Bosch PBD 40 Drill Press First Look [video 597]

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Peter Millard

Peter Millard

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@StrawbyteWorkshop
@StrawbyteWorkshop Ай бұрын
I reviewed the Scheppach model which is very similar before moving it on to my Son and switching-up to the bosch a few months later - like you managed to bag one in an amazon sale (well below £200 two years ago I might add). I'm sure you're going to get a few comments from folk pointing out that models from Scheppach and Parkside are the same. They are not. Functionally similar, but internally Bosch have gone much further than the budget brands have internally. Notably the Bosch is WAY WAY quieter with way less run out. Has a softer start and the chuck is more reliable. All that said though, if you're constrained budget-wise those non-bosch options are still work a look in my view if you're a woodworker. For me the fact it lives under a bench until I need to use it (mainly door hinges with a custom jig) is the main benefit. Anyway I'm sure you'll enjoy it. K.
@idahoverland_208
@idahoverland_208 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. I can’t get the Bosch in the US without paying a lot more for shipping and then needing to upgrade to 220v, and found a “Scheppach” version here. So far I like the ergonomics much better and can live with the minor tolerances than my other budget Wen pillar drill provides
@Rooster---ooo
@Rooster---ooo Ай бұрын
That answers a question I had. I have the Bosch & wondered if it really was that much different. I'm glad I opted to pay a bit more. It's hard to regret buying quality.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks Karl! That saves me a lot of typing! 😂 👍
@billt.58
@billt.58 Ай бұрын
@@StrawbyteWorkshop Hello, thank you very much for info. Yes I am a wood worker with a budget , so with that being said I am always looking for tools that are reasonably priced 📏📐
@rossbuchanan7632
@rossbuchanan7632 Ай бұрын
@@Rooster---ooo What is worse than finding out you paid too much for a tool? Finding out you didn't pay enough
@LewiUberg
@LewiUberg 2 сағат бұрын
I had this one for years. Love it. I bought a hand crank I guess you might call it (Norwegian). Like the ones for nothing at cheap stores that are meant for stearin wheels. Major upgrade 👍
@richard281150
@richard281150 Ай бұрын
I've had the Bosch drill for a few years now and it's remarkably good, easy to adjust the speed and the depth you want to drill to which is a great help for blind holes for hinge screws etc. It's never let me down and has enough power that it, generally, never slows down the speed when Ising large drills. Best table drill I've ever had. I have a lot of Bosch tools, workshop and garden and love them all.
@matthewgreen9121
@matthewgreen9121 Ай бұрын
@@richard281150 It's a silly point, but I've never been able to work out why it's a "green" Bosch model rather than a "blue" Bosch Professional; it's easily on par with their professional stuff.
@dexarok
@dexarok 28 күн бұрын
@@matthewgreen9121 It has a few precision issues out of the box. A different chuck turns this into a much more precise drill. I'm assuming bosch just put their badge on this, as the Scheppach model is near identical. That could be the reason Bosch doesn't want to associate it with its Blue products, but I agree, it's a great little drill press.
@maximflor
@maximflor Ай бұрын
I have it for about 5 years and it's great. I attached a steering wheel spinner knob to the hand wheel, and it's much more convenient now.
@kkrcko
@kkrcko Ай бұрын
Have you used it with metal ? If you did how did it perform?
@WTFUSERNAM44
@WTFUSERNAM44 Ай бұрын
"Not a project!" just joking
@cobberpete1
@cobberpete1 Ай бұрын
The same. At least 5 years, and with the spinner
@m2menuiserie540
@m2menuiserie540 Ай бұрын
Yes, the wheel spinner knob (or whatever it's called) made a huge difference to ease of use. Cost peanuts.
@minecraftbers
@minecraftbers Ай бұрын
@@kkrckoI used the same model drillpress last week to drill 8 12mm holes in 10mm flatbar. It performed well for a hobby grade machince! My drillbits are really nice brand new spitpoint so that probably helped a lot. It took nice and thick chips!
@stellaspencer-casey2981
@stellaspencer-casey2981 Ай бұрын
Hi Peter , turn the fence around so it's back to you then you should be able to use the hold down. I have the Sheppach version and it works with that .
@bufaisalnasa6099
@bufaisalnasa6099 12 күн бұрын
When I watch this man explain, I find that he has fun, is well-mannered, and is close to the heart
@steverdooley
@steverdooley Ай бұрын
I have had one for about 5 years and it is quite satisfactory for light woodworking use. As Peter says, the clamp is useless - gets in the way more often than it is used. The wheel is irritating when you have to change hand position on a deep drill, but I have never bothered with the knob. A previous review I read suggested the wheel design was to limit the leverage you could exert on what is a relatively light machine. My biggest problem was with chuck wobble and eventually I stripped the machine and replaced the bearings which solved the problem. Somewhere on KZbin there is an excellent video which takes you through the whole process. Love the variable speed and whole depth stop arrangement. Never managed to adjust the lasers to get a sharp accurate cross.
@perh.nrgaard1813
@perh.nrgaard1813 21 күн бұрын
Spot on. I have done the bearing and the chuck replacement on both my PBD40 and Scheppach DP50, it is the exact same gearbox and drive - and the same problems, identical runout and wobble until sorted. The update takes the machine(s) to Bosch blue level, for what to the manufacturer should have been only 3-5€. Absurd cost out on what is the key performance parameter on a drill. The DP 50 has a better internal layout on the wiring, more service friendly really. The return spring is acting up occassionally - but it does go much deeper than the PBD40, which is why I bought it for mid plate drill thru's.
@simong7256
@simong7256 Ай бұрын
I’ve had this for a few years and pleased with the functionality for a bench-top drill that conveniently fits in a cupboard when not in use. I delayed buying because worried about Bosh “green” quality, but have been pleasantly surprised. Rotating the wheel-style handle is awkward for deeper holes so I’ll be trying some of the mods in comments above. My essential accessory is a large offcut of 22mm kitchen worktop (same thickness as the drill table) with large jigsaw’d hole to perfectly fit the drill table into the middle of the worktop, which gives a much larger supported area for larger workpieces. The worktop is easily stored flat in the wood store when not in use.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Great to hear, thanks! 👍
@josephmarc6263
@josephmarc6263 Ай бұрын
I upgraded to this drill about a year ago. It’s a great tool. Nice features. I mounted it high to take advantage of the base being fixed and the drill head moving up and down. Very comfortable to work with. And the speed control is excellent. I confess, I never moved the belts on my old unit but the speed change on this is just turning a dial.
@paulmeynell8866
@paulmeynell8866 26 күн бұрын
Do you have loads of movment side to side hold the Chuck and move it. Most are awful.
@docolemnsx
@docolemnsx Ай бұрын
1:30 The slots on the table are some standard distance apart. I managed to find a vise for this table from a third party, and it had mounting slots the same distance apart.
@kevinthomson6324
@kevinthomson6324 Ай бұрын
Love the idea of the variable speed. Like you I set my drill press on the middle speed and it’s been there forever. Having the digital readout and the ability to set zero on the work piece is an amazing addition for someone who uses calipers way more than he needs to in the wood shop.
@taiqidong9841
@taiqidong9841 4 күн бұрын
Had it for two years, love it.
@chrisfr2286
@chrisfr2286 Ай бұрын
I have had one of these for a few years. The only Bosch too I own and it is very good. The laser centering and work light are very useful. The depth gauge is very good along with the easy speed control. If you are dealing with heavy materials make sure the press is screwed down to you work bench. You won’t regret purchasing this drill press
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Good to hear, thanks! 👍
@JamesV-my9uh
@JamesV-my9uh Ай бұрын
Hi Peter. I've had the PBD40 for about 3 years now. IMO it's a great concept let down somewhat by its Bosch green (DIY grade) construction. Speed controls, depth control, are great but there are also problems. The chuck is dreadful and mine had more runout than I could tolerate. Replaced it with a Metabo Futuro Top keyless chuck that has less runout and works better. The cast alu base flexes under quite modeeate quill pressure. I have tightened the pillar bolt as much as I dare and screwed the base down to my workbench - still flexes under load. The spindle bearing has worn resulting in spindle runout and drill bits wandering. Apparently there is a needle bearing inside the gearbox somewhere that is not up to the task. Some reviewers have upgraded this and I'll need to do it soon. The hold down clamp and fence are rudimentary. Ok for light duty tasks in soft material but not for drilling metals. I've mounted a cross-slide vice on mine. It takes up some space but works better for tasks needing precision. I like it in spite of the issues as these can all be fixed (except maybe the base).
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks! Yes, I would definitely like to see a blue Bosch version of this; that said I’ll be using it exclusively for woodworking and coming from a £50 drill, it’s a step up for me! 👍
@TimWilkinson-u6x
@TimWilkinson-u6x Ай бұрын
Had one for a couple of years - great machine. Worth considering chuck upgrade as per YT video. I also upgraded the wheel with a traditional 3 handle device
@Mekchanoid
@Mekchanoid Ай бұрын
Hi, I hate the feed wheel on this too. Is it possible to buy a 3-point feed handle for it, and if so, what's the make, please?
@PhilPha
@PhilPha Ай бұрын
I’ve got one, haven’t used it that much, however I love it, easy to use and easy just to pick up and store away. I’m sure after using it a few times you’ll feel the same. Some people complain of the accuracy but for me it’s been fine.
@mrpablo42
@mrpablo42 Ай бұрын
I use mine with the UJK drill press table from Axminster with a section of the table at the rear cut away and a couple of flat headed bolts fitted underneath to fit into one of the t-slats on the Bosch table. Had no issues with the chuck as long as you tighten as per the instruction, and the accuracy of the depth functions really shine with the sturdier table addition.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@designandmakeworkshop
@designandmakeworkshop 26 күн бұрын
Great vlog Peter, I’ve had mine for 4 years, it’s always a pleasure to use
@leesampson5902
@leesampson5902 Ай бұрын
Hello Pete I bought one for a RNLI slipway project, because it was nicely mobile.the job involved a largish countersink (M16 bolt)in Marine ply. It managed several holes and still going strong now. I love how easy it is to change speeds, which means you do rather than sometimes not making effort on belt style gearing.
@TimSavage-drummer
@TimSavage-drummer Ай бұрын
I've had one for a few years, was a big improvement over my old pillar drill (your average belt adjustable job). I like: Powerful (for it's size), easy speed control, height adjustment (while different I have come to like), depth stop, onboard light (although not super bright), clamp on board Misses: The chuck can be difficult with hexagonal shafts, only tighten so it stays in or is hard to remove. Annoyances: Can flex if you really drive it, digital depth gauge sometimes resets itself, onboard clamp can get in the way.
@kkrcko
@kkrcko Ай бұрын
Have you used it with metal ? If you did how did it perform?
@TimSavage-drummer
@TimSavage-drummer Ай бұрын
@@kkrcko Mainly on wood, but, I do drill metal occasionally. Being speed controlled it will increase power delivery if the speed starts to slow. I always use a vice or clamps, it will easily take the part out of your hand.
@Mekchanoid
@Mekchanoid Ай бұрын
@@kkrcko I would second the person in this thread who said the feed wheel might be to discourage using the PBD40 with metal, as it is great for gradual feeding but not for adding any significant pressure or lengthy boring.
@alangeorgebarstow
@alangeorgebarstow 28 күн бұрын
Greetings, Peter, from Sweden where I now live. When I built my workshop, around seven years ago, I cut a recess in one of the worktops into which I set my PBD 40 so that the milled top of its base is flush with the level of the worktop. This has proved more than a boon when I am drilling long strips of timber since it eliminates 'rocking' and makes clamping so much more efficient. The keyless chuck took a little while to get used to (a number of bits came loose while in operation) but I think I have worked out how to eliminate that annoyance. I'm old school and I still prefer keyed chucks (and I may still swap mine) but, in the main, it is a lovely pillar drill to use. Best wishes.
@AndyBoyd-wp7ci
@AndyBoyd-wp7ci 24 күн бұрын
I have one of those, very happy with it, I made a lowered fence, simple wood slat with holes, so I could still use the hold down.
@alistaircumming3898
@alistaircumming3898 Ай бұрын
Hi Peter A good review! I went on the same drill press journey 5 years ago. Easy to use, change speeds, adjust heights and depth stops all easily, and a small footprint. The short coming can be easily overcome. Very happy with mine.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks Alistair, good to hear! 👍
@oldman4827
@oldman4827 Ай бұрын
Great machine. Got it too. Same story as yours. Love mine. Note it will keep the speed constant under load.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Good to know, thanks! 👍
@mortenfrederiksen9388
@mortenfrederiksen9388 Ай бұрын
Hi Peter I have the same drill press for some years now, and I am very satisfied with it. Keep on the good videos 👍 Morten from Denmark
@jackhusky9326
@jackhusky9326 Ай бұрын
I’ve had one for years. I like it’s compactness, digital speed/depth control. Can easily move it around if needed. For my uses which are mostly wood projects rather than metal does the job. As some mentioned it is the wheel control which you have to get used to. I would have preferred the “old skool” 3 handle “wheel”.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks; there's a 3-spoke wheel available as an option from 3rd party sellers. 👍
@mururoa7024
@mururoa7024 Ай бұрын
I've had this one for years and have been very happy with it. Never needed more power. I never really liked the clamp, but that's only a minor thing. The continuous speed control and electronic depth gauge are invaluable!
@RorySeanWainer
@RorySeanWainer 29 күн бұрын
I bought the same Bosch PBD 40 on an Amazon sale a few years ago. It's not a high-precision tool but it's very easy to use & does a good of everything I've needed from timber to aluminum & steel.
@VerilogTutor
@VerilogTutor Ай бұрын
I have one of these and love it. I use the fence with the clamp by either raising the piece a little using a scrap under the piece I’m drilling or a block of wood under the clamp. Possibly not accurate enough for precision metal work but I find it perfect for woodwork.
@JulietVorster
@JulietVorster Ай бұрын
This is a great piece of kit. Thanks for sharing.
@thierrymatter3124
@thierrymatter3124 Ай бұрын
I Had one for 5 years. It’ s a good choice.
@wiseoldfool
@wiseoldfool Ай бұрын
Me too.
@melainekerfaou8418
@melainekerfaou8418 Ай бұрын
The Bosch has hidden features that expand the functions long after initial purchase. For instance it took me two years to discover that the chuck has a locking ring. And today (i.e. 3 years in) I accidentally found out that the main red knob doubles as an emergency stop button - lucky I've never had an emergency so far :) Other than occasionally feeling stupid for not having read the manual, I like the machine very much.
@JimmeShelter
@JimmeShelter Ай бұрын
First hidden feature.... the manual. lol
@Mekchanoid
@Mekchanoid Ай бұрын
@@JimmeShelter Yeah, actually the Bosch upgrade paths for this drill seem virtually non-existent. I'd love to upgrade it to a solid steel base that can be clamped from underneath and a slightly taller pillar. And handles instead of the feed wheel. On the bright side, it does allow for a lot of DIY mods.
@Terrythemaker
@Terrythemaker 23 күн бұрын
I absolutely love mine, worth every penny, I think it’s great for the small workshop, the laser and digital display comes in really handy for repetitive tasks, 👍🏼
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 22 күн бұрын
Totally agree! Love the light weight and ease of use too! 👍
@simonhunt7742
@simonhunt7742 Ай бұрын
Hi Peter,had one for 4 years, love it.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Cheers Simon! 👍
@johnsutcliffe3209
@johnsutcliffe3209 Ай бұрын
I bought one of these about 4 years ago. I had never seen anything like it before or since. I don't even see them for sale anymore. I thought I was taking a gamble getting it but I absolutely love it.
@antonoat
@antonoat Ай бұрын
Had my eye on one of these, so will be interesting to see how you get on with it! A vacuum hose of some sort over the work piece will keep things clean and visible! Good luck! Cheers.
@freakent
@freakent Ай бұрын
I have that drill press and love it.
@paultay23
@paultay23 Ай бұрын
Nice one, Had mine 4 years now...love it.
@tomt9543
@tomt9543 Ай бұрын
Though you’re probably aware of it, to eliminate the smoke and strain when using a hole saw, drill a hole with a Forstner bit that slightly overlaps the projected hole saw path. Depending on whether you’re using the inside cutout or discarding it, place the Forstner hole on the waste piece. This gives all the dust a place to escape to, and minimizes friction, thereby eliminating the smoke and binding! Sure wish they sold this machine in the states!
@Mekchanoid
@Mekchanoid Ай бұрын
Have you tried the new generation of hole saws with a circle of carbide blades rather than saw teeth? They are supposed to work more like a forstner, cutting out curls rather than clogging themselves with dust.
@tomt9543
@tomt9543 29 күн бұрын
@ Haven’t tried them.
@Cenedd
@Cenedd 10 күн бұрын
The Bosch Expert Construction Material type? Yes, night and day better. The gullets (gaps between teeth) are much bigger and deeper so the dust has somewhere to get out even in a deeper hole. Cuts a hole rather than just burning the sawdust or constantly withdrawing to clear the dust.
@nobby21165
@nobby21165 Ай бұрын
I bought one of these a couple of years ago and was impressed by its features, but not by the amount of run out at the end of the drill bit. After a week of owning it I stripped the gearbox and replaced the top needle roller bearing with a pair if ball bearing races that actually fitted the shaft. The original needle bearing was about .5mm too big around the shaft, and once it was all back together, the runout/ free-lay had completely disappeared! I’ve been using it daily since then, and had no problems at all! I bought the bearings from Amazon, size 8x12x3.5mm, pack of 5, sourcing map par no. MR128ZZ. cost was about £5. Job took a couple of hours.
@TheLastPharm
@TheLastPharm Ай бұрын
First thing I thought when reading this is why had the manufacturer not improved this design flaw in the QC phase of the prototype if the solution was a simple matter of swapping an inexpensive part? Absolutely baffles my mind sometimes what the heck those so-called product engineers are thinking. Compliment to you, sir, for having the sensibility and skill to fix it yourself 👍
@nobby21165
@nobby21165 Ай бұрын
@ thank you kind sir! I was thinking of sending it back to Amazon, but otherwise it’s an excellent piece of equipment, so I’m glad I didn’t!
@emmetworkshop2829
@emmetworkshop2829 Ай бұрын
Hi Peter. Not a fan of mine. Had it for 6 years. I like the idea and there are definitely some good functions (like the digital gauge and stops). Like others, I put a knob on the wheel which is fine (just an old hand drill side knob bolted in). The inbuilt clamp doesn't get much use. The main issue is that the chuck wobbles on the way down on contact with the material. It seems to mostly right itself into the cut, but it's pretty disconcerting if you're concerned about consistency and accuracy. I hadn't thought about changing the chuck as others have, so maybe I'll give that a go. Hope you like it.
@Rooster---ooo
@Rooster---ooo Ай бұрын
Excuse me if I'm barking up the wrong tree, but are you locking the bottom lever? IE is it the whole head wobbling on the shaft or just the chuck while everything else is solid? It took me longer than I'm proud of admitting to work out the correct function of the two side levers. Just an idea. No offence if you're not as daft as me ;)
@emmetworkshop2829
@emmetworkshop2829 Ай бұрын
@ No offence taken. Perfect possible I'm dafter. I'll look into it. Never really stopped to study what was going on - it's just clear that the bit comes away from the centre line on the way down. Thank you so much for leaning in.
@АлтынбекДюсембаев-л5ь
@АлтынбекДюсембаев-л5ь Ай бұрын
@@emmetworkshop2829 problem not in the chuck, if wobble bothers you change needle bearing to normal ball bearings.
@gregpar
@gregpar Ай бұрын
By adding a bolt to clamp the post the drill press can drill off the table This has been very useful for drilling into projects where the table can be clamped down or even stood upon to very neat 90 degree drill holes into a floor for instance.
@Mekchanoid
@Mekchanoid Ай бұрын
Say more! Where do you add the bolt?
@gregpar
@gregpar 23 күн бұрын
@@Mekchanoid There is a grub screw on the back of the post that keeps it from rotating. I replaced this with the bolt. There is also a locating pin which I lift the post to clear and then I can rotate to any position I want and lock it in place with the bolt.
@Mekchanoid
@Mekchanoid 23 күн бұрын
@gregpar Oh yes, I get what you mean now. I really wanted to build an extended pillar but have never managed to source the tubing. But I just saw this week that the card readers in our car park are mounted on the same tubing so it must be available somewhere.
@christycullen2585
@christycullen2585 Ай бұрын
Great Video Peter I am sure you will come up with a great idea on how to improve the base and clamp the work piece
@charleswatson5313
@charleswatson5313 Ай бұрын
I bought one of these when I downscaled my little atelier. Perfect for me. Highly recommend it.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Great to hear, thanks! 👍
@mironfs1
@mironfs1 Ай бұрын
I wanted one for years, bought one barely used for 150€. Used it few times and i love it. Using forstener bits is so much better than free handing. With proper rpms too
@rich8037
@rich8037 Ай бұрын
I'll buy practically anything with a Bosch badge on it. The firm's stuff just seems so consistently well designed, well made, and reliable. Washing machine, fridge, car brake parts... And I'll probably buy myself one of these because it just looks like the exact kind of thing that will serve my needs. BTW, a tip for anyone soldiering on with a super-budget drill: my old boss bought one and upgraded it like anything simply by changing the bearings, at a cost of £10 or something like that and a little over an hour's work.
@Mekchanoid
@Mekchanoid Ай бұрын
Just note that Bosch has two tool ranges, the blue professional range and the green for home. In my experience the green range tools are a lot less versatile and have poorer materials than blue. For example my green range router, despite being a big, beefy thing, can't be mounted in a table, which means it's limited in its ability to do precision work. My green range sander burns through velcro pads way too fast - I ususally fit a new one before every bigger job. The cost is too much. And it's not like I'm sanding boat hulls all day, this is just from sanding a couple of meters of spruce board.
@rich8037
@rich8037 Ай бұрын
@@Mekchanoid Useful information, thanks.
@martijnfransen9933
@martijnfransen9933 Ай бұрын
Hi Peter, great piece of equipement. I have it for a year now and am very happy with it. Enjoy
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks Martijn, that's great to hear! 👍
@jeremyc7786
@jeremyc7786 Ай бұрын
Oh to have a workshed! I have a nice selection of handheld power tools but would love one of these, a router table, band saw, lathe, etc etc etc
@PeterVerhas
@PeterVerhas Ай бұрын
I started hobby woodworking 3 years ago. Now I have those. I built the router table, lathe. I bought recently the 80$ scheppach bandsaw.
@scalewarmachines
@scalewarmachines Ай бұрын
I would say it’s quite compact for storage and though somewhat heavy is easily moveable to a job site, out door work or garage etc. I sometimes move it to my lock-up garage for noisier or messy work. Definitely worth buying and storing for occasional al use. It’s not a hand held tool of course but it doesn’t need to be a static tool either. Thought that might help you. It is incredibly useful!
@davedaniels8211
@davedaniels8211 Ай бұрын
Hi , we moved house 10 years ago with a double garage (UK) as I owned an Alfa Spider . When that got sold , and no longer scratching the itch with classic cars , I turned one half into a woodworking area . Over the last 3 years , I've purchased new / old machines , been given 2 different bandsaws , and lots of - mainly Black and Decker - corded tools . It's amazing how machine tools get outdated or upgraded but still do a job . My wife calls it my happy place . My neighbour gave me a parkside lathe which I haven't used yet .
@andyc972
@andyc972 Ай бұрын
Thanks Peter, I'll be very interested to see what changes you make over time, it's basically fine as is but certainly some improvements could be made to the fence and work-holding. I too bought one on sale a couple of years ago for very similar reasons and it's been great doe what I purchased it for, I also run a 750watt floor standing pillar drill which is great but this is more convenient for repeat tasks and has the advantage of being portable !
@andyk9685
@andyk9685 Ай бұрын
You bought a beautiful drill, you will be happy. And opinions? Everyone has their own. I have mine BOSCH and I am super happy.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Totally agree, thanks! 👍
@normanboyes4983
@normanboyes4983 Ай бұрын
Good review Peter. I have had mine five years and it has been fine - I have never had the problems so often reported with it, and I do find the hand wheel perfectly acceptable as it is without feeling the need to modify it. BTW when I am using the fence I tend to put on t’other side of the bed and away from the clamp.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks Norman! I always feel I should be pushing the work into the fence, though I suppose if it's clamped then it doesn't matter!
@JuanAristi
@JuanAristi Ай бұрын
Love your vids! Keep them coming!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks! Will do! 👍
@dazlaa1641
@dazlaa1641 Ай бұрын
Im really not sure why alot of people bash this unit for the chuck runout etc, its a diy tool not intended for a machine shop if your looking for max percision this isnt for you spend more money. For its intended use DIY\hobbist this machine is fantastic and more than adequate i picked mine up 2nd hand and its excellent, perfect no but gets the job done and not having to fuss with belts etc is the best feature by far.
@brianjenkins7989
@brianjenkins7989 Ай бұрын
Hi Peter, I have one of these for eight years or so. Very pleased with it. It does what I need. I will be interested to see your ideas for a bigger base and fence. Like others I fitted a knob on the wheel to make it easier to use..
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks Brian! Yes, interested to see how it works out for me longer term! 👍
@SteveZodiac777
@SteveZodiac777 Ай бұрын
Good review. I've had one for a couple of years and find it works very well.
@nordvesterdalmodelrailroad
@nordvesterdalmodelrailroad 26 күн бұрын
bought mine on a sale for 120$ three years ago. Best deal ever
@DamianDArienzo
@DamianDArienzo Ай бұрын
This is an excellent drill. All tools have shortcomings and yes, chuck may have some wobble (yours does not appear to) and the laser can be adjusted easily. 3d printed a handle, feels good. My wobble was minimal so long as the brad point has a starting position (punch) never had an issue.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks, good to hear! 👍
@brucelee3388
@brucelee3388 Ай бұрын
The first generation of Bosch drills like this ( smaller/skinnier head casing, no laser) were reported to suffer from excessive runout (wobbly drilling) Its nice to see they have listened and improved their product. I still prefer a table that you can get under for clamping to while the base is bolted down, but that just may be me and the projects I work on.
@fafhrd0023
@fafhrd0023 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the review, interesting kit. Would be interested in accuracy of the laser cross, and run out of the chuck. Maybe a closeup of it drilling with a small diameter bit (1mm .. 3mm)?
@Tekninentyo
@Tekninentyo 28 күн бұрын
Greetings from Finland. You could use small 15-20mm plywood piece under that pilar clamp and then it would grab thinner materials and with thicker pieces that's ok as factory settings. 👍😊 I love that digital depth metering feature and the cross laser. 🤩
@stevecumberlidge2245
@stevecumberlidge2245 Ай бұрын
Great review, I bought one a few months ago for the same reasons. I think it’s perfect for my needs. It’s so easy to use.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Totally agree!
@kookyflukes9749
@kookyflukes9749 29 күн бұрын
I like you was looking at this for a while at £280 and got mine on a black Friday deal for £219. Pretty pleased with it's weight. The laser. The table. The power. Not so pleased with the handle. Might change it for a tri star type handle. The main reason I bought it was the ability to change speeds without the belt changing faff. Just a simple dial in 10 seconds. I really like the drill except the handle which I'll change up
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 29 күн бұрын
Exactly the same here! Still undecided about the wheel, would prefer a 3-spoke but want to be sure it bothers me enough before I change it. No issues with runout or vibration - see my short on that - and love the fact that it's lightweight and easier to move around. 👍
@blainerobinson5389
@blainerobinson5389 Ай бұрын
I, too, just want something that works. Thanks for making these kinds of videos.
@MikeMohawk
@MikeMohawk Ай бұрын
Got it for a few years already, great machine! Fun fact: You can rotate the drill on the pillar so you can drill very accurate and straight holes into large sheets. Just clamp the base or make it heavy with some weights on top of it. (DIY MFT table? ;) )
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Ooo, great to know, thanks! 👍
@sawdustwoodchips
@sawdustwoodchips Ай бұрын
Peter, I’ve had mine for three years and it has worked great. Of late it has started to ‘whine’ at the higher speed. But overall I love it!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Good to know, thanks! 👍
@Mekchanoid
@Mekchanoid Ай бұрын
Trigger warning. I built some sturdy clamps to sit it on its back and pretend it's a lathe, just to make a couple of quick wardrobe knobs with a thin turning chisel. It worked. Then I bolted an M12 pillow block with a spike in the middle to an oak board, screwed that to the base, centred it and with this improvised live centre made some 12cm oak tubes I needed. With light tooling it coped without a flinch. I wouldn't start with a square blank and attack it with a 1-inch turning chisel in the high torque gear as I suspect it would promptly explode. I have some 46mm steel pipe that I want to use to build a taller pillar at some stage, but will probably need to machine a longer rack too so that will be fun. I don't know if you used Sinar monorails in your work, Peter, but they have a nice system for extending the monorail which might work for this. But more probably not - Sinars weigh a lot, but I don't think they exert anything like the same force on the monorail as everyday drilling does on the a drill pillar. But it would be a more user-friendly solution for occasional long-bit drilling than swapping out the entire pillar. Needless to say I only started all this reckless stuff well after it was out of warranty.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 29 күн бұрын
Wow, great info thanks! Yes, I had Sinar back in the day and agree it was a good system for extending the rails. 👍
@markfrancis4756
@markfrancis4756 Ай бұрын
wish I had seen this. Will have to wait for the next one. Thank you Peter.
@stevewild777
@stevewild777 Ай бұрын
Mine arrived today. Seems like a nice bit of kit. So far so good.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Enjoy it!👍
@dexarok
@dexarok 28 күн бұрын
I agree with your comment about the T-slots, but with one caveat. They don't need to move those further apart, they just need a couple of additional slots. Those two are positioned the way they are, so you can attach a drill press vise. Bosch make one for it, that's really perfect for precision work, but many others will fit also. If you find some runout in yours, there's a dude on youtube who recommends a replacement chuck. I did mine first thing, and it helps with reducing runout.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 28 күн бұрын
Thanks, there's no runout on this one. 👍
@davidiand7
@davidiand7 Ай бұрын
I am occasional woodworker, I bought a very similar drill from Lidl two years ago (Parkside) it works fine.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
See Karl from Strawbyte's pinned comment at the top; they're visually similar, but that's where it ends. 👍
@ctmurray
@ctmurray Ай бұрын
I purchased this as my first drill press. I used it to to drill hidden hinges for a kitchen remodel - which you helped me with (Thanks again). I wanted this for the adjustable speed, the digital depth gauge, laser pointing to the drill location and its size. It your first example discussing the fence, with the fence interfering the hold down clamp, could you have reversed the fence and had it closer to you, on your side of the arbor? Then the fence and the hold down would work. This would work for narrower pieces. Great job on the review as always.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks! Yes, reversing the fece is an option for narrower pieces, it just feels wrong to me to have the fence that way around - though according to the manual I haven't read, it is the 'correct' way to use it! 🤷‍♂️
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations Ай бұрын
What a fantastic tool, Peter! 😮 Congrats!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks, you too! 👍
@chrisnagy
@chrisnagy Ай бұрын
Hi Peter. I've been looking at these, mainly because of the smaller size. From all the reviews I've seen, the two main issues people complain about are the chuck wobble and the handle. A steering wheel knob can added to the handle to help (Temu Item ID CN581658) or a 3D printed one, Plus the chuck can be be replaced with a better quality version from Rohm (SUPRA-S 1/2"-20 Quick-action Drill Chucks - 871050). Zoro was the cheap place I found it.
@Size15s
@Size15s Ай бұрын
Hark at you with your fancy steering wheel knob. I use a short length of broom handle cable-tied on. That is a great suggestion BTW - I'll give that a try!
@Rooster---ooo
@Rooster---ooo Ай бұрын
Hi Chris, I added one of those steering wheel knobs for deep plunges as a I'm not a huge fan of the wheel but once you get used to it, it's not that big of a deal. Just an odd design choice. Personally, I've had zero issues with the chuck. Snug the bit into place and then turn the locking band & nothing has ever wobbled or come loose. Quick & easy operation. Perhaps for drilling thick steel it could become an issue but if I was doing that kind of work regularly, I'd probably buy a more substantial press. I do not regret buying this at all. Very user friendly overall.
@chrisnagy
@chrisnagy Ай бұрын
@@Size15s 🙂I'm all for inovation, but these days a broom handle and cable ties probably costs more than a steering wheel knob from China!
@l00kns33
@l00kns33 Ай бұрын
I've also looked at this one but am a little worried about the spindle/chuck play and column flex that has been reported by other youtubers.
@Size15s
@Size15s Ай бұрын
​@@l00kns33I worried about this too, based on some reviews, but mine has been great for the accuracy I've needed. Measure with micrometer; mark with chalk; cut with axe.
@michaelevemy1467
@michaelevemy1467 Ай бұрын
Peter I"ve had mine about 4 years and added a table also a Rohm Supra-S 871050 which cost about eighty pounds from Amazon, which is expensive but makes a big difference. Look forward to seeing your. improved table..
@conlethoc
@conlethoc Ай бұрын
+1 for the Rohm Supra, a must have upgrade
@fafhrd0023
@fafhrd0023 Ай бұрын
Can you say what technical differences the upgrade makes?
@philbaker1085
@philbaker1085 Ай бұрын
You can put the fence at the front and use the clamp, if need be.
@mrmjspencer
@mrmjspencer Ай бұрын
Yeah, just checked the instructions to mine and it shows the correct positioning of the fence to use the foot clamp. Good video though as always
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
That's not the 'correct' positioning if I want the fence at the back though! 😂
@MarkSteenbakkers_CzD
@MarkSteenbakkers_CzD Ай бұрын
Almost bought this one a year back when I thought my old trusty Metabo drill press was dead. This still looks like a good option for when that one kicks the bucket, looking forward to your thoughts after using it a while.
@ColinKlupiec
@ColinKlupiec Ай бұрын
Why haven’t I seen this tool before? This looks like a great alternative to the old design which has been around forever. I even sold my pedestal drill with massive table because in the end it was just too big and irritating. Thanks Peter.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Have to confess I hadn't realised they'd been around for quite so long, 5 or 6 years! I've only been aware of them fairly recently. 👍
@iandavies1976
@iandavies1976 Ай бұрын
got one 2 days ago loving it at moment but yes the tracks for the fence are 2 close together got a eclisp 4inch drill vise and it wont fit central to the chuck also got it for £220 on black friday
@logik100.0
@logik100.0 Ай бұрын
I have one only issue I have is no reverse. I will add I have used it to make friction holes in stainless steel.
@garyhenderson9303
@garyhenderson9303 Ай бұрын
Also just purchased this Bosch PBD on Black Friday, have not unboxed yet though. Replacing my old dated Parkside. Wanted something lighter, modern and easy to change speeds on. Have purchased in advance a steering wheel Knob on Temu to make operating easier. Will be upgrading to a larger multi function plywood table using the two slots in the Ally table. I look forward to seeing your upgrades.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Sounds good! 👍
@akbychoice
@akbychoice Ай бұрын
The fab shop I worked at in the 80’s had a drillpress that was originally belt driven off a main shaft that powered many other tools. It came from a gold dredge. It had been converted to run on an electric motor that powered a three speed car transmission.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Yikes! Wouldn’t want to get my hands near that! 😯👍
@Cianan-vw1lb
@Cianan-vw1lb Ай бұрын
Lucky you! I wanted that drill press the first time I saw it. It's the perfect size for the bench. I was heart broken to find that Bosch doesn't sell it in the U.S.
@PeterVerhas
@PeterVerhas Ай бұрын
On the other hand you have sawstop, which starts to sell in Europe only now.
@davidbacon776
@davidbacon776 Ай бұрын
Great review Peter, I look forward to your improved table video for it in a few months time!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@davidquirk8097
@davidquirk8097 Ай бұрын
You could put the fence between you and the workpiece. That way you could use the work clamp too. I bought my Ajax drill knowing I'd have to do some work on it but knowing also that the quill shaft would be better than average.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
You could, but it always feels weird to me, that way around. 🤷‍♂️👍
@martinsvensson6884
@martinsvensson6884 Ай бұрын
I usually just put some piece of board under to raise the work piece if fence is in the way of the clamp. I've probably had mine for about 10 years now. Had to expand a hole in the chuck and thread it to get a bolt in to be able to release the tool after using a big hole saw once. Couldnt get it lose with my hands. But it worked getting an m8 bolt in there as a lever. The display is pretty much dead now though. Which limits some of the use. I'm not really dependant on that though. Its possible they have updated that display since I bought mine.
@mrector23
@mrector23 Ай бұрын
There’s nothing like it in the US market at the price.. so imported one and love it!
@simonchetwynd
@simonchetwynd Ай бұрын
Had mine about 2 years now and didn’t know you could switch from rpm to mm on the display 🤣. Thank you for that. I upgraded the chuck on mine as the standard one isn’t very good for holding small drill bits. Run out is way better than a cheap drill press with fully and belt drive.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
No problem, and good to know, thanks! 👍
@reservisor
@reservisor Ай бұрын
Hey Peter, you finally converted! I swapped to this from a parkside version and did not look back. 3D printed three lever turn handle works a bit better for me. But I would not claim replacing the weel was that critical. Enjoy yours! Looking forward for your no-project videos about it.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks! Will do! 👍
@StevePotter
@StevePotter Ай бұрын
Have been using this about 5 years and love it. Warning: Treat the bottom red handle very carefully (make sure it is seated before tightening) or you will ruin its splines. It took months of runaround with BoschUK to get mine replaced under warranty.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks, I'll watch out for that!
@StevePotter
@StevePotter Ай бұрын
To clarify, this handle has a little spring in it that allows you to pull it off the internal splines to reposition it. The spring is supposed to snap it back onto the splines, but it is too weak, and you must actively push it back onto them before torqueing the handle.
@PeterVerhas
@PeterVerhas Ай бұрын
@@StevePotterit is very typical German engineering. I had east German cars. It is the same, made by engineers for engineers. You have to understand how it works not to ruin it. When you know how to open and close it it works.
@LonelyDogBarking
@LonelyDogBarking Ай бұрын
The clamp’s ‘trick’ is to lift it at the backside of the column when you want to raise it, and to lift it at the front tip it when you want to lower it. Once you got it, it becomes fun ;)
@scalewarmachines
@scalewarmachines Ай бұрын
Hi Peter, hope you are well, had one of these for 3 years or so. Like you, I waited and got it for a good price on Amazon on a killer BF deal. Been very happy with it. Added a steering wheel knob thingy to the wheel and otherwise been great. Downsides are probably the work piece holder and the two stage lowering mechanism is a bit hard to work out (I still get baffled by it but eventually get it to work). The collar on the chuck seems a bit plastic-y but it’s undeniably quick and efficient. Works well with both wood and metal for those looking for a metal-working drill press as I was curious about that dual use when searching. Have a great weekend!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks Martin! There are some very mixed reviews about it, but it looks like it will do the job for me, and great to hear that it works for you too! 👍👍
@scalewarmachines
@scalewarmachines Ай бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop As an alternative to a traditional pillar drill, its features match exactly what I wanted. I watched all the reviews too before buying, I think it has been perfect for what I do and never had any problems with accuracy or runout, but machinists type work you may need to change the chuck assembly. For woodworking or basic metal work it is great. I would really miss it TBH - I love it.
@dougsaunders8109
@dougsaunders8109 Ай бұрын
Looks perfect for the type of work you want to do on it. Like most things it is horses for courses. I really enjoyed sourcing an old drill press. New bearings and belt, should last forever, but as you say it was a project
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks Doug; yes, those were my thoughts exactly! 👍
@markgeezey1809
@markgeezey1809 Ай бұрын
Hi Peter, it is a really good drill press and the speed control on both settings is so accurate as is the depth setting control and options. I have never had issues with chuck wobble so not sure if others are a bit unlucky and you can make many stands for it so it allows much bigger pieces of work to be done on it. Just You Tube it🤣. However one thing you must do is change the wheel as I did for a traditional three spoke handle. Makes such a difference and a guy on ebay in Germany makes them to fit perfectly and didn’t cost much. Had mine for a couple of years now and no issues whatsoever. Bisch, Basch, Bosch has a good video on it. 👍
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks! I think Bisch Basch had the Scheppach. 👍
@markgeezey1809
@markgeezey1809 Ай бұрын
Sorry Peter it was Manor Wood I was thinking of. 🤣 Nice bench he installed it into. 👍
@Sol-hl2rj
@Sol-hl2rj Ай бұрын
I’ve had one since they came out many years ago. It’s brilliant! Some complain about slop in the bearing. But I have found that once you apply downforce the axle centers in the bearing and it’s virtually slop free. Try pushing the chuck upwards while moving side to side compared to moving the chuck side to side without pressing upwards. I’ve drilled holes in the wheel, threaded 8mm aluminium rods and attached 3 ball equipped handles. Works great!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
Good to hear, thanks!
@emmetworkshop2829
@emmetworkshop2829 Ай бұрын
@@Sol-hl2rj yeah, i think that's what's going on with mine (see earlier comment).
@wirelad1
@wirelad1 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the review Peter. Perfect timing, I'm also looked at one of these but £300 is a bit too much for me. I'm waiting for Black Friday, Boxing day and January sales... £200 might just make it. If its good enough for Peter Millard, that's good enough for me!!
@mikeenglish7063
@mikeenglish7063 Ай бұрын
Scheppach do a much cheaper one. Also lidl / aldi knock out cheap copies now znd again
@matthewgreen9121
@matthewgreen9121 Ай бұрын
I set an alert on Amazon and got one that has been returned. Nothing up with it, but £100 saving for me
@mikeenglish7063
@mikeenglish7063 Ай бұрын
@@matthewgreen9121 bargain
@PeterEmery
@PeterEmery Ай бұрын
I learned about a fellow who sells a 3-D printed free-spinning knob that attaches to the depth wheel making it much easier to use.
@jimbo2629
@jimbo2629 Ай бұрын
I’m happy with mine. The main problem is sawdust accumulates at the base of the fence and has to be constantly brushed away. Adding a slightly elevated secondary fence would solve this.
@Mekchanoid
@Mekchanoid Ай бұрын
I've had mostly good experiences with this drill over the five years since I bought it and it continues to be a reliable a decent-performing machine. I doubt if Bosch are in any hurry to update it, but for my money they should really stick a dust port in it somewhere. Would save me another visit to the eye clinic! I've seen people attach a hollow DIY tray under the base with a dust port, so there's a solution, but I prefer to use a 2" solid hardwood block under mine for extra stability and wish there was a built-in option. Like many others, I found the original chuck too wobbly, upgraded to a Rohm Supra. The runout is better, not perfect, but making any changes inside the machine is beyond my tech abilities right now. I'm fine with this because this drill is not designed for jobs like deep boring anyway, the pillar being too short to accept long bits (forget about your 9 inch auger) when used with the base. Oh, and when doing any longer drlling, I find the feed wheel gives me pins and needles in my hand, so that can't be good, and it's not something I've experienced with traditional feed handles.
@kennethnielsen3864
@kennethnielsen3864 Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@p3asa
@p3asa Ай бұрын
Thanks for the informative video as usual Peter. Like you, I snapped one up on the black Friday sale. Having never had a drill press before, I wasn't sure what to expect but did expect no wandering of the drill bit. If I drill a whole and then try and drill another right next to it, the bit attempts to wander into the previous hole. The chuck with a drill bit in it, rattles from side to side when I'm manually trying to shake the bit. Its probably only moving less than a hairs width but it seems and sounds like its quite extreme. Still in 2 minds whether to return it as faulty or persevere and eventually swap out the chuck. It maybe doesn't help that my bits aren't the best.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
I dont appear to have that issue, but honestly I'd return it if I had that level of play. They do appear to have some quality control issues. 👍
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