BORN INTERSEX: A LIFE STORY

MALE, FEMALE, BOTH?
On this episode of Conversations with Dr. Dora, we hear the inspiring and difficult story of an intersex person.
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[@user-rb9sc1ok4j]

What an eye opening interview. I truely commend both the interviewer and the interviewee for conducting this conversation the way they did.

[@raymondtendau2749]

I admire his/her courage. Really admirable. No matter your take on this issue, kindly try not to be judgemental. For he didnt choose to be this way.

[@michelleweatherspoon8087]

This person is a very beautiful person.

[@naomikalemba7205]

This interviewer was done so well. The sensitivity, respect, and the attention to detail were on point. Not intrusive at all. And Mphatso, very articulate. You have educated us well today.

[@pgnamaka]

Totally agree!!!❤❤❤❤

[@clarkmelinda6663]

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[@CharmedR1]

This was a successful interview on so many levels The gentleman has class. He showed that he developed his attitude not as a result of negativity but as a result of positive. He was never defensive and offensive. Yes hus situation is different but he grew to make decisions based on the reality of who he is. This could be contentious ( my interpretation) he never used the term "feeling" unlike persons who when asked to explain their gender identity or choice. He has done his research and he's able to articulate his responses clearly and unflustered. Dr Dora's questions were what all of us would have asked. She made it comfortable for him. It was indeed a lesson for me. I have heard of hermaphrodite but never heard of "intersex" His explanation made me realize and accept how it could be. I hope that his journey forward is filled with continued blessings.

[@CharmedR1]

@@Sydney-McKee thank you so very much for responding with clarification. Lovely connecting. May your journey forward be one filled with people and experiences who/that respect not tolerance and empathy not sympathy.

[@williejinnahkosseh2289]

My total support and respect goes to this young man- guest. I hope UN and Africa raise awareness to this. He educates me and I send my gratitude 🙏 to him. Please, Host , involve in any organisation this man will create to educate the world. Thx

[@dolly1523]

There are well documented studies showing that the UN funded the production and distribution of certain chemicals sprayed in areas of Africa intended to kill off mosquitoes and prevent malaria…and one of the side effects of the good intentioned endeavor is that they discovered that every where they sprayed…people started having intersex babies. We now know that this is due to the endocrine disrupting chemicals. Aside from chemical exposure…intersex conditions tend to be very rare.

[@jennysiankali1295]

I love the way he answered all the questions with less challenges and I respect the fact that he has data about the case and looking at him,u can tell that he can't be intimidated by anyone.....bravo dear

[@sharonthomas499]

Not only is the interviewee a beautiful person but very brilliant and articulate. God bless you and give you His peace and joy unspeakable joy, full of His glory! ❤❤❤

[@williebrown4960]

I am an American living in Pennsylvania. I appreciate this interview even though I do not know anyone who is intersex it’s lightning and surely educational. Thank you.

[@yvonnebrowne9116]

You are very brave and honest. Continue to love God. He is loving and is your Creator. He loves you soooo much!

[@ugoeziegwim1552]

Is it the same as hermaphrodite.

[@rubywedderburn9487]

​@ugoeziegwim1552 I was wondering the same thing too🤔

[@fantasticmrfox7497]

I take away from this interview that intersex is a contnium hence diverse presentations. I am really greatful to have had this opportunity to hear about the Social impact of being intersex amongst the various educative discussion. Thanks to everyone involved in bringing this toipc to us.

[@user-rf2rw9kp2y]

Very brave mpaso, continue advocating for such people,we are proud of you as a nation 🙏

[@imaginelovepeaceandhappine3281]

I’m surprised and proud that many are respecting that he identify as a male. I’m sure it’s confusing and judgmental by many because he has very large breast. I’m glad there is an advocate in the country for the intersex people.

[@elizabethlowe9618]

We are not to judge him that is how God create 🙏 🙌 him ,this person is a miracle 🙏 👏 on earth showing how God can be Himself Mama and papa 🙏 ❤ one spirit .

[@katongokasonka2393]

The young man/woman is so eloquent and articulate i feel like i know all about the condition

[@magdavanderlith925]

Amazing interview. Both such intelligent and stunning people. Thank you.

[@thehumbleone3853]

Love this topic Society need to accept that those ppl did not have a choice in their making Therefore they should be treated with love and respect Acceptance shouldn't be hard

[@thobekazabo5019]

Thank you for such an informative, respectful, and eye-opening session. Stay blessed

[@ArinolaOniyide]

Dr. Dora, you're a fantastic host and interviewer. You exude empathy and intelligence. You are the real queen of talk❤ lots of love ❤️ from Nigeria. My empathy with intersex people . Your guest is great , intelligent, and so passionate to help other intersex live in equity as good and productive life as citizens.

[@virginiamacebo2250]

I dont even know where to start. I had loads of questions answered from this interview. My heart goes to Doc the interviewer and Sakala I salute you to be brave to face the world and answer these questions. I shed a tear, putting myself into your shoes. I am here praying for your strength. God Loves you and created you in a position he found fitting. 🙏

[@patwilson7596]

Such a good interview!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 When I was in nursing school I saw a baby born with male and female genetalia. "Ambiguous Genetalia" That was back in 1975. Im happy to hear you speak out on it. Continue to be an advocate 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾and educate those who have no knowledge about babies being born with this imperfection.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@imaginelovepeaceandhappine3281]

Is being born intersex an imperfection? I don’t believe he called it or think of it as an imperfection.

[@bongiwencayiyana220]

Whaaw what a strong positive and an intelligent interesting interview😊😊Thankyou and good luck young man.

[@florencenyatsine1156]

Very insightful interview. Thank you so much for being brave to share your story. You’re eloquent and humble. May God continue the bless you and guide you in all your future endeavors. Thank you Dr Dora, you’re amazing, keep up the good work..

[@malonmwambazi554]

Some situations are difficult to explain. All the best to you and everyone in this situation

[@walusunguzimba7739]

He is such an intelligent guy. Thanks mphasa

[@ettienewand9850]

A very mature and sound conversation. We need policy change /development to allow for these cases.I wish Mpaso courage in this endeavour and courage to all those struggling with this experience. To parents raising intersex children, courage to you too.There will be a time when our deep ignorance on these issues will fade.Much love from 🇰🇪.

[@marthamungure1777]

Very brilliant and brave person. More grace to you

[@sholaawe1028]

So Educative, good information, Your Guests, Very Very intelligent, l Wish him the Best things of Life, and Should Always remember God👏💖.

[@alsolomantrotman6969]

If it's intersex while label it as a gender??

[@sakalameck]

Loud and clear. Very confident, not emotional like other activists do. He has wise parents and he respects them too.

[@EstherShawa-ye1gw]

Very very intelligent interview with mama Dora. Mpatso is very brave to come out openly and talk about such issues usually kept secret in our society. God bless you and hopefully people can become more aware and informed.

[@kjmax1068]

I read or watched about this condition decades ago and it amazes me that more people don't understand this. Especially now with the DNA knowledge universally. Hoping your interviews will open more eyes and ears

[@Buddy69Love]

Excellent interview, thank you for sharing👍

[@silviersabi8964]

A true journalist that she is,,, interesting interview.... very insightful

[@prince_success]

Very rear and special people only God can explain but heyy life goes on..mphatso is very intelligent,special credit to ISSZ thanks Dr Dora for this lovely sensitization.

[@alsolomantrotman6969]

Only God can explain when y'all claim God created man and woman?

[@nathankamanga8455]

Learnt more about this unfortunate plight in this short interview than I have in my entire life, I was regrettably very ignorant. I wish Mphatso and every other Zambian living out this reality all the very best

[@KarenBulenge]

Very insightful,we were together at school and we played tennis together,she very very reserved I can actually count hw many times I would see her smile,and its different when I meet her now ,wow she was very outspoken...i guese coming out to the world has really helped her to be free and express...am so happy for u friend keep on the good works u r doing,right behind.

[@sholaawe1028]

Should be address as a 👨 Man according to the way it Pleases him.. thanks.. from 🇳🇬 Nigeria.

[@giselec6773]

😂

[@casmirifeanyi7788]

I'd rather refer to him as him and not her, coming from what the message of the video say

[@AXZJ104]

Thank you a very mature and informative interview. Wishing you all the best for your future.

[@brittajacobson2523]

It sure would be nice if we ( people in the USA) could have an intellectual conversation like this.

[@user-ll4nc7db1p]

We do. U just may not have come across good interviews. There r also some very crazy interviews in Africa my friend. Every continent has good and bad.

[@OShaughnessyC]

Fascinating and such an educational interview. Thanks to both!

[@dorothychirwa816]

I love you because you so honest and on point....I wish all can come out like you

[@nelliedejager9553]

Imformative... educative...beautiful and articulate both host and guest...new to channel..keep up the good work ..God bless

[@mojisolaadebowale-marykayb6701]

What a beautiful person. God bless you ❤️❤️❤️

[@nolastehse8385]

Bravery, Honesty, Ethics, Smartness, I’ve learned a lot from this …Well done!

[@lovehopeandgrace]

I am wiser for having listened to this interview. We are not to judge but to learn from others who are experiencing it realtime. I admire his courage and integrity to speak the truth. May his org grow from strength to strength as he assists to educate and protect others like himself. Wonderful interview 👏👏

[@ruthshabangu8038]

Very insightful interview. Thank you very much from both interviewer and interviewee ❤

[@Angel-AB1421]

What a charming and intelligent young man! The interviewer asked insightful questions and was able to learn more on this subject.. Excellent interview

[@nkirukayakini1333]

Excellent interview, very informative. Much Respect to your guest!!!

[@reddiamond6688]

These people are the descendants of the angels who came to earth long ago. They are healthy and normal. It is society who are not informed. We are not all descended from Adam and Eve. Some came from the beings who were created on earth long ago. May this beautiful soul love herself/himself and find peace. Understand you are angelic and beautiful and spiritual.

[@kasapomanjimela7361]

Educating people is the key well done Mphatso this is so informative.

[@lawino1552]

Beautiful interview and very informative.🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@RhodaMfula]

Amazing and intelligent mphaso God bless you and I love the way miss Dora was asking questions I have learnt a lot from Gift Mphaso

[@user-og7ce9ys7j]

You are wonderful product of nature God bless you

[@gladyskachana7320]

Something that occurred natural is pure and should be given equal respect as any other.I ike her/him.From Namibia.Admire the courageous vibe.

[@JM-vj7we]

Intelligent informative compassionate interview.

[@Zoe186]

God Bless you Mphatso.

[@Imani7777]

Very informative! Thanks 🙏🏿

[@cynthiaphiri5558]

I remember you from Kabulonga girls class of 2004,this is so beautiful learnt so much from you.

[@user-qw4nk7qq8s]

Bravo bro/sus.ur so special, God gives u more courage, bigup

[@princesskaulinge]

Thank you for sharing, Mpaso. I'm enlightened and inspired by your bravery.

[@lucianahaingura1128]

Thank you dear for opening up I am a female now age 55 you help me to clear my mind i remember having I friend at age 5 or 6 i can nor recall. Well she was I having both genetal male part in the middle surrounding by female and when I tell people they look at me like a make up story cause at age 7 we moved to the town and I don't know where she is now you see little children always play and show each other their look and we were always wondering why is her female part having male part in the middle I wish you strength from the lord cause no body of us created him or herself continue to open up it will save many lives🙌❤sorry for the broken English

[@mottieinnis7137]

Hmm 🧐.. what an interesting interview.. this is a spectrum.. intersex spectrum, bringing some clarity to myself. Even though I read the book: Middlesex . Thnx for your articulate explanation. Your cause should be supported immensely.

[@mowthorn8570]

I very much appreciate this interview. Gender is a spectrum and so is sexuality. The society is the problem, because it is stuck in the ancient cultural and religious narrow view. The saddest thing is that, that binary view informs every aspect of our lives and such normal people as Mphaso are excluded from fully participation in the society. Gays Lesbians and all the other variations also need to be heard. This would benefit the society and also help our governments make better policies and educate us all. Thankyou so much, keep doing the good work.

[@tolaniaiku8200]

Brilliant interview 😊

[@patriciakalota428]

Beautiful young woman, very brave indeed

[@alsolomantrotman6969]

If is intersex,where you get young woman from??

[@roxcee6710]

Thank you for sharing. God bless him.

[@kennybproductionshouse6213]

Really appreciate your confidence. God bless you

[@charlesmulenga8685]

You are a fighter dear

[@user-mo9fl1zx7c]

Very interesting.Intelligent and confident young man.Lots of people are enlightened.Can you come to Jamaica sir

[@OppoleneChambers]

OH my goodness..!! I had a heated conversation about a week ago on this exact condition..i stand alone on this subject..I wish I could find them so they could educate themselves on this.....and YES I'm JAMAICAN / AMERICAN..❤❤❤❤

[@mercypeal702]

Mphatso is very intelligent 🎉

[@mr.sailii]

Love this. We need more awareness on such issues. It’s just sad that people try to brush off these issues just because they are ignorant of them.

[@bunmiakintola3825]

Mpazo, I actually love ❤️ you. And thank you for bringing us this awareness. You are an amazing person. I wish that you are my friend.

[@NOURINHO-rv5fk]

I am intersex person. I have both female genitalia, and Female genitalia, and I love it because I was born with it. I can be either man, or female it is best of both worlds.

[@tula_tracey]

You typed female twice, however I understood. I'm glad that you have self love, it's important.

[@iraanderson66]

So you use both parts in sex?

[@gloesther1089]

I know that God is a perfect creator and there is no confusion jn who he should have created...What I know spiritually is that the devil can attack a child while in the womb and cause deformities in children. However, because we need to have a reason to give people why then we believe God makes such mistakes. I pray for you and many others struggling with their identities that you may all receive the healing and restorative power of God.

[@joeewell4846]

In Genesis 5:2 the term "THEM" is 3rd person, masculine, singular. This refers to both male and female in a single body, grammatically speaking of course. "Hermaphrodites", as we have been known until the mid-1990's, since then known simply by the term "intersex", we are BINARY, within the xx and xy but just "somewhere in the middle". So intersex is not a mistake but the original manner of mankind's creation.

[@sophiakimaro5174]

I can't lie but I love these people. I never meet them in my life but I wish to meet them.

[@RichMedia1010]

Proper podcast 👌

[@chimariich3278]

Feel so bad for this beautiful soul. Why does this happen to people. You're loved!

[@rehemankisi3551]

My question too. I know there are so many extracting Thru out Africa n never dealing with the toxicity they leave so communities around n near their sites

[@thobekiletwala9824]

Thank you for this interview. I actually think that they should cover the whole Africa

[@chawanangwamkandawire5850]

His looks and voice are very much feminine, but I guess it's the male part that controls his sexuality.

[@marthamungure1777]

I think he looks both male and female. Voice in between, body looks both

[@memorybanda3775]

Just wonderful

[@essthumelo4452]

Very well spoken.. I'm glad he could keep his peace coz zambians are very judgmental when it comes to issues they don't fully understand..keep advocating for the best❤

[@sarahsakalamalama2246]

Bn left in awe.must say I ve learnt a lot

[@daphneywallock2358]

THANKS FOR EXPLAINING SIR. IT CAN'T HAVE BEEN EASY FOR YOU WHEN YOU WERE YOUNGER. GOD BLESS & KEEP YOU HEALTHY"*, HAPPY "*. NUFF LOVE BROTHER ❤

[@msampamvula6892]

Dora is a great interviewer ❤. Very educative and emotional interview.

[@MrShmaxx]

Thank You.

[@venekapussewela3201]

very educated questions and very educated answers.

[@davieskabwe5729]

Hi Mpatso, Kindly share with us on the analysis results with regards to your Pelvis....... Your pelvis is the part of your body that contains your uterus and bladder. The female pelvis is wider than the male pelvis, as it’s designed for pregnancy and childbirth. What is your opinion on hormonal balancing and supported surgery by the government?........

[@jeniphersemagongo8328]

Amen wonderful

[@ronnetymasilo5137]

My brother you are blessed ❤❤❤❤❤

[@janetphiri8731]

I admire your courage and your blondness proud of you

[@mumbichisanga8273]

Mphatso is so brave....i had a child with same condition..sadly she died @ the age of 12...

[@maria_mutondioriginal5]

May God give you the desire of your heart amen

[@kennybproductionshouse6213]

I think the best is to establish campaign, crusade and awareness for government and for government to come to their aid of these special people especially from tender age to correct the imbalances medically and help them to carry out surgery to align with a particular gender, depending on which hormones are higher in each individual body.

[@mosesmuriithi3532]

Mama Dora, please let him express the views

[@ntombehlubinelani8781]

You are very clear and concise to be honest. Where and when can I hear from you to help someone in S.Africa please. You tick all the boxes.God bless you . Where can I contact you to help this young boy in S.A.

[@bonnysimelane5703]

Hello, I am intersex and live in Johannesburg and where are you based?

[@ntombehlubinelani8781]

Very proud of you

[@attractionp.1185]

Very enlightening and knowing the truth. If it’s created by a creator and then we get, to respect all creation of creator!!!!

[@user-wu9xr4xs8x]

I liked the guy he is so composed

[@kabelotebohotote4914]

❤I like you the way you are because everyone in the universe was God's plan.SOUTH AFRICA🎉🎉🎉

[@wheretheresnochef1490]

Learning...

[@Ekundayo-ce5el]

Amazing Dr. Dora you are the best Interviewer of all times. Those so-called Nigerian journalists should come and learn under your feet. No offence to Nigerians because I'm a Nigerian myself.

[@Doreen_Maclean1.]

Very informative