BotB #17: Seddie pt 5 - iLove You

I take on the last episode in the Seddie arc, and talk about how the storyline as a whole fails.
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[@KentaroMiyamoto21]

And at long last, Pieguy's suffering ends.

[@DanzigFan-vq3zf]

Indede

[@RichardDong68]

I'm happy Freddie has found better love in the iCarly reboot, he always deserved better and justice.

[@michael-pg8fi]

Off topic, but has pieguyrulz talked about the reboot yet? I'd be interested in his opinion on it.

[@BlythePennyBicycle21]

@@michael-pg8fi He hasn't talked about the iCarly revival yet, but he did express some interest.

[@Simbala-bq5vy]

But you're comment is before he was with Pearl or Carly together.

[@Surgemaster2012]

6:52 Because Sam Puckett is a writer's favorite, she can't ever lose or be wrong because the writers didn't want her to be. In a string of trends from Dan show's Sam is perhaps the worst example. No matter what Sam does it's all going to be Freddie's fault, no ifs ands or buts. Even Carly somehow made all their problems in iDate Sam and Freddie somehow revolve around Freddie. And this is coming from a guy who didn't even mind Megan Parker, at least it was clear Megan was an antagonist who you're suppose to hate! When it comes to Sam while not he best by any means I preferred her in earlier seasons where she was just an aggressive tomboy and with the exception of her Freddie abuse I found her aggressiveness was better utilized for comedy purposes. At least depending on the context. Like that episode where those writers plagiarized skits from iCarly into a show called Totally Terry, Sam attacks them with a butter sock. It was funny not only because those guys deserved it, but because its very straight that it is comedic, I mean Sam is attack guys with a sock filled with butter, that's funny. But when you compare this to her horrible violent attack on Gibby in iCan't Take it or how she beats Freddie (especially that aggressive slap she gave him in iSell Penny Tees) the tone of her aggression is so different, if they were going to make Sam this aggressive character I find using the former would be far better, as she could still assault people, but with the actual intent that it is funny, rather than being played as funny, while unintentionally awful! Even an episode earlier had Sam wanting to be girlier because she felt her more aggressive tendencies were too far, I felt this could've been explored more with her. Even iKiss had Carly actually call Sam out on her actions. Honestly I can't blame Freddie for being kinda jerkish in later episodes because with how unfairly he gets treated (even by Carly herself at times) it would make sense for someone to develop a more jerkish exterior. I mean can you really blame the guy when he gets treated with less respect and often abused by his crewmates? Carly sometimes can use his crush on her to get what she wants or how often Sam abuses him? This arc was awful, argubly one of the worst in this universe.

[@BlueEyedSilverWolf1]

I'm just gonna convince myself that the Seddie arc was just a nightmare Freddie had.

[@moiii_01]

😆😆 omg

[@Simbala-bq5vy]

Would make sense cause it didn't changed anything!

[@misshuntress821]

I’m really enjoying the revival though. Carly & Freddie’s relationship is so much better written, and free of toxicity, which is great at least.

[@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ]

Yeah back in the day I was just shipping Creddie to spite the annoying Seddie crowd, but now I'm genuinely all in about it

[@misshuntress821]

@@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ It’s been interesting to see that shift online since the revival came out, quite a few people have gone from despising them to liking them together. I didn’t ship either back in the day, yet here I am, actually rooting for them too! It’s amazing what good character writing can do lol

[@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ]

@@misshuntress821 Yeah exactly. The revival treats them as actual human beings instead of treating them like punchlines Although I do wish they toned down Carly's shallowness a bit. She is in her mid twenties and she's still flirting and dating like a 15 year old

[@misshuntress821]

@@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ I think Carly’s shallowness will be a plot point at some point. The writers seem self aware at least

[@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ]

@@misshuntress821 yeah that's definitely an improvement. And I loved when Spencer made an entire exhibition just to call her out on that

[@Pundit07]

Holy shit, about an hour ago, I was just thinking about when this would be released, no joke. Keep it up, PIEGUY!

[@Jay-mr8mi]

Ranking of all the SEDDIE episodes from Best to Worst: #5: iOMG #4: iLost My Mind #3: iLove You #2: iDate Sam and Freddie #1: iCan’t Take It

[@nevermind3630]

I said this in the last video, but it feels like Nickoledon forced the writers to do the Seddie arc, so they made the episodes as terrible as possible. It’s obvious that writers showed in “I start a fan war” that they didn’t want the show to be shipping. Nickoledon saw that romance episodes were the highest viewed episodes and obsession from the fans and wanted increase viewership. This episode shows that the writers had some understanding on how to make Sam and Freddie’s relationship work but they choose to make them insufferable.

[@board-qu9iu]

If this is true, isn't the writers responsible for knowing how to make the arc but doing bad to make a point

[@nevermind3630]

@@board-qu9iu Yes, because that made them so unlikable and their relationship end in less then 5 episodes

[@x-man9473]

@@nevermind3630 That makes the writers look like assholes. If they didn't want the show about ships too much, they could have turned the ship into a B plot issue. There is no excuse as a writer to intentionally make a relationship insufferable, especially after all of the build up since iKiss. Writers who do this are narcissistic.

[@Spacething7474]

Society would be so much better if this entire epi- no, ARC, was about Gibby and his pet duck.

[@thomasraines1396]

It’s such a shame Freddie is put with his abuser.

[@9Maciej]

Yeah, again, not surprising the actress didn't wanted to return for the reboot sequel. Though at least I would have like an episode in the new one where they actually addressed how awful Sam was and with her actually reflect on her behaviour with no sarcasm in it. Like be actually sincere about it.

[@pleoTCA]

I think she didn’t want to come back because she quit acting in general, and also Sam and Cat

[@9Maciej]

@@pleoTCA maybe, but she still said that she doesn't really look back at Sam fondly.

[@The_Gamer_91]

Didn't think we would have seen the end of this mini-series, but here we are.

[@JCDenton205]

Yes! It's time to finish this arc once and for all!

[@maxmeidl4909]

And leave this arc in the dust forever

[@SSS_304]

It’s good to see that I’m not the only one who finds this to be a stupid finale. It would probably work a little more (still not very much, considering last episode 😒) if this was the thing that broke the camel’s back rather than being the only reason. If they, during their conversation in the elevator, brought up the things they harmed or ruined by being in a relationship with each other and ultimately decided that it wasn’t worth all the denial and that it’s best to end the relationship, it would be a lot better by itself but far from enough to fix everything in the story line.

[@michaelmcjunkin1372]

At least now you're done with the Seddie arc AND possibly with Bottom of the Bakery. Now you can probably go with Bizarro Bakery

[@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ]

Finally someone who said what needed to be said. I'm glad you brought up the gender reversing thing and you aknowledged that the show never gave Sam consequences for anything

[@FrozenUSA]

The only time Sam ever got what she deserved for doing something awful to someone else is in the episode where Spencer has to juggle a first date with a classy girl and filling in for Sam co-hosting iCarly. If you remember Sam went to jail for a few days for slapping someone who turned out to be like the Mexican ambassador or something. I know this episode was only written because Jeannette McCurdy got really sick before filming and couldn’t be in the episode that week but still she suffered consequences for her poor decision making in this one case. There were many times where Sam could have and should have been charged with a crime but because it was being played for laughs she never suffered consequences for anything. One other terrible example of her getting away with horrible things is the explanation for why Sam deserves to have a boyfriend in the first season where she dates that creep Jonah. Sam says she hasn’t had a boyfriend since 5th grade when the guy she was dating rudely dumped her. Carly then reminds Sam that, I believe, she pushed the guy out of a tree and broke his leg. Then Sam says the guy rudely dumped her. This is implying that physically harming a significant other is not a good enough reason for them to break up with the other person. This show really plays fast and loose with morality and what’s worse is the target audience for this show perhaps hasn’t dated very much if at all and will see what Sam does to Freddy (among other people) and think that’s an ok way to treat a significant other.

[@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ]

@@FrozenUSA Yeah that's how I feel about it to. The show really fucked up the way they wrote her. And in the start she did have potential to become better. Just develop her out of the abusive tendencies she obviously picked up from her mother instead of turning them up to 11 for laughs

[@TommyDeonauthsArchives]

Seddie... Never again...

[@williebelcher9303]

Seddiers:wrong seddie

[@catholiccontriversy]

"Criminal relatives trying to take off Fredddy's pants," well this a Dan Schneider show.

[@misshuntress821]

I’m glad that Seddie is a thing of the past, they were awful as a couple. The whole ‘I love you’ thing seemed so forced.

[@ulisesarmenta8155]

Now that you are done with the arc, and the bottom of the bakery seems it will still continue, can you tear apar... I mean, review ISell Pennie Tees? I hated that episode, even as a kid.

[@BlythePennyBicycle21]

It seems like Sam went through flanderization throughout the series, which came to a head here. When you look at season 1 (and to a much lesser extent season 2) , while she was still somewhat abrasive, she mainly limited things to snarky remarks. Compare that to later on, where she doesn't care if others get hurt physically or emotionally as long as she's happy. It's no wonder Jennette McCurdy regrets ever playing her.

[@justjoannak]

100% agree with this

[@FrozenUSA]

It has always really bothered me that once this arc is completed, the show NEVER mentions their relationship ever again. You get a one off line in the Sam & Cat episode where Freddie makes an appearance and Sam says she did date Freddie and it’s not something she’s proud of. Freddie goes so far as to renew his crush on Carly following this story arc. That’s how little they talk about the ending of things. I do like the idea of an episode where they either talk about the breakup in a blogpost on the iCarly website or take a few minutes at the end of one of their shows to say something. Then they read their comment section and people are just as passionate one way or another as they were in iStart A Fan War. They would try to ignore the comments but the following week they notice a sharp drop off in viewership and be forced to spend an episode talking about what happened and why. The bottom line should be that they will continue to be friends and that their breakup has not and will not effect the quality or continuation of the show. That being said the meat of the episode should be like iFred or iKiss in the sense that this announcement of the breakup should negatively effect Sam and Freddie emotionally. The fandom then need good solid logic for why the relationship ended. PieGuy this reminds me of the video you posted a little over a year ago explaining why you stopped reviewing and making Spongebob videos in general. The fans of the videos became too much to handle and some of them even rage quit your channel because you weren’t giving them the content they wanted when they wanted. However, you explained to your subscribers very clearly and concisely why these videos stopped and why they may never happen again. This didn’t mean you were shutting down your channel. It just meant your focus would be elsewhere. The Seddie arc needed that kind of closure to the relationship as well. This relationship was hinted at so many times over the preceding seasons. Heck, even Dan himself said in a blogpost for the episode iSpeed Date that there is a awkward bit of editing when Carly and Freddie are dancing because *something* (a kiss perhaps?) had to be edited out so as not to effect plans for the characters in the future. With all of this buildup just for things to return to pre Seddie arc episodes the literal very next episode is infuriating no matter how bad the arc was. That’s just poor if not lazy writing. Every other tv show that has major characters date for awhile after being “just friends” at first and eventually have the characters break up, address the breakup. They either have an entire episode devoted to it or at least have a few lines of the next episode address things. This show really dropped the ball in the last year or so. Up until this point every single one of Dan Schneider’s shows that weren’t sketch comedy shows lasted exactly 4 seasons and there is a reason for that. He never knew how to write for a show that lasted longer than 3-4 years. Besides the actors were getting too old to play high school kids and he has never written a show about kids in college. The show should have ended not long after the Seddie arc came to a close. Instead it lasted an additional 18 episodes before the finale took place. I’m just glad Dan has nothing to do with the revival (which I haven’t seen) and that Jeannette McCurdy knew enough about not only her character’s personality traits but her own life and how she was abused in many ways by many people that she didn’t return to the show.

[@musiclover6944]

What are you talking about they do mention the relationship after the arc. In IPearstore Sam literally says to the co worker that she use to date Freddie. In the series finale when Freddie calls Sam ,Freddie literally says to Freddie “You wanna get back together”.

[@moiii_01]

@@musiclover6944 and yet after these, he tells Carly is it too late for her to love him back and even kisses Carly in the finale even though Sam could have walked in? Even Sam noticed at a point that he went back to crushing on Carly again.

[@train4292]

After all these years, he finally finished it. What a legend

[@nicoletravis8702]

I will never understand how everyone ships Seddie honestly. They have no chemistry, and when they dated all they did was argue. They were toxic as hell...

[@PhoenixRising87]

I hate the "Slap-Slap-Kiss" trope so damn much. It's so disgusting to see two characters who thoroughly loathe each other get together. There legitimately seems to be a wide array of showbiz writers who think a couple can't be amusing if they're not constantly at each other's throats. Yeah, Gomez and Morticia would like a word with them...

[@MattSayYay]

If you're wondering where the cake or pastry or thing in the oven was (or even the oven), remember that Pieguy ate the whole cake for this arc

[@nascarfanatic2425]

Sam became one of the newest growing clichés: the anti-Mary Sue character. Needless to say, I hate it worse than the Mary Sue character.

[@jdawson7877]

isn't it funny how subverting cliches has kinda become a cliche itself

[@nascarfanatic2425]

@@jdawson7877 I mean, that's kind of a part of criticism. It's not really cliché unless having an opinion is irrelevant, anymore. Which it shouldn't be, because we live in a world where it's more important to not offend someone than it is to contribute to society.

[@x-man9473]

That's not true. Mary Sue's are characters with virtually no weakness. Which is what Sam's character is. She can physically take down anyone. Gets no punishment for her bad actions. Still has friends despite being toxic. Is widely popular due to the iCarly website. Sam is definitely a Mary Sue. She's just the opposite of a "girly character"

[@nascarfanatic2425]

@@x-man9473 That's what I mean by "anti-Mary Sue." She's not "anti" like antibacterial; she's "anti-Mary Sue" like anti-villain; where the said person is still a villain; they're just being a villain to bad people. Anti-Mary Sue's are Mary Sue's, but in a "cool" and a "she's not like other girls" kind of way.

[@x-man9473]

@@nascarfanatic2425 I guess that makes sense. But the term ANTI makes it seem as if she's NOT a Mary Sue at all, hence my original confusion.

[@Loopyboy447]

If PieGuy continues with the Bizarro Bakery (which is unlikely given recent events) I hope the Bizarro version of this arc is either the Josh and Mindy episodes (Drake & Josh) or the Zoey and Chase episodes (Zoey 101) because they’re at least better written and more interesting than with the Seddie arc.

[@snakedude7215]

Tbh, Drake & Josh and Zoey 101 in general are better written than iCarly (not saying that iCarly is bad by any means though).

[@nathanbentley1939]

This might sound surprising, but this arc actually has a, I feel, bizarro bakery counterpart, so PIEGUY's "Third Law" analogy still holds. I'm referring to the "Beck and Jade break-up arc" from Victorious (spanning from "The Worst Couple" to "Tori Fixes Beck and Jade", though only a small handful of episodes explicitly focus on it).

[@entertainer_ev2747]

One of the few good things about the last half of Victorious

[@owenmaki1788]

Am I the only one who thought of the 1995 song "Breakfast at Tiffany's" when he mentioned Sam and Freddie attending a movie together as one thing they had in common?

[@moneyselfieideaskill1665]

Good news Pieguyrulz actor who play character of Sam from icarly , hate her character and she not playing anymore character for Nickelodeon

[@steak9738]

Honestly, you could just skip the last two seasons of this show. Icarly jumped the shark HARD IMO. This arc is a major example of that, thanks to its poor structure in general. But the last two seasons suffer from poor pacing, lack of focus, flanderization, and is just overall boring. Watching season 1-3 and then 4-5 are like night and day to me.

[@justjoannak]

Agreed.

[@isaiahiroaster5053]

At last, the arc is complete. I want to say thank you PieGuy for finishing up this project after all these years. I can’t wait to see other videos in the near future.

[@highfivers5062]

_heavy breathing_ It's over, it's finally over!

[@tediscoblock]

Good review. Now that the arc has been tackled, we can finally get to less sufferable stuff. I will admit that I didn't really care for this Seddie arc, I wasn't even into shipping from the start when the original show began in 2007 (I was turning 9 the month after the first episode debuted). I tried to give the show a chance, because I enjoyed watching that show when it was on. Even in the bad times. Now I can say is either these episodes or any of the episodes from the later seasons are problably my least favorite episodes of the great show that Schnider's Bakery gave us. I will admit I was in a pickle when the series were in these last few seasons. I was trying to be a christian and believe in the bad things that this arc has given us. I was foolish about it. But when I found your channel about a year and a half ago, and since then, I learned that you should do something about stressful situations like this. Your reviews of this arc made me feel humored about the problems portrayed between what I kind of think is a hate triangle in the arc. Like Sam and Freddie making Carly have to listen to their feuding and pick a side, everyone's life gone bad and mad because of how disrespectful Sam and Freddie have been acting as a couple and try to break them up because of all the effects their relationship has on them, and how they are not right for each other, etc. I wish you good luck in life, and keep up the good work you always do Pieguy. I wish the best for Jennette McCurdy because of all the many hard obsticles she had to go through when acting for Nickelodeon over the years. I also am glad the revival for Paramount plus is as good as it was from the start (before my middle school years at least). I hope that it keeps this good quality for more to come.

[@perkygoth1471]

Glad to see you managed to finish this trainwreck, I swear sometimes iCarly isn't as good as I remember it... are we still getting Bakery episodes from you though?

[@legendbtv]

Yeah I have a hard time figuring out whether I like iCarly or Victorious more. ICarly does have a lot of very rewarding highlights, but also a lot of really bad episodes that make it so polarizing, but Victorious ( at least season 1 and maybe 2 ) is like consistent solid good stuff that barely has real stinkers. ( Generally ) iCarly can hit some higher highs, but some much lower lows.

[@williebelcher9303]

@@legendbtv I say out of 97 ep. Icarly had like 30 to 40 bad ones

[@legendbtv]

@@williebelcher9303 I tell myself ... yeah I like iCarly but you’re kinda right, the mediocre to bad ones kind of pile up. A lot of the good ones aren’t that spectacular either, just good

[@x-man9473]

@@legendbtv I think Victorious was an overall better experience. >Most ships never happened. Cat/Robbie, Jade/Andre, Beck/Tori. All hinted at but never confirmed. >They had a successful platonic relationship with Tori and Andre, showing that a kids/teen show can have a close friendship with a boy and girl without them dating. >The show didn't overstay its welcome. 4 seasons (technically 3, as season 3 was split into 2 seasons). Most people only choose iCarly because the show was on longer and fans sort of grew as the actors/actresses did. And because (lets be real) the universe, characters, and humor of Victorious are pretty much a carbon copy of iCarly. It's almost like if the iCarly characters were in an alternative universe. Obviously the original feels more classic to people.

[@KingYoshi93]

Thanks for making these analysing videos. When I grew up with this show, I found it hard to place what exactly was irritating me or felt wrong about iCarly sometimes. But you explained it very well. And to be honest, I find it worrying that shows with characters like bully Sam and punch bag Freddie are so popular and that these problems are not talked about more. I don't think it's good when kids grow up thinking it's totally fine and cool to be like Sam.

[@alexanderklepp]

I agree. This episode is definitely the least bad of the storyline except for iOMG. Still doesn’t make it good but still.

[@314walker]

The Bizarro Bakery for this one I think would be I love Gwen from the iCarly reboot

[@summerrose8110]

I have tried to erase all my memories of watching this pedophilic crap show. I feel dirty that I grew up watching it.🤢🤮

[@tylercaswell7560]

I like this video thank you pieguyrulz

[@skibot9974]

Thanks!

[@PIEGUYRULZ]

Holy cow thank you!

[@skibot9974]

@@PIEGUYRULZ just doing what I can to support the creators I like

[@kylemorello4787]

I know exactly what this was: a troll move. Calling out the shippers in iStartaFanWar wasn't enough to shut them up, so they had to make this joke of a storyline to show how terrible Sam and Freddy would be as a couple in order to make it clear they had no intention of developing Sam's character anytime soon. It's the Life of Brian of iCarly.

[@wrestlingfan2024]

Knowing what we know now about Dan Schneider, these inappropriate themes fit in pretty well.

[@troin3925]

I always found it to be a lame and weak excuse that's heavily inferred that the only reason nothing about the arc is mentioned again by the next episode (except as a throwaway gag in the finale), is because the arc is over, it served its purpose which is just a weak copout.

[@ThatGuyWhoMakeRandomStuffYEEAH]

In my opinion this part of the seddie arc was kind of forgettable

[@gaitaproductions614]

Now that I think about it maybe the writers of I Carly made this arc to purposely show why Seddie would never be a good couple

[@baryardeni9731]

Well, it’s over at last. Talking about a decent ending that pushes the problems even further… It’s a little bit like talking about episodes that you like from shows that you hate, when you just think to yourself "So this show can be like this if it really wants to, but it just doesn’t".

[@SarimFaruque]

I don't really like Seddie as I used to, but I like some moments, such as that "wanna break up at midnight" scene.

[@dylfortune7384]

So, are you gonna do more BOTB now that you finished the Seddie ark?

[@meta4knight]

Congratulations, you never have to watch these episodes again!

[@abdullahibouraleh6919]

You finally finished the dreaded Seddie arc! I hope you're happy, Pieguy!

[@christheleavittman7080]

After all these years. Finally…he’s done them all.

[@tehawsumninja]

Finally something good to come out of the lockdown that dare not speak it's name: Pieguy completed the Seddie arc!

[@Ashtonyss]

The prophecy is finally fulfilled.

[@kevinmccallister1992]

Congratulations on finishing the arc.

[@willjensen8376]

When adventure time season 2?

[@skibot9974]

Don’t rush him. That was a contributing factor to him stopping Teen Titans and Spongebob

[@willjensen6816]

Sorry. It's just been such a while and I can't wait to see it!

[@gracekim25]

Wow you made it to end, well done mate🙂

[@MariaStar64]

I hope he does the revival they wrote Creddie so well in it! 😌

[@mrtheamazingdude]

Sadly Pieguyrulez has retired since last year I believe

[@watchforever1724]

When it comes to this storyline from the show I was definitely not interested when I was in middle school when this was out

[@MikeBlackStudios]

I wonder how Jeanette is doing right now 🤔🤔

[@summerrose8110]

Hope she's ok.

[@sakunaruful]

She has a podcast called “Empty Inside”. You should check it out!

[@TheFriendlyWeirdo]

I’m a shipper myself, but I found this whole arc irritating to the point that I couldn’t finish it.

[@SuKanzoo945]

Nice review! But what would the meal be for this episode?

[@PIEGUYRULZ]

Cake’s already been destroyed :)

[@SuKanzoo945]

@@PIEGUYRULZ I guess you can say this episode's what this arc is: Crap.

[@PIEGUYRULZ]

@@SuKanzoo945 Hahaha

[@LaineMann]

Instead of just abandoning Botb, you might think about of expanding it to shows outside of Sneider’s bakery. Maybe rebrand the show and talk about bad sitcom episodes in general?

[@chautamtv]

So good. I like this video very much because it's very interesting. Thank you. You are very confident. Very interesting experience. Always beautiful and beautiful. I like too .,

[@TitanXecutor]

Good job on completing what you started

[@nicholassims9837]

I said it once and I'll say it again Ronnicoln is way better than Seddie .

[@runningoncylinders3829]

We finally found the top of the bottom of the bakery! I’ve been searching that bakery from top to bottom! But I should have searched bottom to top!

[@musiclover6944]

Every episode of icarly season 1 reviewed?

[@runningoncylinders3829]

Somebody did a long video review of iCarly recently.

[@marcosgamesbrasilreviews78]

Its back botb yesss i really happy for This show back

[@TheOrthodoxSquad]

Yeah, gonna keep going with more *filler arc!* And this it’s a *IFiller Episode!?*

[@sonicspeedkaleb134]

Yes! The arc is finally finished! We can finally rest in peace knowing that it's all over. Also, out of curiosity, how do you feel about Sam personally as a character in the show itself? Cause you did make some good points about her rarely, if ever, getting consequences for her actions.

[@JustNekoBea]

I’m glad you were able to tear apart this god awful arc. Good job pieguy

[@pleoTCA]

Well this is an end of an era

[@henrybryantkidofvoices]

Will you make more BIZARRO BAKERY EPISODE

[@fantasticfreddie5]

Finally, after 3 and a half years you finally completed the seddie arc, thank god it's over at last.

[@miguelgarces8946]

iCan't Take It and iLove You seem to have similar main/sub-plots to the As Told By Ginger episodes Wicked Game and Family Therapy, where a few main characters want a couple they don't like to break up, only to fail, and a main character being treated childishly by someone they're close to, having no problem with it.

[@ryandennison8754]

So if you were to do a Bizarro Bakery for this, would you be basing it on JoshxMindy? Just like one big episode perhaps?

[@blaa6]

I'm all the more confident in saying I'd rather watch Drake and Josh.

[@entertainer_ev2747]

I don't think anyone would disagree unless they're keeping their nostalgia goggles on their head

[@LaineMann]

Look I know it’s easy to write off that show cause of what Drake Bell did, but think of it this way: now Meghan fucking with them is justified.

[@shadesslitz]

@@LaineMann Well fucking with Drake that is.

[@giovanniorellana2200]

We're at the bottom of the bakery of the Seddie arc at long last!

[@joniivee]

This is great to see as always. Eager to see what you'll do now that you're free of this arc.

[@nicholasemiranda3057]

It’s over now in the reboot I hate how Carly asks what do I know? You said they should stay together when Sam ruined His chance of going to college he should have dumped her but you stopped it from happening he’s right it’s your fault

[@pass_]

this is a historical day

[@BlythePennyBicycle21]

Yay!

[@anerdwithamic]

Well, this was a pleasant surprise :)

[@rokishijuice4057]

Hey Pieguyrulz

[@TrevortheTrainFan]

FINALLY!!!!😁😁😁

[@majestyxo]

NO WAIT REACT TO THE KILLER TUNA FISH JUMP EPISODE OF SAM AND CAT THAT WAS A SEDDIE,CABBIE ROISODE AND THEN JADE WAS JUST THROWN IN

[@majestyxo]

Carly was such a hypocrite here😭 if we go back to Idate a bad boy Carly breaks up with griffin for liking pee wee babies, which she didn’t. And now this mtf wants to go to then and say “YOU NEED TO LEARN TO LIKE STUFF HE LIKES AND LEARN STUFF SHE LIKES!!” WHAT? Also they were legit fine till Carly wanted to force them to learn stuff they like?? CARLY FORCED THE WHOLE RELATIONSHIP TOGETHER?? Also the fact no one even questions sams prison record, like Freddie,Carly,gibby and Spencer just sit there like “she has a prison record and can literally kill us if she wants to? That’s fine means nothing” well besides Carly cause Carly knows for a fact Sam ain’t gonna hit her, and maybe Spencer since she seems to actually like him

[@FrozenUSA]

I agree. Carly was way too invested in this relationship for it to end any way other than it did. Carly even says she likes them together even if it’s weird and essentially lives for the drama because she doesn’t have a boyfriend. She could have still had Griff but just like what was stated above she too dumps someone because she doesn’t like what they obsessively like. I didn’t like how they made Griff’a Pee-Wee Baby collection something only little girls should like. They play it for laughs. Instead Griff should have really defended himself (can’t remember how much he defended himself) and said to Carly, “if you like me as much as I like you then you have to learn to at least accept that I may like things you don’t like and that’s fine. If you really can’t handle that then I guess I can’t handle being your boyfriend anymore.” The creepy thing was that in the heatwave episode Griff really thought he could have a one-off make out session with Carly and she would be fine with it. There were other things like stealing Spencer’s bike that should have kept Carly far away from Griff but girls like Carly eventually date the Griff’s of the world to sort of get it out of their system and realize those people are probably not the long term relationship guys and you can’t change them into being that way. The same is said for Sam and Freddie. I will admit that Carly does have a point that couples should spend quite a bit of time together and they do with the web show. If they honestly don’t like trains or visiting relatives in prison it’s ok. The should at least hang out all day at school, walk each other home, and call each other every night. Sam had more in common with her horrible ex Jonah from the first season than she ever did with Freddie and he tried to cheat on her with Carly. I honestly don’t know what type of guy Sam might ultimately end up with long term but I think both she and Freddie need to do some soul searching (and in Sam’s case some serious therapy) before they date anyone else.

[@meganmiller4950]

well hewas 22 making out with her at15 irl

[@dvdnerds5549]

Can you do a episode about the Henry Danger spin-off Danger Force

[@johnnyd3158]

Sam would be better best friends with Megan from Drake & Josh than with Carly.

[@kimberlybogert7031]

I don't think I remember this episode but I think I lose interest in the show at time but all and all this show had some issues that I didn't realize till I got older:/ Aww Gibby (forgive me spelling he name wrong if I did😅) getting a pet duck aww☺️🦆🌺

[@samuelb-1406]

I know you won't see this but will you discus nick sitcoms unrelated to the Schneiderverse (side hustle, drama club)?

[@tediscoblock]

I forgot to mention, I rank this second on the list of Seddie episodes because this is when its all over and that everyone on the show can finally get back to their normal lives. I might consider IOMG the best one of the arc. I know the worst belongs to I Can't Take It. But at least with Pieguyrulz tackling it makes things less stressful, even if I ignore watching those bad episodes.

[@ultraboy2669]

Did Aaron do The R word to you LOL 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@skibot9974]

I hope BOTB comes back

[@sanctuary9992]

This show use too build up all of my hopes until I started to realize that I've got jipped. Cheated and lied too. But the more I think what my peers say about life. The more I appreciate that it was for the fun of it. Patience is in a fact a virtue you know.

[@thatweirdgirlinthecorner3073]

Time for the reboot review 👀

[@nel-sunstudio6109]

review kenan and kel happy b day marc episode that episode sucks and rip it peice by peice

[@unpopularopinions7407]

I never thought I’d see the day...

[@happeninggood1458]

Can you do episode about victorious season1,Episode's 12 one day ?

[@arrogantgodjealous]

Are you gonna talk about the revival?