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Bonanza Incident Oshkosh 2019

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@rebelyell22
@rebelyell22 4 жыл бұрын
Did this video get linked somewhere? Tons of views lately
@plv287
@plv287 4 жыл бұрын
KZbin recommendation for me.
@sightline4004
@sightline4004 4 жыл бұрын
Same, it's a KZbin recommendation (I look up a lot of aviation videos fyi)
@wgraham2410
@wgraham2410 3 жыл бұрын
What was the end result? No damage? Besides his pride?
@theVRpilot
@theVRpilot 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin does what KZbin wants. It just randomly showed up.
@robertgates5164
@robertgates5164 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone watching MSFS2020 vids eventually gets linked to RL crash vids and now your vid. Took about a week for me to get this YT rec.
@douglas7260
@douglas7260 3 жыл бұрын
There was a follow up video to this. This guy hit wake turbulence from the previous aircraft. He actually did a great job of saving the plane.
@DanFrederiksen
@DanFrederiksen Жыл бұрын
wake maybe, good flying no. very slow to react to the drop. this was a biden run.
@thecomedypilot5894
@thecomedypilot5894 Жыл бұрын
@@DanFrederiksen lol!
@2011blueman
@2011blueman Жыл бұрын
@@DanFrederiksen Bringing up your personal politics in a conversation where it's completely irrelevant is the sign of a feeble mind.
@DanFrederiksen
@DanFrederiksen Жыл бұрын
@@2011blueman I'm actually far left, just not woke and truth is my God. Biden is a senile pedophile and part of his decay is falling a fair bit. His motor skill problems isn't even political. And I'm not exactly a feeble mind.
@scottycatman
@scottycatman Жыл бұрын
@@DanFrederiksen How do you know he was slow to react? Not seeing the wing come up doesn't mean anything -- *he's in a wake*. He could have had full aileron input and if the wake was strong enough, hardly anything would happen.
@brianhart3487
@brianhart3487 3 жыл бұрын
That final turn to go south at Wittman is tough for many pilots. When I was 14 years old, my first ever Oshkosh, I witnessed a fatal plane crash. Smaller Cessna, overbanked and Oh No. I am now 56 and will never forget that moment.
@bruce2357
@bruce2357 2 жыл бұрын
The issue was wake turbulence related, notice the plane that landed before him.
@dirtcurt1
@dirtcurt1 4 жыл бұрын
The plane looked like it fell in a hole. Definitely wake turbulence just by the way the plane was oddly moving. He was in it even after recovery then it smoothed in ground effect. That was so close to being really bad, great reactions and great save!
@scottskinner577
@scottskinner577 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he got in behind a hummingbird
@ericlozen9631
@ericlozen9631 3 жыл бұрын
Jack Roush was his flight instructor.
@scottskinner577
@scottskinner577 3 жыл бұрын
Lol Shots Fired
@lukecronje619
@lukecronje619 3 жыл бұрын
Why?
@scottskinner577
@scottskinner577 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukecronje619 he crashed a small private jet. Its on KZbin
@packingten
@packingten 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think someone losing they're life is funny Eric?.😑
@eklipsche5416
@eklipsche5416 3 жыл бұрын
@@packingten Nobody died...
@mtlassen1992
@mtlassen1992 4 жыл бұрын
When you've done carrier landings on Playstation....
@Matthew-hi5ud
@Matthew-hi5ud 4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@GaryCameron
@GaryCameron 5 жыл бұрын
The tri-motor flies very slow, it's probably easy to get a lot closer behind it that you intended with that crazy tight pattern. I was there that week, and I am so glad everybody made it in and out safely.
@justsnappy
@justsnappy 3 жыл бұрын
I swear that left main was swinging in the wind after initial contact.
@rebelyell22
@rebelyell22 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, I bet it broke the downlock mechanism
@av8or971
@av8or971 3 жыл бұрын
yup and it was folding up under the weight on landing.
@DonB356
@DonB356 3 жыл бұрын
"Brown trousers would have been a better choice." - Richard Hammond
@lucaas
@lucaas Жыл бұрын
Great catch! Would you be okay with me featuring this in my series Weekly Dose of Aviation? Of course you will be credited both in the video and in the description.
@rebelyell22
@rebelyell22 Жыл бұрын
sure thing!
@briangenre2130
@briangenre2130 5 жыл бұрын
Final.... We don't need no stinkin final.
@nigelsnell9770
@nigelsnell9770 4 жыл бұрын
Looks to me like a combination of not being straight and level, and too close behind the tri motor. Big and draggy often have a strong but short lived wake behind them, the Antonov biplane is a classic for having in incredibly vicious wake immediately behind it. If behind something like that, keep just above it, and aim to touch down after the point where it touches down on the runway. If you get below it, you'll be flying into the wake. If in doubt, go around, a good landing starts on the join, not on final.
@MidwestMike100
@MidwestMike100 4 жыл бұрын
At the busy times you can't do that at Oshkosh (Whitman field). They sequence traffic by category, and they have multiple touchdown points on the runway designated by different colored circles. On entering the pattern the controllers will tell you which dot is your touchdown point. This helps the controllers be assured they have the minimum distance between aircraft categories, and best utilizing time and runway. For example, minimum distance between category I is 3,000 ft.
@SgfGustafsson
@SgfGustafsson Жыл бұрын
He was told to land where he did, because the Tri-motor was told to land further down. They were both on the runway at the same time. Also the controllers tell you when to turn base there.
@timdykes403
@timdykes403 3 жыл бұрын
Way to stay with it man. Never stop flying.
@maartineriksson
@maartineriksson 3 жыл бұрын
Even though we agree on the error on final bank, can we all just appreciate that sweet recovery by the pilot?
@monsenrm
@monsenrm 4 жыл бұрын
It might have been a combination of a little wake turbulence and a stall on base to final. He was probably to slow in that turn, hit some turbulence, stalled, dropped hitting the ground but picking up airspeed and finally a normal landing but of course collapse of the left main gear.
@texn8
@texn8 3 жыл бұрын
This guy got way behind his aircraft (situational awareness) when he made a too short of a base leg. This is a killer of low wing Navy pilots doing carrier landings. In a left turn in a low wing aircraft you lose sight of the runway in the turn. (the view blocked by the wing) All of a sudden, your in deep do-do when you increase the turn bank..... And the left wing quits flying.....exactly like this. This guy was lucky. I bet he sees this every time he closes his eyes at bedtime!
@jim2lane
@jim2lane 3 жыл бұрын
@@texn8 - yup, that was a classic low wing stall
@wackaircaftmechanic2312
@wackaircaftmechanic2312 3 жыл бұрын
No it wasn't. It was wingtip vortices.
@wackaircaftmechanic2312
@wackaircaftmechanic2312 3 жыл бұрын
@@jim2lane GOD IT WAS NOT A STALL! If it was a stall, He would be dead, and the plane would be wrecked, Fun fact, It's at out airport.
@jim2lane
@jim2lane 3 жыл бұрын
@@wackaircaftmechanic2312 - take a look at the 0:32 - 0:34 time frame. You can actually see when the left side wing stalls because his sink rate drastically accelerates at that point until impact. Take a look at the definition of a low wing stall. Both wings do not stall, only the one lower in high angle turn - just like the one depicted here 😉
@gmcjetpilot
@gmcjetpilot 5 жыл бұрын
I don't see any problem with it. looks like a normal approach and Landing just like I always do. Excuse me I have to clean my shorts now.
@MikeBrown-ex9nh
@MikeBrown-ex9nh 3 жыл бұрын
Just my opinion, but final shouldn't start at the end of the runway.
@shanetroyer5359
@shanetroyer5359 3 жыл бұрын
Mike Brown it has to at Oshkosh
@stevenhuckaby2902
@stevenhuckaby2902 3 жыл бұрын
He was acting like a hotshot to me
@13634landing
@13634landing 5 жыл бұрын
Wake turbulence!!!! That will get you every time. Not sure but due to the amount of traffic and the rush to get everyone on the ground, they didn’t allow sufficient time for the wake turbulence to adequately dissipate before landing a lighter aircraft behind a bigger, heavier one. The pilot did an outstanding job recovering the aircraft. Many times, being that low and slow, a pop like that will flip the aircraft and no recovery is possible. Great recovery! But always be aware of it, it can kill you in a heartbeat.
@JEK134
@JEK134 5 жыл бұрын
I think too much of a bank and not enough airspeed caused that. (Lower wing stalled). Both the tri-motor and the bonanza had almost the same approach height over the runway the entire time. If any wake turbulence was there it was most likely gone by that point. Plus, you don’t have to be type rated for the Ford. It’s under 12/5. I doubt there is that much wake anyways. But anywho, at least the pilot lived.
@guardiandog2445
@guardiandog2445 2 жыл бұрын
If behind U need to wait. Period
@3MinutesofAviation
@3MinutesofAviation Жыл бұрын
Awesome capture! May I feature this landing mishap in one of my next episodes? Of course with a link back to your original video. Cheers!
@rebelyell22
@rebelyell22 Жыл бұрын
sure
@Wingwoes
@Wingwoes 23 күн бұрын
Great Video! May I feature a part of this video in my daily dose of aviation? Of course I'll mark the link back to your video with full credit. Thanks!
@noyufly
@noyufly 5 жыл бұрын
The left main folded further down the runway. Shutdown the runway.
@KB4QAA
@KB4QAA 4 жыл бұрын
You can see it 'swinging" during the recovery.
@DanFrederiksen
@DanFrederiksen Жыл бұрын
ok I was wondering about that. Surprised it held on the initial landing after a complete collapse. Do you know the repair bill or if it was a write off?
@savethedeveloper
@savethedeveloper 3 жыл бұрын
stuff like this happens because at Osh the controllers often call your turn. You aren't used to it and would not do it at another field. You have to say unable and head back to Fisk
@zedfourme5085
@zedfourme5085 3 жыл бұрын
Literally had 0 to do with him hitting wake turbulence
@danielhawley6817
@danielhawley6817 4 жыл бұрын
Classic accelerated stall..going too slow for the bank when he cranked the turn around short. Good recovery when he immediately applied power. Jack Roush did exactly the same maneuver and crashed in a Premier Jet a few years back. Tight turns just above stall speed will do it.
@MrJpbmusic2005
@MrJpbmusic2005 3 жыл бұрын
@@AG-uh9bf I agree plus the fact that it was such a tight approach to final didn't help either .. hope he/she was ok
@Aerospace_Gaming
@Aerospace_Gaming 3 жыл бұрын
The pilot stated he was well above the aircraft's stall speed and that it was in fact wake turbulence
@deanmartin2684
@deanmartin2684 2 жыл бұрын
Classic base to final stall but the pilot was fast enough to recognize and recover and lucky to be alive.
@kodyfiresheets4247
@kodyfiresheets4247 5 жыл бұрын
I will say he pretty well buttered hat second one
@joopbekkema6490
@joopbekkema6490 3 жыл бұрын
Overbanked on final ( never a good idea) and probably experienced a stall/nosedrop, he must have given full throttle (good reaction!) causing him to land far. Wake turbulence usually is not resulting in such a nose drop.
@airdisasternews
@airdisasternews 11 ай бұрын
Hello, dear friend. The moments you share are wonderful. May I introduce these moments to everyone? Of course, there will be a link back to your original video. Thank you.
@MrAeronca100
@MrAeronca100 4 жыл бұрын
A Standard UN STABILIZED approach, these quartering finals have a tendency to end up bad
@sam1174
@sam1174 3 жыл бұрын
When the controllers at Oshkosh direct you to turn base a thousand feet before you even reach the end of the runway, there's not really much time to establish a stabilized approach. Oshkosh isn't ATL.
@chriscampbell1929
@chriscampbell1929 3 жыл бұрын
I saw an incident when I was in Oshkosh around 1999 or so. V tail on short final behind a Connie...he got caught up in the wake and almost nosed it in but he pulled out. Scary stuff
@davidboyd8822
@davidboyd8822 5 жыл бұрын
The landing was smooth.....The touch and go just prior was a little rough though.
@vivek6187
@vivek6187 3 жыл бұрын
Base to final stall?
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 5 жыл бұрын
There are always accidents. I read about the Cessna 172 that crashed on a ditch nearby. Also about the baron that crashed on his way back. Another one its at katrynReport.com. Plus 2 at osh airport. Shit happens. 5 accidents out of 10,000 aint bad..
@alexandersheppard1997
@alexandersheppard1997 3 жыл бұрын
People always freak out that their are so many hard landings and other things at oshkosh, but you have to remember that literally thousands of airplanes take off and land there safely during the week. Out of 10,000 landings, there are bound to be a few hard ones, especially when you introduce all the stress.
@robertplummer5015
@robertplummer5015 5 жыл бұрын
I am the red and white Cherokee N9324J... we were in line to park and I noticed the Bonanza leaning to one side. I did not know what happend until we saw this video....
@rebelyell22
@rebelyell22 5 жыл бұрын
I was under the wing of the yellow 195 parked right behind you from Thursday-Saturday for most of the day
@robertplummer5015
@robertplummer5015 5 жыл бұрын
@@rebelyell22 hello rebel... Bob here. I am 55 nm sw of stl. We had 2 bad thunderstorms go through here...had a lake in my front yard... I heard we had heavy winds in Sullivan Missouri where plane is parked...have to check it out tomarow am... I think I remembered you...you guys did the camping thing... next time we plan to camp. Last time we camped there Chicago was playing on stage.... take it easy rebel...
@rebelyell22
@rebelyell22 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertplummer5015 what is your email? I have a picture of your Cherokee taxiing at Oshkosh
@robertplummer5015
@robertplummer5015 4 жыл бұрын
@@rebelyell22 can I do that? Is it safe to put email on here?
@rebelyell22
@rebelyell22 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertplummer5015 yea, it doesn't matter
@indyjons321
@indyjons321 5 жыл бұрын
So this was the the big crash of 2019? Glad to see it end so well.
@wernerhoerning5661
@wernerhoerning5661 3 жыл бұрын
O TREM DO BONANZA É MUITO FORTE.
@tedgey4286
@tedgey4286 3 жыл бұрын
The recovery tells me this is a pretty good flyer doing something not so smart (landing with 0ft final) and possibly hitting some wake of the twin engine who was probably still on the runway during the initial impact. Really good recovery to stabilize the aircraft before landing like a normal person
@erichhartmann1
@erichhartmann1 3 жыл бұрын
A few things. The twin engine aircraft was actually 3 engined. The spacing in this pattern is also very tight and the clearance was given by ATC. There’s lots of pressure at KOSH to not want to go around in the complex pattern. As for the short final you pointed out, that is standard when the winds are in favour of runway 18.
@timmholzhauer3342
@timmholzhauer3342 3 жыл бұрын
There is a comment from the pilot apparently. He said he was too close to the Ford. The approach is so short/close in order to keep the other runway free. He was lucky, must the left main gear broke but was stuck in a way to keep the wing off the ground. Not even a gear door scratch! There was a fatal accident in germany where a Robin DR400 is taking off after a Anotonv AN-2 biplane. He had no chance and rolled into the ground. That IS an eye opener!! Here rhe link: www.reddit.com/r/flying/comments/cwceob/i_almost_had_a_serious_accident_at_oshkosh_2019_a/ VERY INTERESTING!
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 3 жыл бұрын
When you stall close to the ground, you want to pull up. Every fiber in your being is telling you "pull up or die". But this is a deadly lie. You need to know the truth is, "pull up and die". You have to get the nose down. You have to get the wings flying again, and quick. Stall recovery like a *BOSS* That was not luck, it was pure skill.
@whirlybird3189
@whirlybird3189 5 жыл бұрын
Any landing you can walk away from is a good one. Jordanoff....
@moeshipley4170
@moeshipley4170 3 жыл бұрын
Any landing that allows you to reuse the airplane!
@Skank_and_Gutterboy
@Skank_and_Gutterboy 10 ай бұрын
Holy crap on a stick, I thought that guy was going to become a fireball.
@scottskinner577
@scottskinner577 3 жыл бұрын
I felt like I was watching a bunch of Mustangs leaving a hot rod show fishtailing into trees on the way out. Ouch
@RonaldBNatalie
@RonaldBNatalie 5 жыл бұрын
I had dinner with the pilot and his passenger later that evening. He claimed it was wake turbulence. I agree I don't see much sign of it. The attitude is pretty constant with a high rate of descent. Looks more like an accelerated stall.
@gmcjetpilot
@gmcjetpilot 5 жыл бұрын
Was there damage to the aircraft?
@goingtoscotland
@goingtoscotland 5 жыл бұрын
@@gmcjetpilot you can see the left main is not locked between the time he bounced and the time he touched down the second time. At the end you can see the left main starting to collapse.
@RonaldBNatalie
@RonaldBNatalie 5 жыл бұрын
@@gmcjetpilot You betcha. Gear heavily damaged
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 5 жыл бұрын
@@RonaldBNatalie -- that wing might be bent too..
@AviationVault
@AviationVault Жыл бұрын
Stunning capture. Can I feature this video in one of my next episodes? Of course, with a link to his original video. PEACE!
@rebelyell22
@rebelyell22 Жыл бұрын
Sure
@bartofilms
@bartofilms 5 жыл бұрын
Would like to know what happened from pilot's perspective. Did he hit wake t. from the Tri Motor in front? Was he aware of his sink rate? Did the left wing stall? Is bank angle a problem with V tails? There's less airfoil and less control surface back there.
@tomthegeek
@tomthegeek 5 жыл бұрын
www.reddit.com/r/flying/comments/cwceob/i_almost_had_a_serious_accident_at_oshkosh_2019_a/
@bbt95762
@bbt95762 5 жыл бұрын
great recovery by the pilot - assume all are ok on board?
@johnwkindig1613
@johnwkindig1613 5 жыл бұрын
everyone was fine, i was in another bonanza just off screen, just thought the gear collapsed...didn't see this
@larrydickenson8922
@larrydickenson8922 Жыл бұрын
Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. Any landing you can fly away from again is a great one.
@Paulo_Paulistano
@Paulo_Paulistano 5 жыл бұрын
It is Not an acident! It's an incident!
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 5 жыл бұрын
Did you inspect it??
@ervinthompson6598
@ervinthompson6598 4 жыл бұрын
It was an accident after the gear collapsed during the rollout. Bonanzas are tough - to a point.
@rossettim85
@rossettim85 5 жыл бұрын
I have a hard time believing the trimotor wake turbulence caused that. Looks like a classic accelerated stall to me
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 5 жыл бұрын
Dittto!!
@bartonrobinett3790
@bartonrobinett3790 4 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what it is. He pulled it around to align with the runway using back stick and stalled the wing. No way a Ford Trimotor makes enough wake turbulence to upset a Bonanza. Yes I have one and about 2000 hours in it.
@gottafly30
@gottafly30 4 жыл бұрын
look closely during the bounce at left main... I think he broke it...
@fuscoefi4081
@fuscoefi4081 4 жыл бұрын
Why that base turn is so close to the runaway ? I've seen many crashes in Oshkosh due to wing tip stalls in these ver short base turns...
@scottycatman
@scottycatman 4 жыл бұрын
Because there are other runways in use to the north. In normal operation, it is not such a tight base.
@KB4QAA
@KB4QAA 4 жыл бұрын
Fu: How do you know the wingtip stalled? Have you examined the Bonanza for wingtip washout? Nearly all planes are designed to begin stalling at the root and progress outwards.
@jmy6050
@jmy6050 2 ай бұрын
😢Wake turbulence or not he was too close behind the other aircraft and didn't have an adequate final approach path to the runway. Cowboy
@Wildstar40
@Wildstar40 3 жыл бұрын
Was that a microburst ? Or is that what the pilot would like to have us believe ?
@JustaPilot1
@JustaPilot1 3 жыл бұрын
He came in too hot. The microburst story is him covering his ass.
@Tigers9596
@Tigers9596 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like he's banking too hard, which means his load factor is higher and his stall speed is much much higher.
@None-zc5vg
@None-zc5vg 3 жыл бұрын
I used a footpath near the end of the main runway of a major British airport 60 years ago and the sound of the overhead wake-turbulence would continue long after the airliners that had passed low overhead were down on the runway (this was long before the jets arrived and the biggest planes around were the new 4-engined turboprops). Maybe the two aircraft seen landing in this clip were far too close together in the landing-sequence and the Trimotor's 'wash caught out the Bonanza's pilot. Maybe the ground-control people (if there were any) should have spaced the planes out on the approach using that novelty, the radio.
@shaphanbates9367
@shaphanbates9367 5 жыл бұрын
Got to hate that.😬 He was right in front of where we were camping when the plane came to a complete stop.
@jwb2814
@jwb2814 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe one of you twin drivers can comment. Was the rapid drop due to the power setting being back and one wing stalling because of the AOA.
@robertthrailkill1368
@robertthrailkill1368 3 жыл бұрын
This really was the classic base leg -to-final turn that has caused many crashes and fatalities. Basically the pilot has miss judged final leg and over shot the turn. He then turns more aggressively to rescue the landing but is too slow for the high bank angle and slow approach speeds. This causes a sudden lost of lift and sudden high descent rate. In a twin this is particularly deadly. This guy was very lucky!
@VictoryAviation
@VictoryAviation Жыл бұрын
Watching his bank and descent rate, I completely disagree. I know exactly what you’re talking about, but this isn’t it. His angle of attack isn’t even that great and he just sinks hard out of nowhere. It’s either wake turbulence from the trimotor or wind shear.
@danpolk
@danpolk Жыл бұрын
Wake turbulence. His turn is tight but AOA looks fine then the plane just falls out from under him.
@acespace7255
@acespace7255 Ай бұрын
Nice recovery, Doctor......or Counselor
@ronstowell8646
@ronstowell8646 3 жыл бұрын
Just a glancing blow coming in contact with a planet hurtling through space at 8 miles a second.
@ryancourt8065
@ryancourt8065 3 жыл бұрын
When Chuck Norris flies, he decides when the laws of aerodynamics apply.
@barryb83110
@barryb83110 4 жыл бұрын
He recovered well.
@Inpreesme
@Inpreesme 3 жыл бұрын
Losing control of your cocktail while attempting a landing is never a good idea
@TakeDeadAim
@TakeDeadAim 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the V tail's poor low speed, high aspect handling and propensity to slide into a "hole" if banked sharply. Good recovery though. For those who've never flown into Oshkosh, the instructions are to turn final parallel with the piano keys. There are aircraft landing on the perpendicular 27/9 just a few hundred yards north of the 18's thresholds. If you're at the VOR you're about right but he cooked it.
@MidknightS0N
@MidknightS0N 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean turn final when parallel to the piano keys? Does that mean no base? Just a 180 turn into final from downwind?
@kombolasha
@kombolasha 3 жыл бұрын
MidknightS0N i’m guessing he meant base abeam the threshold markings and your final’s over the runway, unless you come in hot like captain ‘nanza here.
@bonanzaguy1
@bonanzaguy1 27 күн бұрын
Shows how strong Bonanzas are.
@sierraromeo
@sierraromeo 5 жыл бұрын
reference the ads-b data to see what his approach was, pretty windy Saturday, also + tri-motor wake
@dixienormous3262
@dixienormous3262 5 жыл бұрын
Needs more cowbell.
@billfenner7084
@billfenner7084 3 жыл бұрын
I know that the controller tells the plot that you have to land on a colored circle, but not literally.
@Lawiah0
@Lawiah0 5 жыл бұрын
I believe they term that an "Incident".
@H7__
@H7__ 5 жыл бұрын
“Accident” means an occurrence associated with the operation of an aircraft which, in the case of a manned aircraft, takes place between the time any person boards the aircraft with the intention of flight and such time as all such persons have disembarked, or in the case of an unmanned aircraft, takes place between the time the aircraft is ready to move with the purpose of flight until such time it comes to rest at the end of the flight and the primary propulsion system is shut down, in which: a person is fatally or seriously injured as a result of: being in the aircraft direct contact with any part of the aircraft, including parts which have become detached from the aircraft direct exposure to jet blast, except when the injuries are from natural causes, self-inflicted or inflicted by other persons, or when the injuries are to stowaways hiding outside the areas normally available to the passengers and crew the aircraft sustains damage or structural failure which adversely affects the structural strength, performance or flight characteristics of the aircraft, and would normally require major repair or replacement of the affected component, except for engine failure or damage, when the damage is limited to a single engine, (including its cowlings or accessories), to propellers, wing tips, antennas, probes, vanes, tires, brakes, wheels, fairings, panels, landing gear doors, windscreens, the aircraft skin (such as small dents or puncture holes) or minor damages to main rotor blades, tail rotor blades, landing gear, and those resulting from hail or bird strike, (including holes in the radome) the aircraft is missing or is completely inaccessible.
@bruce2357
@bruce2357 2 жыл бұрын
The bonanza should have been told to land beyond the bigger plane. Whoever made that decision made a bad one and the pilot should have known not to be that close in tow of a bigger plane.
@tshunse
@tshunse 5 жыл бұрын
Caution...wake turbulence.
@ervinthompson6598
@ervinthompson6598 4 жыл бұрын
Just flat ran out of ruddervator- if (though unlikely) the gear had been up and not taken the shock .....
@ricardoroberto100
@ricardoroberto100 4 жыл бұрын
Inside wing is slowest. The tip stalls first then the rest of the wing. Fly minimum speed at the the inside wing tip not the whole plane.
@KB4QAA
@KB4QAA 4 жыл бұрын
Right.....pay attention to those wingtip airspeed indicators... Ahem.
@ricardoroberto100
@ricardoroberto100 4 жыл бұрын
@@KB4QAA dont be sarcastic. A good pilot knows the margins. But many do go by the ai then turn just above the stall which is fatal.
@ctrcflyin2011
@ctrcflyin2011 4 жыл бұрын
Controller: Land at or before the orange dot. Pilot: Hank hold my beer I got this..............I am sorry that was not funny. In all reality that pilot did one hell of a job to recover from that, and proved the Bonanza is tough bird. I have to wonder how well a cirrus would have faired in that exact same situation.
@nixaviation
@nixaviation 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man... I didn't realize they had an accidents this year!
@rebelyell22
@rebelyell22 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, 2 of them that I know of. Have you solo'd yet?
@nixaviation
@nixaviation 5 жыл бұрын
@@rebelyell22 I'm at the hour requirement. Haven't taken the written yet.
@donny526
@donny526 2 жыл бұрын
that howard 500 is holding short burning 40gph at idle
@GeorgiaNFA
@GeorgiaNFA 4 жыл бұрын
Ouch. He recovered like a champ though.
@bryansimmons4550
@bryansimmons4550 4 жыл бұрын
No he recovered like a very lucky CHUMP. Correct response was immediate go around. Better yet ........... leave and don't come back after that display of terrible judgement.
@MidwestMike100
@MidwestMike100 4 жыл бұрын
@@bryansimmons4550 You are correct sir. Go-around would have been the best choice.
@MidwestMike100
@MidwestMike100 4 жыл бұрын
@@bryansimmons4550 While the go-around would have been the correct choice, a "problem" is this is at Oshkosh (Whitman Field). During the traffic peaks the controllers have a tight plan, with a lot of traffic. A go-around while sometimes necessary, screws up things up big time. If a controller "gets the ass" about he, he will send you back out to one of the VFR intercept/hold points for re-sequencing. Depending on his mood, he just might let you fly around out there for a while before he instructs you to proceed to the next VFR point.
@bryansimmons4550
@bryansimmons4550 4 жыл бұрын
@@MidwestMike100 The PILOT is in charge of the safe operation of his aircraft. It doesn't matter what the controller might want. A pilot can deviate from any ATC instruction in an emergency, and a potential crash landing is an emergency. A fatal crash does more than "screw things up." If a controller is angered by a pilot's wise decision to go around, it is time for that controller to become a WalMart greeter. Learn your FAR's. The controllers at Oshkosh are the cream of the crop, who bid on a chance to work aviation's version of the Super Bowl.
@MidwestMike100
@MidwestMike100 4 жыл бұрын
@@bryansimmons4550 Your firsts sentence says it all. That landing was not hardly safe. And he did damage the left main and wing. (The gear did collapse later down the runway.) With over 50 years in aviation I know the FARs,...and the AIM, and the FAAH 7110.65. We were not debating the controllers attitudes and actions. We were debating a pilot trying to salvage a bad approach. I well know most of the controllers at Oshkosh come out of Chicago towers and approach, as well as surrounding airports (JOT, PIA, RCK, and more). The pilot pulled it off...this time. There are old pilots, and there are bold pilots, but there are no old bold pilots.
@stevenhuckaby2902
@stevenhuckaby2902 4 жыл бұрын
He is lucky he was flying an aircraft with enough power to gather it all up and make a decent landing
@robertlafnear4865
@robertlafnear4865 4 жыл бұрын
DAMN Lucky he had a wee bit of UP as he hit the runway.
@wll1500
@wll1500 5 жыл бұрын
I watched one of the STOL planes at the ultralight field fail to pull out of a bank. His wing dug into the ground and he came down hard on the tires, bounced, and then did a go-around. That was sketchy..
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 5 жыл бұрын
Wing hit the ground and he went around?? Any videos of that one.
@wll1500
@wll1500 5 жыл бұрын
@@feetgoaroundfullflapsC dunno but yes. Dirt flew up from it.
@jwb2814
@jwb2814 4 жыл бұрын
😱 can’t believe he didn’t knock the wheels off it first touch
@johnbilliot1484
@johnbilliot1484 4 жыл бұрын
If you look closely, it appears that the left landing gear was knocked loose
@MrEbug68
@MrEbug68 5 жыл бұрын
Did his left main end up collapsing?
@rebelyell22
@rebelyell22 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. They picked it up with a big forklift
@glengerdes2447
@glengerdes2447 5 жыл бұрын
Couple of 195's . Getting ready to take off. Love those things.
@rebelyell22
@rebelyell22 5 жыл бұрын
I was in the 195 group all weekend. Those guys are basically my family
@chrisshieff7667
@chrisshieff7667 3 жыл бұрын
Was that wake turbulence? Did well to catch that....
@doranjaffas7351
@doranjaffas7351 3 жыл бұрын
Great save!
@ImpendingJoker
@ImpendingJoker 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of people saying this is wake turbulence but it looks more like the Bonanza was cross controlled and trying to slip in to slow down and drop altitude fast. That combined with the fact that it sucks in the yaw moment at slower speeds, and that he had a full passenger load, and it looks like a clear case of "Shoulda Gone Around" because he was too heavy too high and too fast.
@theaviationastronomychannel
@theaviationastronomychannel Жыл бұрын
That’s a hard “doctor killer landing”
@eyez_wallow_come8759
@eyez_wallow_come8759 3 жыл бұрын
Well it’s always good to know your stall speeds but it’s also important to apply them
@johnnyc.763
@johnnyc.763 5 жыл бұрын
He recovered, cause he was in a Bonanza. ;-)
@dirtcurt1
@dirtcurt1 4 жыл бұрын
Old one too, much lighter and how that gear stayed down as long as it did blows my mind.
@DanFrederiksen
@DanFrederiksen Жыл бұрын
what is it they call the plane again? :) doctor something...
@christianronnebeck5738
@christianronnebeck5738 3 жыл бұрын
Terrain... Terrain... Terrain...
@sierraromeo
@sierraromeo 5 жыл бұрын
Eaa needs to abandon that abbreviated low approach turn to final, too dangerous
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC
@feetgoaroundfullflapsC 5 жыл бұрын
its not for bad pilots.
@dhy5342
@dhy5342 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like he got on the ground alright but when you hit and bounce that hard the prudent thing to do is to go around and make sure nothing broke.
@alexandersheppard1997
@alexandersheppard1997 3 жыл бұрын
That may work for a small bounce, but if you hit THAT hard, I'd try to set it down with the runway remaining. If it did cause some sort of structural damage though, the last thing you would want to do is take it back in the air with you. I'd rather fall from 20 feet than a thousand feet.
@TRUMPMAGAPatriotUSA1
@TRUMPMAGAPatriotUSA1 Жыл бұрын
Wake & Bake Turbulence…💪🏼😎
@375GTB
@375GTB 5 жыл бұрын
Beechcraft builds 'em GOOD! Amazing they rolled away from it! Bent metal? Gear! Blown Hydraulics! New underwear? Take Greyhound home? Southwest? J.C.
@rebelyell22
@rebelyell22 5 жыл бұрын
they rolled down the runway and the left main folded in and it stopped laying on the left wing
@percivalhowell7516
@percivalhowell7516 5 жыл бұрын
@@rebelyell22 Was the pilot a physician? lol
@dirtcurt1
@dirtcurt1 4 жыл бұрын
@@percivalhowell7516 They lived so no.
@robajohnson
@robajohnson 5 жыл бұрын
Nice save!
@tntkop
@tntkop 3 жыл бұрын
“I forgot this model doesn’t have auto-land.”
@Kevy-vn9db
@Kevy-vn9db 5 жыл бұрын
What accident?
@Joefred77
@Joefred77 3 жыл бұрын
Dam good save tho
@andrewtooindranauth9070
@andrewtooindranauth9070 4 жыл бұрын
Tri motor?
@stealhty1
@stealhty1 4 жыл бұрын
No worries,only the whole world of aviation saw you including the FAA and your insurance of course
@thecanadianavee8r660
@thecanadianavee8r660 26 күн бұрын
Built beech tough
@mikeprenis2187
@mikeprenis2187 4 жыл бұрын
Pucker factor 10+. Dayumm.
@av8or971
@av8or971 3 жыл бұрын
looks like they need to slow down the aircraft landings. i have seen so many accidents and incident videos from oshkosh, most of it is because of the lack of safety when handling the planes so quickly. oshkosh.. slow down, have better safety standards.
@alexandersheppard1997
@alexandersheppard1997 3 жыл бұрын
It's not so much the rules and procedures at oshkosh, it's pilots getting in over their head and losing focus on flying the airplane. If flown correctly, the fisk arrival into oshkosh is very safe, but nothing is idiot proof.
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