Book Review: Training Rifles of Third Reich Germany

[@donaldholman9070]

It is so refreshing to hear someone that is intelligent. I have learned a lot from your reviews.Thank you.

[@williamrotunno8259]

Great video Ian keep up the good work

[@nindger4270]

Great to see this book actually made it into production. I re-watched your original video on the training K98s a few weeks back and was wondering if it would ever see the light of day. I'm glad it turned out well.

[@stevenuccio3375]

Sorry if my voice sounds different, I have a cold. *sounds exactly the same*

[@soylentgreen7074]

Ian when you're older and not traveling as much do you think you'll ever publish a book on a topic? Maybe on all WWI French rifles variations like in your collection.

[@williestyle35]

He is currently working on just such a book project..

[@matthayward7889]

Niche for sure, but always enjoy Ian's book reviews. Hope Ian isn't finally wearing his voice out with all these videos ;)

[@mohmaana7730]

hi Ian, when you brings us your own book ?can't wait for that, it will be a huge success I'm sure

[@chinesesparrows]

I am a k98 that identifies as a .22

[@TrueSonOfWalhall]

Not Joe lol. My father has two bayonets for an 98K, one for battlefield and a second one for going out in the city and for parades

[@RandomGuy9]

Not Joe Did you just assume my caliber?

[@mysss29]

the best part about this joke is that instead of being like "lol stupid gays", it's still funny while actually getting what it's talking about

[@fightingbear8537]

You really come up with some hard to find books!

[@hrholden4262]

Hi mate excellent video, Just wondering if that book covers the mm410b 22sporter any information appreciated 👍

[@ED-od6hy]

Were the MAS-45 trainers actually built on German equipment, or does it just share similar design features with the KKW?

[@pikeywyatt]

more info,thanks Ian,keep well.wheres Floss's hat.

[@ZealothPL]

KZbin recomendations are absolutely hilarious for you Ian "Top 15 young adult books!" "Rant review, Anna and The French Kiss!" Also, maybe you should wash your sore throat with the potion Varusteleka guys gave you? I bet you it'll make all the bad things run away screaming ^^

[@nec4565]

I got to shoot a Mauser trainer air gun at a shooting gallery in Munich a few years ago for Oktoberfest

[@pterodactylhunter9275]

This is fairly off topic but here goes. Does anyone know of a good book on Czech firearms during the cold war? Specifically the vz 52, 52/57, and 58? Bonus if it has info on other Czech guns too.

[@bradsimpson7074]

The book you are probably looking for is Czech Firearms and Ammunition History and Present by Dolinek. You can email our book specialist [e-mail] for more information.

[@ScottRuggels]

I want one of those K98 clones in .22.... Out of my price range, though, these days.

[@Hidalguense]

What a good looking wall. Love it

[@bennythargrave]

I have heard that a similar phenomenon happened in the pacific theater and in Japan when occupying troops were tasked with destroyed wartime Japanese military equipment that when soldiers had to turn over their arms the occupation troops G.I.'s would take Katanas off of Japanese officers and bring them home. This was so common that eventually the majority of Katanas existed in the US instead of in Japan.

[@williestyle35]

That is a true post war phenomenon. Also swords were issued to NCO's and surrendering troops had to be disarmed anyway. So there was never going to be any stockpiles of Japanese weapons left intact in occupied Japan. Easy pickings for souvenir hunters.

[@lesterdiamond6190]

Cmon Ian, it's ok to be hungover once in awhile. We sighted in deer rifles today and we were ALL kinda green!

[@Devin_Stromgren]

Of course, a lot of rural folks were also excluded from the draft, as was the case with my grandfather. The Government decided he was more valuable here growing wheat and potatoes to feed the troops. His brother was a field medic though, and another guy from my home town, CPL Harvey Sigurd Olson, was one of the very first men on French soil on D-Day.

[@dongoudeau6084]

I have a Gustav Genschow & Co, Berlin ` Treptow, Geco Ser# 386, Deutjches Sportmodel. I cannot find anything about it.

[@TheMrarthas]

I actually wrote a good portion of that, back in "the good old days"

[@TheMrarthas]

quite a bit friend, Hitler and I drink it with Elvis sometimes when we chill on the beach in Brazil. We make that Bin Laden dickhead buy it though, lol.

[@ringowunderlich2241]

and Idi Amin waving the frond i guess

[@theloudamerican2193]

Colonel Elmo of the SS, 1st Sesame Street Div , cheers! perhaps there is another seat at that table for me? (Santa Claus )!

[@TheMrarthas]

Have a seat friend! I suggest staying away from Jack Frost though, he can be a dick.

[@TheMrarthas]

absolutely correct!

[@williamprince1114]

I wonder if there are/were any large or even small caches of such training rifles in Russia. Probably not but with the large amounts of k98 rifles they stockpiled and then sold as MilSurp 10 years ago I suppose it might be possible.

[@drmaudio]

The real question is where do you find time for all this reading?

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Continuing education is a critical part of my job. :)

[@drdrake63]

Forgotten Weapons and here we thought this information was all just floating around in your head

[@JohnyG29]

Why did just the US troops take these rifles at the end of the war, and not any of the occupying Russian, British, Canadian and French troops?

[@williestyle35]

Primarily because military weapons ( especially pistols ) were popular, and Russians ( among others ) would not be allowed to retain working weapons at home. Ian said it best in the video.

[@ChairmanMo]

SUPER COOL!

[@jughead8988]

I have a yugo 22 training rifle would this book give me info on that

[@ForgottenWeapons]

No.

[@jughead8988]

Forgotten Weapons any ideas where i mite find some info on it. Its been kind hit or miss on the internet

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Sorry, I don't.

[@jughead8988]

Forgotten Weapons thanks buddy keep up the good work.

[@burlatsdemontaigne6147]

I'm sure there were some 'Treaty of Versailles' reasons that the Germans were not allowed to maintain an arsenal of "full fat" combat rifles. They were pretty canny at getting around the restrictions placed on them post WW1. Glider clubs etc to train fighter pilots.

[@Obscurewatchcollector]

Always delighted to see gun Jesus 👍😂

[@z4rg3n]

Ian you look so dashing with your hair down

[@AndyAndy-bg7mv]

how can i get my mk5 wg webley . 455 into america to sell it ?

[@casinbound5894]

It's actually very well priced considering the sheer amount of content in the book. I have paid hundreds for worse.

[@riverstyxarmory9782]

"no one should own that many guns"....I should own 2 of those 😂

[@morsletum5348]

Taking Souvenirs aka plundering.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

Welcome to war. Don't start one, or at least don't lose.

[@morsletum5348]

Oh it's not that I really mind ,everyone did it but why call it souvenirs if everyone knows what you really mean?

[@Giloup92]

It was not plundering, since these guns were no longer in German hands and were supposed to be destroyed by the occupation forces.

[@alexmoore1506]

Mors Letum to the victor go the spoils.

[@Lowlandlord]

@@ForgottenWeapons Just seems hypocritical when y'all (although not apolitical you specifically, Americans) talk about how everyone should have guns as a God-given-right and then go and steal ones that aren't even good for combat. Little funny.

[@cougarhunter33]

I had a Genschow trainer that a friend of mine gave me. It was certainly not a museum piece and lived a life. It had a cracked stock that I glued back together and was missing all of the rear sight hardware, as well as the front adjustable. I was never able to find any parts to replace any of the missing sight pieces, so I ended up just cutting the barrel flat just before the sight. Luckily a small scope mounted up to it just fine. It had a 0.875 inch thick barrel, so very thick walled. That thing was a tack driver, I loved it. I used to play at the range and spend the day blowing out the center of B-27 targets, cutting them in half, or making smiley faces. Sadly, it was stolen about 10 years ago in the first gun theft that I experienced. The rest were taken in two more incidents a few years after that. I'm out of the gun hobby now with the exception of my carry piece, and that will be the case until I move and have the room for a vault.

[@exploatores]

the cold gives you a nice whisky and cigare voice.

[@jeremycook3761]

I have geco sportsmodell. That my papaw bought back. It is accurate Little rifle

[@eduardonavarro5910]

Someone please help I have a German 22 long rifle it has symbol of mountains with an S in middle of it...so those that make mine rare. Aslo how much is it worth?

[@evanburke2766]

Who has seen Lego videos on the remmomed videos

[@hanskc3302]

Suddenly bunch of girls with book reviews on recommended section, lol.

[@theseal666]

Whaaaaat?! The hair!! Can we get a proper head-bang?

[@fancyUltra]

freakin Gun Jesus

[@matt1535]

Gun Jesus got sick

[@matthewspencer5086]

Some people claim the NAZIs were anti-gun. They were anti most things, including God and the family unit, but they definitely wanted the master race to be proficient at arms. Most people who had to hand guns in when the NAZIs came to power, got them back as soon as the NAZIs felt secure. Because British troops were assigned to occupy mostly the Hamburg area, which had been comprehensively destroyed, there was almost nothing to be looted, of guns or anything else. George Orwell wrote some articles persuading the British public (still under rationing until 1952) that it wasn't actually unreasonable for the British government to divert food supplies to feed German civilians. I believe that American troops occupied a lot of smaller towns in South Germany that were more or less intact, where there were still items of interest to be had. German civilians in areas occupied by Soviet and French forces fared extremely badly, and losing a few target rifles would have seemed inconsequential compared to what actually happened. There was almost no effort to alleviate hardship in occupied areas. (The performance of the French Provisional Government was so bad that De Gaulle resigned in 1946 rather accept any further blame for it.)

[@D0pam1n]

Just a few things here. Nazi ideology absolutely idolized the family as the "germ cell of the people" and reinforced the traditional family model with men being protectors and breadwinners and women having as many children as possible. This was supported through government subsidies, tax breaks, banning abortions and regulating contraceptives more strictly. Furthermore, there was a cultural exaggeration through the usual propaganda and indoctrination as well as emphasizing mother's day and awarding medals for having many children. The government also played a big role in family planning by disallowing marriages with Jews and handicapped people. About god, well any totalitarian regime strives to be like a religion in many ways. "Political Religion" was a popular scientific term for a while and god is a welcome addition to an ideology that wants to replace every other philosophical framework. So if anything, the Nazis just incorporated god into their ideology and Hitler, a christian, clearly used christian philosophy and god in many of his speeches and Mein Kampf to stress how much of a moral person he was. Also, the two major organized churches were adapted into this ideology rather easily. Most of the clergy willingly followed and the pope himself struck a deal with Hitler.

[@matthewspencer5086]

Stefano Dogg The Americans easily had the resources to feed their part of occupied Germany (which wasn't quite so damaged and produced some food of its own) and as far as I know, they did so. Britain did not have the resources, but managed to do it anyway, partly by diverting shiploads of food from Argentina to Tilbury, directly to Hamburg. France and Russia never really tried. I don't know about Patton, but I do know that the Russians did, as a matter of policy, intern very large numbers of German soldiers, for more than a decade in many cases, and a large proportion of them did not return from the labour camps in Siberia and Moldova to which they were sent. American GOVERNMENT policy (Ie: Harry Truman's policy, not General Patton's) towards actual Nazis was pretty largely to give them influential jobs in the United States via "Operation Paperclip", in defence-related companies and especially in the universities. German POWs were used as forced labour in the UK for a period after the war (nothing like as long as ten to fifteen years) but there was no officially-sanctioned mistreatment and public opinion would not have tolerated this. One of the detention camps was at Clapham, near Bedford (now the site of the Yarl's Wood Immigration Return Centre) and to my own personal knowledge, the detainees were allowed out of the camp on Sundays, provided that they didn't stray into any town or village with a railway station. (Thus basically confining them to Clapham, Bromham and Oakley, which might have been pretty boring but which wasn't fatal.) Nobody starved at Clapham or any of the other camps in the UK. When the men from Clapham were repatriated to Germany, it took precisely a fortnight for the first one "Cyril Razcuk" to reappear in Bromham, saying that he didn't like the look of postwar Germany: he married a local woman and is buried in St Owen's churchyard, next to his mistress, rather than his wife. This isn't a figment of my imagination: I used to speak to Cyril when he was looking after the churchyard. By the mid fifties, there were a couple of dozen former "Nazi" prisoners who'd reached the same conclusion and returned to Bedfordshire for a life that was more like pre-war Germany than post-war Germany was. I used to live in a 18th century cottage that was rebuilt, from a ruin, by a former German POW who made a new life for himself farming pigs in Clifton and doing up old buildings. None of these men was persecuted (In Bedfordshire, at least) for being German and one of them became a welding tutor at Barnfield College in Luton and was very well thought of by two generations of students. From the point of the Italian surrender in 1943 to the end of hostilities, Italian POWs in the UK were simply paid to continue the work they had been doing as prisoners, and as more of Italy became liberated, more of them were able to send money home to their families. They seem to have been sent home as soon as the British authorities had large numbers of Germans on their hands and needed space in the camps. After the war, there was a fresh influx of Italian workers, as immigrants with their families this time. The official line was and is that these were purely economic migrants, but I've heard the older ones say that they were protesting with their feet against the abolition of the Italian Monarchy and wanted to live in a "Royal" country. None of these people were aristocrats or even "middle class" they were manual labourers -and they weren't buying what the Italian political elite were selling!

[@doraran5158]

No, the NAZIs were very anti-gun. I have an English translation of the 1938 NAZI gun law, where CIVILIAN gun ownership strictly controlled to 'sporting type' firearms, and vast segments of German population totally forbidden gun ownership. The National Socialist Workers's Party (NAZI) were allowed and encouraged their unilateral state of armament. This is not unlike Mao's 'Peoples' Militia' or more currently where civilian gun ownership banned in Venezuela with much publicized confiscations and destruction and their now arming 400,000 Socialist loyalists. As far as Hitler, he WAS an atheist! No one questioned socialist Castro's atheism when he embraced 'liberation Theology' to control mostly Catholic masses of Latin America and Carribrean, ,with the likes of the Berrigan brothers, et. al., since every one realized it was just political expediency. Decades earlier National Socialist Hitler's utilization of political expediency of squawking Christianity (that he described as the biggest joke the Jews played on humanity) similarly was used to control the mostly Christian German masses. National Socialism, Soviet Socialism and current socialist incarnations are all branches of the same tree, much like Catholisism and Protestanism are branches of Christianity or Sunni and Shi'ah are branches of Islam. Socialism believes people are property of the state, with 'enlightened' elitist only ones smart enough to decide privileges and prohibitions. NAZI's believed party came before family, with youth camps to early instill this value. Aryan Germans, then like now, had a below normal birth rate (compared with non-Aryans) and while it was 'abortion uber allis' for the deplorables, 'Aryans' were encouraged to do what they weren't doing. Eugenic advocate and founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, was well admired by the 'progressive' NAZI thinkers of era. Ultimately, breeding camps were planned to eliminate the family, assuring children raised 'properly' with full loyalty to party, since parents couldn't really be trusted. (Their are some socialists in US that currently advocate similar views.) Additionally, the deformed, mentally retarded, and others deemed 'imperfect' were taken from families, 'for their own good', and eliminated. (After all what 'quality of life could they enjoy? Was that NAZI Germany or contemporary socialist Iceland?) Hitler was a beast of humanity, all the gun control, universal health care, universal literacy, public works projects, etc. can NEVER negate the evil he and his party did to innocents.

[@Baal49]

Matthew Spencer i

[@doraran5158]

The 1930's, in Western Europe, was characterized by low both rates among the dominant population groups. This situation wasn't confined to just Germany, but also France, Netherlands, etc. This is historical fact. It's not because 'they couldn't procreate' it's because they didn't want to and also because they were more prone to utilize contraception. Big families, especially among Protestants, were regarded as 'low class' and 'Papist'. This phenomenon not unique in Germany, with decades later, this mindset being parodied by Monty Python with the 'Every Sperm is Sacred Song', demeaning large families. Third Reich needed more Aryan babies and less deplorable babies, hence the enhancements for more Aryan births and more abortions and mandatory sterilizations for deplorable entities.

[@TheMrarthas]

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[@TheMrarthas]

ty, I do what i can for the interwebs

[@jort93z]

looks like a really specialized book, but definitly not a bad one.