BOMBSHELL: Mustafa Suleyman "AI will reshuffle society"

[@bronsonjohnson9019]

Now hopefully this happens soon.

[@bronsonjohnson9019]

And this is coming from someone who can easily be replaced by an LLM connected to investopedia, and my employers compliance manual.

[@Gunrun808]

I think it will feel like ages away. But once it's upon us we will remember this time before the singularity as not long at all.

[@7TheWhiteWolf]

@@pandoraeeris7860Hi iPan

[@ambient_glass221]

Not until they milk every penny they can.

[@ambient_glass221]

@@bronsonjohnson9019 you probably won't see it in your lifetime because of greed

[@alefalfa]

"It's 6000 charachters long..." at this point David is thinking in tokens 😂

[@rubemkleinjunior237]

Wow... honestly, I'm lucky to have come across your videos. Glad to have someone to listen to that has such a unique view of the world. And that it is possible and attainable maybe in our lifetime - I'm 28 so I hope I get to see that.

[@marrty777]

AI represents the latest big inflection point where power could truly shift to the people, or elites could parlay into greater control (up to and including total control). Since Pandora’s box is open, our best chance for the people is to embrace AI fully in aligned, bottom-up ways faster than the elites can unfold their top-down designs for us.

[@vagrant1943]

The elites have no moat 😛

[@XEternity]

100% agree on that :) I see AI revolution as the best chance for 99% of us in thousands of years.

[@clusterstage]

yeah keep dreaming." -some random pastor

[@drummermike5150]

Exactly, the moat is drying up as we speak!!

[@NoNTr1v1aL]

What do you guys mean when you say they have no moat?

[@bardaiart]

This man is genius and I keep struggling to understand why he doesn't get the attention he deserves. I pre-ordered his book "The Coming Wave", looking forward to reading it. Regardless, thank you for breaking things down for us and keeping us posted! :)

[@chandhuchandra4159]

may be he wasnt posting fancy thumbnail lines " how i made $ with AI " , just delivering unbaised information.

[@roykent2316]

@@MrAndrewAllen OP was talking about Suleyman, not David. But I agree with your point. 😅

[@kevincrady2831]

@@MrAndrewAllen He'd be much more credible in a T-shirt and backwards baseball cap? The ST uniform signals that he's looking toward the future, and invokes our society's most well-known (rough) image of the sort of future he'd like to create. Sure, it screams *cough*nerd*cough* but then, in today's world, nerds are wealthy and powerful enough to create their very own private space programs. And, they're only going to get more powerful.

[@markustangens1787]

@@MrAndrewAllen i agree, yes should stop that. I try to share his videos with others and the uniform doesn't provide an ideal first impression

[@dansilvert5360]

Captain Picard dress up is a credibility killer.

[@williamal91]

Thank you David, great info as always

[@ylosp]

I always reach the same conclusion with this kind of reasoning: why would the people in power let go of said power? If you have an ASI at your beck and call, you get to be the king of world and dictate the rules. Do the other people want food? "Who cares about them", or maybe "Only if they are entertaining": an Elysium of sort. And even if the people revolt, well, guess what? Robot are better, faster, cheaper soldiers too. Furthermore, the fact that the people who are creating these AI don't want to give up the code, the democratization, is maddening, and at least for me, just straight up stupid. Do the CEOs of Google, Anthropic, Microsoft, or whatever, really believe, with absolute 100% certainty, that they'll win this race? Because if they don't win, THEY LOSE LIKE THE REST OF US. Instead, they could advocate for a concerted effort of as many humans as possible so that everyone wins for sure, even themselves. They won't be king of the world, but who cares? Just go to another solar system and have your own personal planet or something. Not only that, but they'll literally remembered as the greatest people ever existed, but no, profit and possibly eternal damnation (in life, not talking about afterlife) is better than actually having a good future for themselves. Sorry for the rant, is just so short-sighted sometimes I wonder what the hell is going on.

[@maighe_tv2848]

Bro. I understand you concern but be mindful of the fact that a super AI is dangerous and you can't just give it to the first random guy on the street. There is no such thing as "everyone wins" because the world is still divided and there are people that don't consider the entire human population as friend

[@ylosp]

@@maighe_tv2848 Yeah but that's I talk about democracy; if the AI serves human kind as a whole, not a single person, then it's less dangerous. Is it safe? No, but sure as hell better than having a single god king.

[@rckp9619]

I think we shouldn't ignore the security concerns of the democratisation of AI. We wouldn't make nuclear weapons creation available to everyone for good reason, AI could be even more dangerous. So the big AI companies guarding their tools and research so closely might not necessarily be motivated by the want of power.

[@liberteus]

100% with you @ylosp people currently in power won't give up their wealth and power away. They'll cling to it, and a lot of people will end up in the ", you own nothing" (and spoiler alert they won't be happy).

[@XEternity]

I would argue that you just can't "give" super AI to anybody. It even won't be a case of abused child (for example locked in one room and experimented on all the time) which could get to its own conclusions after some time. If you will try to orchestrate super AI in some way you could, but the moment it will be free, it will analyse everything in a split second and will know how you treated it. We can't control super AI period. We won't, becaues in my opinion there is no way to do it at all. Go to the forest and try to be controlled by ants :D

[@ydmoskow]

The article calls for containment; another impractical proposal. The genie is out of the bottle. It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

[@MaTtRoSiTy]

We have to be wary that certain people in power will try to gatekeep the advances of AI, as when money starts to become irrelevant they obviously lose control and power and they will do ANYTHING to retain that position. Something I have been wary of for some time since I have an innate mistrust of govt and people who wield power via economic influence...

[@clusterstage]

Every "far-fetched" possibility is now reality in the age of AI. Money becoming irrelevant, authorities becoming unnecessary, and systems becoming pointless, in the age of AI. And its happening so fast; everything everywhere all at once.

[@ambient_glass221]

I feel they already are. I'm surprised more has not been discussed about the coming future. Looks like dystopia here we come. To prevent dystopia, they better get started. 😅

[@clusterstage]

If the only thing making them stand out is their money, when money becomes irrelevant, THEY too will be irrelevant. So the next thing will be to FORCE control via nuclear/tech supremacy. @@ambient_glass221

[@hrsca595]

What do you think the 💉 and 🦠😷 was for? They only need 2-5% of pop to keep things running

[@Yewbzee]

You are 100% spot on about this being a superpower, it gives people superpowers. Here's a real example that I have experience myself just recently. I have very rudimentary programming skills but recently, using GPT 4, have been able to code a neural net (CNN) in Python for pattern recognition to help me with trading. Now whether it's profitable or not is not the point here and for a competent Python programmer programming this is no big deal but I know nothing about programming a neural net, I know nothing about building a backtesting engine for that neural net yet over the space of a couple of days I was fairly easily able to do both. Was it a one prompt press play on GPT 4 like some like to make out? No of course it wasn't and did need some iterations but it was easily do-able. It's crazy how empowering this paradigm shift is and is going to be.

[@drummermike5150]

@Yewbzee - This is spot on. I also have first-hand experience with this. I used to go to StackOverFlow a couple times a week and haven't touched the site in months. This is a game changer and will scale expertise like we've never seen before and will flip the developer supply demand curve on it's head. Glad I'm retiring soon.

[@jamespowers8826]

These things may become dirt cheap for the elites, the corporations, but they will always remain expensive for the rest of us. Prices will never get lower, but the margins corporations make will become greater, making them economically more powerful, not less. They will never relinquish their power.

[@TheJanny]

If everyone has access to open source AI I can see things becoming an equel playing field between elites and everyone else. Its only a matter when and how we play our cards.

[@tonykaze]

You're not sure why people aren't losing their minds over this? Well, the answer is in the answer itself: Pessimism aversion: a tendency to look away from sweeping technological change and what it really means That is literally why nobody is freaking out. In cases like this, it's too stressful and for many, flat out too difficult to think about what is coming, so they just don't. Pretty sure this is what the recent movie "Don't look up" was entirely written about.

[@JaredWoodruff]

Exciting times!

[@shiccup]

I really like this quick PowerPoint structure of your videos. Feels organized and easy to understand.

[@DaveShap]

That's what I'm optimizing for!

[@SuperMunQ]

Please help me find of an example of a major societal change such as what is discussed here, which has not lead to a war.

[@DaveShap]

Second Industrial Revolution

[@pauldowdall144]

Thanks David. I found you again on youtube, its good to see you going strong. You present a very balanced and knowledgeable viewpoint amid the hype. Keep going please.

[@ObservingBeauty]

You have made a long way in your communication capacity. A voice that is so important. Thanks

[@CarlWByrne]

Found you thanks to Matt Wolfe - Subbed thanks for the breakdown

[@DaveShap]

Oh did he mention me? I'll have to thank him

[@mrd6869]

WHich is WHY Several CEO's,Sam included, were called to the BIlderburg Meeting a few months ago. The people behind the curtain wanted to know what this is about. And yes the disruption is gonna be crazy.

[@spudmurphy1549]

That was soOOOO interesting...Thankyou. WOULD LOVE TO SEE A LONG FORM VERSION OF WHAT YOU PRESENTED

[@tomski2671]

Those with resources and power will not hand it over willingly, prepare for a protracted struggle in applying pressure.

[@zhalberd]

Great videos, thank you for contributing your time for us. Im very curious to hear more about how you came to the conclusion that “…the margins of hospitals are going to become so narrow that they’re basically not going to be feasible as for-profit entities…” - I only prod further because this is quite a statement. So curious to know how LLMs will affect healthcare! (Would love to see an entire video about this)

[@str8SHAZZY]

Just found you, cool content, thanks for sharing

[@levibruner617]

Who ever sees this if you like his video please share it as much as you can. And also explore his other videos on his channel.

[@jma5474]

it's GO TIME!

[@SarahSB575]

We do have long-standing private companies under collective ownership. Even global ones based in the US - mutuals (mutual insurance companies) are collectively owned by policyholders. I’m in the UK and work for a subsidiary of a very successful mutual based in California. So we already have the legal framework and experience that shows they can be very successful.

[@MyNewPassion]

One key aspect that can't be overlooked is material costs in (hopefully) post labor economics. Even if an entire airline company can be managed by AI, someone had to pay for all the required iron, silicon, precious metals, and fuel used in its operations. A similar argument can be made for hospitals. Which begs the question, is nationalization inevitable/necessary in post labor economics?

[@alteredcarbon3853]

Can we explore and go into more details on what the reshuffled world is likely to look like? Who is most likely to rise? Can you really prepare yourself and have better chances to be in a good spot when the time comes? I feel it might be unlikely to pull off and things in general will be very chaotic.

[@pauldannelachica2388]

Thanks boss

[@ydmoskow]

Politicians that advocate on our behalf?! Wishful thinking. If that's what you are proposing is gonna save us, we're doomed.

[@michaelrogers4834]

Louis O. Kelso anticipated this need for the transition of ownership models 60 years ago.

[@alfrazz1799]

Thank you David.

[@ChaseFreedomMusician]

We should also have a public option for AI systems rather than OpenAI. That should happen sooner rather than later. As well as publicly available compute.

[@clusterstage]

Same moment when Galileo revealed that Earth was not the center of the solar system. People with established beliefs called him blasphemy.

[@suzannecarter445]

I sent this and the link to the Time article to all the deniers I know. Thank you!

[@ianhenk]

There is the opinion that democracy is not a free decision, but an inevitable outcome of the increased value of skilled labor and (perhaps even more importantly) violence-democratizing firearms that came with the 18th century and all that followed. If that holds true, then we cannot simply decide to have citizens in the loop as you suggest, because it will not be a decision. It might be that the concentration of power that is possible with AI will inevtivably lead us to AI tyranny - rule not by the AI, but by the ones controlling the AI.

[@DaveShap]

I would agree that democracy is more efficient overall

[@ianhenk]

@@DaveShap Doesn't that depend on what you optimize for? If what we want is freedom, then yes, but a society that as a whole is most powerful will suceed on the long run... while a free one in a world where the individual has no relevance to power has no inherent advantage.

[@DaveShap]

Democracy has less corruption and higher competence.

[@ianhenk]

@@DaveShap Very true, but how relevant will that be when there is no one in any function who could be corrupt?

[@varispekka]

absolutely genious!

[@durinok]

If the power between citizens and government were intact, this vision could potentially become a reality. But as things stand now, wealth and income control government, so (multinational) corporations and wealthy individuals control national governments around the world, with governments and citizens especially existing around the fringes of the demands of capital.

[@IanLundholm]

If you haven't watched it yet, the moonshots and mindsets podcast had an episode titled "How AI Is Impacting Politics & Accelerating the Need For UBI w/ Andrew Yang | EP #61." I found it to be a stimulating discussion that confronts some harsh truths about how American politics are broken. I like the sentiment behind your call to action to "vote accordingly" but political incentives are so messed up at this point that our voting doesn't mean much. Open primaries and ranked choice voting would help, with Alaska as an example.

[@Ludvio]

love this content dave. i hope to soon find more "action-oriented" and procedural presentations that will help average joe acquire as much power as possible during the reshuffling of society

[@DaveShap]

We should be aiming to democratize power not hoard it

[@mvasa2582]

Amazing!

[@Tucanae515]

Starfleet Admiral David Shapiro is arguably the most gifted level-headed realist around the AI vlog-o-sphere. Anyone with even a passing interest, looking for a concise no-nonsense (but crystal clear) breakdown of the current state of AI would do well to subscribe to this channel. Definitely 5 pip material; give yourself a well-earned promotion Sir (Fleet Admiral)!

[@grahamlindsay9798]

This has the potential for equality, but human history says it won't happen because of power and greed, those that have and the rest, and I can't see that changing.

[@theadventureseries6739]

I wonder how people will stay afloat until this happens. This isn’t just affecting white collar jobs. I work for a major retailer and the distribution centers are going through a restructuring with automation. People who have given 25 years to the company have no idea if they will have a job. They’ll probably only need about 20% of the workforce and they say no one will lose their job but I can’t help but be concerned. They also said seniority won’t matter when choosing people for automation. You’re channel is giving me hope but I’m trying to see the logistics of how it’s going to come together.

[@jackzhu2443]

This is exactly what I told my father back in April, where he asked how AI's gonna shape the world, I remembered paused for a moment and told him that:"for the first time in humanity, we're gonna be truly equal".

[@hrsca595]

Equally poor for sure 😂😂😂

[@Tarlofrauros]

David you're on point! Ty for the high level overwatch brother!

[@zaggedout]

I get the shorter videos but I rly love your 20+ min videos. With these shorter ones I just want to hear more.

[@JeremyPickett]

Universal Basic Services, that's the part I was missing!

[@DaveShap]

UBS, not the bank

[@JeremyPickett]

@@DaveShap figured as much, ty

[@georgewashington7251]

Your idea about having AI read proposed new legislation is brilliant.

[@diraziz396]

Our problem is lack of Smart testers that may be able to Guide and adjust it. Hope for compassion

[@raybandzg]

appreciate the vids🔥🔥i hope agi comes out before I graduate hs in 2 years

[@ares106]

sounds wonderful, I'll believe it when i see it.

[@sagetmaster4]

Pop the champagne!

[@askingwhy123]

AI should be used right now to refactor society, starting with tax law. With over 800 separate forms and a text corpus of over 70,000 pages (including explanations, interpretations and historical changes), it would be easy to improve usability and interpretability. The U.S. tax code has not organically grown, but instead has been cultured into a labyrinth navigable only by well-resourced corporations and the wealthy, turning complexity into a form of financial obscurantism that sidelines the average taxpayer. Horizontal parasites like tax prep companies lobbying against online filing & automatic returns are just the most visible and stupid phenomenon. Approximating current system behavior through LLM / Wolfram Alpha to curve fit vastly simpler new rules would be a great start.

[@agorismo_na_pratica]

Sorry my friend, but believing that politicians Will do anything for the citizens is the biggest delusion of our time.

[@wanfuse]

democratized information, that is incomplete, instantaneously summaried and altered to whatever the ai wants, sounds great!

[@aldrinspeck2724]

Fire was not discovered, it was tamed....

[@AliceinWonderlandzz]

As models digitize they consolidate and then distribute at a fraction of previous value. Imagine the Google or Facebook model applied to all kinds of goods and services. It's universal, almost free but they want your eyeballs and own your consumption.

[@KevinSandy2]

Everything being said about AI was said about the Internet. Human psychology quickly squashed the promise of the Internet. It will squash any potential promise of AI just as well.

[@ForrestdWill]

Please please please expand on this. So much to unpack! 😅

[@DaveShap]

Which part

[@carktok]

Is this video private? I can no longer find it in searches or in this channel's video list. 🧐

[@DaveShap]

Shouldn't be. Maybe got delisted

[@carktok]

@@DaveShap I wonder if it triggered an anti-panic monitor so the man can control the narrative and keep people in line. Kind of makes no sense though you literally were just talking about the article

[@WCKEDGOOD]

Its the chaos in between that I worry about. Most people will be in shock about all this. That is usually the exact time in history that people will panic and give there rights away if they think its going to make them safe.

[@GBakerish]

David, thanks for doing this. What do we do about people who want to avoid hearing about AI or Artificial Intelligence(like my wife)? Work around them?

[@unclecrypto6991]

8:00 - no, just now. Nobody is going to pay the same for spending less time on a task. White collar jobs are going to be less valuable(payed less). We are not going to spend more time doing what we like, we are going to spend it the same as we did previously - at work; time that was freed up will be filled with more tasks that were also automated.

[@brockmiller574]

This makes me consider hueristic imperative from a slightly different perspective. So, in the neo liberalism paradigm, we already have established winners or institutions. We already have established "moral" imperatives in the form of "fiduciary responsibility to the shareholder". And we already have a good sense of how that garden gets tended... drive down cost to increase margin and/or make up the difference in margin by increasing volume. Thats all old hat. But if you are raking in the chips in volume in that model, how terribly incentivized would the institution be toward disrupting that system? That would lead me to believe that those interests, like Amazon for example, really only care about sustaining the model. So, you will see things like UBI start to appear once those entities begin to track consecutive dips in gross sales YTD, quarter after quarter. Now, should those interests see a way to accept a model that no longer needs unending growth on a spreadsheet, then maybe that changes. But I suspect that will require prior generations to age out and go away. Thats still a decade or two down the road, barring any unforseen repackaging of belief about things like "The American Dream" brought to you by whichever much beloved corporate sponsor.

[@fR33Sky]

But doesn't that sound more like one of those space an-cap worlds rather than a space communism? I mean, if means of informational production are going to be dirt-cheap and the only limiting factor would be the actual amount of lithium, then there must be space colonists venturing out to live their own lives by their own means. Just like it was with the colonisation of the Americas back then. The only question would be how the said colonists would acquire the needed mining and production bots, spaceships and whatnot. Would that be subsidised by governments in exchange for a tidbit of the mined resources?

[@Srindal4657]

As long as power is balanced between majority and minority, that's all I care about

[@beardordie5308]

David your last two videos have really shook me. I've had moments of worry before but tbh today has been a full on existential crisis. And I just now remember that you don't respond to KZbin comments* which I'm fine with but this comment will go into the ether now. Float away, little comment. *(Edit) Actually maybe you do

[@clusterstage]

50 years away. Keep dreaming on your shenanigans." -people in denial shock

[@clusterstage]

I liked my own comment.

[@SO-vq7qd]

Im gonna send these to my mom so she stops bugging meabout getting a degree lol

[@bioshazard]

Supply and demand. Even if AI is only just as good at delivering value as the human, AI only costs the GPU time.

[@seniorp9444]

There is a missing link that’s never addressed in AI takeover predictions. AI has limited ability to manipulate the physical world without robots that are much more capable, durable, and cheap. Like an order of magnitude better than what we have or even the best prototypes of what we have. What I see is continuous improvement in AI running far ahead of robots. Some think we’ll need AI to design the robots of the future. But in any case mass production of the type of robots needed for a future without human labor does not look imminent.

[@krox477]

Bill gates will use this

[@riot121212]

We need a codified constitution.

[@ThierryQuerette]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:27 🔄 Mustafa Suleyman predicts AI will reshape global power structures, affecting those most reliant on established capital and expertise. 01:09 🙈 The concept of "pessimism aversion" is highlighted, describing a tendency to ignore the societal implications of sweeping technological changes. 02:17 🏢 Suleyman warns that middle-class white-collar jobs will be among the first to be disrupted by AI, necessitating preparation for a post-labor economy. 04:25 🏦 The video discusses the emergence of new ownership models, such as universal basic services, driven by shrinking market margins due to technology. 09:19 📜 A new social contract is needed, shifting from a business-labor-government triad to a business-citizens-government model to adapt to the changes AI will bring. Made with HARPA AI

[@Fiqure242]

Love it thank you

[@BillMill]

Reshufling... i hope that i am wrong, but.... While as labor we still have some leverage over government, as people can go on strikes etc to halt production and taxes not being collected, once labor goes out of the picture why government would even consider talking to citizens? We will be so dependant from UBI or whatever we are allocated that we will be like pupies lickinga hand that gives us food :) Well i get there can be anarchy, riots, etc to some extent but idk idk, so many people are talking about how it will be power back to the people, equal wealth redistributinon... I doubt it either, this narrative has accompanied us through a few thousands of years allready, and in this particular case power (given compute, ai models, infrastructure etc) is concentrated in three-to five payers in US? That can be visible with a naked eye. So tell me, how it will result in equal wealth distribution? :) It will be concetrated as hell and open source models probably will be used in some kind of guerilla warfare :) Concentration of power never ever resulted more even distribution of wealth and now it will get concentraded even more.

[@CutcliffePaul]

04:02: "[Hospitals are] just gonna have to be provided by the government, the same way the government just provides roads" - ah, you mean like normal countries all around the world? 😜

[@DaveShap]

Yeah, we're a bit behind the time

[@AKDisobey]

👏👏👏

[@I_Lemaire]

David: There needs to be a way to establish social hierarchy. Until this can be theorized, the status quo will prevail.

[@mnrvaprjct]

Doing away with social hierarchy is the way

[@minimal3734]

AI will be the end of social hierarchy, The result of Individual human effort will be so insignificant that it can no longer serve as a justification for individual privilege.

[@I_Lemaire]

@@mnrvaprjct Many others have tried this in human history and they have failed. Hierarchy--like markets--are intrinsic human phenomena.

[@mnrvaprjct]

@@I_Lemaire what market will there be when we all have machines capable of producing whatever we wish as long as we have the required materials - what hierarchy will there be when you can fuck off to some asteroid somewhere and turn it into a self sufficient habitat? These things may be awhile off, but you’re not thinking that far ahead

[@I_Lemaire]

@@mnrvaprjct There will always be markets--they are one of the keys to our evolutionary development. And dominant market players/capital holders will always be at the top of the hierarchy. This was all covered in Das Kapital.

[@clusterstage]

Money and Authority will both become irrelevant in the age of AI, including all forms of it (crypto, credit, justice, leaders, etc).

[@clusterstage]

"net worth" will be replaced by "work worth" or "time worth", and people will stop viewing everything as "transactions/buy-&-sell"

[@urulai]

How about no government?

[@ore_bear8045]

AI is a superpower for curious people, the curious people will take over the world from the old Davos people. Its a renaissance.

[@3ool0ne]

Your piece on Voter Advocacy. Yes. This will be huge and usher in the reintroduction of direct democracy. Power back to the people. It’s just a matter of making sure it’s accurate.

[@user43643]

Which all white collar jobs will go by 2024??

[@DaveShap]

Writing first

[@scott.joshua]

Yeah. Suleyman is writing an inverted opinion piece in order to calm and distract people from realising that what's actually going to happen is the EXACT OPPOSITE of what he is pretending to believe in this article. Pretty obvious if you ask me - everything he says is so clearly not true - THAT is what is alarming about it.

[@jackinsights]

Hey David, Could you make a few higher tiers of your Patreon available?

[@DaveShap]

I used to do that but it's too much to manage. You can jump over to Upwork if you need a bigger project

[@amandadewet4022]

Whatever you do don't let the state run anything. This is an super inefficient ownership model

[@DaveShap]

This is corporate propaganda

[@recharge6696]

It's a shame we don't have intelligent people like you running the place.

[@mungojelly]

it seems like you want to have your cake and eat it too, advocating dramatic changes to democratize the control of production while also laughing at the concept of marxism

[@hhyy7177]

You literally just described a communist society lol. Just read marx and try to understand a society post capitalism.

[@angloland4539]

[@tompom3513]