4713
@richardshaw4713 3 жыл бұрын
Great and easy to understand overview - as always. Thank You.
@moony2703
@moony2703 Жыл бұрын
One of the nice things about having an ebike is that while the extra expense makes you more wary of it being stolen, the fact it’s an ebike means you don’t have to worry about the extra weight of heavy duty chains as much. My biggest issue is probably going to be where to put for convenient access where it won’t rattle as much. XD Last time I tossed the chain on top of a jumper in the top of a back pannier which fixed the rattle problem, not sure if that’s a workable long term solution but maybe, since I’ll be taking off and unrolling the pannier top when I stop anyway. I got a front basket and back panniers because I liked the look of the baskets even if panniers were more practical for me so I bought one of the original three baskets, but in retrospect I’m thinking a small front bag for convenient chain storage, since I have a step through bike so attaching anything to the frame in the middle is limited. Also got to figure out the water bottle holder at some point but currently my commute is short enough to not need quick access to one and I’m currently trying to get myself comfortable with water bladders in general so I’m using that instead, as I’ve never been able to put my faith in them on bushwalks ever since I saw my Dad’s leak, so riding in town is a good way to practice confidence and get familiar with my own water bladder backpack, since in town I don’t have to worry so much about potentially getting stuck in the middle of no-where in the stinking hot heat with no water in sight if something goes wrong like I would on a bushwalk. (I think I saw his water bladder leaking at home and he fixed it so he was fine but I’ve never trusted water bladders since.)
@theepimountainbiker6551
@theepimountainbiker6551 11 ай бұрын
I like the lock with built in alarm. I have an alarm tied on the bike, works the same. Bike moves the alarm goes off like a car alarm. Always always use a Ulock combined with a steel cable or chain around the tires, quick release tires are a dumb idea on a commuter bike imo. Best part of ebikes is lock weight is not much an issue unless its on your back.
@ahmesceanga6382
@ahmesceanga6382 2 жыл бұрын
15:50 is that a seat Shock absorber system you got there ? If yes, where can I find one ?
@josep6600
@josep6600 3 жыл бұрын
Does the cafe lock work for a 20" wheel and 4" tire. I have a Mario ebike close to a Super 73 style
@JohnnyC10071959
@JohnnyC10071959 Жыл бұрын
Links to hex lock parts would be helpful
@tvalenzuel
@tvalenzuel 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have the link for Hex lock to purchase?
@igorsantos-yv1kd
@igorsantos-yv1kd 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot 4info
@robvanderspek
@robvanderspek 4 жыл бұрын
Any tips to secure a box cover on a cargo bike? First thing to get stolen from our Urban Arrow.
@miel2argent
@miel2argent Жыл бұрын
Have you looked into the 529 Garage bike registry sheilds? That's a huge help with proving theft and getting the bike back after theft.
@MaxFleye
@MaxFleye 3 жыл бұрын
I wont feel safe until force field tech is perfected.
@MrMusic55123
@MrMusic55123 2 жыл бұрын
Is it better to lock front or rear wheel, front comes out quickly but rear has the motor which is expensive
@cognitiveweightcontrol8163
@cognitiveweightcontrol8163 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I understood. Were you saying that attaching a chain into a cafe lock still isn't very secure or did I misunderstand?
@RichardPomisel
@RichardPomisel Ай бұрын
I have watched several videos testing bike locks. No one has actually done the tests under ALL of the following conditions. 1. Use portable grinder popular with thieves. 2. Include in the tests the time to change out blades and batteries on the portable grinders. In real life that time would add to cutting the locks. 3. Locking the bike locks in a more realistic scenario wrapping the rear wheel, frame and bike rack. 4. Additional second or third lock wrapping around front wheel, frame and bike rack. 5. Steps to take if you encounter thief while in progress.
@KatharineOsborne
@KatharineOsborne 2 жыл бұрын
I got a Brompton folding ebike specifically so I could take it with me instead of having to lock it up somewhere. It’s a little heavy to lug around but it’s doable.
@theepimountainbiker6551
@theepimountainbiker6551 Жыл бұрын
I use a Ulock, since my front tire is quick release I wrap a steel cable around it and through the ulock. If Im in my city downtown core I'll also use a steel chain. I also have a alarm set off by vibration to attract attention. Even somebody minding their business locking their own bike to the same rack will set it off, its quite sensitive.
@josephperreault4988
@josephperreault4988 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see alarm system if circuit is broken when u-lock is cut by any means.
@AmigaA-or2hj
@AmigaA-or2hj 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve welded “number plates “ complete with with postcode, region and date. I’ve also engraved the postcode on the frame, too.
@edism
@edism 3 жыл бұрын
You keep saying this, no one is going to run a plate check on those plates. They're silly and pointless. BTW A1200 rocks.
@Debbiebabe69
@Debbiebabe69 2 жыл бұрын
problem is, thieves arnt after the frame. Your frame will probably end up in a river or drain. Its the forks, derailleurs, cranks, wheels, suspension, and for ebikes - electronics and batteries, that the thief wants. Indeed thieves have been known to beat 'angle grinder proof' locks by angle grinding a gap into the frame and feeding the lock(s) through the gap.....
@EnriqueCubillo
@EnriqueCubillo 3 жыл бұрын
Could we see some actual grinder tests on protection products? Duration resistance time. How fast will a grinder cut these products or not at all? I've heard hardened steel one need a torch. I'd be interested to see how fast grinders eat into all the products you have demonstrated here thank you.
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 3 жыл бұрын
That’s an interesting request. I’m going to look into seeing if we can accommodate that. I definitely think it would make for interesting video
@chewsir
@chewsir 3 жыл бұрын
Just search for the videos. Trust me-you'll find them.
@plantpowered269
@plantpowered269 2 жыл бұрын
I think LPL had some Abuse locks angle grinded
@meibing4912
@meibing4912 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to modern tech there's nothing - nothing - a modern grinder can't cut in a couple of minutes - max. Sad but true. Better try combinations with passive e-protection, however thieves have already found a way around this as they will put the stolen bikes in a "cooling box" - think an off-path shed or backyard - for a couple of days to see if anyone "pops up" to retrieve their stolen bikes. If you are lucky and quick you may be able to find and collect the bike yourself. In Denmark a pro thief showed off his skills on TV one day. If the lock is too difficult to cut at once (due to placement) they just cut up whatever its locked to instead!
@KineticSymphony
@KineticSymphony 2 жыл бұрын
@@meibing4912 Not true, the Altor SAF ulock is so thick and hardened, it takes over 30 minutes and multiple grinder plates to cut. It's as fullproof a lock as one can get these days. Bug it's MASSIVE and costs $300.
@BeccaBearSc
@BeccaBearSc Жыл бұрын
I use 2 combo cable locks to lock my cart wheels to the cart frame. Have the cart cover locked down with bungee cords, hve a vibration alarm in the cart. Have a U lock on each wheel of the bike (lock them to the frame) then have a vibration alarm on the bike, put the battery and helmet in the cart. Have the cart cable locked through the wheels of the cart to the wheels and frame of the bike. The seat can only be removed with an allen key. Have things ziptied to the frame, stickers (reflective on the bike) have photos of the bike and me on the bike regestered online, getting a custom headstock cap with my name, have GPS tracking (Ordered). any other tips. theres no post at work to lock it to.
@michaelkleinberg269
@michaelkleinberg269 3 жыл бұрын
I think the best kind of security is an alarm that texts you and a thick U-lock
@michaelkleinberg269
@michaelkleinberg269 3 жыл бұрын
@@whazzat8015 when you get a U-lock that is at least 18mm thick like the Kryptonite fahgettaboudit mini, this lock cannot be removed with a bolt cutter, but the other most important thing is an alarm that can TEXT you when the bike is disturbed so that you can get to it before anything can happen, time is the most critical factor!
@richardlistwon4758
@richardlistwon4758 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I get the alarm that texts you? Many lowlifes around here too !
@jseden
@jseden 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardlistwon4758 I'm interested as well. I've got a normal alarm that's saved it at least once and always use two heavy U locks. Denver has been getting BAD recently tho.
@SeekerGoldstone
@SeekerGoldstone 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like getting a text after my bike has been stolen is less than helpful.
@michaelkleinberg269
@michaelkleinberg269 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeekerGoldstone The bike should not be stolen if you have an 18mm U-lock plus the alarm protecting it!
@effluvium9
@effluvium9 4 жыл бұрын
I travel with a U lock and sometimes a heavy chain (both the yellow New York kryptonite locks) when I know I’m going to be locking for a long time. I’d like to point out the fact that during a single trip you might have segments where you do a quick lock job, and other segments of the same trip where you do a more detailed lock job with two or more locks. You do need to consider the fact that in those quick lock situations, one or more of your other locks that you have with you could get stolen, so you want to guard against that by securing the other locks to the bike somehow when transporting them. Lots of little aspects to think about when carrying multiple locks.
@effluvium9
@effluvium9 4 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting because a chain might be a more attractive thing for someone to steal than a U Lock, since the chain could be repurposed with a new shackle but the u lock is pretty much useless to steal without the key.
@curthott1317
@curthott1317 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a link for the Hex Lock?
@jtpinion4294
@jtpinion4294 Жыл бұрын
Always used motorcycle locks on any motorbikes and bicycles I've owned. A nice solid D-lock usually is good in ok areas of the UK, but when living in London, have always used a really good chain and a D-lock even on a heavy motorbike especially when visiting shady areas of the uk. For bike jackers, they have had a different experience but I won't go into them details ;)
@IgorAlbornett
@IgorAlbornett 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Chris. Quick question: What is the model of hexlox that fits the Suntour Fork?
@Bicycle_tv
@Bicycle_tv 4 жыл бұрын
Good bike! 👍
@seamusobyrne7845
@seamusobyrne7845 Жыл бұрын
thanks from a confusing dope presentation
@kingkelz215
@kingkelz215 2 жыл бұрын
Do fingerprint-based locks offer worthwhile protection? Also, as a side note, I'm gonna get a folding cargo e-bike, and would imagine that if locking outside is necessary, folding then locking with a lock large enough to wrap around parts not next to each other when the bike is unfolded would be highly beneficial, plus a cover and alarm system.
@rydellster
@rydellster 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative & helpful points on bike security. I’ve often thought of getting a tiny go’s tracking device that utilizes a SIM card. You brought up a good point about the fact that police might not be able to help you even if you’re standing in front of someone’s closed garage and saying “my GPS security device shows that my bike is in there.” Never thought the police wouldn’t be able to help. Also almost for laughs I’ve been hiding a “Tile” on board my e-bike. Of course one depends on other persons utilizing tiles to passively report the location. But now with Apple’s version I would think since many many millions of persons everywhere use IPhone that their new “airbags” might be quite a bit more effective. Just a thought.
@amigajoe
@amigajoe 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, because of Apple’s anti-stalking design, a tile is actually less likely to be detected by the crook. I understand why they did it, but it makes it so much less useful as a theft recovery tool.
@InventorZahran
@InventorZahran Жыл бұрын
@@amigajoe There's already a huge black market for AirTags that have been modified to make no sound, but that won't matter if the thief carries an iPhone and gets notified that there's an AirTag following them.
@InventorZahran
@InventorZahran Жыл бұрын
@@amigajoe Also, Tiles (and other Bluetooth-based tracking devices) can now tap into Apple's Find My network, granting them the same locational accuracy as AirTags.
@Mackdez
@Mackdez 2 жыл бұрын
I really like to lock the wheel in the frame together that's why you lots of best for me, it would be the same if I had a electric bike because of it being rear wheel drive. Now when you get into the fat bikes you have to use a chain or a folding lock because the wheel is so thick. Maybe with the plus size like 29 inch tires.
@thefrub
@thefrub 2 жыл бұрын
What if they used the same material as chainsaw chaps, where the bar is covered in fibers that tangle up and jam up the grinder?
@Fluoressence
@Fluoressence 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure this would work quite as well, the chainsaw has joints rotating parts that make contact with the fibers that can actually jam. Whereas a grinder is just a spinning wheel that only makes contact on the outside where no vital components are that would stop the grinder from functioning. Seems the investment in adding this protection to a lock wouldn't even be worth the added security nor would it be very helpful. Mind you this is just my speculation.
@cwitham69
@cwitham69 3 жыл бұрын
Well done & informative report/review Chris thanks! Question how do you have an eBike store in a city that has outlawed ebikes (NYC)???
@kippen64
@kippen64 3 жыл бұрын
They haven't. You have to be 16 years old or older but they are not outlawed. Just did a Google search.
@tomherron4334
@tomherron4334 4 жыл бұрын
LockPickingLawyer and Bosnian Bill have some great videos where they review the security of bike locks. Many of the Abus models are highly reviewed by them.
@14mattomatto
@14mattomatto 3 жыл бұрын
yep, large wiper insert and a click out of 1 and 5 seconds later its open
@HeathenRides
@HeathenRides 3 жыл бұрын
Most people doesn't have the skills like The lock picking lawyer and the one's who do are usually not bike thief's and that's Good but yes no Lock's are secure, you should use a combination of locks etc and not be away that many minutes.take your Bike inside and lock it next to your bed (Yes i actually do that)
@chewsir
@chewsir 3 жыл бұрын
The LPL videos are entertaining, but that's about it. The vast majority of locked, stolen bikes are those that were cut through with a tool-by a tool.
@plantpowered269
@plantpowered269 2 жыл бұрын
@@chewsir this is not just a bike, but a bike which costs over $8000, which makes it more tempting than a usual bike, and LPL also does bike chains and locks angle grinding.
@buddy1155
@buddy1155 2 жыл бұрын
I love that channel! fortunately his skills are rare.
@copmy
@copmy 4 жыл бұрын
What if you lost all of your keys? You will have a busy days to get all of the locks opened! Cheers! Good video. Thanks!
@idk-vx9fz
@idk-vx9fz 3 жыл бұрын
They have key coverage so if you lost your keys they can send new ones and there is also 2 keys included so have one of them in home.
@TheBrainSquared
@TheBrainSquared 3 жыл бұрын
In areas where bikes are most commonly tied up at, there is usually a look out close by looking for anything worth stealing. They will check the bike out, then take a picture and then give their buddies a call, explaining what bike locks they are using.. This all happens with in a span of a few mins, and I have seen cases and witnessed it myself where they will even cut what ever your bike is locked to, having a car or a van near by they will carry the bike fast to their vehicle and your with out a bike... This can happen with in the time your walking into a coffee shop or a corner store..
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 3 жыл бұрын
This is really unfortunate and the real pros will find a way to steal just as they can rob a bank. The best bet is good locks and insurance.
@bostonvair
@bostonvair 8 ай бұрын
There's a company in NYC (I believe it's based in Brooklyn) that has these bike "garages"... I believe I learned about it from one of your videos. I even contacted the company through their website asking if they had any plans to expand to Boston. I can't for the life of me remember who that company is or what their website address is. Could you refresh my memory? Thanks!
@jelleterpstra65
@jelleterpstra65 2 жыл бұрын
I have put a taser inside tbe barhendles, for the rest the bike is locked on a chain mounted in the stone wall and nou i lost the key and have to wait when te battery is empty for tough the stering.
@gregoryburkhead7813
@gregoryburkhead7813 4 жыл бұрын
Good video .. did anyone ever used velosurance? It was bad reviews on them
@serryjanewinkler5406
@serryjanewinkler5406 2 жыл бұрын
This info is terrific BUT...what does a senior do that is planning on buying a $3K eTRIKE?
@yotagang3705
@yotagang3705 Жыл бұрын
i use an alarm and a kryptonite lock, but at the end of the day nothing beats an angle grinder. A more expensive one might take longer but it’ll be cut down. I just try to lock as close to the door and if possible I have to be able to see the bike through the door.
@MarkLoves2Fly
@MarkLoves2Fly 4 жыл бұрын
What happens if someone drills the joints on the folding lock? Is there protection against a drill bit?
@evanwindom3265
@evanwindom3265 3 жыл бұрын
The lockpickinglawyer has a great video showing how to defeat those with two simple hand tools.
@f00zh
@f00zh 2 жыл бұрын
just bought 400 dollars worth of locks and chains to protect my $20 Walmart bike. thanks 👍 bro
@APPLEPIE978
@APPLEPIE978 2 жыл бұрын
My advice is get a long chain and thread it through one of the tires and frame. I know a guy who would just lock his frame with a Ulock and a thief used an angle grinder to cut through the guard rail pole he locked it too. At least with a chain lock, it will be flopping around and its harder to cut with an angle grinder. Also threading it through a wheel means they can't just cut though what ever you're locked too.
@johnlopez5531
@johnlopez5531 3 жыл бұрын
I carry an arc welder with me everywhere I go and weld the frame to posts.
@Debbiebabe69
@Debbiebabe69 2 жыл бұрын
easy to beat, just angle grind away the section of frame that is welded to the post. Thieves dont care about the frame, it just gets thrown in a ditch. Its the hardware, and for ebikes the electronics and batteries, that the thief wants.
@butch3715
@butch3715 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting Cargo Bike. What brand is it?
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 4 жыл бұрын
It's a Riese and Muller Load 60 :)
@jerumd
@jerumd 3 жыл бұрын
Try Altar SAF U-locks! I use em all the time for my Yamaha urban rush pedal assist E-bike and it works! They have attempted on cutting one but unfortunately for them. They couldn't cut the damn thing all the way and i have two of em to protect my investment Lol! This U-lock is an angle grinder resistant type U-lock just in case you're wondering..
@Propelbikes
@Propelbikes 3 жыл бұрын
They look pretty cool, but I’m not sure how practical they are given the limited amount of room in the lock opening.
@jerumd
@jerumd 3 жыл бұрын
@@Propelbikes My urban rush isn't even that thick to fit two of em. And besides, I think they're not meant to be bringing back home because of their sheer weight. I leave two of mines in my locker at work. There's no way am bringing two at home with that much bulk and weight in em lol
@JohnCBurzynski
@JohnCBurzynski 2 жыл бұрын
I will not go into the city with the bike. Car jacking is a big thing, can bike jacking be far behind?
@monkeyrun
@monkeyrun 4 жыл бұрын
this is very helpful, but I am still not parking a $5000 bike on the street. even if they can't steal it, there are chances they'll do some damage to it.
@algrayson8965
@algrayson8965 4 жыл бұрын
Steal parts off of it. Or vandalize it out of frustration. Put gentian violet inside your tubes so that if some vandal slashes your tire or twists a valve stem off, it will blow the gentian violet on them. A bike cover made of bulletproof vest Kevlar cloth.
@oliverwagunaere1697
@oliverwagunaere1697 3 жыл бұрын
🤦‍♂️
@leojonkers3181
@leojonkers3181 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, also possible. 2 big hits and it will cost you a lot of money. A 5000 dollar bike, park it in a secure place. Not for 10 minutes, but longer, not go with a expensive bicycle.
@maxim7415
@maxim7415 3 жыл бұрын
Get insurance if it’s a 5000 dollar bike.
@maxim7415
@maxim7415 3 жыл бұрын
Why get a bike if you can’t park it on the street
@All4Grogg
@All4Grogg 3 жыл бұрын
Hexlox is a very expensive solution to a simple problem. Most been bolts can be replaced with security hex types pretty easy, including QR skewers. Hot glue in a bolt head is easier still, but relies entirely on the thief not having seen that before. Pinhead and similar are the nuclear option, same price as hexlox but harder to defeat. Just make sure you can adequately torque everything, especially wheels with disc brakes!
@HarryLovesRuth
@HarryLovesRuth 4 жыл бұрын
When I bought my GSD from REI, I really wanted to get an ABUS chain that was keyed to my battery. After the local REI staff spent a lot of time on the phone with ABUS, I was told that if I wanted an ABUS chain keyed to the bike, I would need to buy new lock cores for my battery mounts. I decided to go to a locksmith and buy the heavy duty-est padlock that could be keyed to my house key and paired it with a big ass motorcycle chain. I also took the cafe lock off. It is key retaining, and that's just a pain in the ass. My intention has been to get a set of hexlocks and a replacement skewer for the front wheel. Are you selling hexlocks through your website?
@algrayson8965
@algrayson8965 4 жыл бұрын
House key keyed locks are easy to pick IF lock picking thieves infest your area. Most thieves around here are smash-grab-run types.
@plantpowered269
@plantpowered269 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you will keep feel safe, just don't ever go to LPL channel to see any padlock in existence picked from 5 seconds to 1 minute time.
@HarryLovesRuth
@HarryLovesRuth 2 жыл бұрын
@@plantpowered269 And you can watch him pick an Abus lock in two minutes. What is your point, exactly?
@plantpowered269
@plantpowered269 2 жыл бұрын
@@HarryLovesRuth that leaving $8000 bike on the streets is not advisable regardless of a lock
@HarryLovesRuth
@HarryLovesRuth 2 жыл бұрын
@@plantpowered269 So I should never use my bike for transportation because someone might steal it. Sounds like a plan.
@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549
@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 2 ай бұрын
I sometimes rent road bikes in Cape Town, they always tell me “you dont need a bike lock here, you just need to take the bike with you everywhere you go”
@macbec3021
@macbec3021 2 жыл бұрын
I think than removing the battery from the ebike has a lot less value for a thief. Is the dealer or the supplier can help you if someone will request a battery for your stolen bike
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