40 New Ideas for Improving SSF2!

[@McLeodGaming]

3:40 Bro he doesn't deserve this

[@wymyn]

Damn that’s tough

[@FlagpoleGlitch]

Bring back all oldest stage in all SSF2 demos pls

[@HBhasArrived]

Do them all but not the golf one L really want a story mode

[@ThatOneAltAccount143]

We need more bosses: giga bowser, ganon, ridley or maybe crocomire, giga sanbag, some subspace emissary or smash ultimate bosses, masked dedede, others

[@pinkmann5158]

@@ThatOneAltAccount143 more? Why do we have any?

[@smashblaster1-up190]

One idea I’ve had was including the Dragon Balls into the game as an Item, they would be collectable like the Dragoon Pieces or the Daybreak Pieces and once they’re all collected, Shenron will appear and would grant the player either an extra stock, restore they’re health, spawn in an item or an assist, or maybe even give the match more time

[@crazynaut223]

Yo that's actually genius

[@dafu4725]

wow

[@viciosgamer6930]

GENIUS

[@orion_shorts]

Great idea

[@viciosgamer6930]

What do you think of adding the shield monitors from the sonic games they would give immunity to certain types of attack and protect you

[@meleewaluigi]

Why do you need 40? You only need 1: Replace all of Luffy's voice clips with his KO sound

[@theophilecaceres5855]

replace all Goku's voice clips with his Side Taunt.

[@johnli9372]

@@theophilecaceres5855 lol

[@rooban989]

@@theophilecaceres5855 Neutral B: Ha... Ha... Ha... Ha... *_H A_*

[@willtheoreminer]

yes

[@NinjaXFiles]

*OoooOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAA...!!!*

[@Artmagic3318]

7:02 platforming with ssf2 controls? This sounds great specially considering all the movement techs you can do

[@willtheoreminer]

o h

[@alexstartgame4604]

Hey

[@choumiel]

Resprite Lloyd!

[@willtheoreminer]

McLeodGaming: *_TOO BAD WALUIGI TIME_*

[@belfordbahamonderuiz994]

Yeah!

[@viciosgamer6930]

Dk and Bomberman too

[@rikterjan7278]

And sheik XD

[@ereekdjajakusumah4060]

meta knight

[@thethinker7273]

3:41 *SANDBAG WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION*

[@maskkid]

When people forget that Super Smash Bros. crusade had Final Smash Meter before anyone even thought about it

[@mep6302]

True. But in Ultimate the meter is more balanced because you can't use it while another player is executing their final smash. In Crusade you can use it at any time

[@Kriskirby1992]

8:40 IT’S JIGGLYPUFF AS SEEN FROM ABOVE

[@glacestarot8148]

6:09 While Palutena's guidance may not be possible, since there aren't lines for Black mage, for example. WHAT IF: It was Cleodbot.exe's guidance for Sandbag? Telling how to pursuade his opponents?

[@arthur1050]

That's so genius

[@islandko2402]

Yes! I would love it!

[@potped5150]

I love ssf2

[@opadrip]

I really hope for a story like they initially planned, or at least some sort of Adventure Mode.

[@willtheoreminer]

there's not enough time for them AND IT'S ALL ADOBE'S FAULT

[@mep6302]

@@willtheoreminer For the next update they could change the engine and rename ssf2 with another name not including the word flash. I don't know

[@willtheoreminer]

@@mep6302 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT'S NOT RIGHT

[@Azure9577]

@@willtheoreminer nothings changed its better actually since u can now download the game

[@clonedbraixen]

My opinions of your ideas: 1.- It's a good idea, since 3DS doesn't have a mechanic at all in the water. 2.- You mean My Records? 3.- They will definitely do it, but with a lot of development time. 4.- It's also a good idea, I also want them to do My Music in the game. 5.- I would also like to see the other slots of other players when choosing the character. 6.- Master Hand has Stamina. 7.- "Imagine the frames..." Oh boy. 8.- I don't think they can add a mode from a recent game like Ultimate and Wii U. 9.- It is not that they are scrapped, but that the project is not ready yet. 10.- Yes they will, they are still pending. 11.- We also need to convert the Repeats to Video Format. 12.- Like the Openings of the previous versions, but that are video format. 13.- There will be turns of each player. 14.- Good idea! But they need platforms when they throw Sandbag. 15.- Same as Sandbag Bowling. 16.- There they have Global Smash Power. 17.- Good idea. 18.- Chibi-Robo also needed to recover. 19.- Something something... 20.- We must fix the error. 21.- Yes, there was the Teaser. 22.- OH YES, I ALSO WANT ME TO RETURN THESE STAGES! 23.- Advanced options, good! 24.- It would only happen in each Special Month. 25.- YES! 26.- Zelda Universe can help them with that. 27.- 🤣 28.- Good idea, so keep your custom controls profiles. 29.- Hmmm... 30.- GREAT IDEA! As Alternate Color, bruh. 31.- Something of a good idea, I see an Event where we face Mother Brain and an Exclusive Stage. 32.- Same as 8. 33.- YES! 34.- Like Brawl, of course! 35.- Good idea. 36.- I do not think so. 37.- Really? 38.- It's supposed to be April Fools, you silly. 39.- Nah. 40.- Ok, too much information.

[@mep6302]

About 8 with time i'm sure they can. Super Smash Bros Crusade has it and it's great but they don't have the smash ball. Another feature is that in SSBC you can activate it whenever you want (even if another player is executing it) and you don't lose it if you get out of the stage. But yeah I know the won't implement it in the next update.

[@ferr.6109]

Idea: Add a Palutena's Guidance, but the voices are like in Banjo-Kazooie/Undertale

[@Kutomi1]

5:18 YES YES YES YES YES. JUST YES.

[@mushroomfusion245]

If Lloyd gets into Ultimate they would have no excuse to not resprite him.

[@WillyWipeout]

They should add drop shield parries like in smash ultimate

[@acexyrder508]

I thought the thumbnail said "40 days left for the release of 1.2"

[@maniacaal]

Bowler Stats: Matches Played: 1089 Wins: 19 Losses: 1070

[@falcons0267]

Just when I decided to go back to the game, both of you and mcleodgaming uploaded a video. LOL. One suggestion will make the game better, releasing the 1.2 version for the public.

[@tobin2.0]

Anyone else realize tha lloyd has had the same sprite since super smash flash 1

[@hoyabobai1115]

Just 1: custom skin creator like rivals of aether

[@ikarivegerut3066]

Although a good idea, it would be abused so quickly

[@hoyabobai1115]

@@ikarivegerut3066 how?

[@islandko2402]

Someone drawing dicks on said characters.

[@hoyabobai1115]

@@islandko2402 I ment doing pallets changes

[@golden-gamingmore5931]

5:20 Oh no, i feel the nostalgia!!!

[@mikeyalex7426]

Here's an improve to make Super Smash Flash 2. Super Smash Flash 2 should be on Nintendo Switch and PlayStation 4.

[@jaediety]

Directional air dodges and wall jumps would be dope. Also I get pineappled wayyyy too much, I just want to recover against the stage cleanly

[@TheJayeagle]

Improvements you say? **pulls out giant binder of characters I want** ...What do you mean that's not what you meant?

[@blitzone213]

Hi i want to share a op trick with pacman he has an up B that can kill if the thing is red when a player touches it you cant jump or freefall the way to do it is do an Up B close to a ledge and use pacmans Grab and back throw to the up b that bassicly kill them in 0% if you do it correctly (sorry if my grammar bad)

[@ItsLanceJv3]

*i'd like the walljumping* *Changing menu music* *Respriting old characters*

[@Luiz9566]

Nice video :3 Ssf2 forever

[@rifttogo7108]

2:08 SSF2 v1.2.1: allow me to introduce myself

[@troxel3599]

i have an additonal idea for SSF2 : Customizable Colors

[@TimYoung-GiveglorytoGod]

yo, that sounds awesome! although might not be too okay for online because people might like troll and make weird/creepy? colours XD . Maybe just for local ?

[@TwinbeeMint]

20XX

[@troxel3599]

@@TimYoung-GiveglorytoGod Its impossible to not stumble upon a troll nowadays

[@TimYoung-GiveglorytoGod]

@@troxel3599 Good Point! XD

[@din_5817]

Some ideas i got for ssf2: -a casual quick play mode similar to smash ultimate with preferred rules -a competitive ranked mode with a set ruleset like smash 4 -revamped training mode (I'm taking frame data, hit boxes, hurt boxes, changeable cpu di/sdi, a training stage like bowler said, dissableable shield decay, state saving kinda like Skullgirls, and cpu input recording) -dedicated inputs for each taunts do you don't have to use a direction input for a taunt -dk needs a bit of a sprite touch up (though i would prefer Loyd gets a revamp before dk) -a james McCloud alt for fox (also maybe a Krystal and or marcus alt would be nice with it) -Let Lucario jump cancel charging aura sphere like in ultimate (also i had this idea of letting him keep charging aura sphere even if it's fully charged but that sound a bit too good) -maybe different final smashes for sheik and Zelda??? If that's even possible??? -switch between marth's English voice in ultimate and his classic Japanese voice -Omega/battlefield/small battlefield versions of stages would be really nice but also really tedious And i think that's everything i can think of

[@frogmain755]

TWO COOL TECHS! If GW inputs Up-B before double jumping, he can immediately fast fall then input double jump. When Sonic does Up-B, there is a short window where you can input side-B!

[@TheNinjaWildcat]

Donkey Kong’s down special needs to work in the air

[@deathborr]

Not only that, we need that tutorial intro stage to be playable if it isn’t

[@K0Z1E]

Honestly, the only thing I really want in SSF2 is a character from a classic FPS game, like Doomguy, Ranger, Caleb, etc.

[@crazynaut223]

I think the Palutena's Guidance could work if they substitute it for characters who either don't need voice acting or can be sampled somehow. Like Flint (Isaac's Djinn), or Telly (Chibi's friend), or maybe the cast of Tales of Symphonia or Kingdom Hearts.

[@foot2d478]

8 players mode will be an awesome feature on SSF2 so you can play with 8 Friends.

[@ibeatmywifeandkids9084]

I mean you whould have to have like seven controllers and one keyboard

[@TheSilentSaint42]

Oh boy! 10 fps!

[@ibeatmywifeandkids9084]

I'm pretty sure adobe flash wouldn't even be able to handle 8 player smash at all

[@curiosityman3704]

Make it so in Training Mode you can set the CPUs to do more actions than what we have now. I mean things like DI left, DI right, Air Dodge every possible frame, DI up, DI down, DI up & away, DI etc, SDI etc, jump every frame, attack on every possible frame (set it to Jab, or Back Air, Side Special, etc), etc.

[@mortalnebula2363]

if i could improve ssf2 character moves and also give some buffs and nerfs then it would be: Mario gets fludd and it's old down b will be his down air Luigi gets extended grab tether Making Peach's float nair and down air becoming easier to do Bowser's fire breath no longer being a projectile Yoshi's get's a extra jump or gaining vertical distance on up b if used in the air Wario no longer has his old side b and has his bike Waluigi's pirantha plant lasts longer and has hit points in order to dissapear DK's up b gains more vertical distance and last's longer Link has more ground speed and his bomb's fall faster in the air and designated faster zair can be angled Zelda and Shiek have their smash 4 down b's zelda gets more ground speed but has less knock back on her lightning kicks Sheik has a biigger hit box on her nair fair but has slightly less knock back and her up air is multi hit Captain Falcons raptor boost and up b have more vertical distance and have less lag Pikachu's f smash and down smash have more knock back JIgglypuff will be 2nd lightest ( Pichu will be the lightest character ) and has improved ground speed and tilts have more knockback Pichu has reduced damage on discharge and tilts and aerials have bigger hitboxes Lucario has more ground speed and on base form all of his attacks have more damage Kirby has a different dash attack and gets hammer flip Meta Knight can glide but for 5 sec and up b is only one hit but does a lot of damage and can glide down b has reduced lag Bandana dee's smashes has more knockback and back air kills earlier get's 4 jumps up b has more vertical distance and vertical mobility Fox and Falco's up b's have more angles ( The Mango and M2K angles which can be used by specific button inputs ) falco's up smash has more knockback and up b slightly has more distance and fox has reduced gravity and up b and side b comes faster but will not be faster than falco's Krystal has more vertical distance on her up b has more range on up tilt and up smash Samus can angle her tether dash attack has more knockback up smash has more knockback ZSS has zair and her smash 4 up b flip jump buries in the ground okay thats only half of the character cast i will do the other half next i don't think i did very well at some parts due to the lack of knowledge on the character and certain buffs are very repetitive and i barely gave any nerfs though but that's just being to harsh on my half :)

[@yoshomasa9336]

I would love a record system in training where you can make the cpu do anything just like in other fighting games

[@bup4587]

here are some ideas: 1. make an actual turbo mode, where you don't need to hit in order to instantly cancel the move's end lag; maybe call it TURBO turbo haha 2. special smash and arena on online 3. add back final smashes 4. more rewards for just playing the game, whether that be in vs mode, or online mode.

[@mikeawkurtz3668]

bup there already adding back final smashes next update

[@batguy39]

Stamina mode and Final Smash bar are the best additions imo

[@cosmicspacething3474]

Better animated victory screens with improved victory themes, Waluigi has a good one

[@thundermcqueen7523]

I would love that mcleod makes more unlockable characters, but yknow from the ones that already are in the game, like making these characters unlockables: Isaac All the smash bros 64 unlockables Falco And gnw Suggestions for unlocking methods: Gnw: clear classic mode with 10 characters in any difficulty Puff: Clear classic mode in hard difficulty without continues Falcon: Clear classic mode in medium difficulty or more in short timelapse (like n64) Ness: Reflect 10 projectiles in a match Luigi: clear classic mode as mario, but in the first stage u gotta end with a timing that ends with a "2" Like 1:32 Falco: spike 8 times in a match in sector z Isaac: play 5 times in battlefield

[@kattnn]

He's pretty much asking you to make Smash Brothers Ultimate out of SSF2.

[@mep6302]

And the problem is? SSBU is 99,99% perfect.

[@juliayesymunozbendezu775]

@@mep6302 SSF2 is special AND unique

[@gabesgabe5020]

i think the tournament mode would be great, i enjoy doing tournaments against cpus or other people.

[@confirmedhacker7433]

3:30 what if they put that stage in super smash flash 2 :O it would be named Final Battle or Named How to play

[@ivrydice0954]

Me: Fix the ledge everyone else: *radio silence

[@danielmoran3578]

I mean they did add stamina mode, but that’s about it. Great video!

[@radicool21]

Heavy agree with the replay fastforward feature so I don't need to bang my head against a wall to make a sick montage hinthintwatchmycombovideoplsthx Fr tho a Final Smash meter would be AWESOME, esp if the final smashes could be relatively balanced among chars

[@freezeblast4563]

I hope this update comes fast I’m really excited for it

[@speedylinguine]

4:30 it’s my boi!!!

[@ChloeBurbank65]

oh my god, i can't wait~~~

[@comettitun8087]

directional airdodge+wavedash would be so good

[@0DRONZER]

dk needs an resprite and they resprited ness

[@SuperSanic30]

Hey Bowler, Adventure Mode for SSF2 was already a thing, but it wasn't heard in all those years (Flash of Shadows) and wasn't work in progress (since early 2010s)

[@yugumenintenbro6263]

Remember this: Is a flash game. Do you really want all of this on a flash game? I understand this from Rivals of either and Brawhalla but SSF2 is a flash game.

[@victorn2555]

Ok and?

[@yugumenintenbro6263]

@@victorn2555 I see you were the first idiot to ask this. Understand that the flash games are kind of limited and not everything he is asking could be added.

[@victorn2555]

@@yugumenintenbro6263 That the point of the video, it just a suggestion.

[@Teddy-od7lp]

Flash, although limited, is actually capable of making all of this possible. It's only limited in accessibility in terms of how you can create programs with it, although difficult.

[@yugumenintenbro6263]

@@Teddy-od7lp Now I will ask this: Do you want SSF2 Beta 1.2 before 2020 or in 2025?

[@speedylinguine]

8:12 they added an actual ctf mode btw

[@bern.4]

6:11 i can make pit's voice, maybe cause I'm a kid (icarus) so hire me mcleod

[@drevis7704]

momentum turnaround b reverses are something i always wished were in the game.

[@alexanderquantaviousdinglebery]

they are actually probably gonna add adventure/story mode because the survey had question if you wanted "adventure mode" "all star mode" etc.

[@frogmain755]

Shrek should be in SSF2. Recognized but unexpected. Its perfect

[@danieleccleston7928]

Porting it to C++, i think that would solve almost every problem, i understand that they want to push the limits of flash, but they could do so much with C++

[@voltscreamratty]

Especially given Flash's impending death.

[@danieleccleston7928]

@@voltscreamratty indeed and I don't want to see this game that they worked so hard on go down the drain

[@ducaarimoore5290]

Add option to toggle melee air dodge so we can get our wave dashing game on. Rework Lloyd's moveset because he's IMPOSSIBLE to combo with after the resprite. Change Luffy's neutral B to his grab and give him a new neutral B, because he's missing a WHOLE move by having the same grab on both moves...and please...PLEASE...FIX CHIBI ROBO'S DOWN B-

[@izzachen6506]

Bro we need Omega Stages!

[@ArtemiyBerezhnoy]

I agree with number 20, *FIX THE PICK UP, MCLEOD*

[@curiosityman3704]

They have the compatibility for Game Cube controllers already, but I think Nintendo Switch Pro Controller compatibility would be nice. I'd really want as many controllers compatible as possible but that's not necessarily realistic.

[@alfonsoagustinfontecillato5878]

i hope a story mode

[@josenondark8288]

finally someone who mentions lloyd and donkey kong for a good resprite.....it would also be great if they put the omega stage and mii custom would be cool that i think Xd

[@inferno7682]

BOWLER UPLOADED Yesss

[@ShadowKakuz]

I think the new idea. How about the boss battle? SSBB in Story mode and the boss battle are simple! If a boss battle comes out, Mother Brain will decide...I want SSB brawl or ultimate bosses, Ansem, Xemnas, Bison, Sigma etc...

[@neyoherbert4592]

What will be gud to add to the game is to grab people and bring them back on stage like if your playing with a partner

[@darkyumer4454]

Already I'm already hype to play with Waluigi that I'm still waiting for Game 1.2 to play it; But I will be so hyped if there are these 40 ideas! oh shit !!!

[@curiosityman3704]

9:22 "No matter how many times you ask for him, Kirito will never be in SSF2... probably... hopefully. " Watch them do it in the future specifically to spite you.

[@muzammilrazvi3225]

Cool and fun ideas! I really like: 2) stats page. 5) fixed online 2v2. 11) fast forward replays. 28) saved tags with controls. Do you mind if I add them to the Universally Acceptable Improvements post, with credit to you? forums.mcleodgaming.com/viewtopic.php?f=128&t=46834

[@Skyrura]

Is that Tropical Coast I hear?

[@joycheese3617]

Online Mode Chat Enables!! Assist Trophy Characters Killable!! (If possible) more soundtrack for Sonic map!!

[@tdfgisnotloggedin5585]

if squad strike came in , i feel it still could be fun with something new

[@МагжанЖаксылык-м1с]

I think they need to put a duo characters in game ,(ice climbers , olimar , rosalina and other) because this is cool

[@windandfireproductions5358]

Make gokus side taunt do damage like in jump ultimate stars And add piccolo back to planet namek Also bowser having his voice from the mario games would be cool

[@Petronia911]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the devs have said on the forums that walljumping will be in one day. That information could be outdated, who knows.

[@youseftheh4869]

How about an updated version of this and seeing what got added and what didn't and New stuff we can add into the game

[@Sod1ePop]

YO STAMINA MODE WAS ADDED YOU ABSOLUTE PSYCHIC

[@the0therethan]

1:55 I know this has nothing to do with the video but how is he able to edit the menu music. If it’s am unlockable, what do you need to do to unlock it

[@crazynaut223]

You have to beat the final boss in World of Light

[@SCP-096-2]

I think Story Mode's protagonists would be Waluigi, Sandbag, and Bandana Dee.

[@g3n3r1cn4m3]

Do you know what software ssf2 is using after flash

[@akio0191]

Flash, still. Chrome will no longer be supporting flash, but u can still use it.

[@axelzilla7444]

a storymode would be sooooo cool

[@hampterland]

3:38 so Home Run Contest?

[@UnderfellSansTheEdgySkeleton]

I’d love a squad strike mode but you can pick as many stocks past 5 IE Project M’s crusade mode or whatever it’s called

[@janelybonieto2805]

we need Isaac's vine to also do the Samus and Link's edge thing

[@Orkbank]

The only anime newcomers I accept entering are Majin Buu and All Might

[@TheSilentSaint42]

Weird choices but ok

[@Orkbank]

@@TheSilentSaint42 think about it, it would be great to have those in because of their powers. There are many other characters they could put obviously but it's just my opinion

[@arandomperson6293]

@@Orkbank all might would have a boring moveset and buu would be a kirby/goku hybrid.

[@anasayss4263]

Adding Pokemon trainer would be cool with squitle,Ivisaur and Charizard,you can make a combo by switching

[@no_name8826]

These are some good ideas but how about Mario's wallkick jump ?

[@t-dust2]

Zss tether grab, but she actually does have two (side b and up specifically) also simon could tether with his aerials like he does in ultimate nonetheless.

[@BowlerSSF2]

T-Dust I didn’t think if the Simon one, but that is a good one

[@pinkmysteryman]

There was going to be a adventure mode in the older versions of SSF2

[@NorielBenMiel]

I guess I'm not alone in hating the "99 heartless" event

[@embazr0]

"no matter how many times you ask for him kirito will never be in ssf2"

[@WillyWipeout]

Air dodge to grab stage?

[@JucianDragonZ]

I loved Your ideas

[@s-gamer2705]

Actually.....in game files i found new mode for Arena. *Capture the flag*