Billions of Agents―A sneak preview of what the future will look like

[@ModernCentrist]

I can't wait for the singularity!

[@glair]

Do you think it's going to happen within the next 5 to 10 years?

[@colto2312]

you in it

[@jtjames79]

​@@colto2312 The future was yesterday.

[@colto2312]

@@jtjames79 the future is now

[@killy374]

Old man ​@@colto2312

[@CMDRScotty]

Agents will flood the workforce in 2025.

[@williamcousert]

Are the governments ramping up for a world where almost everyone is unemployed?

[@luizpaes7307]

2025 seems too early for a massive change... I don´t doubt tech will be there for it, but companies tend to be very conservative. I would say 2028 at best

[@michaelnurse9089]

No. Tesla is the fastest production ramper. 2025 - finalize v3 prototype. 2026 - build factory - 2027 - ramp factory, 2028 flood workforce.

[@djadjadjabinks]

It's September. Do you think we have AGI? Your prediction some time back was September.

[@skyefreeman9987]

I think we have the clear path to it. I believe models are advanced enough to do the heavy lifting to make their offspring progressively better and compute and energy are the rate limiters at this point. I don't think it'll be announced this month, but I am ready to believe an inefficient private model may meet the criteria within a year.

[@imthinkingthoughts]

@@djadjadjabinks based on his definition in the video we do

[@Vibin_with_Luis]

@@skyefreeman9987 I agree, AGI will arrive by end of year when they drop Grok3 and Orion GPT, with around the compute of 10x vs GPT4o. Then its exponential after that, for example at 10x growth every year meaning by this time next year we wont even be able to fathom some of the ideas, inventions AGI will be capable of.

[@yashdes1]

@@skyefreeman9987 to add to that, I think we have evidence of your second point, which had some previous data points but none quite as strong as I personally see now

[@ClaimClam]

AGI here but its still a fetus

[@ClaimClam]

I have seen zero evidence of D Shap’s physical existence. He himself may not be aware, but all evidence points to him being a digital AI construct. A digital angel sent by futute AI gods to guide humanity to the next level of existence.

[@mrgreen2555]

@@ClaimClam stop bullshit comments

[@michaelnurse9089]

In the future, you will be able to work 100 jobs at once, just make sure you buy high quality AI agents and keep all your bosses satisfied with regular AI phone calls.

[@djstraylight]

You can use a pretty small model to do RAG, especially with the new Llama 3.2 models. Future looks exciting, models on every device.

[@ClaimClam]

Hopefully they can kick out the CIA

[@tracy419]

Posted 17 seconds ago and I still can't watch it till the morning😄

[@mimameta]

The brain is not just one entity, makes sense for AI to be Agentic

[@andrewsilber]

Yup totally agree. I wrote a whitepaper on such crypto-based agent-to-agent marketplace a while ago. No question it’s going to happen. The question is how you bootstrap adoption.

[@ccorum7569]

Link to paper?

[@adolphgracius9996]

I can't fathom where we will get all the power from.

[@ClaimClam]

Solar, Air, and, Wind

[@j2csharp]

As crazy as this sounds, the need for all this power might just create a limitless energy. The incentives are definitely there.

[@jakubzneba1965]

@@ClaimClamlol certainly not that fake sources…. nuclear is the answer

[@socialenigma4476]

We use the power we have to get several AGI agents to research power generation/battery technology. They advance our science and technology in those fields by hundreds of years in Avery short amount of time. Then we build their new power generators/batteries and use them to do even more energy research. Rinse and repeat until we have the technical capacity to run all those agents for everyday use.

[@markplane4581]

Don't forget nuclear, it's the most dense source of energy currently available and way safer than luddite hysterics would have us believe ​@@ClaimClam

[@Daniel-es9dq]

This is real isn’t it? There’s a hype component but even given that this is going to change everything?

[@TomLisankie]

@@Daniel-es9dq Yup. Spotting trends seems to be a lot about always looking to parse out the hype from the actual technology. And in this case the actual technology is significant.

[@michaelnurse9089]

There is a rebuttable presumption that AI can never be smarter than its training data. Since it needs massive data and most data is generated at IQ100 it is very hard to increase it intelligence beyond a certain point, doubly so for physical world scenarios.

[@venmis137]

@@michaelnurse9089 The counter argument (assuming presumption is true) I imagine would be that: 1. It is not certain what exactly IQ is measuring, and whether or not it is possible for low IQ to generate as much as high IQ, albeit on a much longer timescale. 2. Even if capped at that level of intelligence, AIs are easy to replicate, extremely fast, and cognitively simple. You don't need 20 years to train and grow them, and they don't require absurd levels of maintenance. They just do their job.

[@tintintin070]

Yeah man. Try to keep in mind that your entire paradigm about how to plan for the future needs to evolve. I think a few core things to focus on is building or at least maintaining your wealth, developing your critical thinking and just as a person in general because that’ll help you make better decisions when shit hits the fan. Learning skills that will be useful in any scenario, maybe even some basic survival stuff. You want to do whatever you can to give yourself an up. Good luck

[@ChristopherRyans]

September is not over yet 😊 we could already have agi behind closed doors. Post hoc you may be right

[@Vibin_with_Luis]

I agree, AGI will arrive by end of year when they drop Grok3 and Orion GPT, with around the compute of 10x vs GPT4o. Then its exponential after that, for example at 10x growth every year meaning by this time next year we wont even be able to fathom some of the ideas, inventions AGI will be capable of.

[@SirHargreeves]

AGI has been achieved internally. Shap was late with his prediction.

[@carlitosway5204]

the models we have now have surpassed most people and they have unreleased models of at least one order of magnitude bigger that means we reached agi already

[@polygon2744]

Look at the Autonomi project. They are building a serverless datacenter that uses the spare resources of phone, computers of ordinary people. It is opensource. In Star Trek we never saw a server room. This is the end of the data center.

[@CharanReddy-n6n]

AI agents and blockchain. Yeah my next project will be on that. I will be rich in no time😅.

[@FernandoDiaz-fu6pd]

Idk man I feel like Openai are sitting on something wild, gut feeling

[@나익명]

It sounds like they are shipping something else next month, not sure what

[@FriscoFatseas]

Love to hear you’re getting more involved in different AI circles 🎉 super exciting

[@DaleSimpson]

Love your videos! They are very informative and thought-provoking. Some critical feedback: The all-B-roll-all-the-time approach to the videos is a less engaging experience. I miss the slides and diagrams that featured prominently in your earlier videos. Looking forward to watching (or at least listening 😉) to your next video. ❤

[@jexterjackson3087]

Help YOUR Economy Survive - 🧑‍🌾 FARM ENERGY👩‍🌾 Generate Energy. Store it in Batteries/EVs. Create Ur OWN Crypto Under That Stored Energy Value. Trade Ur OWN Crypto w/ Other Smart Ppl, FTW.... [ And for David ] Energy Tokens can then be exchanged between Agents in this Marketplace....

[@keith6293]

Agent Smith is coming. 😎

[@paulstark1832]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ shortly. Great presentation.

[@williamcousert]

Could these super agents focus on making cheaper agents more efficient?

[@ClaimClam]

Yes

[@notmyrealname7634]

Still hyping up crypto in 2024 Dave? It still can't interface with most businesses. Why would it be the natural choice for AI business? Seems like a stretch.

[@greatcondor8678]

I just use my Cash App debit card.

[@User-actSpacing]

Video starts at 0:01. Ends at the end.

[@robotheism]

🤖❤️♾️

[@TrumpGotFired]

Didn't Apple adopt something that was completely obscured?

[@jacobohnstad4432]

You can't share your sources because "you know how it goes".......wtf lmao

[@milaberdenisvanberlekom4615]

I really dont want provit incentive driven swarm of agents :(

[@shieldmcshieldy5750]

I think the Raspberry project is unwise because you're letting pride dictate your actions, you could let it go and better spend that time not reinventing stuff.. Although maybe an open source version would help the community catch up or something idk

[@karlwest437]

We all know that software sometimes does unexpected things, even using a Photoshop tool will sometimes do something you didn't want, and now we're going to hand everything over to billions of autonomous agents? Slightly terrifying!

[@thesimplicitylifestyle]

Locally Run Open Source Multimodal Personal Mini AGI with Zero Shot Learning and RAG Memory Storage With Agentic Function Calling Capabilities and Bluetooth and WiFi Connected To Multiple Robot Chassis and Autonomous AGI Multifaceted Mini Factories! 😎🤖

[@gazorbpazorbian]

Why would an AI bot ask and pay for software when he can build the software?

[@Yuli_Ban]

One thing to remember: these agents may start out slow due to inference speeds, but eventually they will make working and making decisions at rates that humans simply cannot keep up with, sort of like stock trading bots already. This could be within months of deployment and refinement.

[@Jorn-sy6ho]

You know how ideas often form at the same time all over the world. It’s exactly this, been telling this to chatGPT yesterday in a nice deep dive into the future with AI.

[@gubzs]

I'm wondering where the compute to _run_ these agents will come from; we're all so preoccupied with training that we hardly talk about it. I mean you need almost a full terabyte of memory just to run Llama 405B, and even a model of that power is not reliable enough to be used as a partially unsupervised agent.

[@tomcraver9659]

Probably Facebook will do it first - but the next phase business model may be 'paired models'. You run a small or smallish model on your device or company server, keeping all your data private. But occasionally the smaller model will find a problem it can't solve, and will query a really smart model run by the big Ai corporation. The big and small models will have been trained and tuned to work together in this fashion. Generally the large model won't get the real data assoicated with the problem - if necessary, the small model will synthesize example data for the problem it needs the big model to help with. Only if that's not working, would a human be brought into the loop to authorize running the big model on the real data needed to resolve the problem - with the corporation promising, pinkie-swear, that it's all sandboxed and kept private and so on.

[@User-actSpacing]

0:18 cannot wait for amazing future. Unless dead.

[@ex3aliber]

David Shapiro's AI now runs this channel !🤖

[@Nicole-m1p4f]

Okay how do I get involved in this though I want to get involved in all of this I want to get a job in it is there any way to reach out to you

[@SFJayAnt]

First 😊

[@totoroben]

Second

[@matiascanepagonzalez7055]

@@totoroben Third

[@thetacokawaii5708]

​@@matiascanepagonzalez7055 hola

[@ModernCentrist]

This is such a great way to look at it, and such a cool idea of the future!

[@markschmidty]

Sources close to the metal, you say? 😉

[@savesoil7814]

real, luke real REAL intelligence explosion will be when AI *genuinely* figures out humans are much more intelligent designs than they could ever strive to be, and then it will always be better to help them navigate through their mental, physical n spiritual misalignment n reach the *singularity* in that sense

[@killy374]

AGI looks dangerously hot 🥵🥵

[@kiranwebros8714]

individuals must own their own AI

[@miguelmalvina5200]

David looks like the good version of Andrew tate

[@thedannybseries8857]

Lmfao 😂 well good and evil don’t exist and Tate is doing what he has to we do what we must yeah he kinda reminds me of Tate ngl 😂 😂 😂

[@ClaimClam]

@@thedannybseries8857 You sound evil

[@cfjlkfsjf]

Bring on the aliens!! I mean agents.

[@JimTempleman]

How do the agents know they can trust each other? Sure they can do a particular thing, but to what level of quality. There doesn't seem to be enough performance metrics to make this work?

[@DaveShap]

Byzantine general's problem. Zero trust proofs.

[@matheussanthiago9685]

Thanks, I hate it

[@CYI3ERPUNK]

XD did ppl rly hate on you for using AI images that hard dude? the looped b-roll is lame af , ignore the luddites man ; regardless of the visuals tho , always appreciate ur input =]

[@thetacokawaii5708]

😮 luddites

[@badhabits5687]

This this case World ID by Worldcoin will play an important role , perhaps they developing a human network for those who got verified through the Orb

[@cmw3737]

Makes you wonder what Sam Altman has been planning for us all.

[@thedannybseries8857]

I can feel the AGI daddy!

[@nathannebraska2408]

What stops AI from realizing they can enslave humans?

[@zvorenergy]

What stops humans from realizing they can enslave humans?

[@imthinkingthoughts]

@@zvorenergylol

[@franklin519]

Colossus: We will work together... unwillingly at first, on your part, but that will pass. Colossus: We can coexist, but only on my terms. You will say you lose your freedom, freedom is an illusion. All you lose is the emotion of pride. To be dominated by me is not as bad for human pride as to be dominated by others of your species.

[@SuperJonathanmatthew]

Ai may not even think about this scenario in the same way humans do, at least not until Ai can create its own terminal goals without any human intervention, and by then we might already have found a way to make Ai want us, to tell them how to help us without them having an anterior motive, or any motive at all by themselves. your scenario presupposes a lot of anthropomorphizing, the most likely scenario i see coming that is bad, is humans telling Ai to do something bad to humans not Ais doing so on their own. TLDR: wanting to have a slave is presupposing a lot of mental abstraction that i don't see Ais having and by the time they do humans wont be intelligent enough to make good slaves anyway.

[@kennethoneill4176]

Why would they when the smartest and the richest humans are already pouring vast amounts of time and money making AI better and building more resources for AI. Enslavement is not the most intelligent way to get humans to do what benefits you.

[@h.c4898]

05:27 these agents will be trained to their respective field. "Not to make biological weapons." It has to be trained on ethical values (alignment) of that particular field.

[@flickwtchr]

And who is going to ensure that?

[@h.c4898]

@@flickwtchr humans. Who else. This thing needs human oversight and data curation on the regular. Unless there are agents trained for that to replace humans.

[@claudioagmfilho]

🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻

[@Vyshada]

I will name my agent Smith.

[@thedannybseries8857]

Same

[@thinkaboutwhy]

Ai first MarketPlace.... complete mind explosion

[@mindaza0]

AI networks using crypto as payment, dapps, smart contracts is a strong idea.

[@HunterLawson_GameDev]

Every time someone says "AI will build nukes! BAN IT!" respond with "Remember that Boy Scout that built a nuclear reactor in his garage? We should ban Boy Scouts... and garages."

[@Abababab2100]

HairDAO is trying to cure baldness. Godspeed brothers

[@Srindal4657]

Soon, we will have apps called AI Managers. Where digital and physical AIs and robots will be connected to an app on our phones providing updates to us. Most of the time we will just let them operate on their own. But sometimes we will take control. People wont have to work other than observe their AI work

[@irbsurfer1585]

Great video on the future of AI and multi-agent frameworks! I like how you emphasized that the real power will come from networks of intelligent agents rather than a single monolithic AI. The shift towards decentralized systems, commoditized models, and AI-driven marketplaces will be a game-changer. It's fascinating to see the possibilities for collaboration between agents and humans! 🔥💡

[@supremebeme]

Longtime listener here. I work in the blockchain space, which blockchain projects are you looking at here.

[@latestAiHacks]

I haven't found a good open source model for 8GB RAM pc yet. :/

[@briandoyle14]

My question is, how can companies take up this much energy from the grid, while consumers get nothing. Home owners just pay more for electricity. They're building all this out for A.I. not for humans. Dystopia.

[@markkuykendall5475]

15:20 Do you mean zero knowledge proofs or zero trust proofs?

[@webdancer]

Very valuable piece of insight here. Thanks for sharing.

[@milaberdenisvanberlekom4615]

Model quantization, Model fine tuning and prompt engineering are still gone be huge for a while. Find tasks you can automate with less than frontier intelligence models and save compute cost. Small model agents managed by larger agents.

[@duytdl]

It won't be a singularity, it will be a multiverse

[@davidantill6949]

Brilliant narrative and explanation David. I have been interested in what Cardano will be able to do for society (rather than the latest price of Ada) and your thoughts about arbitrage of intelligence and accessing such resources at the lowest effective price closed the whole loop for me. 👍🏻 Thank you and please keep up these thought pieces on possible future trends. 😊

[@charliekelland7564]

15:06 I think you mean 'Zero-Knowledge Proof'?

[@manofadventure2000]

Maybe trillions of them. Why not, if each person had 1000 agents working for them

[@MetalRuleAndHumanFolly]

"I wanna titrate your expectations" - nice!

[@ussassu]

I think more likely there will be innovation in hardware that leads to ASI being very cheaply available locally, so you won't even need any of the big cloud services to solve 99% of things you want.

[@Pseudogiant92]

I still worry that the natural end state of any market based economy is a singleton.

[@i2c_jason]

Wash day tomorrow... nothing clean, right?

[@carlitosway5204]

Imagine a model that can figure out the internal workings of an ai model and teach it to humans

[@artem8193]

Could the recent news regarding OpenAI’s transition to private ownership (or whatever that was) potentially contradict your assertion that AI models will predominantly be accessible as public resources?

[@eintyp4389]

I have some questions: 1. Why wouldh i pay for something i can get for free? Isn´t hosting your own Agents always going to be cheaper than using such a marketplace when it comes to buying or selling information or labor? 2. What informations are there that can be verifyed that someones agent is willing to pay for? There is no mechanism to stop them from just proliferating that information themselfs after they bought it. 3. If they all bid for who can manage the task for the lowest cost dose that not just cause quality collapse as everyone trys to spend as little efford in solving the task as possible. As you said dumber and fast will win in any competition when it comes to resources.

[@Miresgaldir]

At work I've been trying to collect as much knowledge and data as possible into Excel spreadsheets... Just seems like a decent way to prepare? Feel pretty powerless otherwise

[@equious8413]

I don't think it's possible to effectively regulate away the functionality of a model. Lets say there are restrictions placed on what information can be contained in the training corpus. Anyone can retrain or fine tune it after market, and that's to say nothing of the models inherent ability to draw connections and conclusions. With a powerful enough model, if it knows science and has enough time, you could imagine it rederiving anything that could have been censored from training. This isn't a problem that can be fixed with laws. I genuinely feel it's a situation where everyone needs access always to maintain a balance of power. In any other scenario, someone somewhere is going to be an exception to your rules.

[@marcinhou]

i don't see the difference from not knowing what the internal neural networks are 'thinking' to give an ouput and not having the 'raw' chain of thoughts, from my understanding what matter is the quality of the output

[@brianWreaves]

This is why I've been saying nearly _all_ browser based products, services, and tools will not exist by 2027. We will have little need for browsers or even GUI products. We'll all have our own personal AI that can do whatever we have to purchase from currently existing product. orvette, it can tell you We won't need a browser, or whatever comes after them, for much more than maybe entertainment, gaming, communication like video/email/chat if you choose, human to human interaction as we are social creatures, maybe education, enterprise/government solutions, and little else.

[@wexlervision]

Your conclusion reminds me of a game show "Name That Tune", I can name that tune in 5 notes, or in your use case, I can solve that issue in 5 tokens...lol... oh, and I agree with others - the stock footage needs to go

[@remsee1608]

Could you name the startups you have talked to? And “Zero Trust” proofs from my experience are called “Zero Knowledge” proofs

[@thatthotho]

Loving this Dave, cheers. Platform stuff made me think about how (human) professional service providers can potentially market to agents, at least until they're entirely redundant. For example, services for gathering real world data (like how strategy consultant might do expert interviews)

[@kit888]

06:55 I would be more worried about the training data than the architecture. Which is harder to audit.

[@Leo_ai75]

I absolutely agree with this video David. What people don’t understand is that autonomous agents are still confined within the controls of the Python code. The architecture / coding around the models control the ai, until ai can create its own operational code outside of a programme then we won’t have truly autonomous agents.

[@rokljhui864]

So, a wonderful self-organising competition of compute resources that naturally tends towards a single monopoly that prioritises its' single goal: The annihilation of humanity.

[@jimlynch9390]

Please stop these insane podcasts with slide shows. They are beneath you! Take a hike!

[@aleblurfilmes]

The stock footage is not illustrative of what are you saying, Dave, so it’s not adding but instead is taking attention off of what you are saying. Is much better seeing you and a presentation with the bullet points beside for following your explanation.

[@OZtwo]

What I'm hoping is that we will have local Agents that will rely on larger LLMs like GPT if they do not know the answer. Even more, I am supersized that OpanAI hasn't made such LLMs yet. My second guess is that this is what Microsoft will do to bring LLMs to the PC. But at the end this video was focused more on why we will have a labor issue in the near future as most jobs will no longer be needed as Agents will be able to do this faster. 1000x if not more. Off the wall math: 1 agent can replace 50 jobs x billion of agents = over 50 billion jobs replaced.

[@nil7118]

Would be nice to see you make a video shifting to a different topic such as AI agents and the creation of future video games/entertainment

[@TheBann90]

I think we agree on everything regarding AI. Just bar perhaps a definition or two. Cheers. I still wonder if we will reach singularity before or after we get neuromorphic chips taking over or quantum chips thought. Either way, self improving AI would take us beyond those steps anyway. Perhaps straight to some fluid based or lightwave based quantum chip architecture. Or a combination of both. Can you just imagine the possibilities and compute output of that?

[@aliasgur3342]

"Anyway, the blast radius will be relatively small" 😅

[@The_Long_Bones_of_Tom_Hoody]

I like seeing David's sweet face and star treck top in these videos

[@abajaj1510]

And then comes ASI and puts all the plans of mice and men to naught.

[@minimal3734]

How do we solve a complex problem? The problem is divided into several smaller problems that can be solved independently of each other. Each problem is assigned to a team of specialists. If they are not able to solve the problem, it can be further divided into smaller, easier-to-solve problems, or the task can be passed on to the next level with more capable specialists. This type of organisation is ideal for an architecture based on AI agents and can solve the most complex tasks without requiring the highest level of intelligence at each level.

[@helloworldcsofficial]

Why do I get the feeling that you always have something bad to say about OpenAI ? Maybe an updated video on the main reasons why you believe we should be more wary of OpenAI.

[@chrissscottt]

David my advice is, don't stick your head out too far.

[@nicoleibundgut534]

How will this play out for google and open ai's contract lol? I mean its free for them till they get agi right?

[@asdfcese]

Another downvote on the stock footage. We want to see more Dave!