Box Office Catastrophe: 'Joker: Folie à Deux' Is D.O.A. with $39-40 Million

My box office breakdown for 'Joker: Folie à Deux' which opened far below projections.
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[@divineglitch9550]

psychologist: what's the joke joker: you wouldn't get it

[@jmil843]

Not sure what Todd Phillips was thinking but at least that thread of DC is over

[@RobertParks-h7r]

Went to go see Substance sat night,Sold Out,Plenty of freaking seats for Joker 2.Pass , I went home and watched Shogun.

[@raymondsmith6870]

That is odd as Joker earned $40 mil on the weekend and The Substance earned $1.3 mil after being taken out of 1100 theaters(down to 600 theaters) this week. All those people in those packed theaters for The Substance must have got in free.

[@dnice4145]

Yeah, but Joker smokes a cigarette several times in the movie right.That ought to count for something.

[@larrykwartowitz]

The only parts I really liked lol

[@nevskislake]

"You mut let villains be villains." Yes, sir! Well said. Thank you, James for this box office breakdown.

[@drumnbassdan]

Joker was a great solo movie, no need for a sequel.

[@arizothwow1]

I dismiss this movie when I first heard it was gonna be a musical, and I was correct

[@larrykwartowitz]

The musical sequences weren't even the worst thing. They didn't really help though lol

[@amcaesar]

I finally saw "The Substance" this afternoon in Holland, in a packed theater weeks after release -- a great sign in a non-English majority market.

[@floraposteschild4184]

Especially when The Substance cost around a tenth of what Joker 2 cost to make.

[@CB-qg3yh]

Sometimes it really does come down to quality. If the product has nothing, nobody will partake

[@armandop9082]

This was a deliberate self sabotage lol

[@BaithNa]

Jason wasn't beaten to death with a crowbar. Joker beat Jason, left the building, Jason untied his mom and was making his way out when the building exploded. The explosion killed Jason, not the crowbar.

[@magnusmotor1364]

This film could easily have concluded with Joker becoming the prince of crime and meeting Batman. Really SO simple. It could show how Joker started resenting Batman/Bruce Wayne. Instead we got Todd Phillips showing off his skills.

[@KerioFive]

This was part of the Real Joker's plan all along. Jokes on us...

[@ziggy8253]

Filmmakers are being too self-indulgent. They’re forgetting that their primary job is to entertain.

[@curiositytax9360]

Choke on my nuts wideo gamer

[@angelopollock5227]

No one wanted to see a movie where the criminal joker sings about being in love and is whipped and used by a girl

[@32roho]

Studios should require producers to have a 3 movie game plan before they make a movie. That way if the movie is a hit they know what direction they are going to go.

[@MasonGrant0704]

Joker 2 is far better than most comic book movies. People say they want something different but many of these same people love low hanging fruit like Deadpool and Wolverine. They just want CGI, big booms and childish humor.

[@maxmaxed2887]

Joke is on them, clowns. This movie will become a classic masterpiece

[@fnjerseygirl]

Totally agree. Joker + Batman = success!

[@Stusama]

Your last point is so real , a lot of these creators don't seem to love or even like what they are making

[@KadeemG61]

I’m shocked that Joker got a D on CinemaScore while Megaflopolis got a D+.

[@DrDetfink]

I think this is an Arthur Fleck story. It’s more about a man who had a psychotic break with the politics about how politicians put the importance of mental health on the back burner with cutbacks on services. There’s no Batman. No Rogues gallery. No “connecting universe.” It’s just a character study. And I’m ok with that. I think most people who didn’t like it, thought it was a DC story.

[@YoungMovieReviews]

Only hope is the international box office because it opens to 81 million. So 121 million worldwide

[@aishaalamoudi599]

2019 had 9 billion dollar films. Disney alone had 7. The 2 non-Disney billion dollar films were Joker and Spiderman No Way Home (half-Disney).

[@larrykwartowitz]

I don't even mind the ultimate end being him giving up on the Joker persona, but he didn't even try to be him. It could have been great if he killed some guards, etc and at the end was overwhelmed and turned away from it all.

[@kennethcunningham3997]

I would have loved to see the look on Zaslav's face when he watched this.

[@aishaalamoudi599]

I don't think it's deserved. Joker 2 wasn't that bad and had a smart twist at the end. Spoiler Alert; he's not our Joker.

[@harshckuk]

My hall had 3 people A couple making out and me alone😢

[@robynmitchell9563]

Folie á trois.

[@ladyhotep5189]

Have you seen the trailer for "Companion "w/ Jack Quaid? That looks extremely interesting. I love a good toxic relationship movie 😂😂

[@liamdowling14]

Hollywood doesn't know what people want?. How after so many years of total fucking garbage?. I'd love to see some serious sci-fi.

[@maxmaxed2887]

You are garbage

[@everythingisawesome76]

On a more positive note. Did you watch the UFC card last nite?

[@cameronscott7304]

We could have got Mad Love adaptation or a copycat Joker (which William DeFoe wanted) or seeing Joker become a criminal mastermind but no we got misery p0rn 2.0

[@90stalgiaTV]

Come on man. That Terrifier trash is just as manipulative and devoid of anything substantive as the corporate crap you’re complaining about 😂

[@annettelouise6781]

hmm just listening to you about Joker, I envisioned the movie only having musical numbers when Joker was being extremely violent. The cue of the music starting would create anticipation. Maybe a shadowy black figure taking Joker back into custody at end of the movie, not showing Batman, but giving the idea. Could have been really cool. but I think would need a Tarantino type director to pull that off. Todd Phillips was all about Arthur Fleck. Oh scrap the batman idea, Bruce was still too young.

[@Ken-v7m]

What destroys a comic book character is when they deleted from the comic book and they put their own interest in it forgetting about the fan base so when it becomes a flop they scratch their heads.

[@big_red01027]

James Gunn's Superman movie is already DOA for me due to the cast, specifically Superman and Lois Lane.

[@RH1812]

I enjoyed it. Appreciated it was simply Joker 1 on steroids. I understand it was affected by the writers strike, but as a counter to the first, I like it was at least attempting to change. Unlike Alien Romulus.

[@EmilyFoxSeaton]

Yeh I disagree about doing a solo villain. I think Joker was the perfect way to do it. I also think there is nothing wrong with the fans wanting a power fantasy... if you slap the name of Joker on something it is not insane for the audience to think that is what they are going to get. IMHO this whole thing is classic false advertising and I think we are going to start having to demand money back and or file lawsuits.

[@AtlantaGuns]

You can’t turn the Joker into simple Jack and expect the audience to like it. You have to let the Joker do Joker things.

[@One21Jiggawatts]

I saw joker 2 on Saturday. There were less than 10 people in the theatre.

[@maxmaxed2887]

Nice, I am going for a 2nd time this weekend

[@AdrianMendoza23]

Strange days.

[@mickeyjean2895]

I think you’re forgetting that this got nothing to do with Batman……. I genuinely feel that this is why you guys end up disappointed. Yall expected too much! Now I do believe that the original plan was to have like a study about the character…. I don’t think they care to play into the superhero movie field…. Joker shouldn’t had a sequel.

[@singstreetcar5881]

The movie will break even. Gaga has her fans. They will show up for her

[@russfro]

Looking forward to your Terrifier 3 review 🤘 Also be sure to check out Hundreds of Beavers if you haven’t.

[@larrykwartowitz]

They literally had him singing more than her! Just that is a fail.

[@YoungMovieReviews]

The final blow of the old Warner Bros regime before DC Studio kicks the comic book gence needs

[@Disasterpiece22Eid-d8t]

Batman coming in for the last ten minutes thru the perspective of some kind of Arthur fever dream sounds so cool to me. In an altogether different sequel of course.

[@sangaman2007]

The irony in your take is that the Joker 2019 teen proved that you can do a solo villain movie without the hero

[@DanielTorres-pw8il]

Yeah. His logic is extremely flawed

[@faustoutloud]

Yeah but there were so many Bruce Wayne references and we saw Bruce as a kid and Alfred and that whole buildup with Bruce's Father with the joker thinking hes Bruce's brother that's massive.

[@dice268926]

All he needed was Joker taking over Arkham, watch him gain a gang and take on Croc, Riddler, Scarecrow as he proves he's the most feared villain. Go against Harvey in court AND WIN, showcasing his control over the system

[@dabakrada5077]

Too many music numbers and like you said not a real villian. Sad. I am going to miss this joker.

[@Patrick-sheen]

Last thing I wanted to see was another Joker movie. The first one was fine, hugely derivative. Need new stories and less comic stuff.

[@ziggy8253]

I am glad that “Joker 2” is a catastrophe. Hell yes.

[@marcayres8567]

Great work as always James💚🇬🇧🌱

[@shawnbennet432]

Most people with no mental illness won't understand the movie...so not suprised by the results.

[@maxmaxed2887]

People want Wolverine/Superman part 26. Show them art and they have diarrhea

[@bobthegamer1880]

Everything you said was spot on.

[@tjk3430]

100% agree. I liked Joker 1 enough but when it ended I was more interested in what happens next with him as an underworld shotcaller, not a rehash of the first film.

[@salvus7021]

Is this some type of 4th wall art piece where Todd is saying that he is the true Joker by letting it burn?

[@puzzlite]

Why does he keep saying its unusual to see critics and audience in lock-step. Its more normal than abnormal. The Joker has a 68% critic rating on Rotten Tomatoes which is not exactly resoundingly negative. It's not even as negative as The Lion King (2019) which has a 52% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. These are rare occurrences but make sense because these are popular IPs.

[@Valeska2k]

Joker is a MKULTRA project. Arthur wasn't up for the task so they k11ed him off. (Clean up) Lee was assigned to bring out the joker... Musical cues are triggers... Lee as handler. The b0mbing of the court was the last attempt to bring out "the joker"... Arthur rejects that role. Arthur was a candidate to become "the joker" from birth (via mother) he was groomed to become the agent of chaos... Wayne enterprise joker project. (Order out of chaos)

[@OdinAesthetic]

They screwed this up INTENTIONALLY. By choice. This movie was an easy lay up $500 million. Just do the thing AGAIN.

[@onlyalisaawilliams]

Wait you admitted that you went on feeding frenzy with others to try, and destroy “Prime-Lord of the rigs”,, you shouldn’t be a critic at all. Admitting it became somewhat of game to destroy, because you personally disliked it “sound’s like biases”… Shytty critic, and that’s part of the problem dealing with the public, folks trying to tank because they feel like it.

[@fartdetective2528]

Orcs : we need to stop sauron Elfs : no, we need to stop sauron Orcs : this is an impasse Elf : then we shall fight for it Epic writing, a masterpiece

[@vincentlospinuso7232]

I feel like the lack of Batman is the least of this film’s problems.

[@Dani-kq6qq]

It isnt really rare that critics and audiences agree, youtubers just dont care when critics agree with audiences. Agreement is the most common outcome.

[@HonkyReduction-b2g]

I have a question. Is any film made after the year 2000 worth watching? If so, why?

[@maxmaxed2887]

I am going to see it again this weekend

[@CarlWheatley-wi2cl]

Almost look at it as an attempted retcon of Arthur Flek from Arthur to Joker and then somehow back into Arthur again. What the hell are they doing? Arthur is already GONE or only a slither remains under the makeup. It's this pernicious infantile mentality that anything outside the box must be classified somehow and repackaged into a comfort zone that can be explained away. Exactly the same thing is happening in ROP with Sauron. It's a very immature world view.

[@davidsantacarla]

From what I’m hearing, it wasn’t the title that sunk this movie. Ooof.

[@GuyEndore]

Check your facts. The profits for the joker was split and did not go entirely to Warner brothers. They made a mistake with this one by increasing the budget so there really isn’t any profit for either of these movies for warners. They are idiots.

[@Father_Daniel]

This movie didn't need a sequel BUT it still could have been a really good profitable film. I feel Todd Phillips sabotaged his own film to piss of fans and/or the studio. If you despise the joker or the fans that much he could have just turned it down. He's too righteous to make another proper Joker movie but not righteous enough to turn down the money.

[@randallsnyder5757]

Wish Phillips would have done something else instead, maybe a f'ed up GG Allin biopic, going full circle to the beginning of his career.

[@YnotNomis]

I don't agree that he needs Batman per se for this movie (the first movie proved that) but I do admit that they shouldn't have him regressing him back to being more sad "Arthur fleck" and not embracing his Joker persona more so for the movie. By the way you forgot to mention the comic Batman # 251 by Denny O Neil and Neal Adams, the actual comic that brought Joker back to being a homicidal maniac!

[@JacobCorenthose]

Terrifier 3 next week baby! Something tells me it'll be the better clown movie.

[@sleepycrusader8871]

This movie deserves every ounce of hate that it’s getting

[@charityschmidt3958]

I’m interested to see how I feel about Joker 2 . I thought the first Joker was OK . I didn’t like it as much as everybody else. I still haven’t seen any of the Terrifier movies . I have to check it out.

[@faustoutloud]

I got just 5 words. "Joker and Musical Don't Mix" 😂 cant have a Joker Musical movie that shit wont work you wont get the comic book fans sold on that idea alone.

[@Sjb2524]

That’s a shame because I thought this would finally be a role that gaga could shine given that Harley Quinn is a little bit kooky and gaga herself is a little bit kooky however, it sounds like they just dropped the ball tremendously. At least we got a great album called Harlequin!!!🎉❤

[@frankallen3634]

Bruce was 12 in joker. Pretty sure fleck can kick his ass

[@matthewborrero9444]

I wish you wrote the screenplay

[@ladyhotep5189]

Hi James! Scoring lower than Madame web and Morbius?? Yikes!😱 Folie 'a DUHHH 😂😂 ***poltergeist sequel???? Where'd that come from?

[@aishaalamoudi599]

Avengers Endgame was more profitable than Joker! perhaps you meant in terms of profit-to-budget ratio?

[@christ1904]

The musical aspect isn't what i have a problem with. The story they tried to tell is the disappointment to me

[@jadapandy]

Musical+ Superhero= Failure.

[@RockyRoyale84]

Everything burns!

[@JohnMack-f3f]

Hopefully this movie wrecks Todd Phillips career.

[@MrRushepoo]

why would you tell a pivotal detail about the movie and then afterward say "Spoiler alert"?

[@Kausan1]

You must have missed the massive spoiler warnings beforehand

[@bobthegamer1880]

As a fan of the first one I will never watch another Todd Philips film smh so disappointed.

[@jabarimuhammad]

Lol. Bruce Wayne was a child in the last movie. Lol. He couldn’t have done anything.

[@curtiszyr]

11:49 yea in all my years of going to movie theaters, I’ve never seen an audience so disappointed and defeated in spirit, it’s almost evil what this movie did to people lol, people were not in a good mood , it was kind of unsettling

[@JohnMack-f3f]

The Joker 2 movie isn’t about The Joker, it’s about a knockoff failure wannabe.

[@enriquecabada8841]

i wonder if there will be repercussions for the wb people in charge who pushed for this release someone will probably get fired didn't this happen with the justice league snyder cut someone gave him 70 million to finish his cut because of a loud but ultimately small group thinking it would drive subcriptions to max and it didn't happen and he got fired. they just made james gunn's job harder forget climbing the mountain that is DC's reputation after years of failure he's going to have to try to pick it up and move it. Hbo's the penguin is doing a good job of giving us villains you can sympathize with without losing the villainous stuff he's not a good person and the show is successful becuase of it

[@AtlantaGuns]

This is James Gunn’s fault. He’s the big bad boss now. He has the final say to everything. He didn’t read the script and say wait, this is bad?

[@JoeyMartz]

You made that up regarding the snyder cut. Stop hating

[@Bigfish19692008]

Yeah, let's roll the dice and try something original. What could possibly happen if we stay safe. Nothing but shite,

[@omaridaniels8427]

Having seen this on Friday with a pretty packed audience, I'm not sure what film the majority of critics saw that garnered this film such a thrashing. I sat there in the theater thinking 'Okay, where is the movie I'm supposed to dislike?' Of course everyone's entitled to their own opinion- I don't think Eternals is as bad as some make it out to be (certainly better than Thor: Love and Thunder), and my favorite DCEU film is Man of Steel. Both have rotten scores. Everything that worked in that first film, whether it's the acting, directing, and score, all resonate here, and I appreciate that Phillips again took some risks, even though, apparently, those decisions didn't land with everyone. I hope the film at least proves profitable. Could be a struggle to get there, but for now, I enjoyed this. To the extent of the first film? No. But I'd give it maybe an 8 out of 10.

[@craxyman9025]

You saying that Man of Steel is the best DCEU film and that The Eternals is a decent film tells us everything we need to know about your taste in film. Nothing wrong with liking what you like but don't expect the majority of film goers to agree.

[@omaridaniels8427]

@@craxyman9025 Good thing I didn't ask the majority of moviegoers, yourself included, to agree with my taste in film.

[@craxyman9025]

@@omaridaniels8427 Ok...but you said that you don't understand why we feel like we do and that you say in the theater thinking why people disliked it 🤔. It's because we enjoy quality films.

[@omaridaniels8427]

@@craxyman9025 Ok...but me saying I don't understand doesn't mean I'm expecting them to agree, as I said earlier. Obviously me thinking Joker 2 is quality doesn't mean I expect others to feel the same. Not sure what kind of conclusion you were expecting when you throw out something like 'tells us everything we need to know about your taste in film.' As if you're the arbiter on good or bad taste in movies.

[@ghostwolf1435]

A Flop of Biblical Proportions A Sequel Nobody Wanted or Needed This Film was Horrible A Slap in the Fans Face A Horrible Ending A Boring Really Really Boring Word of Mouth was a P.S.A. and Nuked this Movie for Morbid The Executives had no idea 🤷 Phillips is going to pay a price for this Bomb 💣

[@WilliamNeish]

Couldn’t have happened to a crappier movie; Hollywood continues to bore the hell out of me.

[@py16667]

A crappier movie bombed much harder very recently, but can’t blame anyone for forgetting Borderlands

[@dice268926]

I remember watching "All Hallows Eve" and couldn't expect Art The Clown would be this popular. NOBODY SAW THAT MOVIE AT THE TIME 😂

[@MrJoshuaGray]

I liked Joker 2. Need to see it again. The shattering of a broken man is very difficult to watch. In the days since I’ve seen it I’ve processed enough to see the bigger picture, and how haunting our society truly can be.

[@lawncrew9886]

I just watched it and it was awesome

[@OriginalMasters]

A comment that takes the film at face value, thank you! And now I shall check out your channel.

[@MrJoshuaGray]

Just saw it again. Truly blown away how it all connects. So sad, bold, and thought provoking. I think people’s opinions may change after some time has passed.

[@wesleythompson7]

NOBODY ASK FOR OR WANTED A JOKER (2019) SEQUEL. TODD PHILLIPS EVEN SAID BACK IN 2019 THIS IS A STAND ALONE MOVIE NOT PART OF A TRILOGY. I'M GLAD IT TANKED I TOLD MY COUSIN AND COWORKERS A SEQUEL TO JOKER IS A HUGH MISTAKE. TODD PHILLIPS EVEN SAID JOKER WAS A ONE OFF MOVIE.

[@py16667]

You just had to type that in all caps?

[@raymondsmith6870]

Not sure that Joker will be a bigger box office failure than Megalopolis. Megalopolis is at a world wide box office of $8.0 mil on a budget of $120 mil while Joker 2 has a worldwide box office of $120 mil this weekend on a budget of $200 mil. Probably will top $200-250 mil which will be way short of breakeven but both movies will be fairly even in how much money they will lose.

[@kfitz2711]

As the one guy who didn’t care for Joker, I’m kind of glad to see this movie perform poorly. I think that over the years I’ve just lost interest in Joaquin Phoenix. I don’t find him to be a terribly interesting or charismatic performer. “Her” was pretty good though. Just my two cents.

[@thomasbaxter1371]

I've said this elsewhere but will repeat here. A $190mil mainstream movie that goes completely over the heads of and gives a big middle finger to the expectations of its fanboy mass audience - man, you gotta love that, pure punk. For me, the movie was mesmerizing from beginning to end with Phoenix's performance as the through line. It doesn't hate its audience, it just wants to wake them from the attachment to the capitalist fueled rebellion fantasies they invest in and plonk them right back into the reality of their sad little lives. Now, that is entertainment.

[@Artur-Itas]

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