BOSS RE-202 & RE-2 Space Echo [Upgrade From RE-20? And Why Use A Space Echo Anyway?]

[@grahamkelly8299]

Lately I'm thinking, you know what, f the boutique market. The oul boss stuff stands up against them all

[@davedavem]

Shhh 🤫

[@50Something]

They are the Grand Masters after all lad!

[@nekkon1989]

That makes total sense. Why pay three times as much for a pedal that is not even twice as good.

[@scramblesthedeathdealer]

Aside from wahs/Whammy, and a few PSK Boss clones, all of my pedals are Boss, they sound great, look great, and are built tough.

[@willdenham]

And Ibanez.

[@alfgwahigain5544]

I've owned an RE-20 for about 3 years and I'm happy with it. To my ear, I prefer the slight grittiness of the RE-20 to the 202. However, I think they both sound great.

[@aintnothinbutdablues]

The only thing missing on the new 202: The small cool needle indicator from the original! Why didn’t Boss put it there?!

[@sega62s]

because they will do another version with it 😂

[@gbarge4]

Very cool episode. I'm loving the care with production details such as lighting and crafty edits. Too easy to let these go unsung. I was very struck by Dan's comment on sentimental attachment to the old girl. I really get that. The happiness from picking up my first electric while wearing a TPS shirt actually makes me play better. Or so it seems. Cheers.

[@davidjdriver]

I bought an RE-20 two years ago and I just love it. If I end up with some extra money at the end of the month I may buy a 202 but I am in no hurry.

[@artwerkmedia8616]

Love the RE202 because all the videos out there made me discover the Volante. Love my new Volante. Fav strymon pedal ever.

[@nilsx3020]

Super stoked about this episode as I’ve had my 202 for about a month now. I’m really loving it, my first space echo. It really does its own thing.

[@marcofioravanti4176]

Thanks for the comparison! I still have my old, trusty RE-20. To get it even less digital sounding and more "dangerous" I can highly recommend following treatment: (With a little warning, too..! 😀) 1.) Put the RE-20 into the "Long Mode": Less pristine highs, doubled delay time. A "hint" of Lofi, if you will... Fire it up holding "Tap" and keep holding it until the motion LED stops flashing and lights up solid. Turn the "Mode Selector" to "2". Release "Tap" and tap it shortly once again. Ready. ( To go back to the regular "Short Mode" again, do the same, but put Mode Selector to "1".) 2.) Refeed the signal: Put the guitar or synth into Input A, as usual. Go from Output A to Input B! Go from Output B into your DAW or next pedal or amp or whatever: Delay signal gets relatively louder, a bit more saturated and flangey, gets sooner into self oscillation. Warning: Putting the now "phased out" sounding reverb too high results in an unpleasant digital feedback mess! So be careful with the reverb setting!! And now even the reverb is only mono... But, that said: All in all, 1.) and 2.) make the RE-20 giving me a tad more convincing tape delay simulation! I sometimes even back of both tone knobs by a good bit: Less highs, less bass = more mids, not in the way. To having the delays cutting through the mix, go "east" with the treble knob instead. Cheers! Have fun!

[@AndyDemos]

Thanks guys, glad you enjoyed the demo and I love where you chose to go in this one! ✌️❤️

[@stanislavmigra]

Andyyy

[@wadesummers4102]

Surprised to see this episode after you said you had scrapped one during the VCQ. Quick turn around! Bravo. My favorite setting on my Boss DD-200 is the Tape setting. So good. I use the analog setting sometimes but I have a EH Memory Toy and JHS 3 series for true analog.

[@jtcolecomedy]

Dan! Saw the Black Crowes a couple of times last summer and Rich Robinson was Teles/Gretsch into a fleet of AC30s with tape echoes and a treble booster. The sound of ages. A man cut from the same cloth as you it would seem! Absolutely mega sound played loud. Now I have to scrounge the funds for a multi-head echo...

[@tcause]

Headroom of the 201 and the resulting integrity of the core tone. It’s a bit night and day to my ears. Mick, Dan... recording quality/naturalness has really come up a level. Great job.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thank you Tony. We’ve been working on it a while, but this is the first episode ever where there is no post EQ or digital plugins of any kind on the guitars. All straight from the mic pres. Not that we ever did much post… but still. Feels like a small win in our progress! Cheers!

[@Russell_Optics]

Awesome review and comparison, thank you both ! I've had an RE-202 on pre-order for a while now and can't wait for it to arrive. Usually when I pre-order an item I end up having second thoughts while waiting, but with the RE-202 my anticipation gets stronger each day with no second thoughts at all. Great video guys.

[@timothycallahan6234]

So, I just bought a full hollow archtop, an Ibanez AF71, and I was plugged in and playing today and I got a proper standing feedback from it. I started giggling like mad, it was amazing, and fun, and all I was doing was fiddling around with some open chords, and running a bit of drive, a compressor, distortion, and reverb. Great fun! Anyhow, off topic but I just wanted to share. You are quite inspiring. Love seeing that Gretsch, I guess I'm just a sucker for f-hole instruments!

[@ThatPedalShow]

YES! This is awesome Timothy. The feedback giggles!

[@EricSauerets]

Hey All, just one note on the Saturation control on the 202. There is a hidden menu function to have that saturation also applied to your clean signal in addition to the repeats.

[@chedhead3278]

Cheers guys, interesting to hear your take on these. FWIW, I think you made them sound better than I've heard before. I thought the RE-20 stood up pretty well, I'd probably dial the 202 in to sound pretty similar. 201 certainly has the real magic ... until it does a disappearing act, love one in the studio though. Have a nice weekend y'all.

[@andsoistopped]

Dan’s got the Gretsch out. Lovely.

[@ralvknights]

Love TPS. Im hungry for an Overdrive, Fuzz or other fx besides reverb. Loved the feedback dreamy tones of Dan's intro.

[@ColinShanahan]

Cheers guys. Excellent video as always. As a Volante owner I’m really looking forward to next weeks video. I love the Volante but can’t stop wondering about the RE-202. The eternal struggle 🤯😂

[@adalbertoschuckjr.1509]

Bull's Eye...I was anxious to see again your Roland Space Echo...By the way, The RE-201 is unbeatable...

[@erniesfo]

Both Boss with the RE-20, Re-2 and RE-202, and Dunlop/MXR with the Echoplex Delay and Preamp (designed/engineered with Jeorge Tripps) took a comparative/composite approach to the creation of their respective emulations. This process, IMO, achieves a better result then being "stuck" with the limits (charming and inspiring as they may be) of the original mechanical device.

[@Tyldenfilm]

After many months of consideration, I finally bought the RE-202, hopefully it will arrive this week. It does seem a bit intimidating, getting to understand andknow it, but hopefully It will do the job and replace several pedals on my board. Will save this video. :)

[@gordonrankin3995]

Ahhh I am number 666 like... Pretty much the way the day is going! I tell you I have struggled with reverb for years (not a digital fan, not an in amp fan) and the MXR Carbon Copy dials all at 11 gives me some nice air. Saw Steve Hackett do the entire Genesis Seconds Out last night (4/28/22) and he had some stellar reverb/space echo/sustain! Tone was really great, he had dual Engl amps tons of pedals. Wish I could have gotten a peak at his board. Why is it that I am back and forth to Reverb checking on prices on pedals during these shows? :) Ok still in need of some sort of reverb. Back to the recording room and setup up some analog ones. Thanks you guys great video!

[@TNTales]

The irony that for decades people spent lots of time, money and technology to make a pristine copy of a signal and then the last 15 they spend all that to reintroduce digitally the things we tried to eliminate.

[@arbelmaidan3657]

The saturation knob CAN affect the dry signal if you set it up that way in the extra settings mode, which is one of the strongest selling points for this unit in my opinion.

[@levijessegonzalez3629]

re-20 can do that?

[@arbelmaidan3657]

@@levijessegonzalez3629 No

[@DaveAndStuff]

Great episode! I'd be curious to hear how the dd-500 and rv-500 emulations stack up.

[@tompoynton]

seconded

[@PuRe_AdDicT]

I had an RV500 and now I have 202 The RV500 version sounded quite digital, the saturation here is key.

[@drewdemaio4162]

Great video guys. Love your channel. Finally got my RE-202 and thought I'd just share this. I really wanted to be able to use the reverb by itself, which you can do, but only if you turn the echo volume down MANUALLY. My hope was that when I switch off the delay, the reverb could still be on regardless of echo volume or any other settings. I'm sure there is some sort of hack by using the presets or something but this is disappointing as I always leave reverb on. If anyone has a solid workaround, let me know!

[@taloujazz9504]

Very interesting explanations thanks because it's not so easy to understand the process of playback heads

[@geha6596]

RE-2 vs RE-202 --> the RE-202 also has the new and aged tape mode which the RE-2 does not have. great show as always! BTW, When I'm struck by a slight feeling of depression, I immediately watch one of your shows and I feel almost 100% again - it's that "I feel at home and cosy" vibe you guys send out!!! thanks for that :)

[@ThatPedalShow]

Ah that’s great to hear! Thank you for sharing that!

[@lw1391]

Does the RE-20 have that new + aged tape mode feature?

[@jjarabejo305]

Vintage guitars and loud tube amps are why I watch, and will remain watching. Is to me the only way to go, and I appreciate your doing it this way.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thank you kindly!

[@rkharper]

Big boss fan here, had the 202 probably as the first one in Switzerland, and.... Sold it a week later, wasn't that much better than my RE-20, so it had to go.

[@kierenmoore3236]

The 202 sounds so damn bright and digital. 😕

[@coloneltrumpman]

I was thinking of getting myself the new RE 202 but after watching this video I'm getting the RE20! Either the RE202 thins out the ORIGINAL guitar sound or the RE20 makes it fuller and beefier? RE20 less gimmicks but a far better sound!

[@kierenmoore3236]

Agreed. The 202 (and 2, presumably?) sounds like an overly-bright mess, a lot of the time … 😕

[@jeffallen3382]

This may be my favorite video you guys have EVER done!

[@kentonschroer2347]

That RE202 enclosure is a bit CE1 like….. do we think maybe they will reissue a CE1 in that original enclosure? That would be awesome!

[@mickeythompson9537]

If you're doing the DL-4 and Volante - PLEASE compare their "Echorec" modes :-)

[@Sickindian5]

Thanks a lot chaps! Finally dream came true for me :) and yous made video. I’ve just started watching but I’m curious how close is 202 in regards to that “organic” reverb on 201. Basically that’s the deal breaker for me when it comes to these units. Cheers

[@Elraurko]

Can not wait for next weeks delayoff!

[@claesvanoldenphatt9972]

The combo of full hollow body with Bigsby and a tape echo is unbeatable for moody noodling. The feedback available with low gain barely breaking up guitar signal makes for a highly expressive cyborganic whole (with the player and amp).

[@AnthonyEvans-wl5ts]

Do you have an example video of these combination by someone?

[@claesvanoldenphatt9972]

@@AnthonyEvans-wl5ts no, I can’t think of any offhand. Jimmy Willsea used to do it with a Strat in Silvertone 40 years ago. My Harmony Rocket got stolen so I can’t do it anymore.

[@TheOdditee]

FYI: You guys always add something unique, and of value, even when you do what other channels do. Cheers.

[@erickaymusic]

That G6118T sounds so damn good!

[@russianmusicgear]

for me personally re-20 is the best delay pedal ever. it's super convenient, reliable and sounds better than any digital delays i've heard. and it self oscillates. rhythmic delays with this pedal are just jam. and i can hear from this comparison that it sits in the mix better and more upfront that the newer version, which is more sofisticated. but is it better in a band situation? i'm not so sure.

[@jonathananderson3897]

Dear Mick and Dan, not sure if you know but the 202 does digitally recreate the pre amp. You can either use the pedal with analogue drive through or you can use the digital pre amp. I tried one and believe me, that's the key feature. Still doesn't sound like a 201, but this is probably the closest thing to a real tape I've ever heard

[@romichjordan]

how u can do it? I mean still leave the signal clean and saturate echos with external pedal? thx

[@jonathananderson3897]

@@romichjordan a bit late but to do that all you would need to do is have the pedal in analog drive through mode then turn the saturation up. Hope this helps

[@hendrix1175]

Your demo is amazing!!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thanks!

[@THEJADAN200]

I love the design and sounds of the RE-202… but I just bought a Volante 2 weeks before it dropped lol. Definitely not disappointed with the Volante but I could see myself getting a 202 in the future and the Volante living at the studio. I wish they would have went all out and put a VU meter on the 202 (analog or digital) just for something extra.

[@matechabra]

Incredible playing Dan 🤘

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thanks Mateo, you’re too kind 🙏

[@muuhn]

thank fuzz it's friday!

[@FelixPatek]

can someone recommend me some great music like just guitar and verb/delay and nothing else. Sound like this here. Im an House and 80s Guy and really would be happy for some tips. Just some tripping vibes with an similar style like those jamming blokes from the video. thx

[@RedRose4711]

Great intro playing Dan!

[@scottolgard]

Another great video! I'd be interested to see how close you can get with the dd-200 tape setting. Obvs you don't have the extra controls, but you would expect it to be able to get somewhere in the same vein

[@mattlionmusic]

I was just thinking about the dd20 and the tape algorithm!

[@Ottophil]

Close enough

[@Airfire21]

Ah fellas, thanks so much for the shout out, I can't tell you how much that has made my day. I'm so glad that it was such an interesting question to you - in reality I think for me it was quite selfish, but you guys managed to blow it wide open and make it apply for a learning point for everyone. You may remember recently my acquisition of a Marshall DSL15 - which I am still absolutely loving every single day - however, I feel like I am missing some reverb. But I tried a couple of different things (cranking the reverb to 11 and moving the Slo before the wet/dry split and turning the effect down a lot) and it didn't really inspire me anymore, so I went back and listened to a couple of the delay shows and I felt myself seeing the lines blur between the delays that I was enjoying hearing, and what I would consider to be reverb. I think what I have discovered through this show and the previous shows is in reality what I am missing from the sound of the Marshall is a multi-head delay - whether it be an Echorec replica or a Space Echo reissue etc. It has lead me to some more, personal questions about things I may do with my board - but maybe that's a video for me to make. Great show as always guys and absolutely awesome to see Mick back on the vintage Strat again and to see the Gretsch come back out! Big love to the TPS family and see you guys soon.

[@murray.altheim]

A couple of days ago I bought a Nux NDD-7 Tape Echo, which emulates the Roland Space Echo. I don't have a point of comparison, but it has a great feature set (I think most of the Roland), easy to use, small well-made unit, nice UI, mono in, stereo out, 1600ms of delay and even has a 40 second looper that can be used at the same time as the Space Echo. So far I'm really enjoying it, and it was less than half the price of El Capistan here in Tokyo. If you guys get a chance to review it I'd love to hear what you think...

[@Megamando93]

I think that Andy's video for Reverb was interesting. I think it demonstrates the variability in each original RE unit. In general I have only ever preferred the tape units, but I think the 202 brings a lot to the table. Wish it had an analog preamp model in it because I think it misses a lot of the inherent texture that comes from the units having their own preamps - the Catalinbread delays are a great example of why it is great to have. Thanks for another great vid guys

[@Amish_Trivedi]

I think the 202 sounds amazing, but my immediate gut feeling is that I like the ability to choose heads easily with the Volante. Okay, only one type of reverb, but sounds like it's complex enough to change them in the 202. Haven't heard the 202 in person, so won't make that judgment, but maybe just trying to convince myself to "love the one you're with" and stick Volante? :) Great ep as always! Looking forward to the comparison and more importantly, the thoughts!

[@alessandrodecarli2462]

For what it concerns to me, I don’t give a damn if God or Satan make a video on something : if YOU don’t make a video on THAT something, for me that pedal it didn’t came out…YOU are the “period” on every pedal review! ❤️

[@TimBentley]

The multi-head delay episodes are some of the best. Fond memories of the various Echorec appearances, and this was awesome. That 202 sounds very good....

[@TomPFC]

Bought an RE-20 literally 2 weeks before the 202 was announced. I don’t regret my decision personally, it was cheaper, is a nicer pedal to navigate, and overall sounds closer to the original 201 in my humble opinion.

[@walkerkyle73]

The twist function of the re-20 is much better than the 202.

[@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu]

I wanted the 20 as well. slowdive,Tame impala used it. but when i saw the 20 new or used it always varied. but to be honest, my Board has 3 big pedal (Plexi drive,walrus warhorn+Ages,Avalanche Run) so the compact RE-2 was probably my best bet. as well as BOSS makes them all so it wasnt like I was looking for one brand and just picked another brand for less money

[@SIDESmusic]

I bought the second RE-20 now, brand new at a super cheap price. They run together in stereo now. Unique sound for me

[@henkkman]

@@walkerkyle73 absolutely!

[@fossilmatic]

Yep. In this demo it seemed the “soup” created by the delays in the Re-20 was closer to those in the Re-201. The “fidelity” of all the delays and effects on them with the Re-202 seemed a bit additive and less organic somehow. Great when you’re listening to guitar played in isolation for a demo, but gotta wonder how it would sit in a band mix?

[@jesperjacobsen2463]

I am absolutely in love with my RE-20. I agree that the fidelity of the 202 is above and beyond, but I can honestly see a place for both, as I'd imagine the 202 could be used as an outboard effect during mixing. Having said all that, I think you guys should look into the T-Rex Replicator D´Luxe Tape Echo. While not entirely comparable, I do think it warrants attention as a device somewhat similar in terms of what it does delay-wise. Thanks for a wonderful episode once again.

[@tompoynton]

They have featured it a few times over the years

[@dhod900]

The ‘61! Love to see it 👍 Edit: also meant to ask Mick if you’ve tried a Berkos Third Stone (silicon fuzz face ish thing), I got one recently and is blowing my mind for the strat fuzz face stuff

[@nickangelo3283]

I’m not Mick, but my name rhymes and I was just playing my 3rd Stone today, with a 1965 Strat (close enough to ‘61), and can attest that it is bonkers amaze balls. I like the Axis and Bass modes, and set the fuzz where it still cleans up all the way on the volume (around 3 o’clock). Leave it on all the time, and use the volume knob on yer fiddle…

[@dhod900]

Sounds very similar to how I set it up… but less fuzz for me but I’m going into a King Tone Blues Power setup to sort of mimic the feel of the amp cooking a bit but at loud bedroom / house levels It’s only very rarely that I turn the thing off!!!

[@nickangelo3283]

@@dhod900 Nice! Yeah, I set my Deluxe Reverb on 5, where it’s already breaking up a bit, so I don’t generally use an OD after the fuzz. I run into a Weber attenuator to keep the volume manageable. Cheers to your good tone taste!

[@neoaureus]

hi now that 101 is there... can you guys comment on 202 vs 101 >>>????

[@YeatzeeGuitar]

Excited for the 202 vs Volante video, been waiting for someone to finally do that!

[@DoubleDguitar]

I have been waiting to hear Dan play this for about as long as he has.

[@WhatsUpWhitey]

Can I request we revisit the “trying them all on at once” at the end from the past TPS shows?

[@russellkane9439]

Wow.... I wait every week for your new video... great... too much mo ey for the new boss re202 but I own the re 20 and I am very hsppy with that... really beautiful the Gretsch guitar!!!

[@londog2010]

What would you say to a visit from Steve Vai. Have you guys tried? It would be a really fun episode.

[@fletches4084]

202 looks/sounds like a nice bit of kit. Still can't break the desire for a proper vintage Echorec though.

[@ianpullman203]

This probably does 90% of what you'd look for with the sounds but to me, they all miss the unique characteristics of deterioration and random artifacts and peculiar 'misfirings' that a true tape delay has that makes it, well, unpredictable, but also desirable. The one thing that you can say is the upgrade and big check mark is the reliability and functionality that will probably stay solid for many years to come. I baby my RE-201 and hold my breath every time I turn it on.

[@jacktaylorguitarist]

Even just having the explanation of the way the tap heads work is great! I had no idea how it works on my DD200, so thanks! Would love to see the DD200 added on next weeks shop when you compare the other delays.

[@GarryHuta]

If you select the Tape delay option, you can turn the parameters knob to change the heads. For example if you see just 1, it's just the one head. If you see 2,3 then it's the 2nd and 3rd heads. 123 will be heads 1, 2 and 3. You can also assign the right or left buttons to the warp or twist function for some crazy oscillation effects via the settings(Tap Division and Preset button). Check out the manual, there's a bunch of crazy things the DD-200 can do.

[@jacktaylorguitarist]

@@GarryHuta thanks Garry! Yeah the DD200 is great, some really cool sounds in there. I don’t think the bride and groom will appreciate the twist function on the next wedding gig I do though 😂

[@GarryHuta]

@@jacktaylorguitarist lol! What do you mean?? Who wouldn't like the twist function during the procession?? Try the hold feature with the tera echo setting. My God is it a beautiful pad soundscape. I have mine set to the max delay time with just a little of the feedback and I hold down the right switch when assigned to the Hold feature. That Hold feature is like a sustain pedal for the keyboard. Amazing.

[@jean-philippemorin1176]

Leon Todd, has made great demos too. As well as Pete as you said.

[@darwinsaye]

I remember the good old days (like only 15 years ago), when, if a new, vastly improved version of something came out, the previous version could be bought used for dirt cheap. Just checked on prices of RE-20 units. Just ridiculous. Fucking investment buyers.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Ha! Or it might just be that the RE-20 is really good and people want them!

[@kennethlinton4432]

Had to watch this again because it is such a great compare. Have a RE-20. It is a classic.

[@melvinhawkins4567]

I've been waiting for you two to cover these new pedals! I absolutely love your tape delay episodes!!

[@julienmarchand2499]

TPS filming an episode without saying "Indeed" : challenge impossible

[@SquareWaveSymphonies]

Congrats on the Strat, Mick! Such a beautiful guitar! I hope you'll have a great time with it, after searching for so long for a vintage Strat. :)

[@ThatPedalShow]

Thank you kindly! I am enjoying it greatly!

[@neenerheaddj]

@@ThatPedalShow - Mick, have I missed where you’ve recounted the tale of buying it? Or do you plan to? I only remember you giving a quick “yes” in a recent VCQ when asked if you’d purchased it. I’d like to hear the story! :) Oh, and welcome to the Pre-CBS club! ‘64 Esquire for me. So far… So happy for you!

[@onenotesolo256]

The last noodles from Mick - I was surprised at how different (and greater, to my ears), the 201 sounded (through studio headphones and DAC anyway). All great boxes; the 201 smashed it.

[@ThatPedalShow]

Yep. It’s a very different thing for sure! Cheers!

[@ianmatthewdavis526]

35:25 Dan plugging in the tele without looking is just too clean

[@mdeck77]

If you are comparing multi function delay pedals, can you please include the UA Starlight?

[@DavidDantePhoenix]

Would love to see Pete Thorn on the show

[@drippinglass]

Or... @Pete Thorn could have them on. He has guests on his weekly Sunday show sometimes. 👍😎

[@barnshart9662]

Admittedly I haven't watched many TPS videos lately. Life style change, less time to fully commit. But I'm very glad that I got to watch this one. I really appreciate all the work you two do. Thank you for all your hard work!

[@ElliottCustomLures]

Same, so much so that I haven't picked up a guitar in months. This vid may have baited me back in...

[@AdamGotheridge]

"a bit of a hard time doing this video". Not everyday you will feel inspired, or maybe some days technical problems that sap all the fun out of it. I think you guys did a great job regardless. Really appreciate the human element you guys bring, and all that is a big part of what makes this channel great.

[@AtelierEphraim]

QUESTION FOR THE EXPERIENCED PEEPS OUT HERE Is it still necessary to get a RE-3 Space Echo when I already own a RV-6 and planning to get a DM-2W next.. coz I was thinking the Space Echo kinda have the same or similar fuction as delay and reverb of the two said pedals *edit I meant to say RE-2 not RE-3

[@ThatPedalShow]

RE-3 is an older rackmount unit that we don’t know very well. But the point of Space Echoes generally over something like that DM-2 is its ability to do multi-head delays. The DM-2, for example, has a delay that just has one head, so a single delay line. The RE series usually have three (or more) heads so you can create pattern delays and a kind of ambient wash that’s unique to those devices. If you want that, it pretty much must be a Space Echo of some kind!

[@AtelierEphraim]

@@ThatPedalShow Thankyou! I'm definitely getting this pedal if I have space on my board.. your demo made me realize how well it blends with the other pedals..

[@jaskiniamestwa]

When you can't pull off the F-major bar chord i guess it's gonna sound like crap on all of them :) hah, much love guys!

[@bischteinjohn5998]

You know guys that I was waiting for this video since the new space echoes came out? It's on the top of my shopping list, but I need your test first. Ahah. Let's go for one Hour, Hour. Hour. Hour... of magic gic gic...

[@mw-1]

I’m still using the Akai Headrush e2! Four heads with adjustable relative levels, spacing, and switch individual heads on/off using jack plugs in the four head outputs.

[@xtculater3213]

Great video as always mates! I’m a gigging guitarist who really wants an authentic space echo sound but I don’t think I could deal with the size of the bigger boxes. Do you think the RE-2 does enough of the job?

[@jacobrstout]

It would have been nice to get the NuX NDD-7 Tape Echo involved in this mix too. It sounds like a nice nod to the Boss Space Echo in some of the demos I have heard and it would be nice to see a budget piece of gear like that in your capable hands.

[@Daryl_Sweet]

These guys don't seem to do budget options as often anymore- Mooer pedals used to be common.

[@jacobrstout]

@@Daryl_Sweet I have been very impressed with the NuX pedals lately

[@MooCow2X2]

Hmm. Maybe we should bug them for NuX stuff. It seems to be a step up from mooer if you will. Maybe a “state of the budget pedal” episode is in order

[@NewFalconerRecords]

@@jacobrstout Me too. I've got the NuX Tape Core delay which is magnificent, the Mod Core multi-effects unit, (great for saving room on my live pedal board), and the ROCTary Leslie speaker pedal which is simply mad. Sooo good. Also got their version of the Klon (Horseman) and the JHS Morning Glory (Morning Star) -- super cheap but superb.

[@jacobrstout]

@@MooCow2X2 I like that idea, or a high and low budget of the same effect type of episode. I know Reverb has done those and it is nice to see some of the other options out there.

[@RodClark]

Space echo? I could go on and on and on and on about this episode at infinitum.

[@andrewcerra9762]

I would love to hear your thoughts on the Nocturne Mystery Brain, which has been THE space echo style pedal in the roots and rockabilly community for some time now. Very Brian Setzer inspired.

[@sumithramachandranwatchyou5045]

George Bernard Shaw on guitar 😃😃❤️❤️😂😂

[@clubhouseregulars]

The difference between delay and 'verb was explained to me as being: delay = 'ordered' repeats and 'verb = 'random' repeats. This groks with the multi-head setting and the phasing/modulation artefacts approaching a perceived 'verb effect as aural complexity is compounded. The delay(s), however sped up and stacked up, will only ever approach 'verb because they are still fundamentally ordered repeats even with simulated reflections. Also points to the awesome, algorithmic mentalness of the great digital 'verb units in randomising the maths in a non-machine manner, being able to humanly 'emulate' space to our brains and yet be musically pleasant to the ear...man, there's some clever, clever dudes out there.

[@amazeus1980]

Reverb is made out of multiple delays. Up to 20-30 ms we hear no difference. Reverbs have also pre-delay, worth adding. Slap back is a simple reverb. You can look at it differently of course…it is only imo.

[@davedavem]

It's so difficult when a range of products come out and the one that has more is better because it has more. The one that has less is cheaper, because it has less, but less good, because it has less. So, there's no argument that would make me go for the RE-2 over the RE-202, except that if I wanted the RE-202 and couldn't have it, I'd have to have the RE-2. This is exactly why I have the Carbon Copy Deluxe and not the Carbon Copy. That said, the RE-20 has a smiley face. :)

[@peterjessop1878]

So mick let me get this right. You now own the 61 and a 70 strat? If so👏👏👏👏

[@ThatPedalShow]

Yep. Been a crazy few months. I have landed finally! Ha!

[@jsmuir4722]

Yet another great exposition. Somewhat of an institution this Pedal Show!

[@horizonishere]

Way to get this together for today

[@thomasfreeman3857]

Any chance on doing a deep dive on phasers soon? Other than one short video when you started the show, I don't think you've really done any deep dives on them (I'm not counting the uni-vibe videos or anything on modulation in general, I mean a show specifically focused on phasers). I love hearing about delays, choruses, fuzzes, etc., but you've revisited most of those things a number of times. Not that I mind, I love all the videos you put out on the channel, I'm just thinking of a topic you haven't explored nearly as much that us viewers might enjoy. Have a good weekend!

[@ThatPedalShow]

Let’s do it. Dan loves phasers, asaaand we have the new Maestro one.

[@eaglerayrob]

I love delay and almost always have it on when playing. If just noodling around I've found that setting the delay time to be a factor of my at-rest heartbeat to be very natural and relaxing. The physiological effect of music is part of what attracts me to it but it is also something that can affect my playing (rush, drag, over play, etc...). Tape echo in all its analog glory is hard, if not impossible, to replicate in the non-analog realm. I thought the RE-202 sounded really good. Looking forward to hearing it along side the Volante. Great show Leg Ends. Happy May Day and.....Cheers!

[@uelude]

Clever

[@cameronlesley2428]

This has been a good video it’s made me dig out my old boss dd3 and experiment with it , (I never used it because I didn’t get it!) but this has explained how delays work tape or digital. Thanks x 800ms

[@denomdemon]

This is the earliest I will ever catch this show (U.S. mountain time zone). It certainly makes getting up at 5am for work (the morning after a gig 😩) loads more enjoyable.

[@glennw3909]

When does delay become reverb you say??? As soon as Dan & Mick say so.

[@bichovergara]

Finally! Somebody addressing the RE-20 in the mix

[@mercuryradiotheater]

Thanks for playing the gretsch, there's something about a nice delay through filtertrons that's just magic.

[@adrianmiller1971]

There absolutely is *some* magic that happens there. I think the RE's just love a toppy Gretsch