Gurdjieff Unveiled: The Art of The Conscious Shock

[@wesleysullivan8047]

Good stuff Lewis. This situation was a great example of external considering. Gurdjieff could see into all the people around him, he knew exactly who and what they were. He knew beforehand what effect such an action would have, because he knew them so well. He knew beforehand what their subjective view would be of the shock, and thus knew the outcome. The situation highlights the level of insight he possessed. The amount of energy required for someone to have that level of awareness must have been palpable.

[@bookclub5291]

Hey Wesley! He definitely knew what people needed to proceed in their own evolution and awakening. It’s a shame that some of his followers couldn’t grasp it for themselves. I thoroughly enjoyed Peters’ recollections of his time with Mr. G

[@TheHajah1]

The experience of being on the receiving end, is unmistakable… the word Conscious is key I think.. it has to be from the higher to the lower to create the middle.. & looking back at my many years of Working with JGBennett , Elizabeth Bennett & Pierre Elliot, who were all direct Students of Mr G, the shock is delivered differently from each, I suspect that Pierre’s method was, as the Sly Man, nearest in method to Mr G . Your reading from Fritz Peters has added facets of understanding to one of the more memorable shocks that I have gratefully received. So maybe unless we are able to stand as Man no 5, we should leave shocks to arise by the quality of our own Work… the Law of Falling is equivalent to gravity & according to Rupert sheldrake in a recent conversation, it’s not so much about falling as being drawn towards the stronger magnetic energy.. Thank you this was very much appreciated

[@bookclub5291]

Glad you found the video valuable. Thanks for your input. 🙏

[@F8LDN]

What an amazing story, thanks for sharing

[@bookclub5291]

Glad you enjoyed it! You are very welcome 🙏

[@alessandroprascina9795]

I tre libri di Fritz Peters dedicati alla relazione con il Sig. Gurdjieff, pur non essendo un suo allievo, trasudano del Lavoro. Ci immergono in una dimensione dell'Essere sconosciuta dell'uomo Gurdjieff e del suo Insegnamento. I tormenti esistenziali di Peters, le contraddizioni e la vitalità ci conducono a respirare una visione pratica, diretta, direi essenziale dell'Opera. Le sue comprensioni così mi toccano “Ciò che sapevo da bambino, comincio a comprenderlo, oggi, da adulto. Gurdjieff praticava l'amore in una forma sconosciuta pressoché a tutti: senza limiti. Nell'accezione gurdjieffiana, 'essere o non essere' non è un dilemma che presuppone una valutazione morale. È una premessa a una soluzione inevitabile. Avendo conosciuto Gurdjieff, vi è una sola risposta possibile e, quindi, il dilemma non si pone”.

[@bookclub5291]

English translation with the help of Google translate: The three books by Fritz Peters dedicated to the relationship with Mr. Gurdjieff, despite not being his student, exude Work. They immerse us in an unknown dimension of the Being of the Gurdjieff man and his Teaching. Peters' existential torments, contradictions and vitality lead us to breathe a practical, direct, I would say essential vision of the Work. His understandings thus touch me “What I knew as a child, I begin to understand today as an adult. Gurdjieff practiced love in a form unknown to almost everyone: without limits. In the Gurdjieffian sense, 'to be or not to be' is not a dilemma that presupposes a moral evaluation. It is a premise to an inevitable solution. Having known Gurdjieff, there is only one possible answer and, therefore, the dilemma does not arise."

[@bookclub5291]

Thank you for sharing these thoughts with us! 🙏

[@likeakite]

I loved the story of when Mr G was ill and Fritz Peters continued mowing the grass.

[@bookclub5291]

Yes, I remember that one vividly too! ‘You must cut the grass… no matter what happens..’ what a beautiful memoir of his young years with Gurdjieff. 😊🙏

[@likeakite]

@@bookclub5291 especially for a young man to go against the wishes/demands of the elder members

[@Heavypsychoverdose]

For people of this path you know and who actively work on themselves shocks yes, but general sleeping people no it often creates more harm than good.

[@bookclub5291]

A great point. Thank you 🙏

[@peterdoh3078]

Yes, a wonderful story. I will reread with interest. Thank you for your commentary

[@bookclub5291]

It’s a wonderful book, and Peters writes very nicely. Glad you enjoyed it 🙏

[@prashant4]

Thank you Lewis! 🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️🌹

[@bookclub5291]

You are very welcome. Glad you enjoyed it 😊🙏

[@lorib7072]

Sometimes silence is golden,..😂 I always have to take a pause and decide if I want to waste my energy 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@wesleysullivan8047]

Indeed.

[@stephenlarn2672]

gratitude

[@bookclub5291]

🙏

[@alejandrovillanueva5386]

Wonderful Story. One cannot make it up

[@bookclub5291]

Amazing isn’t it! More Gurdjieff stories to come.. 🙏

[@alejandrovillanueva5386]

Thank You so much for all the time and dedication in sharing this so valuable material, and your personal contributions also

[@waldek32]

I can't stop imagine Gurdijeff as Yoda from star wars. Even the English of his is the same ...

[@bookclub5291]

Ha ha. I agree with that. Especially Peters’ interpretation of his dialogue. It’s wonderful to read and almost hear him speaking.

[@davidwebber6314]

Excellent video

[@bookclub5291]

Thank you very much! 🙏

[@abdullahziya993]

🙏🙏🙏

[@bookclub5291]

😊🙏

[@grahamfortune1528]

We assume essence is all good , people can have the essence of a savage an animal . It is essence that is asleep,. to shock essence awake may reveal a monster . Let sleeping dogs lie.

[@bookclub5291]

A great point. Wise words! 🙏

[@stevefrompolaca2403]

maybe a monster, maybe an angel.... every stick has 2 ends 1 good 1 bad ;)

[@carenkurdjinian5413]

………🌞………..

[@bookclub5291]

😊🙏