Hi there! So, an ordinary 1/4inch jack goes into the Vocoder Input, then a stereo 1/4inch to male XLR cable is used to route the Send of the VO-1 straight back into the VO-1's female XLR MIC input. So it's just the magic of an ordinary cable. It's probably an unbalanced signal (blah-blah) but it works! A mono to XLR cable also works. This setup where I use the dry guitar signal from the VO-1's Send output is easier than splitting the signal earlier. Believe it or not, many acoustic guitars use XLR sockets, so it's not just for mics. Nothing is sacred, I guess 😅

Hey that's awesome! I can only assume SY-1 is great with the violin, as even chords are not so bass heavy, and it'll focus well on single-note runs. Fuzz on a violin? That's gonna rock! Fuzz on the Send blended with the Synth is the stuff of an epic soundtrack. Let me know how it goes/went 😁

This is just the most meaningful and wonderful thing to hear! Thank you! I'm all about ideas since I lack the more traditional guitar abilities 😁 Hope I can dream up some other unusual but useful videos soon.

@@GreenhamGuitar I’m not a person who blows smoke so I really do mean it. I just bought an SYB-5 based on the video you did with the vocoder. Now I’ve gotta find a vocoder too. Lol Seriously, your videos have made me reevaluate my own technique, but it’s got me very excited about playing again. What tuning do you usually play in, and do you release music and/or gig a lot?

Thank you! That's just what I needed to hear! Very kind of you. I've actually improved my Hardstyle sound since this, and it's somehow my favourite genre to just practice melodies with. I have a fun video idea to joke that guitarists have finally mastered "Hardshtoyle" with that iconic Hardstyle Masters voice 😅

@@GreenhamGuitar that would be hilarious. you should absolutely go forward with that. but all kidding aside, I have the sy-300 and recently put it on my board, I seen your video on how you explained how to set that sound up. I'll be trying to sneak in some fun sounds like that in my band. you definitely inspired me. :D

That was wonderful to read - Thank you! You're right, the drums are responding to my playing since a duplicate of the guitar signal is triggering the hihats/rides in a Roland TM-2 Trigger Module. It's really noticeable when I pluck strings in triplets and the hihats do the same. Then the kick-trigger is a piezo under my scratchplate which I tap as I strum, and the snare trigger is a piezo on the head of my guitar, which my thumb-ring triggers as I strike the neck with it. It's actually easier to just let guitar grooves and beats all move together as my brain is trying to control everything all at once. I used to play percussive acoustic stuff, so this is the evolution of that on electric. Thanks again! I'll be sure to test out more oddities in time... I'm trying to get a Just a BOSS DSD2 or 3 😀(specifically for its "trigger" input), which'd respond even more to my style.

Hi there! Pardon the late reply... so, it works! Maybe you know this already 😅 I can only confirm thanks to another helpful comment (from youngdeathwagon6089) on this video. You would only have the one mode, so there aren't three flavours like the VO-1 has, but nonetheless, the Iron Lung is quite responsive to different pickups, overtones, pick attack and the distance played from the bridge. You would also need to rely on splitting the signal yourself as the Iron Lung has no Send. I think you could make things very interesting if you used a distortion or an EQ before the MIC and/or INST inputs of the Iron Lung, independently. Do you own one? If not, it might be worth going for the full-on VO-1, unless the price is just not worth it. Lots of other sonic ideas I'll be sharing with the VO-1 in time 😊

Yeah I got an iron lung and it pretty much just sits on the shelf with my talk box but a new way to use it might just spark all kinds of new things.im gonna start making some random crazy ween type songs soon so the more crazy I can get the better

Thanks so much! Can't believe it worked! So, I don't have a bass, but I tried it with the suboctave from a POG before the VO-1 and fed the VO-1's MIC input the same suboctave. It sounds really cool on the "Talkbox" mode; like a squelchy fuzzed out bass with SO much character depending on how you pick and mute (or slap), etc. The other two modes aren't quite as tight sounding, a bit more organ-like. Even more so than in this video - then again the POG always seemed organ-like, so maybe it's that. Still, all modes were cool enough... and hey, it's a fun idea for a new video! So thanks again and stay tuned 😉

Hey, thanks! In this case, it does indeed matter. The price you pay in Poly mode which allows the Attack Decay to individually decay each note is that the processed notes are lossy and full of artifacts like a cheap 64kbps mp3 sample. Most of their definition is lost, but the harmonic content remains! So luckily, that harmonic pitch is all the SY-1 needs to make its own cool, clear synth sound. However, if you put the SY-1 first, then it would degrade that cool synth note into a garbled lossy mp3-ish sound, so the clarity is lost. Switching the Attack Decay into Threshold mode will allow you to place it after the SY and process the SY-1 sound clearly, but of course, you lose the advantage of processing individual notes while others ring out for other pedals to work with them, etc. (like my OC-3/5). Hope that makes sense!

Snap! I was also amazed at first. Electric guitars behave so well... but the same cannot be said when using the same piezo drum triggers on acoustic guitars. Too much resonance and misfiring... even with strict thresholds and cross-talk cancelling. But I will keep experimenting... unless you have an idea to help me? 😅 Percoustix makes a dedicated drum trigger pickguard, which could isolate better and ease some of the crosstalk.

Awesome idea! Please let me know how it goes. I actually achieved a similar stutter effect to the one in this video by running a Pitch Fork into the MIC input (and blending different octaves), but you're idea should yield some great results!

That's a fantastic plan! The iron lung might sound amazing. If you get a chance, please let me know. Since it doesn't have a Send, it's easy enough to split your signal... I used to use their Micro POG (switched off) to duplicate outputs 😁

@@GreenhamGuitar split signal straight into both inputs (with a 1/4 ts to XLR adapter) totally works to get the sound. I don't think the controls offer the amount of voicings the boss does,different tweaks for just the one voice. Picking strings closer and further from the bridge makes a big difference, it has a responsiveness to the nuances of string overtones and pick attack that I think has going for it. Best it can do is different tweaks on just the one voice. But yeah, could be something there

I will also say, I think the difference in response to humbucker/ single coils might also be something worth looking into

Hey, you're right! I also got that vibe. I wish the Pico version had an external trigger like we achieved here by using the Send/Return, but I think only the Malekko Sneak Attack has that.

This absolutely made my day! Thank you! It's definitely a big part of my style - working within the limitations of doing literally everything simultaneously with piezo triggers and guitar pedals, but it's great fun and the only way I get any dopamine from playing 😅 So glad you love it, too. I'll keep rockin' this Trigguitar 😁

Wow! Thanks once again! This setup was one of my favourites. I'm sure I can try evolve it now 😁

Yes! Thanks! There's always room for a Vocoder 😁

Glad you like it! Gabber is a little bit off the average guitarist's path 😅 But it was great fun and I'd like to take it further.

Now that's a stellar idea! It's actually why I bought this pedal! I wanted to recreate techno kicks (particularly Hardcore and Hardstyle 😋). But I only had limited success... Still, there are plenty of other awesome drum applications, so thank you, I'll work with this idea more 😊

It's just the cable I had lying around tbh... same one I'd run from my VE-20 to the VO-1. Not sure if a TS to XLR would affect much since the Send output is presumably mono? I've used the same cable to send stereo drum signals into the MIC input of the VO-1, so I'm glad it's not fussy.

Thank you so much! Hopefully another weird pedal combo will pop into my head soon.

Thanks! Glad to share! Can't believe it's actually a decent sound 😁

You... are a genius. Thanks! I did notice those transients punching too hard and contemplated using the EHX Attack Decay, so that's a fine idea for Part II 💡❤️‍🔥 Much appreciated!