Boruto: The Consequence of Being a Sequel

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@AtomicOwl
@AtomicOwl 8 ай бұрын
I like the boruto manga, its easy for me to separate what naruto was and what boruto is.
@KingOfSpeed907
@KingOfSpeed907 8 ай бұрын
Facts
@rennenb
@rennenb 8 ай бұрын
Ong
@benjaminschneider9147
@benjaminschneider9147 8 ай бұрын
W Take
@ericknunez8069
@ericknunez8069 8 ай бұрын
I am a Boruto hater, i will not separate what Naruto was and what Boruto is
@patricktorres1292
@patricktorres1292 8 ай бұрын
@@ericknunez8069 🙄
@adamtwarowski1053
@adamtwarowski1053 8 ай бұрын
As a Boruto enjoyer, I think the biggest thing that Boruto suffered from is definitely his initial perception of hating Naruto. Its not helped that our introduction to him was the Boruto movie where he goes through that exact arc where he comes to understand Naruto more. Except then that exact same movie is adapted into the monthly manga, and furthermore that arc being adapted in the anime is finished up 65 episodes into the show. Borutos initial reputation suffered because so much of what the casual audience was shown was the Boruto who hated Naruto and didnt understand what it meant to be a ninja. I think hes so much better after that character arc
@Mrbookworm-k4v
@Mrbookworm-k4v 2 ай бұрын
I agree
@chasetanner4822
@chasetanner4822 2 ай бұрын
So what is saying is boruto is just a repeat of the sakura situation but on a lesser scale. Sakura was introduced by hating naruto and to this day, no matter how much she has changed since the beginning, some people STILL hate sakura because of what she did in the beginning of naruto.
@solidspider6509
@solidspider6509 2 ай бұрын
@@chasetanner4822 Essentially yes. But most people don’t even read boruto and just blindly hate it
@RobertVistal-jp2cw
@RobertVistal-jp2cw 21 күн бұрын
You need to show and give a reason for the audience to like the character at first I production. If it doesn't do that, the audience will HATE that character, it would NEED a really really good build up and payoff to convince the audience to LIKE that character. For example, Sakura, I HATED her, but throughout the original Naruto it made me like Sakura.
@chasetanner4822
@chasetanner4822 21 күн бұрын
@@RobertVistal-jp2cw Yeah the way he handled sakura was the one thing kishimoto regrets the most. He hated that he made sakura so useless in part 1 of naruto and the anime made her look even worse. He tried to fix her in shippuden, keyword TRIED. But by that point, her reputation was so ruined he couldn't fix it. so he had to shift the writing from naruto×sakura to naruto×hinata so his fans wouldn't hate the ending of the story where naruto gets married and becomes hokage. Kishimoto came to regret making sakura comes from a family of ordinary civilians. If your story puts so much detail and effort on a characters family and what powers they get from being in said family, then Having one of your MAIN CHARACTERS come from a ordinary family that offers nothing in terms of powers was a bad idea in hindsight. Only the actual main character could pull a situation like that off and it was proven true by naruto in part one. Part one naruto was a orphan who not only not knew anything about his parents. But also at that point in the story, he didn't have any unique abilities from his family.
@hanae4512
@hanae4512 4 ай бұрын
As someone who has genuinely given a Boruto a chance (I didn't read the manga but I watched like 100 or so episodes of the anime) after picking it up cus the hook at the beginning was interesting as hell, you really articulated this very well. In fact, I think you did mention all the things and reasonings of my apprehension towards Boruto. When I was talking with my fellow friends who did not pick up Boruto either, I said that I didn't like it because of these reasons: - It did not feel very 'ninja' anymore. I mean the end of the Naruto was also very un ninja-ish with Kaguya, but Boruto even more so. -I could not find myself to like Boruto as a character, I personally do not think I would pick up a manga with that kind of mc. -It feels like everything was zippy zappy.... like fast? They learn everything fast. Especially with the rasengan and stuff? They learn and master things in like 3-5 days max. Also, it lowkey feels like Boruto is handed everything in a silver platter? Like whoop now I got this cool jutsu. -The universe feels entirely different, the technology aside, it has to be the power scaling? OG characters having a hard time with the villains made me feel like they got rusty from the peace or smth. And there's also dinosaurs and shit ToT -The side characters feel shallow (?) when they be like children of the main cast yk? Idk, they don't really feel compelling? Also I find it very weird that every rookie 9 or konoha 11 member has kids of all the same age?? like they literally went "Hey let's do it together" in an orgy or smth cus whaaat The fight scenes are really cool, and I like seeing Boruto make his own rendition to the rasengan albeit him learning it in 4 days, and the karma seal is kinda cool tho it do be kinda lookin like the byakugou. And what the hell is the jougan, I thought the top 3 doujutsu was the rinnegan, sharingan and the byakugan? And how did Boruto inherit it outta nowhere when it is not related to the byakugan in anyway? Is bro an illegitimate child lmao. Why do they be spawning new types of doujutsu so often. Ik my reasons do be childish but whenever I pick up Boruto, I get a whiplash cus wat da hell is goin awn. And they killed my boy Kurama off, separated him from Naruto, I can not accept that T.T Anywho, I grew up with Naruto so I'm biased but also, I didn't really like Naruto: the last (which was the precursor to boruto) and I also dont like the main canon ships but thats cus Kishimoto can't write women and romance for the life of him. Shikatema is fine though. Also what's good and bad is objective, I can't tell if Boruto is bad just that it is not for me and will probably stay the same. I think that Boruto shouldn't have been introduced as Naruto next generation but just Boruto on its own, cus I dragged my impression of the Naruto verse with me to Boruto and it is just entirely different with all the extraterrestrialism. Sorry I yapped too much lols.
@kazeguy8869
@kazeguy8869 8 ай бұрын
No matter what Boruto does it will be compared to Naruto in one way or another. And honestly nothing will ever give us the same feeling Naruto did thus Boruto will never be what the people want. So we might as well enjoy/hate Boruto on its own merits/demerits rather than compare it to Naruto :)
@awsomekick99
@awsomekick99 8 ай бұрын
If that's how u wanna view it that's fine But me personally boruto gave me new feelings that I felt like in Naruto it wasn't as touched or wasn't in Naruto in the first place For example brotherhood of the 2 protagonist of the show Yes Naruto & sasuke had their dynamics and similarities which made them the characters who we all know. but in all honestly besides from few scenes they was always like oil & water and yes ik this most solely of the brother fight throughout the reincarnation cycle of Indra & ashura. However, boruto & kawaki on the other hand i felt that brotherhood connect and drew closer to the both of them as the story went along them actually living together and going through the same stuff with karma and both havin the same ending goals to push one another always felt way more natural And now with their conflict in TBV it's just hit more at home much more then how it was with Naruto & sasuke
@oxy2986
@oxy2986 8 ай бұрын
I just watched boruto for naruto . Boruto always give me that" pain arc" vibes where everything seems illusion. And truly know i watch boruto only for boruto . Boruto sound like some cyberpunk city mix to very ancient city the feeling is entirely new to me i never feel something like this , boruto seems japenese folk tail in cosmic and neon world . Mystic , mythical and I very fan of things like this . Literally boruto feel like rain village. I can't express this thing .
@BlurBlizzard
@BlurBlizzard 8 ай бұрын
The minato one shot felt like a perfect prequel imo though
@nahte123456
@nahte123456 8 ай бұрын
Can I just say I hate that sentiment? It's a sequel, it literally references Naruto in the title, that is what it's the "next generation" of. Why on EARTH would you judge it on it's own when it is a sequel?
@zacharyfernandes4690
@zacharyfernandes4690 7 ай бұрын
@@awsomekick99 exactly and also the concept of boruto looking for validation from his father which is relatable to some , also the fact on taking the easy way and learning that the tough route aka being a shinobi or not using the karma is something that you don’t really see and shows his pursuit to being a full fledged shinobi
@Mikeyuubi
@Mikeyuubi 8 ай бұрын
You hit the nail on the head with this video man. A series that's mixed with fair criticisms along with unjustied hate can create a murky picture that becomes hard to comprehend what this series does good and what it does bad. You did a great job breaking down the core talking points of the heavy baggage Boruto has pretty much always carried since it started. Great video as always.
@sumnahlennon5449
@sumnahlennon5449 8 ай бұрын
It doesnt get unfair criticisms. The average person just looks at a show and decides if they enjoy it or not. Maybe the criticisms were not properly worded since not everyone can do that. But most people that watched the series did not like it. Whether or not they properly worded their criticisms
@Mikeyuubi
@Mikeyuubi 7 ай бұрын
@@sumnahlennon5449 You're part of the problem 👍
@majestvic
@majestvic 7 ай бұрын
@@sumnahlennon5449people jugded the anime by the goblin naruto memes alone. this is unfair criticism 😂
@diodelvino3048
@diodelvino3048 5 ай бұрын
@@Mikeyuubi riiight ,he gives his fair criticism and all you can say is hes part of the problem. In reality the hates not unjustified just people like you cant take criticisms on the things they like. I'll just boil it down to its just not good and poorly executed since any opinion is just gonna be automatically "part of the problem" to you.
@Mrbookworm-k4v
@Mrbookworm-k4v 2 ай бұрын
@@sumnahlennon5449I know someone who like boruto more than Naruto it’s just subjective
@maxine3161
@maxine3161 8 ай бұрын
I remember absolutely hating boruto back when it was newer a bit after the road to boruto expansion was released for storm 4, but I gave it another chance right before it hit hiatus and I began to absolutely adore it's themes and how it isn't just Naruto again. And with the new TBV releases he has changed enough to where he feels more adult. The manga is just so good by that point Plus being just barely too young to keep up with Naruto it gives me something I can keep up with in a series that got me into anime as a whole
@nicholasrolison926
@nicholasrolison926 8 ай бұрын
Nice, glad you've been enjoying it.
@ZeroX7649
@ZeroX7649 8 ай бұрын
I liked Boruto until TBV...TBV is very 2edgy3me
@maxine3161
@maxine3161 8 ай бұрын
@@ZeroX7649 I just appreciate he's not Naruto again, love my golden boys but a golden boy emulating Sasuke is pretty fun in its own right
@adityasharma0376
@adityasharma0376 8 ай бұрын
​@@ZeroX7649nah, he is not edgy he is just more calm and strategic.
@ZeroX7649
@ZeroX7649 8 ай бұрын
@@maxine3161 Fair enough. He is very different from Sasuke and Naruto both.
@notthefbi7015
@notthefbi7015 7 ай бұрын
My stand on Boruto remains generally the same since it came out. Boruto shouldn't be a continuation of the world of Naruto, it should be its own thing. It would make Boruto as a story work way better and doesn't drag Naruto down in hindsight.
@ThePlatinumVault
@ThePlatinumVault 8 ай бұрын
Man is just making stuff up. It just has bad writing and breaks The world it Is literally set in. Whether you like OG Naruto or not, It's Obvious Fights are Boring and characters are too. Its nothing to do with Naruto Being compared to It, or anything like that. Trying to say that People who dont like it are just Haters, or stubborn, is Completely Ignorant. And it shows how you are just Justifying it because you like it. I personally Dont want it to be like naruto and im a naruto fan, your Reasons for Why people dont like it are just Twitter talk Pieces.
@tsukune2910
@tsukune2910 8 ай бұрын
I feel the problem is that all these “fair criticisms” are consistently thrown in the fans faces. They cannot just enjoy the manga without a ton of people coming in with “fair criticism” that don’t even have anything to do with the chapter at hand. Every series has fair criticisms they can be discussed but you don’t see a huge part of the anime community coming to new chapter releases to consistently point them out. I think people just need to relax and get of the series back honestly.
@kevintanza6968
@kevintanza6968 8 ай бұрын
Maybe the story just isn't that good? Jujutsu Kaisen got praised to high heavens and recent months in the manga have made the series receive a lot of criticism because of how repetitive it has become. Truth of the matter is that people don't want the stories they like being criticized. However, that doesn't make the stories perfect.
@tsukune2910
@tsukune2910 8 ай бұрын
@@kevintanza6968 that’s not the point of my comment. If you’re just constantly commenting to only point out whatever negatives there might be you litteraly adding nothing to the convo. Constructive criticism is different than what’s happening. Imagine if every time dragon ball fans talked about super saiyan and how cool it is there is a whole wave of people throwing in random criticisms that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Idek why you’re acting like most of these “criticisms” aren’t just “boruto sucks” comments lol. If you do not personally like the series why would you keep torturing yourself and others who are trying to enjoy a piece of media. If you don’t even like show why come to the comments to give “criticisms” of something you’re not even going to read. It’s litteraly not adding anything new to the convo especially if the criticism are from old chapters lol. People in your jjk example ALSO talk about what they like about the series and chapter
@pancakes7483
@pancakes7483 7 ай бұрын
In other words, hop off the BBC and let people enjoy the series
@557deadpool
@557deadpool 7 ай бұрын
​@@tsukune2910 because you all want to bring down every single other series to make Boruto look better. It's been happening since 2017 and it happens to this day.
@zeroxenoverse9251
@zeroxenoverse9251 5 ай бұрын
​@@557deadpoolMaybe that's what happened when you fuck with Boruto fans perhaps?
@morrisagene2004
@morrisagene2004 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much, I've decided to give Boruto a chance. Just let me see whether I'm to like it or not as maybe an extension/separate story from Naruto, Thank you so much for this talk i appreciate it 👍🏾
@nobody5066
@nobody5066 8 ай бұрын
It's funny how this video relates to me. 2016 to 2021 I hated anything that had to do with Boruto, I was thee biggest hater and that was mostly because of how much I loved Naruto. Later during 2021, I don't know why, I just started reading the manga in order to make fun of it. Then as I was reading, I accidentally got hooked. Reading it felt like I was reading something entirely different, I realized I stopped comparing it to naruto, and yes it doesn't have the best art or character development, but I will say. I've found myself to be a Boruto fan till this day, it was only solidified after watching cannon anime episodes and sarada is my favorite character, Atleast in the anime.
@MadaraUchiha-zt5uj
@MadaraUchiha-zt5uj 8 ай бұрын
Same, man. I stopped hating on it on 2020 just decided one day what's the point on hating on it and keep saying the same shit over and over. boruto is a genjutsu blablabla
@Mrbookworm-k4v
@Mrbookworm-k4v 2 ай бұрын
@@nobody5066 I was a fan and an hater tbh
@somepenguin508
@somepenguin508 8 ай бұрын
Finally, a take that's somewhat neutral instead of going either being called a hater or saying Boruto fans can't take criticism... I think the series could definitely be better or even written better, and I can see some of the narratives Boruto as a story tries to go for such as the use of technology and the things people do out of love compared to Naruto's hate, I just wish they were executed better and it doesn't help that Boruto picks up what's left of Shippuden's trash such as the broken power system and runs with it, creating even more problems. But holy crap discussing this series is unnecessarily difficult. It's almost as bad as talking about an anime like Black Clover and Fairytail. Everyone just spouts opinion like it's fact, ignoring that they're acting more like an elitist and not a critic just because they love hearing themselves talk...
@zeroxenoverse9251
@zeroxenoverse9251 7 ай бұрын
Bleach too(Seriously, the only reason the hate dialed down a bit is because of anime trending. No wonder Bleach fans are gatekeeping). All 3 of the shows happened to fall under shows being ruined by nitpicking and dumb people.
@seniorsterling1064
@seniorsterling1064 7 ай бұрын
I'll be honest I hate boruto on the sheer principle that it ignores basic plot points tht kishi dropped, thts honestly my biggest gripe with it, the world wouldn't suddenly get fixed with naruto being hokage he would have to work and negotiate with the daimyos and other Shinobi factions tht don't agree with him, or outright surprises them. Boruto as a series offers very little compared to narutos plethora of themes subplots and characters. Yet it wants to act like it's better than all of tht, I just can't get behind a series that thinks it's better than the original when it clearly isn't, though tht is my opinion.
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 6 ай бұрын
I hate the series because exactly of the power system and otsutsukis, a clan nobody even wanted to explore yet alone create more antagonists, in at all. Naruto's list of antagonists and villains weren't just the uchiha. They were other people who lived lives and had their own story, motivations, desires, and dreams. For as much as I despise Danzo, he is an amazing character who reflects the dark era of the past. He is someone no matter how much you resented, did what he believed in and died for it. That's why Boruto to me isn't good. It became a series about a boy who wanted to become hokage, who realized that the entire world revolved around shinobi, war, conflicts, ideology clashes, revenge and honor, became nothing more than a DBZ wankfest for its blind fanbase who will lap anything up because it's attached to Naruto.
@biffitup2525
@biffitup2525 8 ай бұрын
I'm enjoying Boruto. I won't say it is objectively GOOD, but I am enjoying it. The manga anyway. The anime I'm still pretty early into
@OGGuuse
@OGGuuse 8 ай бұрын
What if miwa reached her full potential for April first boutta hit different
@caratrevoso3347
@caratrevoso3347 7 ай бұрын
Madara let black zetsu kill him because he saw the future and knew that Boruto's existence was gonna prove him right that putting everyone in a genjutsu was the better plan
@JamesGarcia-hw1rl
@JamesGarcia-hw1rl 8 ай бұрын
Naruto’s and boruto’s relationship is a spitting image of kishimoto and his son and that’s why he was written like that
@treybrown9627
@treybrown9627 8 ай бұрын
Very nuanced outlook of Boruto! I’d like to see a similar style video on Akane Banashi or Blue Box (while not battle Shonen per se, they do a lot of the same things as most battle Shonen).
@LordAshura
@LordAshura 2 ай бұрын
The biggest crime that Boruto commits is treating the Naruto series characters like garbage and using them as punching bags for the newer cast. Naruto and Sasuke are relegated as jokes and the remaining original casts are practically rendered irrelevant. It was a bait and switch to get Naruto fan to follow the series only for them to be disrespected. So Boruto as a series will continue to be hated and will end up having the same legacy as Dragonball GT.
@Mrbookworm-k4v
@Mrbookworm-k4v 2 ай бұрын
I disagree Dragon ball gt was loved and still is loved today Gt didn’t get hate like boruto did
@ExoticZah
@ExoticZah 7 ай бұрын
As a Naruto fan you can’t ignore how Boruto broke the lore. Hashirama was the God of Shinobi , Peak Ninja. Darui and characters like Kakashi scale above him and Madara… the scaling in Boruto destroys Naruto as a story.
@tomatoorphan6166
@tomatoorphan6166 7 ай бұрын
Sigh.. the ninjutsu system is just broken and uninteresting at this point.
@majestvic
@majestvic 7 ай бұрын
Naruto did it already. In naruto classic hiruzen was supposed to be the god of shinobi but kishi later on retconned it for the sake of the ashura and indra storyline. Also kakashi struggling against zabuza but later on being a warhouse in the war arc was wild
@matthewzaslavets8423
@matthewzaslavets8423 7 ай бұрын
Yes, to be fair, a big part of why Boruto is so unlikable is the fact that Naruto's ending is unlikable. As much hype as it generated by upscaling itself further and further, it messed up it's own story and world to the point where Boruto would be very unlikely to be able to scale back reasonably. On the other hand Boruto is only worse for not even trying to scale back and constantly raising the stakes further like it's the manga-long fourth shinobi war arc
@Mrbookworm-k4v
@Mrbookworm-k4v 2 ай бұрын
@@majestvicyeah kaguya still is the worst final villain imo
@devilman-g2f
@devilman-g2f 8 ай бұрын
I've just finished reading 87th ch of boruto & boy the story from where the anime ended is so good. The 'twist' wasn't something I saw coming. The lore of the entire series itself is big enuff to fully indulge. Altho I get ur point, it'll always be compared to naruto, a competition it can't win as of now.
@TheLastShinobi5
@TheLastShinobi5 7 ай бұрын
Fr,I think the mystery of who Jura is and Himawari supposedly having some strong power is interesting,and how everyone is getting development like Eida possibly getting over Kawaki and Mitsuki having a purpose without having a sun
@adityasharma0376
@adityasharma0376 8 ай бұрын
7:34 ikemoto is not the writer he is the illustrator who draws the manga 😅😅😅 it's kodachi who was the previous writer before kishimoto took over.
@TheYoRF0
@TheYoRF0 8 ай бұрын
These creators are literally dump, don't even no any shit and start comparing
@TheLastShinobi5
@TheLastShinobi5 7 ай бұрын
Kishimoto took over on chapter 52
@adhammater4237
@adhammater4237 8 ай бұрын
Two blue vortex is really good, it solved alot of the issues that the first part had
@nicholasrolison926
@nicholasrolison926 8 ай бұрын
Very good, were there any arcs from the original that you still enjoyed?
@adhammater4237
@adhammater4237 8 ай бұрын
@@nicholasrolison926 Naruto and sasuke vs ishiki and momoshiki were really good, it got a little stale after naruto lost kurama but the last 10 chapters picked up the pace. Do u read two blue vortex??
@nicholasrolison926
@nicholasrolison926 8 ай бұрын
@@adhammater4237 Gotcha, I actually really loved the Ao arc, and even the Mujina Bandits. TBV has been solid so far, love the setup, the Shinju have been quirky but threatening, and really liking where they're taking MItsuki & Hima's characters atm.
@adhammater4237
@adhammater4237 8 ай бұрын
@@nicholasrolison926 yeah, i am really excited to see what sort of power up hima will get and alsoo sarada's MS ability and a fight between kawaki and boruto would be awesome
@unioneye1087
@unioneye1087 8 ай бұрын
How so? (I like boruto btw)
@saltlord4488
@saltlord4488 8 ай бұрын
Good video, as always. I would like to see a Code Geass video be made in this type of video style.
@hassanhassan-os5oq
@hassanhassan-os5oq 8 ай бұрын
I think Boruto is the epitome of good ish writing can't fix everything
@kevintanza6968
@kevintanza6968 8 ай бұрын
Good video and really balanced take. I recently had to start keeping up with Boruto because of work reasons, and, as a 29 year old who grew up with Naruto, I was never interested in the sequel. I'd admit that I was one of those guys who mocked the series a few years ago for some stuff I saw online, but now I try to be more respectful with series I don't like since I also do creative writing. But I think I can offer some insights as to why this series is so divisive. - The ending of Naruto. No matter where you stand on this, the ending of the original series was viewed as bad, and most people just wanted to move on afterward. As you mentioned, there was no need for a sequel. Therefore, Boruto feels forced and manufactured rather than a creative endeavor to tell a new story. Yes, most manga stories are commercial art because they want them to be commercially viable and therefore are products, but artistic intent and wanting to make a profit are not mutually exclusive. - Attachment to the older cast. Most people watching Boruto are watching it because of the original cast and the original series. I have never seen someone following this series who hasn't seen the original. Therefore, the attachment with the new cast isn't the same because you want to see Naruto, Sasuke, etc. - Some new characters are too similar to their parents. Boruto is the best example since he originally looked like a carbon copy of his father. It's difficult to convey that this series is writing its own story with most of the main cast are the sons and daughters of the previous main cast. I feel that Sarada, despite some poor clothing decisions, has a good design because she doesn't look entirely like Sasuke or Sakura but rather her own person with some of their details. But is hard to convey this is fresh and new when they look like copies. - The anime. I only know this by second-hand knowledge but the anime has a lot of filler. And most people in the anime community go for the show first. Most who read the manga are probably the hardcore fans who want to keep up. For example, I started with the One Piece anime and then went to the manga because I enjoyed the series. Therefore, the anime scared a lot of people away. - The Otsutsuki. A lot of people didn't like Kaguya, and while developing that concept made sense, the idea of aliens in the Naruto world never worked. Fine, it's not Boruto's fault but the sequel was affected by that decision. - Power scaling. Some characters in the series are way stronger than someone like Madara, Itachi, Obito, Pain, and some other characters people love. A lot of people may not care, but imagine being someone who doesn't like the series already and find out that a random Boruto villain is now stronger than Madara. It will rub people the wrong way. - The art, as you mentioned. Not the worst criticism and people can overcome that, but it feels bland. Rather than having a defined style or a lot of high quality, it just feels bland, which is even worse than being bad. - The side cast. Naruto had the same issue as the story progressed but the characters looked interesting and had interesting premise. No offense to fans of the series, but Mitsuki, Sarada, Eida, and Kawaki are not people I care about. I wanted to know more about Neji, Rock Lee, Gaara, etc. - Naruto and Sasuke as deadbeat fathers. You already mentioned Naruto, so I'm not going to elaborate on that. But I add Sasuke because he was close to his family and did everything in the original series because he lost them. The fact he didn't spend time with his own daughter for so long rubbed people the wrong way. Especially why Sasuke is a divisive character on his own, even in the original series. - No strong antagonists. I don't like using the term "aura" but there is no villain that is really imposing and has that aura that early Orochimaru, Gaara, Madara, Pain, or even Itachi had. Hell, even Zabuza looked imposing and wasn't that strong, in hindsight. I'd even wager that the series does benefit to some degree from being Naruto's sequel in terms of exposure, even if said exposure is not always positive. Imagine if Boruto was an original series and not a sequel. I don't think the writing and art could stand on its own. I'm saying this from a place of respect too.
@Dave102693
@Dave102693 5 ай бұрын
1000%
@Lagatortooth
@Lagatortooth 2 ай бұрын
It’s pretty simple. People are unwilling to judge Boruto by itself and stop comparing it to Naruto. I’m currently watching Boruto and am 90 episodes in and so far I enjoy it. The main point is just to watch it before judging.
@crunchy303
@crunchy303 8 ай бұрын
This was a very good analysis 👍
@NinthShinigami
@NinthShinigami 8 ай бұрын
I’ve always been half and half with the series, but given the last handful of chapters, I think the series, at least with its manga, is sufficiently passable/solid. I think it needs way better pacing, more side character work, better antagonists and villains, and I could see myself liking it a lot more… I don’t think it’ll ever surpass Naruto but it’s not like it *needs* to…
@Dhugg3001
@Dhugg3001 8 ай бұрын
That’s what they’re currently doing with the timeskip
@NinthShinigami
@NinthShinigami 8 ай бұрын
@@Dhugg3001 we’re seeing the setup for it, so long as they continue and the story doesn’t lose its momentum I’ll come to like it more. Even then, it’s still just solid far as I go.
@申月営無営月無営有申
@申月営無営月無営有申 8 ай бұрын
@@NinthShinigami Hope you catch up to the series fam
@NinthShinigami
@NinthShinigami 8 ай бұрын
@@申月営無営月無営有申 I’m caught up fam. I just still don’t see the massive amount of praise for the series. Idk maybe im too stupid or somethn lmao
@sonicwithglasses131
@sonicwithglasses131 8 ай бұрын
People who read monthly mangas do not care about side characters that much compared to people who read weekely
@jackpilotartz
@jackpilotartz 8 ай бұрын
Imo i think the anime might be better if they insert that scene in the manga when he said he was a brat and take it in a different way to make people not feel so intense on him
@babadoudidadouda
@babadoudidadouda 8 ай бұрын
As someone who only watched a few episodes of the anime (that were kinda "okay", IMO, but didn't really leave me craving for more) and who is always stumbling upon YT shorts talking about some crazy power (up) one of Boruto's characters has, I'd love to know more about the characters main goals and what they do to achieve those goals, about their relationships to one another; about the internal and external obstacles they have to overcome, about what fuels their growth (or their downfall). Anything about what makes them compelling characters outside of their powers or their fighting abilities. Or even anything about the deeper themes of the story. For instance in Naruto, his main goal in the first half was to be accepted, to be seen as more than the fox demon Jinchuuriki because he grew up ostracised, and for that, he thought he needed to become the Hokage. Then, in the second half, while he still wanted to be Hokage, he also wanted to bring peace to the world, to save the world from hatred (and from the hurt he was deeply familiar with due to his past), and for that, he needed to start by saving Sasuke, his friend, from his own hatred. The overarching themes of the manga and the anime, to me, were mainly (I might have forgotten one or two) about the importance of human connections, the curse of hatred and violence, and how to put an end to the cycle of vengeance, it also was about healing from trauma and learning to love oneself. And, yes, it was a bit about hard work and perseverance too. I'm not saying there's not all that (character and story depth) too in Boruto, just that I haven't read or heard anything about it and that, as someone who'd like to be more motivated to read and/or to watch Boruto in full one day, I'd love to hear from fans of the show about what makes you care about the characters and the story.
@nerdcorner2680
@nerdcorner2680 8 ай бұрын
I wrote off Boruto and never watched it for all the reasons you’ve said, but over the years everything I’ve heard from it sounds really good. I love the idea of Naruto being a bad dad, he is giving Boruto a better childhood than he had, but not perfect because he doesn’t know how to. I love Boruto being a brat, he doesn’t know how bad things could be, but it’s also a different world now. In a peaceful world Boruto does have it pretty bad. It’s nice to see the world progress this much. I’ve getting closer and closer to actually giving it a try
@SuzukiCabs
@SuzukiCabs 8 ай бұрын
Boruto is currently experiencing the loneliness naruto felt in his journey. At the start of boruto, boruto asked sasuke what naruto's weakness is, but sasuke told him to find out who he was in the past. And all this came full circle because boruto is on his naruto journey rn.
@nerdcorner2680
@nerdcorner2680 8 ай бұрын
@@SuzukiCabs that sounds interesting. I heard Boruto and Sasuke get to have a really cool dynamic
@SuzukiCabs
@SuzukiCabs 8 ай бұрын
@nerdcorner2680 because kishimoto said he wanted them to be like piccolo and Gohan.
@coolsquid22
@coolsquid22 6 ай бұрын
As someone who sits in the middle of this debate, one of main reason i ignored boruto is that i thought that the boruto movie didnt need to be expanded on, that along with my dislike of narutos last war arc and final ending(orochimaru should have been executed) made me decide to ignore it outside of the occasional anime fight scene or if gaara ever got a spotlight
@dannysdungareedanceoff8481
@dannysdungareedanceoff8481 8 ай бұрын
I was upset about the characterization while watching it but when I read the manga I realized it was becayse I was watching it. The anime extended that part of their relationship so much. It's much more understandable in the manga I never came into the series ready to judge it like most seemed to and I enjoyed it
@i.q.1979
@i.q.1979 8 ай бұрын
There's one reason you forgot to add: Logic.
@alexbamier2194
@alexbamier2194 7 ай бұрын
it's 2024 and peoples still view Boruto as his 2017 self.
@557deadpool
@557deadpool 7 ай бұрын
No the show still sucks
@MeenakshiSingh-ts3dc
@MeenakshiSingh-ts3dc 7 ай бұрын
@@557deadpool Have read the manga?
@Evorexwolf
@Evorexwolf 7 ай бұрын
@@MeenakshiSingh-ts3dc the manga itself is the issue. There are multiple plot points that could of been character arcs, to build the character towards. Sarada and her Ms awakening is a big example, if we truely want to say she awakens her Ms from love, it should be history built between Boruto and Sarada like with Sakura and Naruto (also still a fumble). Sarada does not earn her Ms power up like Sasuke did with his. It literally has no correlations or relevence towards the time skip or reason to even awaken. What is the purpose of the Ms now, after the time skip it still has no relevence.
@cww2490
@cww2490 8 ай бұрын
Besides the art my problem with the sequel is how forced the bad father plot was done as it makes no sense in story. Naruto has mastered shadow clones and has near infinite Chakra. He should easily be able to handle being Hokage and its admin work, be a present father, and even go on missions all at once. A clone being dispelled on his daughter's birthday and dropping the cake and everything he hasn't been present for has no grounds to even be a thing. The clones can be used for work plain and simple. Does no one remember how he learned wind style and the new rasengan? Dude summoned thousands of clones to learn a skill that should take decades in just a few days. Naruto should be the most efficient Hokage in history even if he was still as slow as he was when he was 12. And from the war we learned that his clones can gather Chakra on their own to maintain themselves, including the Sage natural energy. Clones left at home have no business being undone by exhaustion. It's all super forced and unnatural. It makes the new protagonist and the old one look bad as they deal with issues the fans have to turn a blind eye to the lore and common sense to accept. And most importantly it set up the sequel very poorly from the jump.
@Red54321
@Red54321 8 ай бұрын
Very true, the clone popping during her birthday didn't Make sense at all, it wasn't attacked, and you can't tell me he ran out of chakra And speaking about the art, it's a monthly manga and has bad art in comparison to most weekly manga😭
@numberhunter62
@numberhunter62 8 ай бұрын
What was very clearly established and known about Naruto is that he has shit Yin Chakra, the mental side of chakra. Just like how people in real life can get exhausted just from sitting in front of a desk for a few hours. Get Naruto to box Madara, Sasuke and Kaguya for over a day and he's good to go with energy left in the tank, get him to do a desk job for a few hours and he's mentally drained to the extreme. Naruto also considers the Hokage Office Sacred Grounds and would never condone having a clone do his work there for him, plus he compares himself to the previous Hokage who could manage such a task without Shadow Clones. And let's not forget that Shadow Clones don't have to do what the original says.
@1kbmahan
@1kbmahan 8 ай бұрын
It’s out of character for him to be an absent dad to be prioritizing hokage over being a father. Cause in the entire series of Naruto he wanted parents it’s just crazy he would do that to his own kids.
@nicholasrolison926
@nicholasrolison926 8 ай бұрын
@@1kbmahan Yes but, as it's mentioned in Boruto several times, he also views _the entire village_ as his family. This is why characters like Sarada & Mitsuki are so glued to him, because despite not being blood related, he gave Mitsuki a shot & Sarada support when her father was absent. Also, since Naruto has never had familial bonds, him not _knowing the obligations organically_ makes complete sense.
@nicholasrolison926
@nicholasrolison926 8 ай бұрын
Naruto was about ready to flee in terror after being told by Kakashi to buckle down & study *after fighting a war against zombies & deities* ; the man is now chained to his desk 24/7 dealing with bureaucracy & it exhausts him. How is this not consistent with the parent story? Him having to acknowledge his limits makes him more relatable.
@bulkytheyoshi
@bulkytheyoshi 8 ай бұрын
I used to hate Boruto because of the first two reasons you gave honestly. It wasn't until the Momoshiki fought were I started to turn around on it, then Two Blue Vortex actually got me to look at Boruto in it's own lens (and months of watching videos on it to get past my own biases)
@TortillaBill
@TortillaBill 7 ай бұрын
I'm surprised he didn't bring up the power scaling
@lowesgameing2003
@lowesgameing2003 7 ай бұрын
This is the first video I've found that actually explains why people hate Boruto rather than just hating it because of the bandwagon
@madebymali6758
@madebymali6758 8 ай бұрын
I grew up with Naruto. Easily my favorite manga/anime of all time just for the sheer impact it had on me throughout my life. With that said, I really like boruto (the manga. The anime is mid) and it’s very easy for me to enjoy boruto for what it is separate of Naruto. Idk it’s really not that difficult to just be like yea this isn’t Naruto, cool. But that’s just me.
@Mrbookworm-k4v
@Mrbookworm-k4v 2 ай бұрын
I’m the same way bro
@coreybeaver8504
@coreybeaver8504 8 ай бұрын
Someone hasnt been reading two blue vortex
@MandatoryFruit
@MandatoryFruit 8 ай бұрын
I'm a pretty big Boruto fan myself, and I've kinda just gotten tired of trying to defend it at this point. I don't think it's like, the best story ever told, but I see so much good in the story that outweighs the bad. Unfortunately, people are ignorant as mentioned in the video. I can't wait to see some of the toxic ass replies this comment will get.
@NinthShinigami
@NinthShinigami 8 ай бұрын
You shouldn’t get any kinda toxicity for liking something so much. I respect your opinion man even if I may not fully agree with it 🤝
@nicholasrolison926
@nicholasrolison926 8 ай бұрын
Shame, because the story has so many moments that are a love letter to the OG series. One example I love using is the Ao arc; you take this side character and give him a compelling story of a broken vet still trying to find his place in the world, and here comes our new MC trying to validate the shinobi way he threw away with the experience he's gained since tarnishing his reputation, all while learning a lesson about how tools aren't good/bad it's how you use them, and then proving to Ao that throwing away your pride as a ninja won't bring you happiness, only for the clone of his fathers masters to crush Ao (and in a last harah, saving Boruto with ninjutsu) proving he was a shinobi in the end. We then learn that Koji's modus operandi is that a shinobi is _also_ a tool _(neither good or bad)_ which is how he was able to throw Ao away so callously, only to learn this was all for the greater good of stopping Jigen & Kara. All of this done with a side character from the OG series who's entire identity was "being the Mizukages aid and having a byakugan".
@kevintanza6968
@kevintanza6968 8 ай бұрын
Thing is people are not forced to like it. Some people have this mindset that the default position with something is that you have to like it. And saying that the story is bad doesn't make that reader an "ignorant who can't understand the beautiful, nuanced storytelling" and doesn't make the fan someone who is smart and can see all themes, narratives, and so on. If you like things that are controversial and divisive (like Boruto), you're going to run with critics. Hell, Naruto is a lot more beloved and successful and that series has a lot of critics.
@nicholasrolison926
@nicholasrolison926 8 ай бұрын
@@kevintanza6968The problem I have with your comment is saying _"something is bad"_ and _"I don't like this"_ aren't equivocal. You can totally not vibe with something, but calling something "bad" obviously gives it the stigma of it being subpar, and fans of it *will* defend it, because *they* like it.
@omnianimator8468
@omnianimator8468 7 ай бұрын
I hope you don't fall off that high horse you're sitting on .
@howeirdgaming4386
@howeirdgaming4386 8 ай бұрын
Excellent video.
@whoizray_
@whoizray_ 8 ай бұрын
boruto needs to be viewed as its own story if we keep comparing it to naruto we never gonna be satisfied
@PeterTheRock3
@PeterTheRock3 8 ай бұрын
Almost impossible The manga is written in a way that you'll be completely lost if you haven't read/watched OG Naruto
@bashamd96
@bashamd96 8 ай бұрын
I tried that, then I saw Naruto characters and could no longer
@Goku-fn3qd
@Goku-fn3qd 8 ай бұрын
I mean like bro said in the beginning of the video, it IS NOT happening
@RiazAhmed-cr1re
@RiazAhmed-cr1re 8 ай бұрын
Yeah but that's not how life works. The point is, it is a sequel. Trying to forget that or look at it as its own doesn't change.
@UnravelGhoulx
@UnravelGhoulx 8 ай бұрын
You can’t look at Boruto by itself. It’s a continuation of Naruto at its core.
@Binks129
@Binks129 4 ай бұрын
I’ve been feeling this way for a while but I think that the focus or rather the age we’re in shouldn’t be from Boruto’s generation. We grew up seeing Naruto strive to become the greatest Hokage, and in my opinion we shouldn’t have ever seen it. People are just seeing our hero as a bad dad, getting nerfed, etc. and this new insert Naruto but is better skill wise from the jump is a hard pill to swallow. I think they should have skipped a generation where Boruto, Sarada, pretty much the characters were know are already adults and full fledged Ninja and they are the ones training the Next generation. Of fresh new Ninjas with new unique skills and not copy and paste of their parents jutsus we already know about. Naruto has passed away and all we hear about him are his great deeds and all the amazing things he did from stories the others have to tell about him. Like with Every other fan favorite Hokage that came before him. They’re fan favorites and we never see them do anything until way later in the series.
@Devon-Hendrix
@Devon-Hendrix 8 ай бұрын
Love it when ya drop bro
@OneColdRepublican
@OneColdRepublican 8 ай бұрын
I like the Drip of Boruto. Sadara new attire post time skip looks HELLA COOL. And those colored front page chapters get thinking of fashion magazines.
@xXSonTJXx
@xXSonTJXx 8 ай бұрын
I 100% agree with your reasonings for while Boruto is hated especially with the art
@quraishvlogs3471
@quraishvlogs3471 8 ай бұрын
I just love boruto i’m defending him even before timeskip
@W_AXOM
@W_AXOM 8 ай бұрын
Till this day i think abt how well received the series would've been if only there was an arc or even a single chapter portraying Naruto and boruto's father-son bond in pre hokage Naruto era and then transitioning their relationship within the first arc of boruto Like imagine reading 700 chapters of naruto as a hero and savior of the world and then you start the next chapter with him being a deadbeat💀,i would instantly drop the series idk bout others
@nelksper
@nelksper 7 ай бұрын
this was amazing as a boruto fan i thankyou for validating people’s preconceptions and taking a deep dive. i know you don’t makes boruto content on a regular basis but i’ve been seeing a lot of really intelligent “borutubers” as of late and ill def tune in to your other vids 👍
@francisco65372
@francisco65372 8 ай бұрын
I personally dislike the first part of Boruto, but the current part pf Boruto is a lot better than what I expected
@gig7932
@gig7932 8 ай бұрын
Even better than the Kawaki arc?
@landendrake
@landendrake 8 ай бұрын
@@gig7932Boruto genuinely wasn’t interesting to me until the Kawaki arc began. I believe it changed Boruto for the better.
@morioh6623
@morioh6623 8 ай бұрын
Almost like taking a fat steaming dump on your parent story rubs fans the wrong way.
@nicholasrolison926
@nicholasrolison926 8 ай бұрын
@@morioh6623 How do you feel it does a disservice to the parent story?
@nicholasrolison926
@nicholasrolison926 8 ай бұрын
@@landendrakeReally? I thought the Ao arc was really solid.
@dawnraxplays2706
@dawnraxplays2706 6 ай бұрын
there are alot of plot points in the manga that just make boruto really hard to like even after the deadbeat borutos dad situation was resolved, like theres always some narrative that leaves a good portion of the audience with confusion or complete fustration.......and not the good kind of fustration. i stand by the claim that having naruto and sasuke still be in the same era as boruto is a bad idea because their are genuin moments where all that needs to happen is for naruto or sasuke to show up and everything is just solved it can really cheapen the stakes like even if boruto loses whats stopping his dad from spinning the block for his son power wise having a character so much stronger being closely related to one thats so much weaker and the stronger one also not being a main character is not a good time hence the frustration of that same stronger character keeps being nerfed so that they dont solo the entire universe leaving the actual main character out to dry...... i dont care how tired or offguard sasuke was at the time, with his rinnegan still active he should be able to react to a borushiki flying at him with a little kunai in his periphal visio, sasuke the guy known for his hyper reaction speeds and hyper battle senses simular to narutos cant react to a guy flying at him with just a kunai. dont get me started on naruto and hinata basically getting 1 shotted by kawaki, telling me bro couldnt react in time to avoid getting sealed into a different dimension where did the dawg in these 2 characters we grew up with go???? most of the villains in boruto manga are just aliens with very lackluster motivations and personality i feel like theyre worse than kaguya at this point the entire power system that's been established since the early days of Naruto is also being screwed over and essentially thrown out which is where the confusion comes from........because all of a sudden everyone and their grandmothers second cousin can absorb ninjutsu and chakra in some way leaving taijutsu as the only real way to get in there which makes alot of fights in the manga one dimensional.......and the fights arent rlly good either way their choreographed pretty bad with all those speed lines and reuse of poses and clashes borutos powers just get too convoluted we havent seen anything about the jougan in eons. what is it even, how did a jougan, something that only shibai otsusuki is said to have end up in boruto, it activated at strange times and boruto cant control it. boruto returns from the time skip with......flying raijin somehow.........only minato and tobirama ever managed to use that jutsu properly......so who taught boruto flying raijin?.........boruto now created a jutsu that uses the planets rotation to deal cripling damage to u......somehow...essentially works like a glorified poison if it hits and boy if code isnt the biggest joke in anime, literally got stepped on when boruto teleports into the village cant get more disrespected than that.......the fact that sasuke lost against code and got turned into a tree just baffles me
@Dave102693
@Dave102693 5 ай бұрын
Ikr?
@lessor-unknown
@lessor-unknown 7 ай бұрын
Ikemoto is the illustrator not the author... Kodachi is the creator of boruto while kishimoto overlooked it for awhile until he started helping on writing it.
@copiipasta1468
@copiipasta1468 8 ай бұрын
I wish i could like boruto but everytime i read chapter 1 and see that naruto becomes a neglectful father i just feel like they didnt care as much as i do about the series, it feels like they couldnt get boruto to dislike his father for anything reasonable so they created a situation that just would never happen in my mind atleast. Naruto would never be a neglectful father to me idk, just that small character detail leaves a really sour taste in my mouth but its because i hold the series to a high standard and i feel like they failed at one of narutos strongest aspects. Naruto knows just how painful it could be to be alone or to feel like theres no one there for you so to see him pass on that pain he knows too well to his son and daughter im just left with a question of why couldnt you come up with a better reason than this?
@Dhugg3001
@Dhugg3001 8 ай бұрын
You’re blinded by nostalgia
@copiipasta1468
@copiipasta1468 8 ай бұрын
@@Dhugg3001 If watching a character learn and help multiple people deal with the pain of loneliness ( gaara, sasuke, kurama and himself ofc) and then puts that same pain onto his SON AND DAUGHTER im sorry thats just not what i signed up for, first impressions are everything and to see the major driving decision as to why the new MC hates the former is that the former MC inflicts the pain that he has been dealing with the entire series and rescued multiple people from idk it just seems like a poor writing decision, i empathize with boruto on his feeling i read naruto i saw how loneliness affected him, sasuke and gaara he has every right to be mad at naruto for what he did to himawari. I just dont like that him neglecting them was the route they took it seems incredibly cheap to me. And it was because i feel like once boruto recognizes just how amazing his dad is all of a sudden hes not neglectful anymore its really shocking how that works huh but yea im blinded by nostalgia because you couldnt explain why Naruto, the man who battled against people feeling loneliness from the beginning of the series all the way to his final battle would do something like this to his own children
@RiazAhmed-cr1re
@RiazAhmed-cr1re 8 ай бұрын
The actual thing of boruto hating naruto stems from kishimoto relationship with his son. It wasn't just some thing kishimoto threw in their cuz he didn't know what else to do, tho I do get wym.
@copiipasta1468
@copiipasta1468 8 ай бұрын
@@RiazAhmed-cr1re Thats interesting with that context it might give me the push to read further but ill see what the future holds im on a shoujo arc rn
@TheMaliciousOne767
@TheMaliciousOne767 8 ай бұрын
You say that but at the same time you don’t bother to consider Naruto’s characterization at the end of 700. Naruto historically has been able to build familial relationships with people who aren’t related to him. In ch 700, Naruto stated that the entire village his family and that he can’t be “Dad” just for Boruto at certain times. It’s an ideology that allowed him to save Sarada Uchiha but as a result he unintentionally neglects Boruto. Its flawed. Ofc Naruto knows how dreadful it is to be alone but unlike Naruto, BORUTO ACTUALLY HAS A FAMILY WAITING FOR HIM AT HOME. Therefore Boruto is never truly alone. It’s not the same. What Boruto feels isn’t loneliness, what he feels is a lack of validation because daddy doesn’t pay enough attention to him. He’s popular in school and has friends he hangs out with everyday. That’s something Naruto can’t relate to because he didn’t grow up with a father who used to always be around him only to gradually spend less time with him. He had no one. Add this in with a lack of communication between Boruto and Naruto where Boruto hides how he truly feels, you get the father and son dynamic that you don’t like.
@erickthomas6133
@erickthomas6133 8 ай бұрын
Thing is, this is a pretty well made video. I think I agree with pretty much everything said here. As a “Boruto hater” there’s still quite a bit more about the story that I would consider pretty critical flaws and keep me from enjoying it. Unfortunately, there’s so baked into the story at this point that there is literally no hope in any of it being fixed in the future. So yeah, I’ll continue to hope that it improves, but I’m about 80% sure it will never be something I can personally find all that enjoyable. I’ve read most of the time skip, and watched about 200 episodes of the OG and tbh it just sucked all the way through past and future. It is what it is.
@TheMaliciousOne767
@TheMaliciousOne767 7 ай бұрын
I can’t fathom why you guys invest so much time in something you don’t like. It makes no damn sense. 💀
@erickthomas6133
@erickthomas6133 7 ай бұрын
@@TheMaliciousOne767 I mean, the gaslighting from the Boruto fanbase doesn’t help. “You don’t get an opinion unless you’re caught up to the most recent chapters” is something I hear all the time. Besides, I WANT Boruto to be good. I desperately want Naruto to be one of the giants in anime that other shonen aspire to be. But, it’s obviously fallen behind the others in a significant way. It’s a trainwreck that you won’t want to watch but can’t look away from.
@TheMaliciousOne767
@TheMaliciousOne767 7 ай бұрын
@@erickthomas6133 Fair enough, if you really want to judge something fully, you have to consume it all. Although I do think it’s okay to admit that it’s just not for you if you watched like 3 episodes lol. I don’t find the benefit in force watching or hate reading. It sounds pointless. If I was you I’d just move on already to something else.
@erickthomas6133
@erickthomas6133 6 ай бұрын
@@TheMaliciousOne767 That’s what I did. I haven’t touched it since. Of course, you can’t judge something fully without completion, but also are you really gonna dish on someone saying they couldn’t stand one piece of they stopped after Wano? At that point I’d say their opinion is more than valid.
@oldman5540
@oldman5540 8 ай бұрын
Ikemoto doesn’t write the manga, he illustrates it, kishimoto wrote the first arc, but then Kodachi wrote everything after that until the chapter baryon mode was introduced, and then that’s when kishimoto took over to write the rest of Boruto
@mhalqurashi7021
@mhalqurashi7021 Ай бұрын
I like boruto and i used to hate it I had an on and off relationship with its manga, never seen the anime. And i loved the manga at some point, but its monthly realse of chapters drew me off. Recently, and I mean 4 days ago i finished all the manga chapters from the first chapter to the last realesed chapter from boruto and TBV mangas. And i thought to myself that it wasn't just "decent" or "just good," it was one of the best, honestly. I enjoyed every chapter, and most of the characters were good to nicely done, and the plot was great. The art was really enjoyable as well. Everything in the manga felt really well done. I eventually started seeing people's opinions to see if anybody agrees on that opinion, and it turned out like this: The people who read the manga monthly generally had a neutral to a mildly positive opinions about the manga Binge readers, as i am, had generally more positive opinions about the seires and had more appreciation to its narrative At this point of the manga, i don't really care if it was monthly realesd or not. im so happy with where the story is heading. Which is a very different opinion than that i had about the manga 3 years ago. The manga has strongly presented itself to the point that it's just too good to forget about in one month
@YeSalu-g8h
@YeSalu-g8h 8 ай бұрын
It’s not too hard to like. Two Blue Vortex was always meant to be the bread and butter
@midnight4956
@midnight4956 7 ай бұрын
I’ve been wondering, hey Ronin have you ever read or watch the series Zatch Bell, or by its Japanese name Gash Bell? I would say read it more because it does have that incomplete anime problem. But the manga went until completion and Zatch Bell 2 is slowly coming out. That’s basically my question, if you’ve ever read it before?
@MauriceCurry-gg8zx
@MauriceCurry-gg8zx 4 ай бұрын
I feel that for the most part people hate on Boruto because of how modern it is compared to Naruto and how that modernization impacts the characters
@kingslum2342
@kingslum2342 8 ай бұрын
boruto the manga is FIRE
@nicholasrolison926
@nicholasrolison926 8 ай бұрын
I do think the anime flushed out a lot of the fights. Some of the themes I feel like were also expanded on in a little more detail _(episodes like "The Past" for Kawaki as an example)_ but I prefer the manga overall.
@ChrisDeebo
@ChrisDeebo 7 ай бұрын
I've honestly given Boruto a fair shot, read all of Part 1 and some of the time skip but I still just don't like it. At this point I treat it like Fairy Tail, just here to see how it all end
@IvanAcevedo_28
@IvanAcevedo_28 7 ай бұрын
Whats not to like? I genuinely wanna know
@ChrisDeebo
@ChrisDeebo 7 ай бұрын
@@IvanAcevedo_28 Not fan of the villains in general. I thought all of Kara was dumb , Eida and Daemon are the absolute WORST creations in the entirety of Naruto. I think the entire Jougan/Momoshiki plot line is stupid and pointless. Lastly, the current arc with the Ten tail "clones?" just doesn't strike me as interesting in anyway As far as Boruto himself goes, he just ok but he's quickly becoming a character capable of whatever the plot needs him to do. The side characters are complete afterthought, hell even Sarada is on the road to becoming another damsel in distress. Don't even get me started on the character designs
@IvanAcevedo_28
@IvanAcevedo_28 7 ай бұрын
@@ChrisDeebo All you said is that you havent read the manga. Stop listening to Boruto haters and actually educate yourself on the topic. All the things you’ve mentioned are perfectly written.
@IvanAcevedo_28
@IvanAcevedo_28 7 ай бұрын
@@ChrisDeebo this is all just ignorance lmao
@IvanAcevedo_28
@IvanAcevedo_28 7 ай бұрын
@@ChrisDeebo Boruto has the best character designs in new gen,idek where you get that last statement from
@dorianbroadnax9401
@dorianbroadnax9401 8 ай бұрын
The manga cooks. But if you think too much about how it's a Naruto sequel it's trash.
@kkgadsonii6637
@kkgadsonii6637 8 ай бұрын
The manga does have its moments but i think where it fails the most is that boruto himself isnt very likable imo. Ive caught up to the most recent chapter and there isnt much i can latch onto from his character which is pretty dissapointing considering we had similar upbringings( not so great father choosing the bigger picture over you and having to find other father figures to latch onto). They made him "cool" but i feel like having a main character who is now stoic and his main foil also being stoic and broody leads to a rather boring read. The combat as always looks great and the new techniques are cool but thats kinda it. I think as a manga its servicable but tbf im only continuing to read due to my respect for its prequel.
@khalilwilson2586
@khalilwilson2586 8 ай бұрын
I like boruto the manga, a lot of people crap on the anime and it’s deserved Naruto explained did a great video on how they should’ve handled boruto. If they would’ve adapted all of the light novels that happen between the end of the war and the boruto era fully then it would’ve been a better bridge of the two eras. The anime is the ultimate slow burn and has a lot of terrible animation so it’s compounded
@nick25oo
@nick25oo 7 ай бұрын
I am fully capable of separating of the old from the new but the start of boruto story was just really bad for multiple of weird reasons and boruto as a character was probably the least interesting character of the entire story at the beginning, which didn’t really help the first viewing of the story back when it came out at all and most people didn’t stay around long enough to fine out if it got any better. In my opinion the MC of the boruto story should have been sarada uchiha or himawari because they both had way more interesting perspectives to tell at the start and boruto as a character would been way more interesting if he wasn’t locked into the MC slot and had to made more likable. Boruto could have really been this show sasuke or itachi if wasn’t the MC. Boruto is probably the first MC that I have ever seen that would become way better if he was actually a side character and I have honestly never seen that before.
@Jay_SGE
@Jay_SGE 8 ай бұрын
I been reading Naruto since like 08 and when Boruto came out I actually claimed to like it more. However it’s taken some funny turns (it’s just OP feats no heart; although I’m learning it has some heart) but I’ve learnt to let the younger generation have things.(I’m still learning)
@ireqsavagevocaldinosaur5795
@ireqsavagevocaldinosaur5795 8 ай бұрын
Boruto manga slaps
@rifarira9160
@rifarira9160 7 ай бұрын
I dont have a problem with Boruto plot itself, it actually interesting, what i have a problem with is the existence of Boruto series itself. I have follow Naruto for dozens of years, half of my life in this world (i'm 23), and for Boruto series to just come along and basically said " Yeah, my father was just another Minato, he's just a prequel to my series, and he's not actually the chosen one promised to bring about peace to this world. " is unacceptable. If MK use his other series concept for Boruto instead, Samurai in the cyber punk future, i'll have no problem with the series. At that point Boruto would not tarnish Naruto legacy just to develop the new gen, and when the nostalgia bait show up it will hit much more harder. That's why imma try my hardest to limit my self only to clips and whatnot, anything but ani/manga, until they decide to make an equivalent of DBS but for Naruto and declare Boruto to be the equivalent of DBGT. I'll hate myself is if i fall in love with Boruto series rn.
@nahte123456
@nahte123456 8 ай бұрын
So I want to be clear on my bias before I continue. I do not think I'd like Boruto even on it's own. It is...REALLY ugly in my eyes, literally I physically don't like looking at the manga at times, I don't really like Boruto as a character, and a lot of the themes just don't click with me. That being said, it'd just be something I shrug at and move from if it was on it's own. Art isn't everything in a story no matter how bad I think it is, and me personally not liking something isn't a sign of quality. I also never liked Attack On Titan, it's just not for me, and that's fine. That being said, yeah this is called "Next Generation", it is built on being connected to Naruto, and that is how I judge it. Stuff like Naruto's fathering doesn't feel earned, the lore is pretty bad now and outright contradicts things that Naruto was consistent on, not to mention stuff like fights feeling worse because of that inconsistency, and a lot of the things I liked in Naruto feel dropped rather than resolved at times. But those are just my takes of course.
@titanruler3015
@titanruler3015 8 ай бұрын
I was definitely apart of the ignorant group until maybe 2 years ago and actually gave the manga a chance, and ironically enough this video dropped maybe and hour after I just read the newest chapter of two blue Vortex. The series has definitely grown on me but I completely understand why some people wouldn’t like it
@rennenb
@rennenb 8 ай бұрын
I still think it’s hilarious one of my employees favorite characters in Boruto is Code and this the anime top tier
@midosabbagh
@midosabbagh 8 ай бұрын
Solid video but i think you're forgetting another major gripe a lot of people had with the story and thats the mistreatment of legacy characters. Naruto, sasuke, lee, and bringing jiraya back was a big mistake in my and many others opinions. His character arc ended almost perfectly and even kishimoto said he didnt want to bring that character back because it would devalue what was built over decades which it did... This constant devaluation of the old characters in favor of the new was bad to watch and bad writing. i agree with everything else you brought up though
@UnravelGhoulx
@UnravelGhoulx 8 ай бұрын
Tbf He didn’t bring Jiraiya back, he made a clone that is very and I mean very different from his original. It plays into one of the themes of Boruto because a lot of characters are clones of someone that exist, and these clones can never replicate the original.
@midosabbagh
@midosabbagh 8 ай бұрын
@@UnravelGhoulx except they didnt tell anyone he was a clone at first so people weren't sure if he was jyraya or not, which makes your whole point moot. If you were following the story weekly they made you believe it might be jyraya on purpose and just like Kishimoto said people weren't happy.
@AtenSol12
@AtenSol12 8 ай бұрын
now i want to see a video comparing how Aang developed as a character and what lessons he learned vs Naruto and what lessons he learned and how those do or dont contribute to fatherhood. cause like the same thing happened to Aang altho it was less he was neglectful or anything like that just more focused on the one kid who was the entirety of his culture.
@sohammitra1951
@sohammitra1951 8 ай бұрын
I agree with almost every except Eida,She is actually a interesting and nuanced character, if you look into it well enough,still mostly plot device for now, but still a good one..Also Sarada is better than you stated but since you are only Manga reader I can understand your bland opinion about Sarada
@Mixlordamvshaha
@Mixlordamvshaha 8 ай бұрын
@BrokenRonin you should really checkout itsmeek's character analysis on boruto.
@hassanhassan-os5oq
@hassanhassan-os5oq 8 ай бұрын
I mean it's a direct sequel to Naruto so it being compared to Naruto is just expected
@junionolet9912
@junionolet9912 8 ай бұрын
For me even if boruto saved the whole universe he wouldn't compare to naruto, but the skip is really good. Im excited every month Atleast
@RiazAhmed-cr1re
@RiazAhmed-cr1re 8 ай бұрын
This is a very based take on Boruto and my view on it basically alligns with yours too. Despite everything, I do still enjoy reading this along with BC.
@codenamecadet
@codenamecadet 8 ай бұрын
people will look back at this manga and call it underrated. boruto’s main objective in the first chapter was telling you that this is a completely different story. if you are comparing naruto to it, then you are doing yourself a huge disservice. btw, i was there when Naruto was getting shit on when most was calling it the worst ending they have ever read/seen 💀
@twhoyoutrynabebuchanan5149
@twhoyoutrynabebuchanan5149 8 ай бұрын
The second part of boruto is pretty hard if you’re reading it.
@RavenAveira
@RavenAveira 7 ай бұрын
To answer your question, yes, yes I have, I've tried thinking about it separate from Naruto as its own story, I've tried to think of the plot, tried to think of the characters, tried to think of the villains, the battles, the conflicts, I've thought about literally everything and even went into Boruto with an open mind willing to give it a chance and I have stuck around over 7 years, from 2017 to 2024 I have stuck by this garbage giving it chance after chance after chance making excuses just to keep going and being foolishly optimistic that its gonna get better and for 7+ years 200 episodes and 89 chapters IT HAS ONLY GOTTEN WORSE and I am TIRED. I am DONE making excuses, DONE hoping for things to get better, DONE expecting anything good to come out of this sequel and have completely lost any care or investment in it at all, I am literally ONLY not dropping this because I've invested way too much time into this bs to drop out now, I made it this long so I might as well finish what I started. There is no redeeming qualities about this sequel anymore, the writing? ass, the characters? ass, the plot? ass, the villains? ass, Sarada's MS? worst awakening in Uchiha history, how Naruto got benched? goofy, how Sasuke got benched? pathetic, the OGs? nonexistent, power scaling? complete joke, even Kawaki who was the main saving grace carrying this sequel on his back has now been completely ruined and turned into Codes level of incompetence and pitifulness, hes been reduced to a ragdoll constantly knocked out, sneaked, or making dumbass decisions. I cannot emphasize enough that there are NO redeeming qualities about this sequel anymore, none at all, if you dont D-ride Boruto and just like seeing him do cool shit and bitch everyone he comes across like its nothing then theres nothing enjoyable about this sequel, literally everything ppl say positive about this series is about what COULD happen or what they THINK is gonna happen and more often than not it doesnt, like till this day ppl are still saying 'give it time Sarada will have her moment to shine' and she never does, she's done nothing, I repeat NOTHING since the Boro fight but ppl STILL believe shes gonna have this big turn around and development when its so obvious she wont and Boruto will always steal her spotlight because he has to 'keep his promise' which is a million times worse excuse than Sakura being a medic being why she wasnt allowed to fight on the frontlines much, atleast that made sense for a medic to prioritize healing and staying alive, wtf is Sarada's reason? Boruto promised to be her right hand man and protect her, so now he has to swoop in and protect her from every single conflict she faces and like an obedient dog she obeys him everytime he tells her to stay back and let him handle it. Im done making excuses, done looking at the 'deeper meaning', done looking for nuance that doesnt exist, and done denying the reality that everyone no matter how much they still wanna have faith Boruto will get better knows deep down it wont, their only holding off on condemning it entirely because Boruto vs Kawaki is their last hope and their praying the ending can make up for all the atrocities before it but we all know it wont, but deluding ourselves into believing it will is the only way to get through this mess at this point. Yes I and majority of others get it, we're not dumb, we're not stupid, we're not incapable of seeing the bigger picture, we see and know what the writer is trying to convey, the problem is they do a piss poor job of ding so, the art doesnt help because it lacks so much emotion, every single character is flat, repetitive, inconsistent, and uninteresting, and the fights arent even engaging or fun to watch to compensate for the underwhelming story and poorly written characters. You literally cant even fall back on the MAIN appeal of battle shounen, THE BATTLES. This shit is just a travesty and its time to wake up and stop trying to defend the indefensible because we all know once this sequel ends and theres no more 'give it time let them cook' excuses aint nobody gonna be defending this garbage and will finally admit what we been saying all along as Boruto will officially cement itself as one of the worst sequels in anime history, literally in the top 5 right next to Yashahime and DBGT.
@sumnahlennon5449
@sumnahlennon5449 8 ай бұрын
Boruto's popularity relies heavily on OG Naruto's popularity. Outside Japan, if that is a topic, Boruto had poor TV ratings and low views. So casual viewers did not enjoy the anime. Few new fans got the appeal. The manga is an improvement, particularly True Blue Vortex. But its a monthly manga better left binge read when its actually complete
@TxLegacy_8099
@TxLegacy_8099 8 ай бұрын
When I watch/read Boruto I don't watch/read to like it or hate it. 💀
@treymykel
@treymykel 7 ай бұрын
I don't necessarily agree with this video people have fair criticism they have talked about why they don't like this show and people have given their chance or whatever I don't think people are haters of boruto genuinely hate boruto it's the writing choices in the story plots and that's something that is the manga and anime's fault people give gave it a chance when it first started but again when you betray characters from the previous series to try to uplift new characters like boruto by downgrading and down playing Naruto and Sasuke It makes it kind of hard for people really get into the series now I'm not saying people can't like it that's fine but I think it gets it's fair hatred or criticism or whatever because Naruto's been going on for years a lot of us grew up with it and then if you're going to do a sequel yes I expect the same caliber of writing and interest and intrigued like Naruto was and the problem is boruto is not like that and you can't keep telling people that they have to keep waiting or they have to keep reading or watching in order for them to finally enjoy it some shows just don't work and I feel like this is a wasted sequel because if you really want to tell a good story with boruto Tell a good story but not at the cost of Naruto in the previous cast from Naruto if that makes sense
@omnianimator8468
@omnianimator8468 7 ай бұрын
If anything I'm too entrenched in my boruto dislike to read it. I watched the Boruto movie long before I had consistent access to the internet. I treated Boruto post movie the same as I treated seven deadly sins post season 2, with apathy and listen to what happens in the show. I still don't believe two blue vortex is going to be good, but I will shut my mouth and wait for how it play out(Because its a semi clean slate). The thing I'm looking for is consistent quality, not consistently amazing of course, decent to good.
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 5 ай бұрын
I hate the series because exactly of the power system and otsutsukis, a clan nobody even wanted to explore yet alone create more antagonists, in at all. Naruto's list of antagonists and villains weren't just the uchiha. They were other people who lived lives and had their own story, motivations, desires, and dreams. For as much as I despise Danzo, he is an amazing character who reflects the dark era of the past, a shinobi who by all means defined what a shinobi means. He is someone no matter how much you resented, did what he believed in and died for it. You can recognize that and respect that. That's why Boruto to me isn't good. It became a series about a boy who wanted to become hokage, who realized that the entire world revolved around shinobi, war, conflicts, ideology clashes, revenge and honor, became nothing more than a DBZ wankfest for its blind fanbase who will lap anything up because it's attached to Naruto. Why should I love a series when it doesn't remain consistent with its initial goal of trying to find your own shinobi way and move out of the shadows of your parents legacy into suddenly trying to stop an alien from nuking and killing everybody with no end goal in mind? Why should I remotely care about these characters they hype up when over half of them are irrelevant since even before the timeskip in the chunin exams and no form of dichotomy? The worst part is that all of them are lazy rehashes with no motivations of their own. Chocho is just a copy of her father with no traits from her mother. Shikadai copies shikamaru and the series must've ignoed or forgotten Temari is his mother. Basically, the series still has the shonen misogynistic view of women in the series. They just only exists as extensions of a parent and not their own character. Sarada initially was separate from this before Blue Vortex ruined her and she as well is just the same, an extension of Sasuke and Boruto, who whines and cries and does nothing. That, along with terrible plotholes, a broken power system, and mischaracterizations, is the reason why Boruto is the worst next gen/modern anime and manga in existence and the reason why I stopped at the Chunin Exams arc. Just because it's popular doesn't mean its exempt from criticism, since people think popular show equates to it being good. I criticize DBS as well and I'm fine with the show. Bleach TYBW arc still has detractors and people saying it should've ended at Aizen. Boruto's fanboys can't accept criticism of the show at all. They just say "don' watch it then if you don't like it" as a means to deflect valid critiques of a show that Kishimoto himself never wanted.
@thomaskennedy5728
@thomaskennedy5728 5 ай бұрын
Completely agree. Danzo was a good villan,he felt like a true villian inspite of not being that overpowered to nuke a City. Even though aizen was probably stronger than anyone they shown in boruto and Naruto,he wasn't liked for this reason. He didn't lift his sword much in entire series but all his dialogues,calmness, emotional damage he gives to enemy made him one of the most unique Villains. Even His presence felt frightening. Boruto villian lack this depth,they are given overpowered traits and just fights, nothing else.
@Mr_NobleMan711
@Mr_NobleMan711 7 ай бұрын
Can you please make a video on Ragna vs whole JJK Verse.
@danielstarr9037
@danielstarr9037 8 ай бұрын
I’d like to see the percentage of the Naruto fanbase over the age 30 that are also fans of Boruto
@MDPTheReal
@MDPTheReal 8 ай бұрын
I initially despised the story because of how powerhouses such as Naruto and Sasuke were completely embarrassed from characters who seemed to not work for anything. When I saw what Jigen did to these gods of Shinobi I wanted to drop the series right then and there. Furthermore, I saw no point in killing Kurama either, a character that was essentially integral, or I guess a better word would be synonymous, with Naruto’s character.
@stephonwalker5425
@stephonwalker5425 8 ай бұрын
The thing with Jigen I can almost understand with how people hate how he was destroying Naruto and Sasuke, but it also make sense since he of the same race as Kaguya and might be just as strong as her. They also had help from Sakura and Kakashi while with Jigen it was mostly just them doing the fighting.
@ucmanhvuong4301
@ucmanhvuong4301 8 ай бұрын
@@stephonwalker5425 problem is we have Momoshiki over here who is stated multiple times to be way stronger than Kaguya and look how our two old protags dumpstered that fool. And then that one guy who got injured by Kaguya is somehow overpowering them now, and so easily at that. The power scale is all over the place, and like it doesn't take professional power scaling geeks to figure that out. And srsly what's up with Sasuke's chakra ffs. He kept running out after 5s, and everyone acts as if my dude doesn't have a portable battery next to him whenever they team up. What's with that???
@stephonwalker5425
@stephonwalker5425 8 ай бұрын
@@ucmanhvuong4301 yeah didn't like that about Sasuke either like I get he spams the teleportation but he knows when to use it and how to save chakra. Valid point
@moony2k326
@moony2k326 8 ай бұрын
Boruto TBV is the best new gen manga out there and it’s got me waiting anxiously for the 20th each month 🔥🔥
@markclinton9088
@markclinton9088 8 ай бұрын
I think the anime being full of filler and a lot of Boruto fans who are active online are very annoying has given the series an unjustified level of hatred
@isaiahadesiyan6708
@isaiahadesiyan6708 8 ай бұрын
I can literally say that me and my homies all hate Sasuke in Boruto with his “running out of chakra” head ass
@Weebgamer236
@Weebgamer236 8 ай бұрын
That's anime headcanon
@UnravelGhoulx
@UnravelGhoulx 8 ай бұрын
He never runs out of chakra in the manga. If he did he would have died. 💀
@mouadboularas475
@mouadboularas475 7 ай бұрын
Only in filler eps
@troy6646
@troy6646 7 ай бұрын
I watch the anime and read the manga and have to admit mitsuki and sarada are way more enjoyable in the anime. Same for team 10 and himawari and kawaki as well, although unless we start getting them written in the manga, it does feel off. In the anime, kawaki basically has a soft spot for himawari and more or less acknowledges that she sees him as an older brother, so he protects and helps her. U can argue its cuz she is Naruto's daughter but i feel like they try and portray it as him caring. In the manga, i feel like i don't remember them even interacting outside of breaking the vase
@ultimateshadeofwar
@ultimateshadeofwar 8 ай бұрын
I will say this my problems with Boruto aren't just with it, are with Naruto's ending as a whole, and no, it's not a pairing problem(Even through in my opinion from the manga perspective which is what i experience it just makes no sense), i have a ton of problems with the ending of Naruto... So can i expect Boruto to solve Naruto... No and it shouldn't, it should progress on it's own thing... But it will keep carrying them, so yeah im not going to waste my time on it because of that. Because my problem is not just Boruto, it's Masashi Kishimoto writting through the ending of his own Manga, and i can't expect it's sequel to be better.
@trevor5834
@trevor5834 8 ай бұрын
1:32 A double agent? Nah, just a man who was once loyal to his cause, but found an alternative path. You could call him a broken Ronin, if you must
@That1Weeb
@That1Weeb 7 ай бұрын
Hearing the word "naruto" come out of your mouth gives me a stupid amount of seratonin 😂😂
@akaron5498
@akaron5498 3 ай бұрын
On the anime canon note, arc’s like Kara Actuation boosted the Kara Arc heavily for me. Too bad it’s really hit or miss with the anime, and the Manga isn’t dropping consistently enough to develop side characters thoroughly. It’s a meh watch, and a good read, but nothing too crazy. I will say watching the anime made me enjoy Boruto as a character a LOT more than I would through just the manga.
@FangLeng-lh4gn
@FangLeng-lh4gn 8 ай бұрын
IDK why people hate on Boruto or even why boruto fans states that Boruto and Naruto are different. I love boruto mainly becoz of the Dynamic it shows with old charcater and new character i.e. Naruto and Boruto, Sasuke and Sarada, etc.
@seniorsterling1064
@seniorsterling1064 7 ай бұрын
What dynamic Sasuke is a tree and Naruto is written out the story
@FangLeng-lh4gn
@FangLeng-lh4gn 7 ай бұрын
@@seniorsterling1064 Itachi was just for 20ish ep in whole anime! Quality > Quantity Sasuke and Naruto stuff is at the end of Boruto and TBV
@blackskullknight9062
@blackskullknight9062 8 ай бұрын
As an OG fan who was never interested in boruto, I am proud of those who stick to it until the time skip and afterwards. 😊🍵 Cheer to that.
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