BOSS OC-5 + SYB-5 = Chord Roots for Monophonic Synths

[@guiom77]

Excellente vibes ‼️ merci

[@westchapelsyndicate3712]

I found myself playing what could only be described as house/techno music on my guitar recently, and finding someone else doing similar stuff has been impossible. So stumbling across your channel today was such a relief. Finally, all these answers to questions about pedals that I'd never thought I'd be able to answer unless I bought them and ran the set up myself. Not to mention the playing! It's been quite inspirational

[@davidsummerville351]

Cool stuff 😎🤓

[@GreenhamGuitar]

Why thank you! I need to get back in the lab 😁

[@BossDD3]

What are you using for drums? Seems be to responding to your playing. Excellent channel btw, love to see someone exploring what's possible with some of boss's spicier offerings.

[@GreenhamGuitar]

That was wonderful to read - Thank you! You're right, the drums are responding to my playing since a duplicate of the guitar signal is triggering the hihats/rides in a Roland TM-2 Trigger Module. It's really noticeable when I pluck strings in triplets and the hihats do the same. Then the kick-trigger is a piezo under my scratchplate which I tap as I strum, and the snare trigger is a piezo on the head of my guitar, which my thumb-ring triggers as I strike the neck with it. It's actually easier to just let guitar grooves and beats all move together as my brain is trying to control everything all at once. I used to play percussive acoustic stuff, so this is the evolution of that on electric. Thanks again! I'll be sure to test out more oddities in time... I'm trying to get a Just a BOSS DSD2 or 3 😀(specifically for its "trigger" input), which'd respond even more to my style.

[@pamelatupper9966]

This was great thank you

[@GreenhamGuitar]

My great pleasure! I hope to do more with some other OC-5 combinations soon 😊

[@junkheadyamiken]

2:59 what song did you play? Also i thought of that too but in addition you could feed the octave only signal into a analog octaver down. That gives you a very clean sub octave which equals a lfo at the frequency of you lowest note. Then feed that lfo into a cv to expression converter to match it the exp input of the syb 5. In some modes it will act as a FM synthesizer. And i dont get in your videos why you always dont like this minor imperfections and glitches. It sounds so unique and is unaquireable with any other gear. It is awsome to my ears, taste and philosophy. Thanks!

[@GreenhamGuitar]

Some novel ideas right here, thanks! That song progression was just an improvisation so I was surprised it sounded decent. Now, I'm new to this LFO/CV stuff, but I really want FM! Are you suggesting I feed the OC-5's suboctave into another suboctaver? And only then would it create an lfo at the correct frequncy that when converted to CV and fed as an expression back into the SYB-5, it would produce flippin' FM SYNTHESIS!? That's insanely cool! Can you suggest an LFO to CV converter? Preferably in a 9V stompbox 😁 I think the Source Audio C4 is almost the only pedal with FM. As for imperfections... you're right, so unique. And I love glitch-hop and especially glitchcore, but I think it's just fair to point out to those listening that some notes being heard were unintentional/glitches. Thanks for the ideas! Hope you don't mind my questions...

[@junkheadyamiken]

@@GreenhamGuitar ah i dont have any gear left but my acoustic i went broke 2 years ago. So an lfo is nothing but mono signal wave at very low frequency. You can not "hear" it but can use it to modulate stuff. So if you play a imaginary very low note its the same as a lfo with exception of it containing overtones. An analog octaver is in fact nothing but a synthesizer triggered by your instrument. It is capable to produce any wave at any frequency very clean in the same phase. Sine square... A pitch shifter for instance wont work bc too much glitch and latency. Well now that you got a lfo extracted as the lowest note of your chord you can use it for anything a lfo can be used for. One is frequency modulation. The spaced out thing is that is a dynamic frequency(changable lowest note) will affect a polyphonic signal(the chord). This is some next lvl fm stuff. Let me look up a cv to expression converter. I worry it will is a niche product.

[@junkheadyamiken]

@@GreenhamGuitar yes you got everything right but source audio c4 is monophinc so its not next lvl fm. That song is not only decent but gave me a kickback memory of a cool song so its very cool. Or its so overused and generic but still very cool.

[@junkheadyamiken]

The actual outcome depends on the modes of the syb 5 used. For sure some weird stuff so just take fm as a technical reference not literally. For the converter just search: cv to expression pedal input and read you through endless internet discussions. You might have to dive in some technical eurorack stuff

[@junkheadyamiken]

Ah wait i messed up the syb 5 is monophinc too. But well you will look at any other pedal with expression pedal input with other eyes from now on

[@oceanwolfwon9393]

I tried boss syb 5 and boss sy 1 together it is a perfect combination

[@petougao]

Wooow

[@alastairfoster3955]

So....... if you can do it with a guitar. It might be possible to do it with a bass? Go octave UP and send that to the synth, then dry sig to an amp.

[@GreenhamGuitar]

I would think so! In fact, I recall that I've fed this OC-5 the signal from an EHX Pitch Fork in all sorts of combinations, and it followed the lowest note fine. So, a bass guitar that's pitched up shouldn't be any harder to track than a guitar pitched down. I've also sent the OC-5's suboctave into a Pitch Fork which also was quite usable when playing up the neck or on higher strings. I also used the OC-5 on a whole song with drums and it tracked the bass and kick drum pretty well!

[@ducciocarino9385]

😍🔥😍

[@kianhendrick3794]

wrong chain...i think you should put the SY5 first and then the Octaver

[@GreenhamGuitar]

I'm afraid that will defeat the purpose of trying to get the SYB-5 to cooperate and track accurately while you play full chords. The OC-5 is still feeding the SYB-5 a single suboctaved note despite me playing chords here. That's why the OC-5 is so brilliant with a monophonic pedal. The OC-5 won't interpret the waveforms of the SYB-5 with any real clarity, just muddy octaves if it is placed after. But then again, you could make some good Sludge Metal with that idea!