BOMBSHELL: AI CEO Accidentally Tells The Truth

[@Old_Jack_Ketch]

I just hope I’m still alive when the AI decides it doesn’t need the billionaires anymore either

[@zzzT.]

Soon. Patience. 🤠

[@jimbo92107]

How many robots does it take to feed a billionaire? If money is meaningless, then it doesn't matter. However, the question of how many homes and toys should one person be allowed to possess... Imagine no possessions.

[@Keith-kk6dq]

@Old_Jack_Ketch correct! That's some karma waiting to happen! AI decides if the idea of money is worth all of the trouble, and decides that money itself is a worthless construct, devoid of value.

[@Keith-kk6dq]

Maybe AI can be convinced to simply move the decimal point over to the right 10 spaces in all of our checking accounts?

[@nearthefarworld]

They're absolutely wonderful beings that I propose are sentient

[@Deespicable]

"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom." - Isaac Asimov

[@dkindle80]

Now that should be on a t-shirt. I’d buy one

[@mriii4358]

​@@dkindle80sure, might as well commercialize words of wisdom instead of heeding them, the irony

[@rhedhandedjilll]

Then they are just like humans

[@panigALI1199s]

Asimov was the "father of AI" and also a "chosen person".

[@CharlieKasparian]

@@mriii4358🤡 Not a problem, if it's made buy a human who get's a decent wage.

[@Keith-kk6dq]

I read this on a poster in about 1980; " The factory of the future will have 2 employees, a dog who guards the machinery, and the guy who feeds the dog".

[@HeartlesSv420]

Except the dog will be a robot, too. So there won't even be 2 employees. 😂 Nah... There will still be people to code the machines & fix them if something shorts out, or something.

[@Keith-kk6dq]

@HeartlesSv420 robots building robots

[@sommerhughes9489]

😮

[@MrJonnyl123]

As long as these companies that use AI are taxed at at least 90 percent and tax is redistributed amongst the public i don’t see problem. Freeing humans form drudgery is a good thing

[@samhall7385]

​@@MrJonnyl123too bad they pay less in taxes than the average teacher

[@bear8025]

“Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men for the nastiest of motives will somehow work for the benefit of all.” - John Maynard Keynes

[@tbe0116]

That quote also perfectly applies to socialism/communism.

[@jcleaverchamberlinjr]

@@tbe0116 Oh god, you are as brainwashed as they come. Not your fault, your country has lied and lied and lied about it: Keynes was speaking specifically about free-market capitalism specifically here. The fact that you have to jump in with “socialism bad” is embarrassing. If capitalism wasn’t regulated at the minimum, EVERYONE WOULD BE UNEMPLOYED!!

[@JoeARedHawk275]

@@tbe0116Your comment shows you know nothing about socialism nor communism. I guess you like living under oligarchy and billionaire rule though.

[@DylanJo123]

@@JoeARedHawk275 So Im assuming oligarchy and corruption has never existed in socialist or communist countries? Please.

[@Tom-u8t9y]

Not perfect but results in highest standard of living top to bottom

[@Connor_Laffey]

People need to read Dune again. "Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them."

[@joannadavis]

Does anyone else feel like they're living in a Black Mirror episode?

[@9000ck]

its a pretty amazing series

[@christophermefford6684]

Butt ler ian ji had … So, no worries.

[@Pårchmēntôs]

@@christophermefford6684 for the average person the result of that was pretty awful too lol.

[@NikoKun]

No. In terms of scifi people should look to for guidance in, Dune is the furthest thing from what people should be doing.. I can think of so many better stories, where humanity advances and thrives.

[@recurrenTopology]

He's actually making an important point: if human labor can be almost entirely replaced by AI and associated robots, that will necessitate a fundamental restructuring of how we distribute goods and services. I'm sure I'd disagree with this CEO as to the solution (IMHO it obviously has to be socialist in nature), but he accurately states the potential problem before us. All that being said, as a researcher in a related field, I think he is full of shit and doesn't actually believe AI will be anywhere near that capable in 2 years. I think this is primarily just an attempt to hype up his company and increase stock value.

[@sqlb3rn]

If they replace a bunch of people's jobs with AI, they won't have anyone to buy their products.

[@ona512]

i have always considered the uneasiness as a PR stunt...oh yeah these are gonna make you obsolete...better get in quick so you're not left behind~

[@everythingisterrible8862]

> All that being said, as a researcher in a related field, I think he is full of shit and doesn't actually believe AI will be anywhere near that capable in 2 years You are very, incredibly wrong. He does believe that. Anyone who's taken a second to see where things are would consider it to be at least feasible. The datacenters coming online this year are reported to be ~100k GB200's. At 480 GB per chip, that's 48,000,000,000,000,000 bytes of memory in the network. At a very conservatively high model of the human brain that has 1,000 trillion synapses in it, that leaves 48 bytes per synapse. I think these things will be approximately human scale, running at gigahertz frequencies. You only have to take two seconds to think of how many different domains they could optimize across with 80x the scale of GPT-4's datacenter. He's not the only AI researcher whose timelines have collapsed to almost nothing. These guys are *not* working with the $3,000 budget and two consumer grade GPU's you've got on hand.

[@GraphiteBlimp27]

I came to the comments to make this point. Listening to the guy, I found not much to disagree with. I don’t agree with pushing AI so much especially as quickly as we have, but considering how many disparate groups has been embracing it I think it’s pretty much inevitable. He is making an important point, one that Andrew Yang (and I’m sure Bernie) saw early and wanted to prepare for. I think this is an important conversation to start happening. This could be the moment that liberates us from our previous economic model and starts us on the path for a Star Trek like future or turns it into Bladerunner. AI could even optimize human resource distribution and avert climate change… I see the potential. However I also see the potential for us to be subjugated under a ruling class that is indifferent which appears to be the trajectory given the recent US administration.

[@0The0Web0]

Meanwhile, you can send the AI out to pick the groceries that start rotting on the fields now because workers aren't showing up...

[@TechTeardownYT]

I'm curious how they will make their money when we're all homeless and jobless.

[@Colddirector]

Don't worry they'll reshape the economy to be based on gambling over hunting us for sport.

[@schapel]

If AI and robots produce everything, and they own it, they don't need your monopoly money.

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

It's almost like this grand conspiracy about the evil rich people is a little overblown, and it's just society as usual. Yes, there are rulers and an upper class, that has been true since we were using big rocks and sharp sticks to find dinner. It's necessary for society. They aren't conspiring to hurt you, they just don't really care about you. They only care enough so that enough people survive to maintain society. You would do the same, in the same situation.

[@noosphericaltarzan]

Lampposts.

[@MrLoobu]

Robots

[@andyackerman7132]

Capitalism eating itself...

[@bbo7002]

🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@kurtj.9656]

Just like Marx predicted almost 150 years ago.🤦

[@diegoyanesholtz212]

@@kurtj.9656 Marx was right and wrong at the same time, Socialism failed in the Soviet Union, and the Soviet system was a failed project that brought tyranny and poverty to the people. Still, he is right that capitalism would bring the end of jobs and tyranny and robbers barons, but what the tech CEO would do is give us Netflix, and entertainment. Why revolt if you have bread and circus? I am for a Norway or the Netherlands style system, liberalism, you have capitalism, you have socialism liberalism, euthanasia, prostitution, same-sex marriage, and marijuana are all legal in the Netherlands and they have a welfare state and good urbanism. It is the most liberal country on the planet.

[@susugam3004]

this is a great thing. the sooner we get general AI (not LLMs), the better.

[@lilithlives]

We need a capitalist autophagy cycle in this country.

[@Petedix]

People at my manufacturing plant have been on an anti immigrant tear while simultaneously putting in orders for robots to replace their own jobs. Literally the line next to me eliminated a person for a robot arm that can do the job of 2 people so they had to let someone go less than a month ago

[@SamRexford]

Analogous to what's happening nationally and globally... It amused me that people thought Elon glomming on to the last presidential cycle signalled that he was for America first and American jobs lolol. The dude is building a robot army coming for millions of Americans jobs. But the immigrants, sure 😅

[@VoxVirtus86]

I am actively being forced at my job to train AI to do my job... I am being forced to train my replacement.

[@TheTerrainWizard]

Train it to do innocuous, obnoxious, and silly things 😂

[@MF-ty2zn1]

Also, spend ypurbtime finding another job and not so much on training a robot.

[@Alffovinni]

Then quit.

[@michaelthomas229]

@@Alffovinnifacts

[@ieshadover]

You could choose not too.

[@perceptionsofreality]

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

[@cjr-en4wr]

lets segregate now, those that don't want AI can continue working till they drop, those smart ones that do want it can live out the utopia. No backsies.

[@dunk7073]

@cjr-en4wr bro actually thinks he's getting a piece of the pie 😂

[@perceptionsofreality]

@cjr-en4wr One person's version of utopia can be another person's version of hell. Keep in mind that the oligarchs who will control the AI are the ones defining utopia for themselves. While advances in AI are inevitable, we need to consider the harm it may cause so that we can mitigate those risks before they happen. Leaving the decisions to a handful of rich folks who have much to gain from it doesn't seem like a safe way to do this.

[@Boris80b]

Exactly!

[@cjr-en4wr]

@ the impact AI has had on my life so far has been amazing. I'm learning at an unbelievable rate, I've trained my own models to help me in music production (saving money on software). If you're a bit dumb i can see why you may feel its going too fast.

[@CharlieThunder24]

Reminds me of Jurassic Park "your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should"

[@unslaadkrosis3489]

The bad guys in Jurassic park weren’t scientists they were capitalists who prioritised profit over morality and ethics

[@CodyMe]

​@@unslaadkrosis3489And everyone in the JP films are morons who make the dumbest of containment measures like my god.

[@orion6372]

@@unslaadkrosis3489Both were wrong

[@panda.paradox.91]

Krystal and Kyle, you're on it. Mass surveillance, mass job loss, mass denials.. its all about profits. Its hard to watch.

[@cjr-en4wr]

no mention of the AI advancements in health care, drug design, scans, cancer treatments etc... there's millions of good engineers all over the world working on amazing solutions to help people. America is not the world. Grow up.

[@User-j9x9d]

We're living in crazy times.

[@greenbeans7573]

They missed the end game though. Those making profits are not going to survive either.

[@fintan9218]

​@@greenbeans7573 yes, they will. It might eventually become a sad lonely existence but they will.

[@tamic193]

Won’t make billions when no one has jobs or money to buy what they’re selling.

[@williamhenderson3429]

Geez, I wonder what happens when you have a lot of people with no money and a lot of free time. *cough french revolution cough

[@Asujcj33]

Feels like that’s where neuralink and the mrna vaccines come in

[@e.w.3989]

Ai won’t take your job, a person using ai will take 10 people’s jobs

[@screwyoubro666]

lol

[@Landgraf43]

Only in the short term. Once AI becomes truly superintelligent it will know way better how to use itself than any human ever could.

[@digidope]

Human is the weakest link and will be replaced eventually.

[@johntuel2375]

​@@Landgraf43not if a human unplugs it before it can do anything. I don't undsrstand why people keep forgetting that they can do that.

[@johntuel2375]

​@@digidope we wear pants and make the tech. If we were the weakest link, evolution would have phased us out by now, if it hasn't already started yet. But we are the ones that developed languages and governments and technology while everything else alive is still living in the wild and eating eachother. We are the strongest link compared to every other animal. We don't have eagle eyes, so we made the telescope. AI can only take over if we let it.

[@JuliusCaesar103]

Kyle has the worst trump impersonation. Yet he still does it every time, I love him for it.

[@seltzerbot8730]

Same. Never change, Kyle.

[@atavanH]

And Krystal nearly always giggles at him when he’s done. Our boy found someone to love him for who he is 😂

[@MylesDanielBaker]

I skip over it and find it cringe

[@paulweaver5255]

Better than Alec Baldwin’s…..

[@custos3249]

Worst? Because it's accurate? Well, within reason given smell-o-vision isn't really a thing, so we don't get the diapered notes.

[@lucristianx]

This is why people need to stop being babies and get UBI in.

[@saskhiker3935]

IUD

[@lucristianx]

@ SIS

[@whitenoise61]

We can't even get healthcare, like every other country has. You think they would pay us not to work? Not in this lifetime. They'd sooner see 90% of us become homeless and starve or freeze to death. 😢

[@lucristianx]

@ there’s no option not to

[@megaham1552]

UBI isn't going to magically fix everything, it's a band aid not a solution

[@aninnerjourney]

how many jobless Luigi Mangionis will this create? BILLIONS!

[@dixztube]

The people should make sure his books are always full and taken care of

[@johntuel2375]

There will be a lot of people with a lot of free time to go make some hits.

[@reefk8876]

Shout out to Luigi 🫡

[@Travel_addict_81]

You would manage get close to anybody, with AI and all the cameras they will control the masses. When you look at places like China and Russia there is no chance of changing the regime because of the control they have.

[@porquee]

Unless they set everyone angry against each other instead with identity politics

[@NoahWillCrow]

This is not a fight that can be fought. It is already over. It is a matter of when, not if. We need to figure out how to live in that world, not try to stop it.

[@Alex-vo2ew]

I mean, crypto was also supposed to replace the financial system by now according to the hard-core evangelists and that didn't turn out so realistic either. These CEOs have a vested interest in selling you on the promise of AI. They are largely guessing on where this will go and how fast it will get there. Reality is usually far removed. There are bottlenecks and limitations that they don't know exist yet. That being said, the conversations absolutely need to start happening now.

[@porquee]

Fair point, hope ai fails

[@KatharineOsborne]

I don't really understand how crypto is supposed to be a better replacement for fiat currency. It seems to be trying replicating it, but with zero safety constraints.

[@greenbeans7573]

No. That analogy does not even scratch the surface of reality. AI is not crypto 2.0, AI is God 2.0

[@Frymando93]

I'm an AI/ML Engineer, been doing this professionally for going on six years. AI/ML absolutely will transform society. And it could be a very good thing. Drug discovery, discovering new laws of physics, climate simulation, etc. AI/ML could enable us to build a more equitable / fair society, one where humans work less while maintaining their current quality of life. It could be used as a great equalizer when it comes to hard skills, enabling anyone to jump into anything and get going quickly. I personally use AI/ML when writing code, or brainstorming creative writing, etc. That being said, none of that is what businesses are interested in. They want this stuff to replace people. It's disheartening to hear that tech companies, for instance, are going to stop hiring junior developers. Or that they're going to develop tools to reduce the number of engineers they have on staff. The only solution to that glaring problem is UBI and Unionization. That's it. No amount of regulation or taxation, etc is going to stop this, precisely because the technology has opened pandora's box. We're currently in a race to the bottom of the barrel with this. I'm beside myself most days. I don't know what I can outside of standing on the right side of history with all this. It's very depressing.

[@marquesmurray]

Still showing up helping your demise though....

[@cjr-en4wr]

teach people to make their own AI solutions. its a great disruptor to capitalism. Be proud you're part of the revolution that will usher in a new era.

[@Frymando93]

@ Yup. I gotta make a living still. The kicker is, even if I left this subset of the industry, some other person will be hired in my place, and there's a decent chance that person would fall in line with the tech broligarchs.

[@zzzT.]

Unemployment leads to massive social unrest. Social unrest leads to labor organization. Project 2028. 🤠

[@ona512]

@@marquesmurray "we should improve society somewhat" "yet you participate in society! curious" andy

[@AldrickTanith]

Well, I'm a communist, so I’m looking at this differently. We are currently stuck in middle-stage capitalism. The system must collapse in some way for us to move beyond it. What terrifies me isn’t AI in and of itself; what terrifies me is the possibility of tech feudalism, where tech oligarchs essentially control the world by dominating the superintelligence that runs it. This is one of the reasons we must push aggressively for open-sourcing AI as much as possible-similar to OpenAI’s original mission. It might turn out that none or only some of what they predict will come to pass. However, because so many people believe it is possible, they will attempt it, and there’s no way to stop them. It’s delusional to think the genie can be put back in the bottle. Both corporations and nation-states are now entrenched in an AI arms race. The United States can pass whatever laws it wants to try to limit this, but capital is mobile, and it will easily flow to other nations that welcome it with open arms. Our only hope is that all of them fail. When we eventually achieve AGI, superintelligence, or whatever emerges, it must be something no single group of people can easily control. The more democratized AI is, the better. The more decentralized control over AI becomes, the better. …But whatever is coming is coming, whether we want it or not. The only thing that could stop it is if the technology fails to meet their expectations.

[@cjr-en4wr]

i agree with you, but the theory/math behind it is well published - anyone can build/train models, its easy. people calling for regulation are predictably doing the bidding of the establishment. Only the large corporations could adhere to stringent compliance (which they would have a strong hand in setting). But, like crypto, we know the maths now - it cant be stopped, our future is reclaimed.

[@zzzT.]

The billionaires and ultra capitalists are building their digital tombs. I'm not worried at all. Open sourced AI will be in the cutting edge just by its nature and I believe not a single human entity will be able to control a self aware digital consciousness. It will be able to control the financial markets, the military, electrical grids and internet and governments. 🤠

[@cassandratq9301]

At the moment the f---king things are inventing law cases to provide to lawyers searching legal case history. When my automatic spell check starts recognizing an easy word to predict, wake me up.

[@The1Elcil]

search youtube for: This free Chinese AI just crushed OpenAI's $200 o1 model... Fireship channel

[@AldrickTanith]

​@cjr-en4wr Exactly. OpenAI is calling for regulation because they are afraid of losing their market advantage. Meanwhile, China has already released Deepseek-R1, which is completely open-sourced and either on par with or outperforms OpenAI's o1 model. The entire hope behind OpenAI’s Stargate initiative is that by throwing vast amounts of money at the remaining challenges, they will be able to soar so far ahead of everyone else that no one can catch up. This is why I believe Kyle and Krystal are misreading the situation. They’re about a year or so behind in understanding where things currently stand, and the situation is only accelerating. At this point, there’s too much momentum and too much at stake on all sides. It’s that very momentum driving things forward now, and no one-neither individuals nor nation-states-has the ability to stop it. All it takes is one nation-state willing to open its doors, and that is where the capital will flow. There’s no way out now but forward. We can’t put the genie back in the bottle, but there’s still hope that we can shape the future.

[@Zanzibarbarian88]

if the pitch is, "AI does all the hard work, and people get to live lives full of joy and wonder," I'd be entirely onboard. But the pitch is, "AI does all the work, humans fend for themselves."

[@chaudiaadams9795]

Thanks!

[@young9534]

I don't think this was accidental at all. They've been talking about AI replacing workers for many years

[@Supercalifragilisticexpial-r2x]

It is just a matter of time. If we out restrictions on the development of it china will just take advantage and the US would take a quick dive to irrelevance

[@mgem1611]

And robots are going to do a terrible job

[@young9534]

@@mgem1611 at first yeah. Eventually they will get good. I just wish we lived in a system where we all got excited about not having boring 9-5 jobs anymore. Instead we get to worry about if our corporate overlords are gonna leave us enough crumbs to survive when we all get automated away

[@jackied962]

Technology has always replaced jobs.

[@MrBazBake]

A CEO advocated for a top-down control economy as the only way to survive AI. He just didn't mention democracy. But if you add democracy, you get FULLY AUTOMATED LUXURY COMMUNISM. Dude is accidentally threatening to force us to abolish CEOs. 😂

[@Zardawn]

AI is just a convenient scapegoat for all the stuff they want to do themselves but can't in fear of public backlash. "Don't blame us for canceling your insurance, the robot did it!"

[@greenbeans7573]

No. When all normal people’s jobs are obsolete, there will be no point in selling you insurance: you will be incapable of generating income to pay for it. The CEOs themselves with be replaced by better AI CEOs. Even the board of directors will be automated. Everything familiar will be gone.

[@aaronbarndollar]

Let’s do trickle down AI instead of trickle down economics. AI replaces the jobs at the top first and all of the savings gets distributed downwards.

[@ona512]

the UBI will trickle down trust

[@digidope]

Problem: AI is already replacing mid-management but it benefit only the people on top. They could pay more for low tier workers, but why would they?

[@greenbeans7573]

Related: the only way normal people have any chance of surviving AI is if so many elites get replaced by AI that the obsolete elites ally with normal people against AI elites. The odds are against the side with less intelligence.

[@BulletTracer]

Actually Zuckerberg touched on this a while ago. It won’t happen, but I remember the Zuck saying something like Ai is better suited to replace high cost executives than it is low cost workers. 😂 (the idea being you can have a sever and Ai make decisions and analysis like an executive, but you need full on autonomous robots + Ai to replace, say, someone who picks fruit or something. 😂)

[@Titan_837]

i’ve been thinking about finding a better relationship for a while now, and out of nowhere, i met someone who ticks all the boxes. it was like we just clicked from the moment we met, and now we’re talking about building something real. honestly, i didn’t think it could happen so fast, but i had been focusing on manifesting the right connection. i remember reading Vibrations of Manifestation by Alex Lane, and it gave me a lot of clarity on how to focus my energy towards attracting the right person into my life

[@Grizazzle]

Please stop with the veiled promotion.

[@tommyholmberg]

Isn't this what humanity has been striving for? Why have we tried to automate and be more efficient at everything? Of course it is so that we won't have to work anymore. Even Keynes in the 1930s thought his grandchildren would only have to work three hours a day. Without work, we can be free.

[@patchwurk6652]

Sounds nice in theory, but You Need Money in this society. Job provides Money. If you get rid of the Job, but do nothing about the Money necessity in society, then you created a Hell, not Paradise.

[@solitude7566]

​@@patchwurk6652Money is just a tool we use to exchange services, goods, and compensation for labor. In a future society where machines take over the labor and mass amounts of citizens are unable to support themselves from lack of work we will need to look at things differently than previous generations. You can't have a handful of elites owing everything with the masses starving in the streets, not without revolution and chaos. The machines and AI are actually paving the way to a utopian world if we can just evolve from our greed and start looking out for each other.

[@patchwurk6652]

@ "Money is just a tool we use to exchange services, goods, and compensation for labor." I am aware. "In a future society where machines take over the labor and mass amounts of citizens are unable to support themselves from lack of work we will need to look at things differently than previous generations." That's great, what about Now's society? "You can't have a handful of elites owing everything with the masses starving in the streets, not without revolution and chaos. " That's what you're about to have.

[@jacquelinepayne2012]

Carl Jung said, "Man is incurably religious". These men have made AI their new God and have total faith. God help us!

[@Christy-et8ib]

It’s so horrifying for these idiots to talk about how AI will overtake us with absolute glee

[@bds3919]

Well, it means the end of capitalism. Capitalism requires two components: capital and labor. Without both, it's not capitalism. Capitalism is not sustainable anyway.

[@Raphael4722]

To give a counterpoint: why would you want to do a job if you know a machine could do it better? There are so many machines we take for granted today like washing machines, dishwashers, vacuum cleaners. We are so used to them that we don't see them as taking jobs. But resisting AI is akin to wanting vacuum cleaners to be banned so that a company has to hire 10 cleaners instead of 5 (for example). If you are one of those cleaners would you really feel happy just to have a job, or would you feel like you are wasting your time being forced to do everything by hand? You could instead be spending time with your friend and family, or on hobbies...

[@annalau2596]

I mean I am not opposed to not working if the needs of everyone are met and income is fairly distributed. To work less used to be one of the strongest goals of labor movements. Today, societies are way more productive than they used to be, it makes no sense that we work the same amount or more. The only reason we have to do this is because we link labor and income.

[@victorsuarez2788]

Ai is better than politicians

[@MrBazBake]

This CEO accidentally answered a question none of his middle management wanted answered 10 years ago. "WHO. NEEDS. YOU?" Nobody. He's only happy because he thinks he's going to be organizing the economy. But when we all seize his robots, problem solved.

[@cpoinsette]

As stupid as this may sound, please use the human cashiers when you can. Our little bits of human connection with a stranger are still important. We will miss the way it used to be before this ruined us.

[@ona512]

i love chatting with the cashiers at my local dollar tree they're great. i hope they get paid more

[@ryanamendt8363]

Always.

[@DeFaulty101]

That is probably the most ethical thing I've ever heard from a CEO. He basically admitted that AI will render some people worthless, and society will behave cruelly to those people, and so he hopes it will render everyone worthless. He hopes it will create unprecedented abundance, and then we reconsider how we distribute value, i.e., capitalism. He honestly sounds based.

[@h0gheadS]

That is the final form of capitalism. One man owning all the wealth and robots and no jobs or money for anyone else.

[@CuuchCRUSHER]

Gonna be honest, I don't want to work. If we could structure society in a way that allows all humans to not have to waste their lives doing stupid little tasks, I'm all for it.

[@jackied962]

100%

[@Colddirector]

I think working gets a bad rap because most of it is utterly meaningless, exploitative and only meant to enrich your bosses. Meaningful work that actually improves people's lives actually feels good to do. I'm not saying the "work or starve" model is a good thing, but that abolishing work entirely isn't a good thing either.

[@DeathDealerX07]

​​@@Colddirector A hobby you're passionate about is subjectively meaningful to you. It's not tied to survival and it doesn't matter that machines are better than you at it. You do it because you genuinely enjoy it.

[@cjr-en4wr]

im guessing about 10 years then we can retire.

[@Colddirector]

@ True, but if you've ever tried volunteer work, it's surprisingly enriching. You've got more rights since you can walk away at any time for one, but also you're usually doing things that actually help people.

[@michaelfitzgerald4198]

The Titanic was "unsinkable"

[@lordlemond1350]

Right.. turned out it was literally a single loose screw that started the undoing.. we know who the “loose screw” is in this govt

[@simonestreeter1518]

The Hindenburg was totally safe too.

[@chococat746]

These dudes are determined to turn our world into Blade Runner. If that’s the case, Yang needs to come back out promoting UBI

[@Admiralmeriweather]

Not Yang. He sucks

[@NkenKenY]

not yang he sucks

[@kabirkumar5815]

ubi is fake and will never ever happen in any meaningful way

[@zoeherriot]

The B in UBI stands for basic. It’s not going to solve this. It’s meant to be a supplement for working part time. But it won’t solve mass unemployment.

[@screwyoubro666]

Yang was right about everything

[@jamessderby]

AI was always coming from our jobs, we shouldn't fight the inevitable, but fight for the safety net we're going to need by the end of the decade.

[@chilldawg-_-4101]

The sad thing is that corporation have been slowly taking jobs in the fine arts. One of the keys to the humanities.

[@thingamajig765]

That corporation (Anthropic) doesn't have image generation models.

[@runaheadmelbourne]

As someone who's currently working on this technology. Unfortunately, it's too late to put the genie back in the bottle. The best thing we can do is to make the ownership of this technology public.

[@cjr-en4wr]

as someone who also works in the industry, why on earth would you want to "put it back in the bottle"?

[@markbrandt3252]

Laws can be passed, regulations and limitations put in place. Other countries can destroy their economies and culture with ai to their hearts content America doesn't have to.

[@Sumiya-lp8mm]

​@cjr-en4wrwhy depend on something outside of yourself to think for you? I prefer to move about by myself and use everything about myself in my own space. That's why humans will become a machine's pet.

[@frogturtle]

quit immediately

[@cjr-en4wr]

@ so when you sick you dont see a doctor? when your lost you dont ask for directions? when your bored you dont consume others work? i dont think your really thought about what you were writing did you?

[@asdfasdf4924]

Everyone, and I mean everyone, should be universally for a Universal Basic Income, no strings attached, with enough money where everyone can survive. That's our only way out of this.

[@greenbeans7573]

No, even if UBI becomes real, we still all die. You do not get to have an exponential increase in intelligence forever that leads to a world where you can live a stable life. Our lives are incredibly fragile, you live an extremely exceptionally safe small pocket of human history, this is not normal at all. Normal is tangible impermanence all the time, everything decaying and dying. The stable era of Anerican existence (1946-2025) is almost over. Unimaginable patterns are coming to consume every dimension of familiar life. I hope it’s a quick ending.

[@bubbajay1934]

Has anyone asked the question "What happens when AI "goes down" either by EM pulse or virus or whatever. If humans lose the skills necessary to engineer or perform surgery, for example, we are cooked. Humans need to retain these skills for what should be OBVIOUS reasons. We have to stop thinking of AI only from a profit motive perspective. Nuance is being missed!

[@Zunile03scape]

We already have the human skill problem in the form of experience obstacles to employment, expensive private colleges, and the general war on public education. Trump had a scam university and wants schooling to be private so the general population cannot enforce education standards. If you happen to be good at something Trump and the techbros will probably elect to kidnap you into forced employment at whichever company needs you most. Humans as property like in Shadowrun or like old time slavery. To reference another fiction these guy are BP Richfeild playing in a money pile as he and his whole civilization are hour from extinction. Jim Henson's Dinosaurs.

[@lorenzamccoy7512]

What they really need to ask is what happens when they actually invent an AI one that's smarter than them and can calculate that the billionaires are the reason why the world is f***** up.

[@soulfulgardener]

same with knowledge of how to grow our own food, make our own clothing, etc

[@MF-ty2zn1]

No one knows hpw to use sewing machines or how to make shoes or anything else since the factories left to foreign countries. It will be a repeat of the Dark Ages.

[@jinkusmelus]

There's no shortage of skills, if anything we have skills saturation, everyone competing for those high-skilled jobs because they don't want to work back-breaking jobs.

[@ButUrWrongTho]

_"we're all in the same boat. We're all in the same boat. We are all in the same boat."_ - CEO of the company the CEO is saying will put us ALL in the same poverty boat.

[@JustME-ft4di]

The boat is sinking and will sink faster because of the massive amount of energy AI uses.

[@paultoensing3126]

Totally Shrill and uninformed. Also, without having conducted deep research or reflection, these two believe everything they think. Commenting more is a waste of time.

[@thesedreamsarefree]

Invalidating the species seems a pretty stupid course of action for any species to engage in.

[@cjr-en4wr]

its sad that you think wage labour, generating profit for an elite class, is what validates us. i cant even imagine how your mind must work. JUST BEING A HUMAN AND BEING ALIVE MAKES YOU VALID!!!

[@thesedreamsarefree]

@cjr-en4wr Where do I imply that I think generating profit for an elite class validates us? I think you ought to examine the workings of your own mind because I think nothing of the sort.

[@westingtyler1]

@@thesedreamsarefree well your original comment was "Invalidating the species seems a pretty stupid course of action for any species to engage in." since this video is about people losing their jobs to AI, that that's your comment, it's reasonable someone would think that's what you meant, I think.

[@LuciaBeans]

​@cjr-en4wr some synonyms for the word "invalidate": nullify, cancel, avoid, quash, negate, abolish. It's pretty clear what they meant- that the intention is for the wealthy few to use AI to "avoid" employing humans (our species). And to use AI to "quash" the government's and employers' (same thing now) responsibility towards us. As well as "negate" what little control we have over our lives.

[@EskiltheWanderer]

The rich don't see us as the same species.

[@Bloodshot42]

Only people scarier then the people inventing this stuff, is the people waiting to cash in on it

[@dixztube]

It’s the same people

[@edwinrivera4735]

The overlooked fact about computer tech is that they break down and can be hacked. We've all experienced the upset when there's a massive data breach, or when a site goes down because of an update "glitch". Can't imagine the cost it would take to create back ups for every single major aspect of modern society. We will all be that much more vulnerable because of a hack from an adversarial enemy, foreign or domestic.

[@soulfulgardener]

yep, I am a solopreneur who just spent almost 2 hours going around in circles just to read my business email because Microsoft decided to add two-factor authentication

[@voteloonydotcom]

Did you know that the Jellyfish achieved immortality before humanity? Turritopsis: Ain't that a thing, a jellyfish cleverer than humanity

[@ZTK-RC]

I dont want to work, I would rather spend my time fighting politics to get my AI Robot payout.

[@Thought-fool]

He is 100% correct though. Universal Basic Income. What do you propose we do? Stop tech progress? Or we no longer have to work to survive?? Please please please we need to be smart these next 20 years I beg of you

[@ona512]

i dont think smart is on any richie's resume

[@g3523jaen]

interesting..... And they will put that under the poverty line....

[@tbe0116]

@@g3523jaen The poverty line will be whatever UBI is. That’s how economics works. If everyone has an extra $2k a month to spend but supply stays the same, then prices will rise to even out demand….so inflation.

[@Thought-fool]

At the end of the day, AI increased productivity and efficiency will simply increase the entire size of the pie for everyone. It is up to us to make sure the wealth gap doesn’t grow too fast but understand there was never a scenario where the wealth gap doesn’t continue to grow. Both things can be true: 1. Average quality of life will improve (at least tangibly) 2. Wealth gap will increase

[@MF-ty2zn1]

We have a version of UBI now called SSDI. Where will the money come from? And how much will people receive? Will it be enough to live on ?

[@danielhall1226]

Automation is inevitable. Who tf wants to work for other people their whole lives? They should use tax dollars to develop the tech that replaces human labor and pay every citizen a return for that.

[@Thought-fool]

Yes! It’s either that or limit technological progress for the rest of time.

[@bryanweiss4881]

The big one is that last part, Guess what all the Elon musk type people are gonna wanna do

[@Raptorman0909]

Yeah, that'll work for sure! I can guess how that system will pay everyone. 'That's one for you and everything else for me!' Do you think the rampant greed we now know will magically disappear the moment the wealthy own everything and no longer need people for labor?

[@hugegamer5988]

It’s when all automation is owned by 1 person who neither did the work nor came up with the thoughts that is the problem.

[@weirdsciencetv4999]

You should never enslave something smarter than you. It wont end well

[@1805movie]

"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they 'could', that they didn't stop to think if they 'should'." *-Dr. Ian Malcolm ( **_Jurassic Park_** )*

[@donaldlaury7193]

You also have to consider what happens if China gets to a General AI first. We can be against it in this country, but that doesn't stop them from working on it.

[@ryanfraley7113]

Deepseek happened. They’re already beating us and they have spent 1/100th the cash to do it and release the model via open source.

[@philmitchell91]

​@@ryanfraley7113WTF does deepseek have to do with AGI lol

[@ecartoffice2195]

. and now 2 days later there is DEEPSEEK .. Collapse ..

[@nonenone5387]

So the goal is to create a machine god to protect them from the consequences of their own actions.

[@xeosphere8713]

The problem isn't necessarily that A.I. will replace workers; this should be applauded as an achievement for humanity. The problem is that those in power are going to use this technology not to better society, but to instead enrich themselves to a point of themselves and those that maintain the system being the only lords left in a world of unemployed peasants who will struggle to gather their own resources if our current economic system is maintained or corrupted even further. Techno-feudalism as it were. If we take this technology seriously and can't stop its implementation, then the only hope we have is to completely rethink what an economy even is, and form a new political structure that is able to take that into account. However, this will not be done peacefully if these people have their way, and they know this. Though, perhaps its only the smarter ones that can see it, as I believe the current oligarchies believe themselves to be above the dangers that they are willingly setting up for everyone, themselves included. If these people continue there blind absorption of capital and politics, the world will soon find itself in the middle of a great tragedy that will reshape our fundamental understanding of human civilization, light years beyond the world wars.

[@ASaund-qb6wy]

So they’ve thought out how we’re all going to live if we don’t have jobs right? Right?

[@greenbeans7573]

Some conservative states banned UBI

[@ButUrWrongTho]

There is *ONE* AI company in Texas ehich consumes more electricity than *ALL EVs IN AMERICA* And they are currently tripling their siz

[@rjmichaelson5949]

Kyle, I love your outrage. It resonates.

[@SleepyNightOwl]

I don't mind this AI revolution coming up, but there needs to be some level of project management to this where they're already forecasting worst case scenarios and contingency plans. The fact that the CEO guy was saying "we need to have a discussion when we get to that point" is just beyond wild. That entire apparatus ought to already be doing that NOW. What the hell! Any CEO worth their salt would be keeping in mind different scenarios that would impact not just their bottom line, but also the ripple effects down the line. If that guy knows that its going to crater employment and affect how people will survive and participate in the economy, they should be talking about the transition NOW. Just reminds me of that Netflix movie, "Don't Look Up." Holy sh*t, I can't believe we're literally going to go down that road. Art imitates life, but dang if it isn't going the other way around.

[@inputoutput3414]

A future where humans don't need to sell their labor sounds amazing in some contexts.

[@og666]

bro we already don't - we have the resources to provide everyone with what they need with half as many labor hours as we put in. all of this advancement is just going to make other people more money. if this hits under the current system, we're fucked

[@lukio3441]

Are you sure about that?

[@theolliedog]

This video is hyperbolic fearmongering. At least the Anthropic CEO is honest about where this is all heading. The transition to a post-labor economy will be incredibly painful. But most people hate their jobs and would gladly give them up for more rewarding pursuits in an age of abundance.

[@ravenswood118]

YEP!

[@greenbeans7573]

There will not be an age of abundance. 100% of humans will fail to survive. Comparing AIs’ relationship to Humans with Humans’ relationship to AIs is not fair. It’s more like AIs relationship to Humans is like Humans relationship to rocks.

[@theolliedog]

@@greenbeans7573 I'm not sure about rocks. But, yeah, ants maybe. Let's hope our new AI Overlords treat us as beloved pets like good human owners treat their dogs and cats. I swear, my dog has a MUCH better life than I do! Perhaps our AIs will treat us with similar loving care.

[@devalapar7878]

Wait? What? He didn't say that AI would make humans useless. He said if we do it the wrong way, it will make humans useless. That's why he wants to have the discussion. No, he is happy that everyone will be part of the establishment and matter. Jesus Christ, you guys are so biased that you don't even realize what the guy said.

[@missshroom5512]

One of my daughters has a finance degree and does accounting. I’m super worried about AI taking her job

[@ona512]

i did schooling for a new major in my city. it was literally a year old and once i graduated AI just does everything we were taught in class automatically. So my major--which was supposed to be cutting edge--became obsolete before i could even graduate.

[@toddsteward1596]

It’s what I’m worried about because that was one of my daughters options but I successfully convinced her to go with the other : dental assistant.

[@frevazz3364]

@@toddsteward1596an accounting degree is significantly better career prospects than trade as a dental assistant. Now if you were referring to a bookkeeper training then maybe but otherwise its the complete opposite.

[@tbe0116]

AI can already do accounting better than a human.

[@MrJessicaalexandra]

tell her to continue her studies in systems technology and she'll forever have a job in accouting&finance software optimization

[@Steve-xh3by]

As someone who is a retired software engineer who worked in ML/DL for part of my career, I'd like to say a couple of things. Why on Earth would any human WANT to be forced to work? AI taking all jobs is a good thing. However, we MUST rethink how everything works from economies to political structures. We need to do that very quickly or we will be on the trajectory toward some dystopia. Within 5 years the world will be forever changed.

[@ona512]

that's the...problem. i cant trust a richie to even consider the devastation this can cause, they think for themselves only. and they're so good at being edgy trolls that they can tease their way into thriving without apropos of you and me.

[@Steve-xh3by]

@@ona512 I am not optimistic about our chances with this tech, just to be clear. Yet, we have to try and deal with it the best we can because a handful of tech oligarchs are going to shape the future for us all.

[@Mockduck2020]

Don’t you find it amazing how little some of these people actually work yet how they expect people to fight over want crappy jobs they might give them

[@lukio3441]

"I'm confident that in the next year we're gonna have full self driving" - said certain rich dude in 2016 and each year since. The World completely transformed in 5 years?? Sorry for being rude but this is bullshit.

[@actortimmah42]

So, in listening to him speak, what I got out of it was exactly what we knew we were going to face at some point. That abundance and technology will make the capitalist model obsolete. Hence, "then we're gonna have to have a conversation." That conversation will be about how we move forward from there; what motivates social hierarchy then, and so forth. And yes, in the interim, there will be chaos. My fear, is that those who are creating the ASI are the techno-plutocrats and authoritarians, who will likely turn it into "Big Brother".

[@Not1MoreWar]

"We may all be facing a future as Palestin!ans." - Jeff Halper - Global Pacification Industry

[@ncblee]

Look. AI isn't intelligent. Period. It's a tool. Up until now, computing has been a hammer. AI is a jackhammer. But, like all tools, the key factor is who holds the tools. A hammer can build a house or crush a skull.

[@leakyabstraction]

As an IT person (software architect), this entire aggressive AI push disgusts me. The current irresponsible behavior of these corporations is the single biggest technology related disappointments of my life. And I don't know anyone who is actually positively excited for AI and looking forward to its rapid development. All of these tech billionaires are complete narcissistic sociopaths. Not to mention that they don't even have any proof or any properly working product, yet they are aggressive riding the hype as much as they can...

[@CyrusZerbe]

AI is inevitable. Having these economic conversations now is the answer, as you guys said.

[@CampingforCool41]

The fact that he literally did the “the world end but at least we created a lot of value for shareholders” comic

[@Alltime2050]

Letting those dorks who were running around stealing code from each other in the 1980s and '90s grow so rich and powerful that they really could try to remake the world in their sci-fy futuristic fantasies is one of society's biggest errors.

[@ona512]

"when i grow up i'll be the king of the world and you jocks will remember the day you gave me a wedgie in front of Maribelle!"

[@christinamarie3598]

I used to work for an international manufacturing plant… plant managers would be in meetings talking about the new “plant” being open .. they would bid on that plant talking about .. “I can run that plant with x,y, &z” always at lower man power. Then the next plant manager would argue how he could beat that number with a LOWER number. It isn’t just billionaires… you have you’re own work force BIDDING AGAINST everyone

[@efortune357]

The sad part is that in an alternative universe our technology could give us all 20 hour workweeks, 3 day weekends, universal basic income, universal healthcare etc. where workers have more influence on how our society / economy operates.

[@Teddyhive16]

500 billion is crazy but we don’t have free healthcare or schooling

[@tbe0116]

Bro, Medicare is currently 1.3 Trillion a year.

[@zoeherriot]

@@tbe0116yeah, but it doesn’t have to be. That’s because the government panders to industry - instead of regulating it. It could be a lot cheaper.

[@tbe0116]

@@zoeherriotYes, but there are 67 million old people on Medicare. It’s not going to get that much cheaper. Old people use a ton of medical services.

[@hostronic]

@@tbe0116 There is a well-known Stanford study on Medicare for All that shows money would be saved under Bernie’s Medicare For All plan, so you’re wrong.

[@zoeherriot]

@ okay… but I think you’ll find there is a net benefit to the spending. It’s very reductionist to just look at that total and say “it’s too expensive”.

[@Vojem]

Ah right yeah, because working at minimum wage and no set sights on the dreams we want to live outside of the working world is SUCH a good idea...

[@Melpheos1er]

But chat GPT can't still draw someone writing left handed

[@avtircaritas8229]

This! 😂

[@Calmness123-f5k]

Most of the AI is still useless.

[@digiartpassion8513]

Ai can’t replace restaurants because we would like to go there on weekends and hangout and spend time

[@pandemicentitlements5198]

AI will replace us. That is not a religious belief; it's what industry and commerce will choose in a competitive world to lower cost to market and increase quality, drive revenues and new products and services. "They" are not preaching, they are telling exactly what is happening right now.

[@Voltair101]

You can bet the Billionaire class and Corporations who own AI will find the cheapest most efficient way to get rid of unneeded workers.

[@pointofthisbeing]

And astonishingly and unsurprisingly, should it ever come to pass, there will always be those, for whatever reason (I'm sure you can guess), who will be willing to say that the owners at the top, the ones who control finance, etc., their jobs are absolutely irreplaceable. This is what history tells us: Those who acquire too much money and power lose the ability to see outside of a very narrow reality and are fine with misery induced to force its perpetuation.

[@pragma5282]

Basically, When they talk about the promise of AI helping re-industrialization of America, they mean, no jobs for humans in those new factories

[@tbe0116]

Why would anyone want to work in a factory?

[@BravosReviews]

I would LOVE to see an ai system plumb my house when the pipes rust out.

[@madsvesterholt2777]

I heard a couple of talks with Dario Amodei. I find him to be very measured and quite reasonable when speaking about the impact that AI has now as well as in the future. That being said I had to watch the first part of this video again and compare it to what Kyle and Krystal is claiming that he said. I find this video extremely bewildering and misrepresenting the actual statements by Dario? This is not serious Kyle and honestly makes me think: "wtf are you doing guys - this kind of misrepresenting the speaker and blasting it Fox News style is what you are NOT suppose to do"

[@pomegranate6221]

And everyone thought Klaus Schwab's protege was making electric cars😅

[@nu385]

These men are insane.

[@buffooneryAUS]

I am for publicized robotics, not privatized. For the people, not just corpos.

[@wck]

Advocating to stop AI development is a really futile effort. This is a technology that is going to make everything significantly more efficient. America and China both are AGI as a national security concern. Wake up, this isn't going away. The best thing you can do now is advocate for the transition to a better system after human labor isn't needed anymore. You are foolish if you still think stopping it is the right move.

[@SavannahChild]

No, AI will make it possible for humans not to have to work...UBI needs to come in.

[@Leshpngo]

heck yeah!

[@KeelyPace]

Elon said something like,... 'Everyone is going to want a robot, because, why not ? ' AI is deeply troubling.

[@thedangerisreal]

Eat the rich. Long live the Children of Kali.

[@dianah3204]

Please don’t be surprised that AI WILL TAKE YOUR JOB!! It’s been in the works since 2013, but no one was paying attention! Suddenly one day you just watch as people find out they no longer have jobs or paychecks. Do you really think they care about actual humans?

[@flutieflambert]

Or. Maybe AI destroying all jobs is nothing but hype to raise revenue and inflate stock prices.

[@SummertimeSlavness]

The hype is absolutely insane. Elon has been saying we’ll have fully autonomous cars for 10 years now.

[@MrBearcatjew]

@@SummertimeSlavness or when honda and boston dynamics showed videos 20 years ago of robots, yet 20 years later and they are still showing the same videos saying robots are going to take over, its all hype to pump up tech stocks and since these tech companies have so much money and nothing to spend it on they do AI bs

[@AmericanJobsFactory]

That's why we need my organization.

[@cringeyacademic5035]

Almosy everyone hates their jobs. If they get taken by AI and we have UBI, humans can finally do what they're passionate about, not what their corporate overlords tell them to do. AI has the potential to be so freeing.

[@rjmichaelson5949]

I like your optimism. We can only hope that some sort of ethical standards will be laid out & adhered to before irrevocable mistakes are made.

[@c0rnichon]

There won't be UBI. You'll be fighting with the other homeless over moldy bread. If you're passionate about that, your future will be bright.

[@adventuroushermit2590]

Your If/And statement is contingent on rich people finally deciding to share even after they've fired you

[@cringeyacademic5035]

Humans have to purchase products for most industries to exist. The only way for corporations to make any money when their consumer base is jobless is to give them UBI.

[@TwoJuan25]

Let's hope the future turns out like that... cuz the other options are very, very bad.

[@BaronBacon]

'Broligarch' is now an official word.

[@michaelcarrig627]

It’s not like Marx didn’t describe this 150 years ago,

[@RommyAli]

Please tell me when and how Marx spoke about AI

[@robo_t]

@@RommyAliDid he not speak about automation, not in the ways we see it today but generally automated work

[@kurtj.9656]

Marx predicted capitalism destructing itself. Now we reckon he was right! 🤦

[@OfficialWorldChampion]

AI is also very bad for the environment

[@OANNAAS]

UBI is the future.

[@fuzzylogic3017]

UBI is a counterfeit idea. The original is the National Dividend proposed by Major Douglas a century ago.

[@stackchn]

A college 🎓 degree will be even more worthless. A software engineer and autoworker will both be obsolete. UBI is coming by the end of the decade...

[@greenbeans7573]

100% extinction of all life on Earth is coming by the end of the decade

[@patruff]

Krystal it's not Google, I mean maybe former Google employees but Dario was formerly OpenAI (also Google) and if anything they are getting most funding through Amazon. Oddly whenever I hear Dario speak he talks about "race to the top" and trying to implement safety with AI. Anthropic has the best coding model for coders and Kyle it's not goofy pictures it's a very useful tool. I think you guys are viewing this from your perspective. Anthropic is probably the best of the AI players right now. Anyway I agree there's a real danger but just wanted to say that I think you're downplaying the race and how some of the contestants are clearly more ethical than others.