Boruto Vs Asta | Who Wins Post Timeskip?

[@KingBullet123]

Calcs Boruto: docs.google.com/document/d/1-njY5xEjbUoaMkuGcW4_TaU_iyRTCXNsiuZhMg-6Hdg/edit vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:100th_Hokage/FTL_Transformed_Momoshiki_Feat

[@edocursedmark2693]

Thanks for including the calcs W vid U should debate noodles 🍜 thatd be an event

[@Arjun-kz1ji]

@@edocursedmark2693 lmao urashiki is a glass cannon so i dont take him seriously plus he miht just be travelling through portals

[@POKERFACESOCIOPATH]

Well I expected you to downplay asta while overrating boruto so I won't take these seriously

[@PLUS-ULTRA666]

Either way you greatly ignored asta potential and black clover cosmology that surpasses boruto Also where the hell is natch shadow universe meta TREE OF QLIPHOTH (BLACK CLOVER COSMOLOGY) Infra-dimensions: The term "infra-dimensions" could be used in an esoteric context to describe planes or realities below conventional dimensions. This could involve ideas of occult realities, spiritual worlds or less accessible levels of existence. It's important to note that these concepts are often linked to specific beliefs and thought systems, and their interpretation can vary according to esoteric or religious traditions. If you have a more specific question about any of these concepts, or would like more detailed information, please don't hesitate to provide further details. The Qliphoth is dimensionally separated from the physical world (THE FIVE-HEDED DRAGON WILL GENERATE A DISTORTION OF SPACE-TIME, LINKING THIS REGION TO HELL), which represents the human world, hence the fact that Hell is the underworld below the physical world. This is one of the reasons why only the Tree of Life can enable the demon to manifest itself in the physical world. The tree of life in relation to the heavens: Malkuth = physical world 9 spheres = 9 heavens There are also 9 infadimensions below the physical world Every Cosmos is linked to: The law of 3 (linked to Kether, Chokmah, Binah) Law 7 (linked to Chesed by Malkuth) Cosmos refers to the Universe and its laws, or, more generally, to the whole universe (is the universe seen as an ordered set made up of hierarchical subsets), so if it's made up of cosmos all separated by the gates, we know that there are several layers within this structure, all dimensionally separated from one another. So we know that we're dealing with a universal world of 9, all dimensionally separated by 7 gates for sevens layers, within the same framework, with their own chronology, given that the time axis is present in each layer. In the 5th paragraph of the Limbo section of the Qliphoth, the existence of the 5th dimension within this structure is inferred. Given that the Limbo is part of the subterranean world, the 5th dimension should apply to the cosmos of the subterranean Qliphoth. But given that each world is dimensionally separated from the other and that there are universal layers superior to the demonic rank all separated by gates, the logic goes that if the demons are inferior to other demons of a layer below superior to their layer above and we link this superiority to the layer then the layer should be but there is no more pepper for that so we induce that each layer will be of 5th dimmension. Qliphoth are Composite Hierarchies? The Qliphoth has layers, as Nacht suggests, each of which contains several dimensions within it. Alternatively, these may be known as metaphysical layers. And the lower demons are so insignificant to the higher demons that they are literally crushed. basically, to a higher-layer entity, the lower entity is so insignificant that it can hardly be called real. General Abilities Demon linked to Qliphoth Higher-Dimensional Existence (5D): Limbo (5D): The limbo is a 5D existence within the Qliphoth and is found within the entire structure linked to the dimensional existence of all demonic rands. Unconventional physiology: Lucifero, a high-ranking (King of Devil) demon linked to the Qliphoth who has a 5th-dimensional Limbo at his disposal, has come into the human universe. We can see that the manifestation of matter would lead to strange behavior on the part of matter in relation to Clover's universe. From the Malkuth we emit that the cosmology of the underworld is dimensionally separate from the physical world as we know it, hros the fact that the physical world is three-dimensional i.e. 3D then the underworld should be lower dimensional? We're talking about two different cosmologies with their own dimensional levels, given that the two multiverses are separate. The fact that it's below the 3D physical world doesn't make it dimensionally inferior, because that's just because its structure is below the physical world, but not dimensionally inferior. The living Universe of black clover contains infinite timelines and possibilities and outcomes Lucius stated that he can see 20000 of this possible timelines and future outcomes where he alters the future based on how he precive it Making living universe itself low complex multiversal lvl Boruto cosmology still claps at Universal lvl

[@christianmago7568]

​@@PLUS-ULTRA666Why don't you put that sh*t in the vs battle wiki because Asta is at 6-A currently while End of Boruto Part 1 is at 5-C. Boruto Post Timeskip is much stronger than he was at the end of part 1, so he's at 5-C on base. It's clear who is stronger.

[@Archetype_Earthy]

Luv both of them Unfortunately Boruto is too strong here stats wise & power, both are beyond light speed & ftl speeds *Boruto = MFTL+* *Asta = MFTL*

[@redkingosiris3800]

Ehhh idk bout boruto being faster

[@Ok-uw3jq]

@@redkingosiris3800you can get naruto without chakra to ftl. That alone gets boruto to mftl+

[@redkingosiris3800]

@@Ok-uw3jq still not explaining how he’s faster then asta 😂

[@villain9482]

​@@redkingosiris3800maybe you can't read. He said Naruto without chakra. Can easily be scaled faster than light. He was also sick and on a bike during that feat. Use your brain for two minutes

[@J0kerz_Editz]

@@villain9482he clearly doesn’t have one and to add on…Boruto is a full otsutsuki who could fly lol he’s superior to Naruto in every way possible people gotta cope

[@lakithchandra8901]

Awesome video man

[@rcs.aries00]

U forgot that boruto has the borushiki state too😂

[@nandomo5209]

Fr he has Karma form and Borushiki

[@rcs.aries00]

@@nandomo5209 yup

[@Adolfo.Kittler]

Not only that there's also the possibility that he knows shinjutsu which counters astas anti magic cause it doesn't use any chakra 😂 so boruto still slaps

[@POKERFACESOCIOPATH]

​@@Adolfo.Kittleranti magic is Anti energy Chakra is an energy

[@Adolfo.Kittler]

@@POKERFACESOCIOPATH Read again

[@SeifWL2]

W love your videos ceo of goats was here

[@The_endlessV1]

boruto doesn't just beat asta, he solos the verse

[@a.i.8707]

Nah ngl he extreme diffing Asta but he not soloing the verse

[@The_endlessV1]

his not extreme diffing asta his no diffing asta easily and soloing the verse. @@a.i.8707

[@skybattle1184]

Lmfao yea igh boruto is not beating asta 💀💀💀💀

[@orochimarupr]

Boruto gets slapped

[@Archetype_Earthy]

Fax

[@amorishere]

YES THANK YOU I BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ❤️

[@Oreo_166]

1:46 You must’ve been using Death Battle for this, weren’t you…? Patry wasn’t gonna vaporize the kingdom *at all.* He was going to use those light-based sword to stab each and every citizen WITHIN the kingdom. How do ppl misinterpret this feat…? 🤦‍♂️

[@wastingtimejustwaiting]

brandenheilm guy hello

[@Oreo_166]

@@wastingtimejustwaiting Yo! Nice seeing ya.

[@edocursedmark2693]

U can still use the salamander statement (said to be able to dry an ocean) twice

[@Oreo_166]

@@edocursedmark2693 Ikr? That easily gets pre-timeskip Asta to at *least* multi-continental.

[@Seven-dt4ri]

It doesn’t matter it was still be enough to cover the entire country

[@God00364]

I was waiting for someone to make this video , thanks brother ❤.

[@mobarenleidowu1336]

Boruto solos asta + his verse.

[@Niko-yk7zr]

pre timeskip asta Slams hes universal

[@Archetype_Earthy]

@@Niko-yk7zr Broku is contradicting the Manga & takes every statement at face value He's basically saying Black Clover can hang with Dragon Ball😭 I like Black Clover but that guy is pure bias Tell him to know what pocket reality Manipulation is first a lot of anime verses use same ability but you never hear them obsessed with Uni scale unless the Verse is Universal or higher having beings which can create or destroy universes.

[@enochwise4784]

@@Niko-yk7zrBoruto can also be scaled to Uni+ if you wanna go down the high ball road! Via interpreting Kaguyas dimensions as a universe as she was gonna destroy space and time in her dimension which is significantly > 3D and Momos dimension being called a parallel universe to the Naruto world in the novel!

[@Suleimanpillay]

Highly doubtful because of the power of julius he can and will easily wash anyone in naruto genjutsu wouldn't work on him No one In narutos verse is faster and no one is even touching him so I couldn't see how anyone otsusuki included because he's just too nuts in stats

[@Suleimanpillay]

​​@@enochwise4784na it wouldn't be the same cause that happens in black clover something called dream world where there's a character who created her own infinite pocket dimension so then that would make black clover universal it's not the same so you can't aquire that to universal when no one in the naruto verse put a destruction level output of even destroying a moon I mean they can but not in one blow that's why I'll put them continent level reaching moon level

[@animezparadisez69]

W timing

[@mightguy3118]

Timeskip boruto is universal+ he shits on asta and the Naruto verse

[@mobarenleidowu1336]

Nah, he is multi galaxy right now. But, he would be universal+ as the manga continues.

[@mightguy3118]

@@mobarenleidowu1336 True I can agree with that. I just upscaled boruto a bit since mind you he's been in base form Toying with everyone not even using karma, jogan, or a ounce of Momoshiki power 😭

[@smokingthatkorbzpack]

That is insane highballing

[@mightguy3118]

@@smokingthatkorbzpack How? Momoshiki in the novels had some crazy feats you could scale from galaxy to universal

[@smokingthatkorbzpack]

@@mightguy3118 name a feat that highballs him to universal😂

[@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi]

The karma cam absorb energy based attacks not jus chackra so it can absorb manner

[@milkingday8396]

Can boruto solo whole MCU avengers with ease?

[@prestoCreams]

Yeah bro😂😂😂😂

[@jadenabdul-rahim9068]

No

[@bluewhale5367]

No shawtty ​@@prestoCreams

[@aaronrodriguez9376]

Comics or movies. Movies get crushed. But characters from the comics would tear boruto and his verse apart. The Phoenix force is literally a god and the scarlet witch is able to fight against this god. Not to mention the scarlet witch reality warping is far superior to even omnipotence. The scarlet witch could snap her fingers and boruto is either completely mind controlled or turned to ash.

[@aaronrodriguez9376]

Also the scarlet witch scales to omniversal. Not universal or multiversal omniversal. The proof of this is when dr strange said her spell affected the omniverse and undoing it would have severe consequences.

[@animemaster4412]

He mentions Naruto’s dimension creation feats but doesn’t mention Black clover dimension creation feats. I’m not calling you biased or anything but it looks seems pretty sus. I’m going to assume you forgot or didn’t know about the feats

[@Archetype_Earthy]

That's pocket reality Manipulation where she manipulates what's inside that space she wouldn't do the same thing in the real universe no?

[@Niko-yk7zr]

@@Archetype_Earthyshe creates the real thing when she creates things and her world is infinite in size

[@animemaster4412]

@@Archetype_Earthy What does it not being the real universe have to do anything? Pocket dimensions or realities can be the same size as a universe

[@sancho004]

​@@animemaster4412 How do you know that?

[@animemaster4412]

@@sancho004 Read the definition of pocket reality manipulation

[@Rose_Scales]

W vid I’m planning on doin this topic soon

[@KingBullet123]

👀

[@Rose_Scales]

@@KingBullet123 I also do the same type of content and have been around in the comm as long as you have. Is it cool if I have dm you?

[@KingBullet123]

@@Rose_Scales sure

[@B-ounce]

@mple34 just do the same mistake as him cause he misinterpreted the patri 'feat' witch isn't him destroying the kingdom its him using his light sword attack on mass scale on all the civillans and there are just large chunks of asta's growth he ignores like him training after defeating lucifaro. he also forgets a lot of ablitys asta has like his swordsman ship with him coping physical ability's with his ki (a good comparison is taskmaster from marvel). Bullet also lacks showing how causlity break with asta's thrid sword devil-destroyer sword would work as it breaks the bonds of spells or in this case with eqaulization 'jutsu' Glad he used the yuno form comparison though

[@Rose_Scales]

@@KingBullet123 Yeah I dmed you

[@YaGotBusted]

Even IF Asta is faster, FTG will let him surpass any speed feat agaisnt Asta. He’s the Second coming of Lord 4th, meaning he will surpass him in every way with The FTG, Also Natural Chakra is a Direct Counter to Anti Chakra. And Rasengan Uzuhiko can Uber around Asta’s sword attacks and boruto is definitely a better swordsmen. Not even a debate

[@Ty_Playz2023]

I agree, both have gotten stronger post Timeskip...and yes, both are faster than the speed of light..but ultimately, it all depends on technique, and in the end my friends Boruto 'Otsutsuki' Uzumaki solos Asta no dif.

[@Xander315]

Asta beats him in base

[@Ty_Playz2023]

@@Xander315 nah uh, Rasengan Uzuhiko destroys Asta bro..stop playin'

[@wastingtimejustwaiting]

dante never ate lucifiero's heart 😭

[@Haajoffworld]

What did he do with it then

[@wastingtimejustwaiting]

@@Haajoffworldhe just form a contract, lucious was the one who ate it

[@GirlThatsRooney]

Noice keep going

[@az45dx88]

Forgot to mention kenjutsu, i think sasuke kenjutsu is unmatched so boruto shoule be able to outmatch in kenjutsu.

[@komodoswagon628]

holy fk the speed calc is crazy

[@moonstonelaurenshihle4898]

Sorry I know this question is irrelevant ,but can someone please tell me who would win Kaguya vs Unohana ?😮

[@WakaDior]

Unohana really has no concrete scaling due to lack of feats but you could scale her to Bankai Yama who i scale to Solar System due to him literally outputting as much energy as the sun with no techniques, just him existing. So that would make Unohana Solar + MFTL by proxy. I also scale Kaguya to Solar using her dimension and the truth seeking orb feat but kaguya is also slower than Unohana so IMO it's a toss-up. Unohana might have more overall speed and power but Kaguya would have more haxs and abilites but unohana also has her healing which would amp her endurance so i'd give it to Unohana

[@daiblo.dshadow]

​@@WakaDior wtf the fuck with this wank solar Unohana or Kaguya the fuck, no just no, Yama is no solar nobody is solar 😂

[@Archetype_Earthy]

Kaguya

[@Ganishtamil]

​@@WakaDiorsun (star)heat don't make sun(star) LV. Bruh

[@WakaDior]

@@Ganishtamil my brother in Christ. You powerscale by calculating energy. “Heat” is given off by energy. Yamamoto can output enough energy to generate heat equal to that of the sun. At a mid ball that’s large star. But the sun also has other properties like mass, gravity etc. and yama can channel all the energy he generates from his Bankai into a technique which would output more energy.

[@om9959]

Asta side need more research.Even salamber at beginning of series under elf was capable of vaporising oceans stated in guide books which certified by author which easily puts him multi continental pretty easily.Lucifero is far above milllions to billions of times above, considering black clover insane power progression that giving him consistant large planetary scaling.

[@JPARnum1]

Severely lowballing Asta. This match might actually be very close.

[@NarutoVerse792]

He lowballed boruto considering he is in his base form.

[@PLUS-ULTRA666]

​@@NarutoVerse792he never low balled boruto

[@IvanAcevedo_28]

Asta just isnt that strong. He gets outscaled by juubidara and anyone stronger than juubidara. Boruto just outclasses the bc verse in every way

[@PLUS-ULTRA666]

@@IvanAcevedo_28 ASTA isn't strong enough: As far as I am sure he is strong enough to one shot shippuden verse There AP hax and speed outscales so badly to a point it's not even a debate And buddy I don't see wtf are you yapping about when BC cosmology is higher than both Naruto and boruto combined And nope currently boruto verse is Lucius zogarats victim lol 😂 And Asta solos Naruto (even without Verse equalization) He solos boruto with Verse equalization

[@IvanAcevedo_28]

@@PLUS-ULTRA666 bro💀 the bc verse is barley planetary and the cosmology is nothing crazy. Kaguya is solar system level+ so she automatically outscales bc massively. Naruto/boruto verse has better ap,speed and everything else. Madara solos bc

[@donthalfstep]

whats this instrumental?

[@thorodinson5201]

Is Boruto stronger than only Jigen or has he surpassed Ishiki as well?

[@OLegacy69]

not confirmed but it seems like he is reaching those heights of bm naruto and ishikki since he no diffed code

[@m4rkz1]

not sure but i think he can with karma or borushiki

[@trapking3721]

In chapter 74 or 75, Amado said that code was stronger than Jigen but less than Isshiki so he somewhere in the middle.

[@breexy7190]

I was wondering. Lets say that Magic and Charka works on same princip soo Asta can nullify any Jutsu. That would also mean that Boruto could with his Karma absorb any Magic right?. Could Boruto Absorb his demon swords? IF Asta can fit them in his grimoire that would mean the swords are somewhat created or contains magic and therfore they can be absorb or atleast their magic effect should be

[@rapidcougar3785]

Nah cuz there anti-magic swords

[@maku3857]

Just not counting dorthy or much of any of what bc has. You should watch one of broku’s vid to see how strong asta is.

[@Archetype_Earthy]

Asta does not have infinite power If pocket reality Manipulation were countered you would have beings like Echidna, Itachi etc already Universal The thing which holds some potential uni is how big is the underworld & who created it + each stages/layers In Naruto dimensions are referred as Parallel Worlds which exists as separate time spaces parallel to the normal Universe (Naruto)

[@Seven-dt4ri]

It’s not pocket reality manipulation she liters create a universe

[@Seven-dt4ri]

@@Archetype_Earthyeven if it was she scaled to it

[@Archetype_Earthy]

@@Seven-dt4ri nowhere it was said to be a universe go learn what pocket reality Manipulation is That's like Gojo's domain expansion or his little world spartial manipulation, Yami cut it proving it's no universe. Also Yami used the same attacks in the normal Universe but no universe was destroyed If you count that it means Itachi would be automatic universal

[@Seven-dt4ri]

@@Archetype_Earthy it doesn’t have to stated to be universe I have evadence for it

[@NxghtK]

Boruto easily beats Asta because Boruto already passed Isshiki on level and overall, isshiki is the one that no diff asta as he can just shrink his powers to atom sized.

[@Xander315]

Your reteraded

[@bluespartangaming1514]

Only real argument about this I'd make is I don't see Boruto being able to absorb Anti-Magic with the Karma; at least not with some detriment to his Chakra levels. Of course, that might actually benefit Momoshiki since he has been able to take control over Boruto when he depletes enough of his chakra. Either way, I knew Boruto was gonna be stronger than Asta once it was revealed in Twin Blue Vortex that he had learned Flying Raijin and made Rasengan Uzuhiko it was all over (and yet somehow I would want to see Yuji from Juijutsu Kaisen fight Boruto. Weird.) Also, stop with the lie that Patry was going to vaporize the Clover Kingdom with the Arrows of Judgement attack. It may have covered the country but it was only going to have the same effect as Vergil from Devil May Cry or Morgott from Elden Ring sending out their Storm of Blades attacks.

[@Buddha-igneel]

The scaling for asta is very bad lol u can get asta to 100s of thousand times ftl low ball due to feats + multipliers and how in chapter 50 characters where already ftl and as for your ap scaling for asta was poor (no a fence) but if u gave asta the same generosity as u gave boruto then as would be multi solar system to high universal due to Dorthy all tho I don’t agree with it but I also don’t agree with the boruto scaling u provide as I can put alot of what u said for boruto into question

[@wayyfasterthanyouthink2972]

Dorothy world is a Dream world so nothing is real lol, you cant scale it.

[@shadowsredeye]

You severely, like severely low-balled asta , this is one of the worst asta scaling asta is at least large planet, like wtf ?

[@relldgaf]

Moon

[@shadowsredeye]

@@Archetype_Earthy it's a called AP not dc

[@Archetype_Earthy]

@@shadowsredeye what ap does he has have exceeding planetary in the current Manga & where is it from this "ap" Non

[@shadowsredeye]

Way back in the elf arc Dorothy created moons in her dimension, and lucifero gaps that power , wtf you saying

[@darthkage2163]

​@Arcueid_Brunestud-8 and what evidence do you have of boruto doing such things evidence for asta in the movie which is cannon there is a match manga volume to go with it in that movie asta slices a moon sized meter and this was fire zetten Full devil union and long before where he currently is in the manga you lot are over hyping boruto just because he looks cool he only beaten captain level enemies at best since he came back code ain't on the level of a paladin in black clover and asta one spotted three of them

[@aaronrodriguez9376]

As usual people are biased against black clover. I agree that boruto wins but asta and most of black clover are universal not small planetary. I was hoping this video wasn't gonna underestimate asta like most.

[@itachi-weasel]

If asta really is uni than there is no way boruto can win But he is not Asta being small planetary is consistent Unless you have some feat which i don't have knowledge of than i am happy to hear

[@aaronrodriguez9376]

Boruto is beyond universal and the feat that makes asta universal is the fact that the glamour world has been destroyed 2 times. Once by yami and again by Morris. I think lucifero destroyed it as well so that's 3 times it's been destroyed. Also don't forget the glamour world is infinite. Which means anyone who scales above Morris in the spade kingdom invasion ark is universal or universal+. The characters that scale above this Morris are most of the captains, yuno, asta, Lucius, the rulers of hell, Japan captain equivalents, the leader of Japan, black bulls with anti magic, and most likely Noelle in her new form.

[@POKERFACESOCIOPATH]

​@@itachi-weaselboruto ain't uni either

[@Archetype_Earthy]

Broku?

[@aaronrodriguez9376]

To archetype-earth: broku isn't biased. I just don't think you're the best power scaler.

[@az45dx88]

Boruto has the flyin raijin so that would increase his speed.

[@ryanwaghorn5884]

I agree with the result, but I think it's closer than you think

[@nobody5066]

Boruto has become extremely OP

[@javierblease4118]

Boruto is infinite speed and universal minimum but he hasn’t reached jigens strength just yet because of a lot of things like code not being able to actually attack him because uzuhiko prevents interaction and the cyborgs are not genuinely impressed with his new strength and abilities it’s important to remember these details because code split his chakra making himself far weaker than before he gave it to ten tails which created the shinju that’s why he lost control of them he’s too weak. It ties together perfectly with a weakened sasuke being able to fight with code You could say he’s stronger than jigen but it doesn’t seem concrete however this doesn’t include his one panel where he has sage mode active and his karma makes him way stronger so with those he may be as strong or stronger than jigen he does win against Asta though

[@swzizyy]

U don’t know what ur talking about saying he only beat code is in an assumption there’s nothing that backs up that that boruto didn’t beat ts outta him and out scale him from statements to multiple feats. And code is stronger than jigen. Another statement is that Mitsuki said that kawaki stands no chance against boruto and kawaki is stronger than jigen being a perfect vessel. Read the manga

[@ChikezieDrillbwoi-qw9bs]

Boruto might lose But current mode of Boruto will destroy Asta

[@orochimarupr]

The amount of talk no jutsu

[@MrCraftyScales]

You can get asta from the witches forest arc is moon lvl

[@RedLights9000-f3l]

Do you think his scaling of boruto is good ? I don't watch Boruto

[@MrCraftyScales]

@@RedLights9000-f3l what was it again?

[@RedLights9000-f3l]

​@@MrCraftyScales he scales Boruto above jigen

[@MrCraftyScales]

@@RedLights9000-f3l I don't see too much wrong with that

[@Manga_Debates]

@@MrCraftyScalesthis guy said patri was going to evaporate the kingdom and dante ate Lucifero’s heart he’s making up this scaling 😂

[@FJUVHJDSR]

Oh we're using filler anime scenes now right??

[@rapidcougar3785]

?

[@Archetype_Earthy]

That's not filler lol

[@Ifdeathwouldwait]

I feel it’s mad early to be scaling Boruto (haven’t watched the vid yet 😭)

[@kendalluzumaki74]

Bro make a video reply to animeballs deep man thinks Asta wins 😂😂

[@wayyfasterthanyouthink2972]

Fr this guy cant do power scaling well 🤷‍♂️ bro downplaying sooo bad Boruto to give a chance for Asta to win. Base Boruto litteraly one shot the whole BCverse

[@kendalluzumaki74]

@wayyfasterthanyouthink2972 he basically saying Naruto verse is planetary when kaguya is stated multiple times to create and control her dimensions he basically said Asta> Naruto verse he is so dumb very disappointed in anime balls deep

[@wayyfasterthanyouthink2972]

@@kendalluzumaki74 Yeahh.. i am also very disappointed in Anime ball deep he's just downplaying.. like what Asta gonna do against limbos clones or TSO??? Kaguya can instantly change the dimensions and abandon Asta in one of her dimensions. Also she is immortal so he cant even kill her. Asta is getting beyond negs diff by the Narutoverse. And I hope when he say Narutoverse, he only mean the Narutoverse so not the Borutoverse includes bruh. Also she litteraly stated by herself in the manga theses dimensions, "This is my time-space", meaning this is her who created theses dimensions. She even also have a feat of fuse, so merged with her own dimensions and attacking Naruto with natural force of her dimensions that she merged with it bruh. She can legit nuke 6 entire time space with stars and moons it. While Boruto's villain are waayyyy stronger than her..

[@kendalluzumaki74]

@wayyfasterthanyouthink2972 exactly that's what annoyed me the most he upsacles the demon to destroy the world but downgrade kaguya who is stated multiple times to create her dimensions

[@wayyfasterthanyouthink2972]

@@kendalluzumaki74 Fr He's litteraly exaggerated by highball the BCverse too much for no reason. We can do the same with the Narutoverse but this is fact when it come to the Narutoverse for example. When in The Last it's was litteraly stated and showed that the chakra of 100 shinobi reunited can blow up the moon.. Teen KCM2 Naruto in the war arc litteraly shared his chakra with 10.000 or 80.000 shinobi, doing the calculations Teen KCM2 Naruto could casually destroy countless moons.. So he could also destroy the earth(planet) easily in KCM2. So Teen KCM2 Naruto would be at least Large Planets level/Dwarf Star in KCM2 Sage Mode. But guess what? The Databook literally stated that half of Kurama can turn the world to ash, so destroy the planet. So this databook dont say BS. And the gap between KCM2 and So6p form is crazy. Teen So6p Naruto would be easily star level. And the gap between Shippuden Naruto, and The Last Naruto is also crazy when Kaguya can nuke a solar system dimensions and Toneri in the last was stated to be stronger than her and Base The Last Naruto one shot Toneri... And the gap between The Last and Boruto Era is even more crazy. Base Adult Naruto can litteraly toe toe against fused Momoshiki who can litteraly one shot the Shippudenverse. And Base Boruto can beat with low mid diff NL Code who is stronger than Jigen who defeated with low diff both Adult so6p Naruto and rinnegan Sasuke.

[@gemini.saga3]

Uzuhiko >>>>>>>> black clover and bleach too

[@whkhollow9561]

seems pretty bias

[@krtikalkmo5924]

hey yall naruto/boruto fans even tho im just seeing this im gonna disagree with kin bullet as asta possesses a ability called verse equalisation and that will allow him to go up against boruto with ease so yea and plus asta is 100× faster than light itself more durable and stronger than boruto😂😂😂

[@AuroraX7]

@@BorutoTheTraitorrealistically asta can predict everything boruto will do with ki, so boruto's speed literally doesn't matter

[@dharamveersinghBais]

​@@AuroraX7well boruto got future sight too then

[@Grimgor123]

You low balled boruto and asta

[@itachi-weasel]

Boruto how?

[@trapking3721]

@@itachi-weaselbro has been in Base form since the start of TBV and he hasn’t gotten really serious.

[@Ani_World_Edit]

This guy knows nothing asta is star and even higher because Lucifero (50%) has three or four planetary statment and true devil union defeat Lucifero no diff after that Lucius eat Lucifer 100% making him stronger than 100% Lucifero in his base after a small time SKIP Lucius fight against asta and asta defeat him making him stronger than Lucifero after that he learn zatten which multiply his power by 100 making him high star level Asta defeat boruto mid-high diff

[@Archetype_Earthy]

Statement not feat If your claiming statements u do know Naruto verse has ridiculous statements out of the big 3? BC doesn't even have anyone who destroyed a planet, name him, which chapter? Naruto cosmology is insanely higher imao comparing Aliens who travel universes

[@jjk4002]

​@@Archetype_EarthyDante creating black holes is a planetary feat

[@olagokeemmanuel9625]

​@@jjk4002where on earth did dante create a black hole??? Thats not even a black hole bro. Yuki from jjk could create a legit black hole not that fodder black hole

[@jjk4002]

@@olagokeemmanuel9625 Bruh what? Black holes can be any shape or size bro wtf are u talking about. Dante creating a singularity would in turn make a black hole. And it has just as much if not more proof of it being a black hole compared to yukis one. Go educate yourself before you start talking bro.

[@olagokeemmanuel9625]

@@jjk4002 where the heck did he create a singularity??? Give me the chapter. You are just cooking up stuff. The highest he did was create a dense gravitational sphere, that's not a singularity. Please you should make your research before sprouting lies bro.

[@michaelprice6853]

Boruto slams asta 😭

[@pycho1383]

asta has quite a lot of feat that put him at uni so planetary is a lowball for him i also think urashiki speed feat cant be used since it isnt cannon

[@Archetype_Earthy]

It's Canon

[@Glox846]

Its Canon

[@Riley.AM.]

canon and asta isnt uni

[@Ok-uw3jq]

Asta is barley planetary lmao. Black clover isnt even near solar system

[@itachi-weasel]

Saying "Quite a lot" when it only 1 vague one is pretty weird to be

[@thmistrapillay1811]

In a fight💀💀💀 Boruto shitstomps asta

[@lzenonx]

if u think boruto winning ya delusional

[@KingBullet123]

Leave it out man

[@Archetype_Earthy]

If you think any Black Clover character is winning then you haven't seen Naruto/Boruto because this isn't a fight it's a massacre

[@POKERFACESOCIOPATH]

​@@Archetype_EarthyHow it is a massacre can you people tend to explain becauae black clover is literally underrated In power scaling 90% of the people does not even know all of the scaling meta within black clover In the data book Cover page of volume 16 Zagred His stated to transcend the very concept of space and time itself If this is not enough the tree of quliptoth Is considered to be dimensionally separate from time and space Which Connected a whole damn multiverse together Even mereleona If stated to transcend metaphysics Now tell me how boruto characters are Even standing a chance here

[@olivergacu295]

Current asta in the manga slams fr

[@rlserik3751]

Stop it , no he doesn’t, boruto got to many haxs , way better hand 2 hand fighter , more smarter and better ap . They fought 10 times boruto would win most likely all of em

[@NarutoVerse792]

Current base Boruto solos black clover.

[@PLUS-ULTRA666]

​@@NarutoVerse792current base Asta slams boruto+Verse

[@NarutoVerse792]

@@PLUS-ULTRA666 Asta is a base adult naruto victim. He gets slammed by any otsutsuki clan member.

[@PLUS-ULTRA666]

@@NarutoVerse792 burhh base adult Naruto is literally base yuno victim And a random devil in black clover>boruto verse lol

[@Arjun-kz1ji]

I AM BRITISH LOL (no hate just jk)

[@doumbiakiatou3660]

Boruto kekke genkai ranton

[@Suleimanpillay]

Boruto is a genius i agree so in terms of battle strategy he wins but Speed asta slams i believe its a deciding factor here because boruto has no speed feats as of yet minato was fast but speed of light is not a feat(the creator of black clover has done a shonen about science and its only logical to assume that he knows the speed of light he used) ive seen in that show and i would guess boruto is faster than minato but hes not lighspeed astas speed is nuts then in strength asta weakness has been hand to hand if you know how to fight boruto would wash him in that but because of astas raw strength again no contest its like conner mcgregor fighting the mountain from game of thrones i mean in terms of power scaling i mean

[@itachi-weasel]

Bro you are talking out of your mind Naruto verse is way past light speed even from shippuden Even in part 1 there are characters like haku who can move at light speed to itachi who can outright outpaced his own light speed attack And he is also pretty consistent with his light speed Like Being able to react to kirin which moves at light speed at the verge of death There is also raikage who moves at light speed while holding back Who got blitz by KCM1 Naruto which was calc to be 88x times faster than raikage Making even KCM1 Naruto FTL+ And with KCM2 making him even faster and with SM on top of that making him at least 10x faster Which means KCM+SM Naruto is at least 880x FTL reaching the mftl speed Than with SPSM and KCM making Naruto 8800x FTL since KCM is bigger amp than SM which is 10x Means teen so6p Naruto is at least MFTL+ But since most people don't like multiplier In boruto Momoshiki was absorbing chakra from beyond his dimension which consists of starry sky and the closet star to us other than sun is Proxima Centauri which is at 4.3 light years away And since the chakra at most have took 20 sec since that's how long he was absorbing the chakra means The chakra was at least moving at the speed of 6,650,000x times the speed of light And since sasuke was able to perceive it means his perception is higher than that but code some one who have higher perception than sasuke got blitz by boruto Means boruto at the very least is around 6 million times faster than light And even in raw strength boruto have way more strength than asta as he can easily hang with character like code who have way more strength than momo who have multi SS raw strength

[@Manga_Debates]

@@itachi-weaselasta is billionsxftl,trillionsxftl, infinite, or immeasurable honestly 😁

[@itachi-weasel]

@@Manga_Debates can you tell me his feat? That puts him at that level of speed?

[@muzanjackson7123]

Yeah base asta shits on Boruto

[@justinwhaley1288]

Current Boruto negs

[@quraishvlogs3471]

boruto farts on asta

[@incogni.bro3957]

Sarada vs noelle

[@Archetype_Earthy]

Unfortunately Noelle has better feats rn

[@RiazAhmed-cr1re]

Noelle lol. What's sarada gonna do? Use a chidori, throw those yellow lightning balls? Until I see her ms ability, she ain't sh one bit.

[@Archetype_Earthy]

@@RiazAhmed-cr1re she literally can copy abilities that's about it she has decent stats too Noelle shooting water? Bruv your basically saying the latter can't do the same but ofc Noelle wins An Uchiha can be powerful without relying on ms lol

[@incogni.bro3957]

@@RiazAhmed-cr1re sarada a better h2h, physically stronger, has genjustu fought and out smarted a kara member

[@Archetype_Earthy]

@@incogni.bro3957 fax

[@iminzayn5442]

W

[@astaroth4418]

Constellation travel aaah feat

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

I'll probably give Asta a slight advantage in speed, because FTL was very early on in the series with him becoming hundreds of times stronger before the time skips, and after his base forms far stronger than Asta before leaving the Clover kingdom, then you have the crazy buff from his devil union. His base form was able to do well against the wizard king’s evil half with the full power of Lucifero, and with the power of his siblings with their devil powers, so Pasta had another massive buff before the arc even began, and when he went to early Japan (the name gave that away), he had a few massive boosts, with most on screen, and the last one off-screen. As for power, I'm going with Asta, the dream world was stated to be infinite, with Magma saying that's impossible, but the user of the power stated that it was. You could say Yami destroying it was through hax, but in the series, even anti-magic will not work unless the user has enough power to cancel it out.

[@nandomo5209]

The dream world is a *"Dream"* So obviously all things who exist in this was not real, Dorothy cant make theses things outside in her dream world so yeah. Asta is still planet level. But probably agree with the speed that Asta gets this advantage.

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

@@nandomo5209 you are literally teleported there, her creations are real. It's the power of the user's dreams, and thoughts becoming real. It's not some genjutsu, you are actually there.

[@Archetype_Earthy]

@@ginnungagapabyss5639 spartial manipulation which Yami cut pocket reality Manipulation She can't do the same thing outside that

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

@@Archetype_Earthy it's a universe-sized realm she can freely manipulate, it would be retarded to reduce it to creating things in the real world that's like Kaguya using the elements of her realms on earth, nerfing herself to the max.

[@Archetype_Earthy]

@@ginnungagapabyss5639 kaguya realms are separate time spaces or parallel worlds not pocket reality Manipulation she was going to erase the entire ninja world (main Naruto universe) & recreating another time space Can Dorothy do that in the main Universe? No Dorothy's dream world it's her pocket reality dream world that's why she manipulate it at will Yami cut it easily with spartial manipulation hax thats the difference between pocket reality Manipulation & an actual separate time space or parallel world/universe Itachi has a pocket reality Manipulation via Tsukuyomi which he has control over Time and space, where 1 second is reduced to your entire lifetime. Tsukuyomi range is universal & a universe Also Naruto shown to have parallel universe like the rtn version of another Naruto

[@astaroth4418]

Boruto ftl caps Asta mftl+ lowball

[@apocrypha5062]

Asta is not mftl+, he's just light speed.

[@astaroth4418]

@apocrypha5062 lmfao 🤣 someone of the weakest forms of characters are minimum ftl

[@zelispeak]

Asta negs

[@TKaz10]

w

[@Niko-yk7zr]

Asta has universal feats via glamor world scaling and he is calced to be at least billions of times the speed of light as he scales above his true devil union in base form vs evil wizard king. Watch Broku's scale of asta to get better details about it as he proves the feats its easier than me commenting it all

[@nobodycandefeatotsutsukigo3730]

We can litteraly say the same thing about Boruto, Hebi Sasuke and Itachi litteraly created a universe with their genjutsu against Orochimaru or the same thing about Kaguya dimensions who are stated to be a parallel dimensions so universal and the Naruto storm series make Kaguya's dimensions universal in size. So yeah if you want to scale Asta at universal with this infinite feats of dorothy which even this is isn't but okay. So Boruto in base form is easily Universal+ or Low Multiversal. Since Kaguya can nuke an entire universal time space with 5 parallel dimensions, would scale her to Universal+ And you have a lot of characters who above Kaguya in Boruto now like so6p Hokage Naruto, Adult Sasuke, Momoshiki, Code, Jigen. And Current Base Boruto is easily stronger than them. So current base Boruto would be Universal+ to low multiversal.. So yeah, even if you wanked Asta at Universal, Boruto still claps him in base without too much difficulty.

[@cjmatrix7366]

By your logic orochimaru is universal 😂😂 ... dimension without any context is scales nowhere

[@itachi-weasel]

I can see speed reaching pretty high no. In BC scales But dorothy is never proven to be universal The fact nobody was even able to prove she scales to her creation shows how vague it to assume she is uni

[@aaronrodriguez9376]

In order to create a universe you need universal levels of power. This is just a fact. So Dorothy is universal. Along with kaguya and anyone stronger than kaguya. Also genjutsu is an illusion so you're not actually creating the real thing. So genjutsu isn't used for power scaling.

[@PLUS-ULTRA666]

Uhhh I am tired of anime BC scalers like use freaking TREE OF QLIPHOTH meta TREE OF QLIPHOTH (BLACK CLOVER COSMOLOGY) Infra-dimensions: The term "infra-dimensions" could be used in an esoteric context to describe planes or realities below conventional dimensions. This could involve ideas of occult realities, spiritual worlds or less accessible levels of existence. It's important to note that these concepts are often linked to specific beliefs and thought systems, and their interpretation can vary according to esoteric or religious traditions. If you have a more specific question about any of these concepts, or would like more detailed information, please don't hesitate to provide further details. The Qliphoth is dimensionally separated from the physical world (THE FIVE-HEDED DRAGON WILL GENERATE A DISTORTION OF SPACE-TIME, LINKING THIS REGION TO HELL), which represents the human world, hence the fact that Hell is the underworld below the physical world. This is one of the reasons why only the Tree of Life can enable the demon to manifest itself in the physical world. The tree of life in relation to the heavens: Malkuth = physical world 9 spheres = 9 heavens There are also 9 infadimensions below the physical world Every Cosmos is linked to: The law of 3 (linked to Kether, Chokmah, Binah) Law 7 (linked to Chesed by Malkuth) Cosmos refers to the Universe and its laws, or, more generally, to the whole universe (is the universe seen as an ordered set made up of hierarchical subsets), so if it's made up of cosmos all separated by the gates, we know that there are several layers within this structure, all dimensionally separated from one another. So we know that we're dealing with a universal world of 9, all dimensionally separated by 7 gates for sevens layers, within the same framework, with their own chronology, given that the time axis is present in each layer. In the 5th paragraph of the Limbo section of the Qliphoth, the existence of the 5th dimension within this structure is inferred. Given that the Limbo is part of the subterranean world, the 5th dimension should apply to the cosmos of the subterranean Qliphoth. But given that each world is dimensionally separated from the other and that there are universal layers superior to the demonic rank all separated by gates, the logic goes that if the demons are inferior to other demons of a layer below superior to their layer above and we link this superiority to the layer then the layer should be but there is no more pepper for that so we induce that each layer will be of 5th dimmension. Qliphoth are Composite Hierarchies? The Qliphoth has layers, as Nacht suggests, each of which contains several dimensions within it. Alternatively, these may be known as metaphysical layers. And the lower demons are so insignificant to the higher demons that they are literally crushed. basically, to a higher-layer entity, the lower entity is so insignificant that it can hardly be called real. General Abilities Demon linked to Qliphoth Higher-Dimensional Existence (5D): Limbo (5D): The limbo is a 5D existence within the Qliphoth and is found within the entire structure linked to the dimensional existence of all demonic rands. Unconventional physiology: Lucifero, a high-ranking (King of Devil) demon linked to the Qliphoth who has a 5th-dimensional Limbo at his disposal, has come into the human universe. We can see that the manifestation of matter would lead to strange behavior on the part of matter in relation to Clover's universe. From the Malkuth we emit that the cosmology of the underworld is dimensionally separate from the physical world as we know it, hros the fact that the physical world is three-dimensional i.e. 3D then the underworld should be lower dimensional? We're talking about two different cosmologies with their own dimensional levels, given that the two multiverses are separate. The fact that it's below the 3D physical world doesn't make it dimensionally inferior, because that's just because its structure is below the physical world, but not dimensionally inferior.