It really goes to show that people have bias due to what they think it should feel like, and it also shows that all the bows are pretty close and you shouldn’t pick a bow based on draw cycle alone because you’ll get use to it
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Facts
@trentmyers65153 ай бұрын
@8:22 I love how happy MFJJ is when he gives him the Darton and he likes it but is wrong. Then just for the icing immediately hands him the bow he thought it was.... nice.
@BowDisciples3 ай бұрын
Classic 😂
@jayminer941622 күн бұрын
@@BowDisciples Im on the fence for a Darton......
@gordonneverdies5 ай бұрын
Props for doing the vid over with the glove!!
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
You bet 🫡
@elncalls5 ай бұрын
Me at my bow shop, Can I use a blindfold? Bow shop says, stop using drugs!
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@billatkinson68075 ай бұрын
You guys need to do more videos together. Educational and funny.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Will do
@duaneforrest73955 ай бұрын
This video was fantastic. So glad you did the glove test follow up to the first blind test.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Us too!
@chris_f_eden5 ай бұрын
Great video. Gotta go into my local shop Tuesday and ask them if I can bring a blindfold and welding glove in and shoot some bows 😂
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Hahaha
@mikerugar54405 ай бұрын
Awsome between the 2. Happy you guys did the glove one quick and didn't have to wait on this video.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
For sure
@royhoglund13225 ай бұрын
Pretty interesting test! You know you'll catch some heat for this one though! Love the interaction between you and MFJJ! Keep the videos coming!
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thanks again!
@brianbaures64095 ай бұрын
Hell yeah, awesome video. That was a lot of fun. Really cool seeing how your perception changed with the glove on.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Yeah for sure, it was wild
@DavidBowCrazyBabyak865 ай бұрын
If there was a way that MFJJ could incorporate James into his bow reviews whenever the new ones all come out, I think it would be the best review by far. It already is probably the best review that you can find, but then if you put James's personal opinions and everything else in it would just be hands down the best. No doubt
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
We might make that happen
@jordanhudson50754 ай бұрын
Hell yeah man, I bet this was so much fun to do, loved it, hope to see more of this, I wish the manufacturers would do tests like these
@BowDisciples4 ай бұрын
Yewww
@michaelhamilton49585 ай бұрын
I find it interesting that you always like the PSE Evolve (even when pulling it at The Bow and Arrow shop) but always discount it.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Great bows
@jakedublya155 ай бұрын
Great video and brings a whole different way to test bows. May want to check the Bear to make certain the cams are set correctly. Seems to be a big problem when with bow shops not putting in the correct setting.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@DavidClodfelter-l6u5 ай бұрын
Bear is not set right,65lbs & 90% should feel like it's cam rolled over to far and you feel as to push off to let it down. Can't help the different cycle ...it's still only 65lbs you are pulling..yep back wall isn't a solid as an elite
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Ok
@aussiepaul55823 ай бұрын
Have to agree, this is the only video I've seen where people really dislike the draw on the Persist. My Persist is just under 65lb, 85%, 29" DL, I'm 52yr old with bad back & neck etc, also alot smaller than these big blokes & I don't have anywhere near the problems drawing it back compared to this video, (& the one without the glove), also, change the grip to the narrow grip it comes with, it feels better. Good videos though.
@DocSilveri3 ай бұрын
A new bowhunter here with the Darton Consequence as my first bow that I’ve been shooting for a few months now. I’ve handled the Sequel as well at the local shop and grantedly the balance is significantly better, but the draw cycle in my beginner mind didn’t differ as such, since they do share the same cams. Didn’t shoot it though so I can’t tell how much better the flagship is in that regard. Still nice to see that as the Sequel did rank rather high, that means that my midrange bow is actually rather damn good for its price. An interesting variation of this would be a blind comparison with perhaps fewer bowyers, but taking also entry level and midrange bows to the mix from each manufacturer. I suspect it would have some brutal results (looking at Bear here).
@BowDisciples3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy your bow
@joshmorris85105 ай бұрын
Great video. I think that was an awesome way to test a bow.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
I think so too!
@simoncooper69395 ай бұрын
Hi Guys, excellent follow up, good job. More, More ! !
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@v.hillegass43515 ай бұрын
Hahaha. Great video. But seeing you guys pull out the keystone lights makes me think you should have shot the frig!! Hahahaha.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
😂😭
@kylemacdonell14505 ай бұрын
I love your attitude, keep being you ! BTW - I was about to pull the trigger on a HOYT RX8 ultra, now i'm on the fence !
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Great bow 🏹
@brandonbonner75594 ай бұрын
Awesome video series guys, definitely need to refine a way to blind shoot these bows! Thanks for putting in this amount of work!
@BowDisciples4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@D18Y5 ай бұрын
Always a great time when Bow Discipline drops a video.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Yessir 🫡
@charleszielke26345 ай бұрын
His reaction on the Bear was funny. Way better test with glove on. I will the say ,the way a bow looks has big impact on my decision to purchase one.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Right on
@johnbelusko63475 ай бұрын
Gotta say i was hoping he would have went ahead and snuck ur bow in just to see if the glove threw u off. As always my brothers, great vid. Hope to get to meet and shoot with tall someday.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thank you
@jonbrown94905 ай бұрын
This is a great video! It would be super cool if SVA offered a version of this to customers in the shop. I would make an appointment, pay a fee and drive to Spokane to buy a new bow if I could shoot a series of bows blind before I made a purchase.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
That would be sweet
@jinshifu5 ай бұрын
Great update to the testing by further blinding yourself to any clues. Looks like they all draw roughly the same, probably best to pick a bow based on accessories/features and what looks cool, honestly.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Agreed
@spoofhoundify4 ай бұрын
I have talked about doing this with my buddy for years when go shoot bows. Just hand me the bow and don't tell me what it is. A glove is the answer. This is a great video.
@BowDisciples4 ай бұрын
Yessir!
@leroyjones7695 ай бұрын
James’s vibe and personality is MONEY!!
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thank you sir
@justinwehner60255 ай бұрын
This was a lot better test, I liked seeing the unbiased thoughts
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thank you
@tcblankenship34835 ай бұрын
Thank you guys this was freakin awesome 🤘🏻
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Appreciate you!
@davidsimpson35835 ай бұрын
One of the best comparence videos I have ever seen. Also the funnest.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thank you
@cseckel625 ай бұрын
The type of video the entire archery world needs to see . When people are so set in there ways of i shoot " THIS " brand and its the " BEST" thinking. they are influencing and have made up there minds before they shoot the bows. its perfectly fine to be set on a bow and buy it but if you want to find the one you like best its not always what you think. Mad props for this video with MFJJ , this video hits different. id like to see more of this type of content , real data for real shooters. i wonder if you could do this with bow accessories , releases ? , Stabs ? , clean some arrows and shoot them for a bit and see what you actually like ? maybe force yourself to try different arrow weights without knowing the weight? . Much love Bow Disciples
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thank you 🏹
@DavidBowCrazyBabyak865 ай бұрын
That is hilarious! I'm over here dying. I love the honesty thank you
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Gerry-w7q5 ай бұрын
Josh those video were awesome with the glove and blindfold but the video before James can tell just buy the grips wow that amazing
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@scottgulden70354 ай бұрын
Absolutely awesome videos with the blind folds!!!
@BowDisciples4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@dansmith89335 ай бұрын
For a second I thought he grabbed bud lights which would have ruined this entire review. Love them keystones!
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Bud Light isn't canceled anymore
@dansmith89335 ай бұрын
@@BowDisciples bud light will ALWAYS be cancelled my friend.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
No Donnie T says it isn't
@Jsfea015 ай бұрын
Great test & info. I couldn’t see all the data on the board at the end and then the data was quickly discussed. So hard to tell how each bow really ranked out. It would be helpful to have a data table pop up on the screen that could be paused for review. Thanks again for the test!
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thank you sir
@velasquez85 ай бұрын
Worst to best Bear 3.4, Prime 7.0 Darton 7.35 Elite 7.4 Mathews 7.5 pse 7.55 Bowtech carbon 7.645 Hoyt 7.7 but first vid said best draw cycle, second said had worst draw
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Solid
@Fletchedchaos754 ай бұрын
You guys need to do one where you eliminate a bow after shooting them all,like MFJJ does with new shooters! You guys keep me crackin up,good job!
@BowDisciples4 ай бұрын
Next time
@omarsedano43015 ай бұрын
WOW!!!!!!! So it’s all in your head technically. So because it’s a name brand people think it’s good, but the proof is in the pudding. Great video 😮👍🏼
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Exactly!!
@chris_f_eden5 ай бұрын
Let’s goooo we get the part 2
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Yewwww
@JS-ji5bl4 ай бұрын
That was a way cool test I loved it guys.. not to mention my two favorite archery KZbinrs together in the same video way cool... 🤙🏼✌🏼
@BowDisciples4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@gmatthewpaul5 ай бұрын
Great video guys!
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thank you
@sinepari91604 ай бұрын
You're making me want to try an Elite.
@BowDisciples4 ай бұрын
Give it a try
@buckrush86125 ай бұрын
Seeing the darton that high might of sold me on it
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Great rig
@MarvinWafflehouse915 ай бұрын
Great video , best bow test I ever seen 👍🏼
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thank you
@jacobhollis86475 ай бұрын
Love that Keith Stone was able to make an appearance!
@timbow505 ай бұрын
So, who is this guy thats he’s so whatever?
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
😂
@Shawnbo8125 ай бұрын
I would definitely have to try this out myself. I still think you are going to be able to tell even with the gloves and blindfolded because of the grip. Great video though
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
You will not be able to tell
@mltron5 ай бұрын
Good ol keystone. Cheers to a good video boys
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much
@c.r.rg95295 ай бұрын
He looks like the goofy clone in the movie "multiplicity" "She touched my peppy" if he could've just said that I would have lost it
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Love it
@c.r.rg95295 ай бұрын
@@BowDisciples I just kept waiting for you to shoot the fridge
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@juanrodriguez-mu7ko5 ай бұрын
You guys are awesome this video was the bomb!!!
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thank you
@CMac05175 ай бұрын
Absolutely spectacular video!
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@mgrundy5 ай бұрын
great idea and video. How much bourbon you got in that fridge?
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Good question
@mgrundy5 ай бұрын
@@BowDisciples given the results, are you gonna go down the rabbit hole of testing and potentially shooting a new bow setup?
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Time will tell 🤔
@SWMissouriOutdoors5 ай бұрын
Haha, love the video. Although I love my Persist. Keep up the good content.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thank you
@FURFEELINGS_34 ай бұрын
Seemed like the Darron killed it man
@BowDisciples4 ай бұрын
Sweet rig
@HuntingCreatures5 ай бұрын
Will love you guys do comparison of broadheads, but with live animals (pigs for example), and show results.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Roger
@nate545575 ай бұрын
Yall should consider having multiple people do this test to see if others have similar outcomes
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Josh did it also, his video will be up this week
@dans64765 ай бұрын
Backwall is soft on the prime? Does anyone else feel that way? (first real bow purchase) I personally think my inline3 is great! Was considering upgrading to a Elite or PSE in the future.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Definitely a bit spongy
@jasonowens88725 ай бұрын
This is great!! Awesome video idea.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!!
@barbellsandbowhunting4 ай бұрын
All about the feeling
@BowDisciples4 ай бұрын
Yewwww 🏹
@benmcrae93855 ай бұрын
Ill say it again. This test setup needs to be on a shirt!
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Maybe 🤔
@TheChattanoogaBandit5 ай бұрын
I think you beat them up enough 😂😂 those bear bows are not great tho
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Hahaha
@bensmith26655 ай бұрын
😂😂I ordered a bear Alaskan XT...can he shoot the price point and mid range bows for comparison to the flagship bows? Sounds like a cool video? Big fan always watch
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
We can probably make that happen
@johnarcher94803 ай бұрын
How a bow feels on the shot is pretty much the last thing to worry about.
@BowDisciples3 ай бұрын
Agreed
@outdoorswithroostercurrie69845 ай бұрын
Great Video Fellas
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@illinoispublicland46805 ай бұрын
Honestly I know this would be a pain for a regular shop to go through every day. But there is really so much bias when choosing a bow. I’d say majority of people coming in already have 3-4 brands there not even considering but I bet this test would surprise them. Kinda thinking more shops should go this route lol.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Oh for sure
@robertporteus77005 ай бұрын
out standing vid. amazing he though the Darton was a bowtech.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Great rig
@robertporteus77005 ай бұрын
@@BowDisciples I shoot the Darton Sequel 33 it’s a great bow.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
@@robertporteus7700 Awesome!
@Matto_Harvo5 ай бұрын
Darton got best review
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Great rig
@stokermeister35 ай бұрын
Don’t kill the fridge 😱 😂😂😂
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@liamburt26285 ай бұрын
so do you guys have a favourite? having shot the 'full bow feel' in the first vid, and then just the draw and backstop on 2nd vid, which are your top bows?
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Would have to look at the scores
@liamburt26284 ай бұрын
could you throw up a pic at some stage please. pausing the video covers the board so i cant read anything! thanks @BowDisciples
@BowDisciples4 ай бұрын
I'll see what I can dig up
@williamchristian23752 ай бұрын
Very informative
@BowDisciples2 ай бұрын
Thanks
@Below_Average_Sports5 ай бұрын
So safe to assume you won’t be replacing the bowtech with a Bear 😂
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
😂
@chris_f_eden5 ай бұрын
“Well I can’t see it” 😂
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@richker23845 ай бұрын
Awesome video 🤘
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot
@manueljuncosa85224 ай бұрын
Man this was awesome
@BowDisciples4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@stokermeister35 ай бұрын
He looks like Ali G’s cousin with the hat and the glasses lol 😂
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
😂 classic
@thistledewoutdoors33315 ай бұрын
Harbor freight arc welding gloves
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Yewww
@wideopenmx8505 ай бұрын
Cool video was fun to watch
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thank you
@katiek76495 ай бұрын
i wonder if i can have my friends do this when they go bow shopping for their first one
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
It's a great method
@TheRealEricRose5 ай бұрын
Feels like holding a 2x4 😂😂😂
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
😂
@CarlosRamirez-vq5cr5 ай бұрын
A little biased to bowtech lol I think most of us would be the same way but great video fun to watch
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
I had no clue what any of them were lol
@CarlosRamirez-vq5cr5 ай бұрын
@@BowDisciples ya Josh came up with a good one I mean I have a Mathew’s and the bows that felt the best would all be Mathew’s to me lol hats off to u though u didn’t try to touch the bow with the non glove hand made for great content
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thanks brother
@dewboy9105 ай бұрын
It just shows that people can be very biased when doing comparisons. Which is why I don't care what someone else thinks of a particular bow. I have to shoot it for myself.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Yuppp
@david.60405 ай бұрын
Good stuff!
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thanks David
@Philly_4_for_45 ай бұрын
Chugs like Napoleon Dynamite.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Iconic
@douglasvaughn95305 ай бұрын
I'm also glad to see the Darton S33 get a high score as I have a left hander coming next week. Haven't even shot one but from what I hear it's a sleeper.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Great bow
@Pygex4 ай бұрын
Just goes to show all the big brands are great, get the one that fits you and your wallet 😂
@BowDisciples4 ай бұрын
For sure
@jons7e5 ай бұрын
Test 3, James has to tell which arrow hits his 🥜 blindfolded
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Hahahaha
@olehemlock5 ай бұрын
The Gimp 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
😂
@stuartbaker33265 ай бұрын
I laughed my arse off when he said the lift felt like a PSE😂😂😂 That's the worst feeling mathews I've ever shot. Ya'll should get him to shoot a phase 4, and see if it feels better to him. Those new cams are trash imo.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
I'll have to try it
@ronaldirvineII5 ай бұрын
Great video bro
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Appreciate it
@DavidBowCrazyBabyak865 ай бұрын
These videos are hilarious. In the best with James and Josh's little wise ass cracks and what not and then Brianna throws in her two parts especially cuz her and James are a couple dude. If you guys live closer together and made videos all the time, it'd be off the chain or Rocker however you want to say it
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Gahaha thanks bro
@dannyadamson21984 ай бұрын
That was fun
@BowDisciples4 ай бұрын
Super
@davidgeske47984 ай бұрын
This is very interesting. I think you should do it one more time give a score move on. Don’t try to guess the bow.
@BowDisciples4 ай бұрын
That's a good idea
@Eightball25165 ай бұрын
Should have used mid grade bows to see if he could do the same thing
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
We may give it a rip
@douglasvaughn95305 ай бұрын
Elite Kairos would've got a 7.8-8.0.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Oh yeah?
@gl4evah5 ай бұрын
Lovely
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Thanks
@redball40934 ай бұрын
Coll vid
@BowDisciples4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@Thedesertplumber5 ай бұрын
🎉🎉🎉
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
🏹🏹🏹
@tonymartin7905 ай бұрын
What’s up with bear flagships having basically zero valley and ten ton draw cycles? Who at Bear pulled it back and was like “yup this is the one, let’s make that our flagship” ??!
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Couldn't tell you
@ColoursOfDan025 ай бұрын
Might be their crude way of getting the speed up.
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Possibly
@aussiepaul55823 ай бұрын
It's actually not that bad, guessing the bow in he video isn't set up correctly, I'm over 50, smaller than these blokes, have injuries & don't have anywhere near the issues they have drawing it back. Mine is just under 65lb, 85% & 29" DL. If I had of seen this video before I purchased my Persist (online) then I would have gone a different way, glad I didn't, the bow is good to shoot.
@SouthCoastChompers3 ай бұрын
That my friends is Bias at play, don’t believe you brain always ha ha
@BowDisciples3 ай бұрын
Roger
@Not_Andrew_Huberman5 ай бұрын
Buy a bow based off how well it holds, weight, ata, performance.. they all draw back
@BowDisciples5 ай бұрын
Bingo
@drewanderson5025 ай бұрын
Should have thrown in a recurve with a d-loop on it…