Because of this video I got the S-Type on my 2020 Camaro SS!
@LVraider677 жыл бұрын
S type all day... Love that old school sounds!
@adroseZL17 жыл бұрын
The only thing with the s-type is that the mic can not pick up the deep tone, I also have an S-Type and video never does the the sound justice ...it's not as loud as the ATAK but it is deeper
@Lethalgarage7 жыл бұрын
Even a pro mic doesn't capture it. Makes me sad.
@STILLNIGHTPEARL7 жыл бұрын
I still think the stock NPP sounds good, the more miles i put on my car, the louder it seems to be getting. In this video I like the S type more.
@jamesmin28377 жыл бұрын
Alfred Hernandez Same here. Was planning for aftermarket exhaust, until I realized how loud it already is, especially indoors. It's about as loud as it can be, without waking up kids up from their sleep.
@STILLNIGHTPEARL7 жыл бұрын
James Min yeah man like the first couple of thousand miles it wasn't that loud, but now that I'm over 6k miles, it seems to be getting louder and louder. I stepped on it under a tunnel the other day and I was like damn this car is loud! Even some of my friends have asked if I have done anything to it and I'm like nope.
@drumstrings7267 жыл бұрын
Alfred Hernandez same here. I have the 2016 1ss with dual mode exhaust and it did get louder with time. My neighbors know when I'm coming home from work😀
@claystar9valor7 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize till I noticed some people jump when I start my car
@NA-du5vm7 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Waste of money to go with an aftermarket. Borla starting price for their system is $1700.???? Fuck that!
@harleymike777 жыл бұрын
I have the Borla S-Type Axle-Back on my 2SS Anniversary convertible. You nailed it! I know it's sometimes difficult to hear the true sound in a video clip, but you absolutely nailed it Matt! AWESOME video. I can see a LOT of people using this video for comparisons. I have "earmarked" it for future reference. Thanks. Mike
@johnb32314 жыл бұрын
How much of a difference over stock npp did it make??
@mgelifestyle65876 жыл бұрын
Why the hell is there so many damn camaros sitting around.
@iNFRAREDvi5 жыл бұрын
MGE Lifestyle first thing I thought 😂
@olyravioli5 жыл бұрын
Well you clicked on a Camaro page. Not sure why you are surprised. Also, your grammar could improve.
@JRBORIQUA75 жыл бұрын
MGE Lifestyle I love it 🥰 There should be a lots more Camaro!!!
@techcool69234 жыл бұрын
@@JRBORIQUA7 yea I fuc with u
@littlejimmy53703 жыл бұрын
Cause the car Gods love us
@claystar9valor7 жыл бұрын
Both sound great, but I like the deeper, more hollow sound the S type makes.
@b1le7147 жыл бұрын
Liked the s type idle but liked atak drive by.
@monther.c77 жыл бұрын
Love the Atak
@bigchatz097 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Matt, both cars sound really good. Whether stick or auto the tone as they go into the higher rpms sounds very aggressive so its a win win for both sides 👍 keep up the great work man!
@bingster-2237 жыл бұрын
I liked the s type better at idle but both on drive by, really can't go wrong either way
@sergiomoreira77057 жыл бұрын
Just recently swapped my stock dual exhaust on the 2ss to the quad Borla S-Type cat-back and it sounds great. I think if you use your camaro for daily driving ATAK might be a little too loud. Great video comparison!
@19bdc68 Жыл бұрын
I think the S type has the sound I want more. Don't want it louder, just lower in tone.
@dogdaybreak31575 жыл бұрын
Have the S-type. It sounds awesome and it's quieter than the ATAK.
@packermandan7 жыл бұрын
I have the Borla ATAK on my Z06 Corvette and it sounds awesome. I like loud cars and the ATAK was advertised as Borla's loudest exhaust so I went with it and I'm very happy.
@jrodz94966 жыл бұрын
I installed the S type yesterday in my Camaro 2016. Sounds AWESOME.
@rmunoz3605 жыл бұрын
Are you getting any drone? Read somewhere else that the drone sound was an issue when the active fuel management activated on the 5th gen camaros.
@kevinrayburn35775 жыл бұрын
This makes me wish my Borla ATAK would not take another week to get here... I keep watching vids on it!
@lz31lJL4 жыл бұрын
How restrictive are the factory exhaust systems on the 6th gen camaro ss? And are there any gains from an axleback setup or is just a noise maker?
@Azerlazer264 жыл бұрын
This video REALLY helped me out! Thank you Matt 🙏🏻 Got a Borla S-Type axle back on the way for my SS.
@balisong05624 жыл бұрын
No regrets vs atak.
@Azerlazer264 жыл бұрын
Balisong05 very satisfied with the S-Type. I’ve never heard the ATAK in person due to there being very few Camaros in my area. The S-Type really sounds a lot more aggressive in person. Cameras never do it justice!
@balisong05624 жыл бұрын
@@Azerlazer26 appreciate the reply. Really torn. Does the s type leave you wanting more? I'm really wanting that muscle car sound vs the exotic tone of the say corsa.
@Azerlazer264 жыл бұрын
Balisong05 Me personally, the S-Type is the sweet spot. It’s not ear bursting loud but not “quiet” like the stock NPP exhaust. I wouldn’t change my setup at all! The exhaust does offer a deeper muscular tone over the stock. If you’re in Michigan I wouldn’t mind meeting up so you can hear the car.
@balisong05624 жыл бұрын
@@Azerlazer26 s type it is. I live 10min from summit auto racing, and its in stock. Cstback it is... thanks again!
@icem1997 жыл бұрын
ATAK because race car sounds
@gabea.4587 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the cat backs. I didn't hear a ton of difference so that being said I probably lean towards the S-type since it's supposed to be slightly milder. That way if I eliminate the secondary cats or do headers it won't be out of control. Daily driver.
@Vette6n411 Жыл бұрын
Matt, love your channel !. running a fifty 2ss- without NPP. Looking for something for more sound, but I mostly drive long cruises. I added Borla axle back on an 89 vette, hated to drone/sold the car. Thinking about the S-Type, very interested in a comparison inside the car at cruise (70-90). Can you hear the radio? You had a video, but with windows open
@Lethalgarage Жыл бұрын
This was so long ago. But the S-Type is very tame inside. They also don’t drone.
@thecorncrew59817 жыл бұрын
Great content! Would be nice to have a stock exhaust setup sound as a control though.
@kylebrundage66914 жыл бұрын
Caught between the atak in choosing axile back or cat back. Is there a significant sound difference between the two? Would like my car to be more aggressive then stock. Also going to do a secondary cat delete. Look forward to your reply thanks brotha
@82bowtiejones5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I was up in the air in both. Your video helped me decide on getting the S-Type for me 2SS RS Manual. I was hesitant because I was worrying about cabin drone. But thought screw it I only drive it once every two weeks. Time to make some music. Subscribed.
@franksaglimbeni540Ай бұрын
S type going on my 2SS next week don't want it to loud just a little louder than stock
@SkyWalker-sz5gf7 жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting on more comparison videos! I think the S type sounds so much better, more cracks and pops. I do wish Borla didn't make the inside of the tips narrow like that but other than that I think I'm going to order my S type catback right now!! Nice vid.
@goodknight68287 жыл бұрын
atak has a slightly better tone but both sound great 👍
@ren50437 жыл бұрын
Rasec the Stype has more of an old school sound to it.
@jeanvazquez19656 жыл бұрын
Can’t go wrong with either, but after hearing dozens of 6 gens, I personally prefer the s-type.
@ByozHeat3 жыл бұрын
Got me an ATAK cat back and had it on for a while before I replaced the headers and mids. Longtube headers with the ATAK cat back are so loud it’s not even funny. Thing cracks at every gear on the rev down just below 4K. This video didn’t quite capture that from the ATAK but you do hear it on the S. I think it’s due to the automatic transmission. Mine sounds like F1 loud especially in a downtown environment.
@montoyagunn177 жыл бұрын
Good video mat. I honestly didnt know about E85 making the exhaust note different then 91. I have the Atak installed on my SS and I have notice a different sound when I drive in manual mode vs Auto. The exhaust seems deeper or more throaty but I'm am going to test your theory with 91 vs E85 sound quality. Again great video, keep them coming.
@N0LYF37 жыл бұрын
do you think its worth spending the money on a 2ss for the leather?
@keithcastleberry39934 жыл бұрын
Leaning towards the S Type. Both sound great under acceleration or drive-bys but I like the S Type better not in motion nor under load.
@Balisong0054 жыл бұрын
18 zl1 here. torn between the two. hearing in person is believing. Looking for a low tone muscle car throaty sound vs the high popping pitched tone. still want loud very aggressive sounds, but not "exotic" sounds. muscle car lope. cutback system going in. Thoughts? And thanks!
@tremellk7 жыл бұрын
A stock setup comparison would have made this video perfect
@hubblefubble11797 жыл бұрын
Both sound awesome! Now I have a 2017 2SS and I have noticed a more pronounced exhaust burble/grumble when I've got the actual drive mode in Track. It also has a better throttle response too. When these videos are made, it doesn't sound like they have it in Track mode. I've got stock NPP and when I've got everything set in Track mode, it is literally music with the smallest of throttle blips. For the sake of comparing exhaust notes, these cars should go through all the driving modes (not just exhaust modes). Give it a true test. It does make a difference. :)
@keithcastleberry39934 жыл бұрын
Question: on the 6th gen 2SS what determines if the factory exhaust has dual or single tips???
@AustinMathias7 жыл бұрын
Hi Lethal I watch your videos all the time and they are awesome! I have a quick question. I am ordering a new exhaust for my 2018 1le I just bought. I was wondering if I have to order the Borla Ataks with NPP or if I can order them without NPP. Will it hurt my car if I get them without or? I'm really not sure so I figured you would have the answer to this! Thank you!!
@Lethalgarage7 жыл бұрын
+AustinMathiasMedia Responded In IG
@peter__p_a_n25637 жыл бұрын
Nice vid Matt, hope you had a good time again here in good old Germany. Take care.
@ryanleasure36702 жыл бұрын
Okay so please answer this comment if you can….I currently have a 2022 2ss manual. How much louder is the atak axle back compared to the stock exhaust? I do have npp. So I can open or close if I want. I am looking for loud. I’m just trying to figure out if the axle back is significantly louder than stock? Opinions????
@Lethalgarage2 жыл бұрын
If you still have both cats it will not be that much louder. Once the secondary cats get removed, that’s when the tone really steps up.
@EyeBher4 жыл бұрын
I'm going with the Atak for my SS. Was this shot in Moreno Valley? I'm a newly Camaro owner. I'm looking for friends.
@Confidential6195 жыл бұрын
The atak is more beefy sound but the s type has crackles and it’s not that much of a difference from the loudness anyway. I would get the s type. My uncle has the atak on his Silverado though and it is pretty loud.
@lazytroy7462 жыл бұрын
Comment after I installed my catback ATAK, it is too loud when I daily drive my car, especially when I removed the back seat. I am absolutely love the sound of my exhaust. Everyone who took a ride with me love the exhaust. The sound is incredible when the car drive pass the safety wall on the track.
@aaronlothamer66183 жыл бұрын
Will the S Type retain that deep tone with headers? Running Kooks 1 7/8” with hi flow cars to stock NPP exhaust right now. Not sure I like it.
@slothin217 жыл бұрын
What the hell....the S-Type did sound a lot deeper.
@slothin217 жыл бұрын
Yeah it does. Although I have been starting to enjoy the sounds my stock NPP exhaust has been making recently. At first I really wanted to change it up but it's really opened up over the last few months. It gurgles and pops so damn much on deceleration over 2k. I still think the Borla system sounds better on idle and lower gear. I will probably change it up to Borla S-Type at some point.
@slothin217 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks for the info
@Dude-tb8ry4 жыл бұрын
M S did you pair it with an x pipe or h pipe?
@jeoshdjsks58033 жыл бұрын
@M S 3 years later hope you still have it, got a 2019 Camaro 2ss yes stock sounds amazing it pops so much. Would it be better getting attack or s type?
@HBMAN19957 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think my NPP sounds better than both of them. And I can suppress it for long trip/when needed. Thrilled with the way this car sounds right out of the factory. Not to mention the overrun....the crackles and burbles are addicting.
@STILLNIGHTPEARL7 жыл бұрын
HB305 I agree man, the NPP sounds good for what it is.
@MrArthurlee336 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to make it louder at lower rpms’s , but keep the cracks and bubbles ?
@conductorjohnmthtrains22394 жыл бұрын
Will installing a Borla Axel-Back on my ‘17 v6 camaro cause problems with engine check light or anything else, thanks Lethal
@berhanwar3 жыл бұрын
No
@conductorjohnmthtrains22393 жыл бұрын
@@berhanwar wow ten months later
@RoadhogRNA7 жыл бұрын
I liked the S Type better. To me it didn't sound as tinney as the ATAK did. I also agree the S type does have a more old school sound to it. Which i really like!!!
@RoadhogRNA7 жыл бұрын
i agree 100%
@Dnasty12 жыл бұрын
The borla s sounds great. Is there a way to have this sound when reviving but not that idle noise that sounds like gluglugglug? I’m sure there’s a term for this but I dunno what it is.
@Arroyo13225 жыл бұрын
Just got a 2019 ss with out the npp exhaust which of these do u guys recommend i should get??
@shatz727 жыл бұрын
Atak has a bark and the s type is more refined..little softer growl to it. Both are nice. To be honest...it was hard to discern the differences in sound during the drive by's.
@TheAlphamullet4 жыл бұрын
What is CLOSED valve volume like? Compared to stock NPP CLOSED valve? LOUD is easy.....not hard to have loud, but I'd like it louder than stock when closed, but not obnoxious. Whole point of the NPP in my opinion.
@ivansotelo81634 жыл бұрын
Would this be better than a muffler delete and a x pipe? Meaning little louder..for l99
@vantorian6 жыл бұрын
S all day everyday baby!!!
@goata82 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing these were all done with npp valves closed? Bc wouldn’t having the valves open kind of defeat the purpose?
@ricekrispyplayer4 жыл бұрын
Thinking of installing an exhaust on my Camaro SS any problems or a check engine light?
@richki.245 жыл бұрын
Both sound really nice ...
@mronissopwnage5 жыл бұрын
I have the s-type axelback. Sounds really amazing!!!
@Fullmetal2023 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about getting the atak or the s type axelback, am i looking at getting pulled over when i drive with the atak vs the s type?
@PaulW98Z4 жыл бұрын
Which is deeper in tone? S type or your Stainless Works when you first installed it?
@Lethalgarage4 жыл бұрын
Stainless works in my opinion
@wyattracing_andreviews11553 жыл бұрын
i was wondering if youd sell the front picture svg black and white clip art?
@cprooks Жыл бұрын
S Type With Secondary With Cat Delete 10/10
@StreetSpeed9047 жыл бұрын
I like both because Murica!
@michaelgonzalez32087 жыл бұрын
That Racing Dude Murcia is a sarcastic satire joke meaning fat, lazy, low iq, etc.
@StreetSpeed9047 жыл бұрын
michael gonzalez I didn't put that this time, but I've typed it before on accident.
@fastaSSalex7 жыл бұрын
The outro to your videos of your car leaving just sounds so dam awesome
@Lethalgarage7 жыл бұрын
Courtesy of #StainlessWorks
@jonathanstonebraker52415 жыл бұрын
I have 2020 2SS without the npp. I want that rumble sound along with the crackles that follow for the s type. Since I don’t have the npp with it still sound similar to that one??
@rashidbelk25956 жыл бұрын
just curious why people don't just get the Atak cat-back it's about the same price as the axleback? Also is the axleback much louder than stock?
@Craftsmansteve7 жыл бұрын
I have mixed ideas on putting an exhaust on my 2016 v6 Camaro. If I do, what do you recommend?
@JayyNation7 жыл бұрын
Craftsmansteve magnaflow race series axle back
@freddymontenegro54195 жыл бұрын
Craftsmansteve Hi there! I’m in the same position you were a year ago, which on did you get??
@TheBorgCollective5 жыл бұрын
How is cabin drone with either of them? That's my main concern right now as I would be using it as a daily.
@Lethalgarage5 жыл бұрын
The drone is minimal, the exhaust sound is loud :)
@zhizhangzeng8326 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 Camaro ss and I want to buy S-type exhaust. Can you tell me what is the difference between Borla Model 11924 and 11920? I don't know about NPP, But 11920 will be cheaper. Can my car install 11920? I hope you can tell me, thank you.
@rmunoz3605 жыл бұрын
The 11920 is for the non npp models. The npp has dual exhaust tips on each muffler. Non npp are only single tip on each side.
@ricardogracia31527 жыл бұрын
I dont think saying "we making drive bys" is a good idea 😂
@Expoh7 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you for this Lethal!!!
@MrTimdtoolman17 жыл бұрын
To be honest they both sound very good, I couldn't say which one sounded better. I would say it was a tie based on this comparison.
@allenhunter76532 ай бұрын
I have the s type. Quiet idle and cruise. Step on it, then it puts out the growl! Don't piss off your neighbors! 😂
@davidwebb_7 жыл бұрын
Thank you I've been waiting for someone to finally do a video like this!! #lethalforthewin
@leonhoang7494 жыл бұрын
Hi if we install the header on do u think it will pop up the check engine light? I'm curious !
@Lethalgarage4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@nativenewyorker24904 жыл бұрын
@@Lethalgarage i now have a zl1, but my 2014 2ss had kooks long tubes and atak cat back and i never had a cel. not sure if the roto-fab and the tune had something to do with no cel.
@cemsengul166 жыл бұрын
LS3 sounds better with an ATAK. Is this because of the NPP on the new Camaro SS?
@ChristonHan6 жыл бұрын
are these with resonators and mufflers? or without?
@ProjectRecon17 жыл бұрын
would love to hear both of these with secondary cat deletes. cant tell if i like the CF tips
@jamessteffen097 жыл бұрын
They both sound great, I've got the 2.0 but I have a completely different borla set up on mine.
@chrisayala73603 жыл бұрын
Just got a 2.0 which one you got
@jamessteffen093 жыл бұрын
Well i had the 2.0 but ended up trading in for the 18 ss but i kept the same model muffler. I have the xr1. But on my ss set up i bought two mufflers and ended up using the one from my 2.0 on my jeep.
@nayhtoo97315 жыл бұрын
Wait what exhaust was that one with the last short clip of video? It sound pretty cool.
@aaronrambo19963 жыл бұрын
Yeah tell us
@vincents30417 жыл бұрын
are the pops from Ricefed because of the S-Type or the different Gas she is running ? @LethalGarage
@Lethalgarage7 жыл бұрын
she was on pump 91
@robertaparicio75884 жыл бұрын
What would be louder S type or XR-1?
@ammooth15922 жыл бұрын
I like the Borla Atak 💯
@SplashgameFTW6 жыл бұрын
does the valvetronic system to quiet/louden the car still work with these axle backs?
@vexhhgaming566 жыл бұрын
Notorious IG no.however, you can buy NPP compatible ones but they are much more expensive
@menddzr17 жыл бұрын
They both sound good. What about drone? Maybe a video comparison? Keep up the good work.👍
@Lethalgarage7 жыл бұрын
Borla typically dosen't drone.
@xxbestchapoxxgarcia53317 жыл бұрын
I think they both sound pretty good
@40ozflocko337 жыл бұрын
borla Cat-back is the same diameter as stock is it really work the extra $500 over the axle back?
@Lethalgarage7 жыл бұрын
depends if you like the tone it provides. It will net you zero performance gains.
@40ozflocko337 жыл бұрын
LethalGarage idk if i'd pay $500 extra for a slightly better note. lol guess i'll need an Axle vs Cat video. going S-type for sure though
@therobotwithhumanhair38465 жыл бұрын
Love the vids, recent subscriber. Do you happen to know if these Borla systems had NPP valves?
@Lethalgarage5 жыл бұрын
They did
@therobotwithhumanhair38465 жыл бұрын
@@Lethalgarage Can you convert to dual tip system from stock w/ out having to have NPP dual mode? I recently bought a 2018 SS and its completely stock. I'm excited to get started and I reference your vids for practical upgrades. Also whats your go to for aftermarket parts? I appreciate the advise!
@PaulW98Z6 жыл бұрын
Would love to find a vid that shows the sound differences between different brands and similar setups. I know you did the one with yours vs kooks vs hooker headers vs GM with sec cats deletes. Is there one out there that compares the borla, corsa, hooker, stainless works, etc all in one vid?
@Lethalgarage6 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen one.
@wrzl16752 жыл бұрын
Difference in sound between auto and manual is AFM, it has nothing to do with idle speed. AFM goes away when you do a DOD delete like mine.
@ammooth15922 жыл бұрын
And I'm going with a manual BIG TIME 💯
@whocares32527 жыл бұрын
The auto didn't seem to pop on upshifts like mine does with NPP.
@TheStig_1LE7 жыл бұрын
Has the secondary cats been removed on any of these cars?
@Lethalgarage7 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@2ssharpcamaro6206 жыл бұрын
Was that your Camaro ending the vid? Stock exhaust?
@Lethalgarage6 жыл бұрын
Stainless Works Exhaust.
@wescopeland17 жыл бұрын
s type all day
@Drill_Time5 жыл бұрын
Anyone know the name of that car wrap on the Camaro with the Borla Atak?
@kt843436 жыл бұрын
What is the wing called on the Camaro running the Atak
@negativesplits066 жыл бұрын
Crazy_K01 Wickerbill
@yapdonavan1282 жыл бұрын
Every time I go to that street in Mexico there is a bunch a cars around ..
@yoavlitman26827 жыл бұрын
At idle or low rpm's i like the "S" better but then at the high rpm's i like the "atak" better!!
@Spurrr6 жыл бұрын
Have you ever gotten pulled over from the sound before?
@kevinmazter5 ай бұрын
Was the Resonators on either of the cars
@kevinmazter5 ай бұрын
And all 4 cats?
@Lethalgarage5 ай бұрын
6th gen’s do not have resonators…. They have 2 sets of cats