Box Plank - Inspired by CORVO Drone

Box plank build based on the Australian CORVO drone at about 1/4 scale.
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[@sailingkarma6772]

We were at an industry conference where this company gave us amazing insight into exactly what they are doing. Their machines are quite interesting. Firstly they operate an autopilot in a GPS denied environment 😮

[@ddoherty5956]

Cell towers?

[@geordienufc3132]

Love those planes made out of scraps, you don't have to spends thousands to have a bundle of fun.

[@grumpyjohntxredneckrc6346]

Nice To See You Back To Your Old Master Cardboard Plane Builder Skills... Thanks Mate 😁😎

[@sapphiresphone7144]

Love your box planes, and thank you for showing the struggles in getting it to fly!

[@goku445]

Love the joy and passion you still always have when maidening a new plane. Also, what a great place to fly!

[@storkbreath]

"The cardboard drone" description caught on but those drones are made of foam board with waxed paper just like the plains flight test makes. The foam board is an amazing material for RC airplanes.

[@nedkelly9688]

The Australian drones are cardboard covered in wax, not foam board...

[@dronepilot260rc]

I hope to one day be on this level! 🎉

[@hg2.]

Fantastic! You are the Wright Brothers of cardboard. [You know what everyone in eastern Europe is thinking when they see this, right? Yes. I see the newspaper headline at the start of your video.]

[@AndrewNewton]

Ha, just call me Orville

[@FPV420.]

I'd like to see a Lancet-like airplane. The concept of a double X shape wing looks amazing. It reminds me of Star Wars.

[@RubyS.1]

These are my favorite

[@barrybegley5379]

Great Fun. Very interesting concept. This brings back so many fond memories of building and flying RC models in my late teens and early twenties. That is more than a half century ago. How did that happen? I wonder if adding some length to the wings with poly-dihedrals might add some stability to the craft. Thanks for sharing. Greetings from Ontario, Canada.

[@pcka12]

Simply make the fuselage a bit longer! Results in a far more versatile design, we used to fly control line 'flying wings' with 2.5cc diesel motors in the good old days when schoolboys were trusted with solvents, sharp instruments & even ether based fuel, now i have to prove i am over 25 to buy a potato peeler & as for a bottle of 100 paracetamol, don't even think about it!

[@macrumpton]

It looks like one of those FliteTest kits.

[@DarwinHorvath]

Great use of the zero box, perfect for this type of plane!

[@99kevin99]

Brother, I love your laugh when you finally got it all figured out and you had control over it...PRICELESS!

[@AndrewNewton]

Laugh of amazement probably. Gotta have fun somehow

[@BigMeanyVids]

As long as they get the motors, servos, and escs they can build suicide drones forever. FPV equipment is the most likely to run out of but with all the analog gear out they there is plenty. Long like Ukraine.

[@brianroberts815]

This is why everyone wants Taiwan.

[@lajoyalobos2009]

On AliExpress at least I've noticed a HUGE uptick in Ukrainian flags (indicating the location of the reviewer) for electronic components. This would make sense.

[@MauricioHernandez-de8is]

Oh really! You are a genius

[@andrewerickson6690]

At the lift and weights they are doing even old brushed motors and a relay could do the job this definitely is a game changer

[@alasdair4161]

Looking forward to FFPV.. Fibrous First Person View Andrew... Cheers.

[@AndrewNewton]

Haha. One day I'll make one worthy of FPV

[@wam7484]

I'd bet it would fly better if lighter. Perhaps you could fit a longer nose to move the motor and battery forward and thus need less extra nose weight to make CG. The bane of cardboard has always been it's weight disadvantage, so anything you can do to lighten the design helps.

[@craigmcdonald-rcgliding]

Awesome fun..!! Love those experiments... I am always playing with ideas like that...!! You have a knack for making boxes fly... very well done...

[@AerialWaviator]

From Zero, to a fully Inspired Box Plank. Great back story on this one. Nice project Andrew, delivered well under budget with exceptional entertainment value.

[@DimestoreLiam]

Sweet! I had the same thought when Iread that article, but don’t have the technical know-how... It’s so cool to see someone actually build it- well done, sir!!!

[@kng128]

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[@alexj3709]

Great fun to watch. You are the master of making a working RC plane out of a few spare parts and a box from the dumpster. It does inspire us to have a go as well. Thanks for the video!

[@1212354a]

Looks good! Thanks for showing us the build and your cg trials. I have had the same experience trying different batteries, esc’s and prop sizes. More power is usually a good thing, provided you upsize the esc.

[@jac_pilot_theam_VH]

Eres un maestro felicidades Que tengas una gran semana 😃

[@MasboyRC]

Cardboard plane so hilarious as always 😂

[@bokusimondesu]

Nice build! Now I know that I’ve missed seeing you play with flying cardboard! 😊

[@kwadyote]

Very nice. Planks and mostly what I build and fly.

[@sUASNews]

Wonderful idea, well done

[@JBGecko13yt]

well I came for the cardboard plane but I love your much larger distraction with the beautiful ocean

[@AndrewNewton]

and hopefully the two will never meet

[@danieldare2640]

Brilliant just great vid, thank you

[@AndrewNewton]

A bit of cheap fun

[@smokster0604]

Well done gotta love flight ✈️

[@dustinhanlin]

Man, I really wish there was a way to get you over here to hang out with the Flite Test guys in my back yard sometime. It would be a grand time.

[@AndrewNewton]

That would be fun.

[@dustinhanlin]

@@AndrewNewton Flite Fest is at the end of June this year. Still plenty of time to plan an international trip. Just sayin'. . . But seriously, if you ever do consider a trip over here and genuinely hope to spend a bit of time with the FT guys, Flite Fest (and the month leading up to it) is not ideal. With all the work that goes into the event and so many people here, it's hard for the guys to find much time to mingle outside of photo ops, autographs, or friendly greetings. But it really is an amazing event.

[@tarasn.6892]

Thanks for interesting content

[@AndrewNewton]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@janoshorvath5154]

Cool video! I saw a riport about these kind of drones recently, and also thought that it would be nice to build one out of foam board, because it looks simple and sturdy, just what I need. Your video helped me a lot to see what can be expected, thank you for that! :)

[@55Rumble]

I have often thought about taking some gear to the field and building a plane right there... Now you've done it! Lol... Nice work Andrew...

[@AndrewNewton]

That would be a fun project

[@Videolinquency]

Matching military cutting edge technology using trash? You could teach MacGyver a thing or two. Thanks for not recognizing the concept 'impossible'. The pure insolence of that project brightened my day.

[@AndrewNewton]

Haha, insolence, love it.

[@seewind]

Impressive! Keep the videos coming!

[@AndrewNewton]

Thanks Jim. Happy sailing!

[@GroundControlRC]

A very nice project! I've never attempted a Plank Plane. Well Done! See you in the Air!

[@toolbaggers]

You never know, you could have been the inspiration of the CORVO

[@AndrewNewton]

Ha, I guess it's possible

[@migalito1955]

Cool beans... You beat me too it. I did build a pair of profile planes using foam core board that I am waiting on an ordered Eflite 480 outrunner to show up for. I had tried a smaller brushed motor in the smaller profile plane and the power was lacking because in spite of weighing less than 3 ounces a brushed 8520 motor stolen from a 1 ounce Minimum RC plane was far to little. On the other hand the 8520 does a bang up job connected to a Guillow's Flying Machine along with micro electronics. I really don't like the foam core board for durability and would like to try gator board or a decent foam if I can order it.

[@rmirov]

I've built ~5 planks now with similar design (though with foamcore and 2205 motors). I've had very stable flights with the CG at 17% back from the leading edge. I like planks due to the very simple construction and savings in servos, pushrods, etc. You commented mid-flight that a "better thrust angle" was needed. Better is more up or more down ?

[@AndrewNewton]

Thanks for the info!

[@gerrylorimer599]

I wonder whether it would be better to have larger end pieces to stop air dumping off the end of the wingtips. Like the airliners. It may give it more lift.

[@theoztreecrasher2647]

Your grenade throwing arm needs a bit of gym work there, Andrei! 😉

[@TERRYB0688]

The media seem fascinated in the cardboard plane, aero modellers have been building these for years, the exciting part is adding latest tech to it with gps etc

[@m.p.472]

Hello to Australia from cold rainy central Europe 🙂 Nice video, thank you for upload 👍 Q1: How did you get longitudinal (pitch) stability without elevator or autostable airfoil? Q2: Do you use elevons for roll/pitch control? Q3: Do you plan to build bigger one? (if any bigger cardboard box will appear in your neighborhood) 🙂 Thank you for eventual answers.. Have a nice day downthere! eMPi

[@AndrewNewton]

Hello MP. Yes all flying wings or planks need elevons for control, and this one needed some reflex for level flight. It would be better to have a proper plank airfoil with reflex built in.

[@leechild4655]

Thats a fun design there. You are right it needs a good power set and all the weight a tad forward of the center of gravity. I was thinking maybe less throws on the flaps just to keep it from tipping the wing so easy? Could you set it up for some gyro and switch between modes?

[@AndrewNewton]

I would never put a gyro on these box builds. Not in the right spirit

[@The_Pub_]

Looked like a better day for a dive mate!

[@collinmccallum]

very cool!!

[@edwardfletcher7790]

Nice work 👍 This would be handy in Ukraine !

[@AndrewNewton]

Thanks! 👍

[@goranwestling4766]

Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@EnglishTurbines]

It's blowing and raining here Andrew...I know it's harder to do but a semi symmetrical wing section would work better I think....A longer Fuz definitely...🤔🙄😳🇬🇧

[@AndrewNewton]

Airfoil needs camber and reflex I suspect

[@EnglishTurbines]

@@AndrewNewton Ideally, but a Semi symmetrical wing would be easier.....I think you should cut one in foam, you know, a proper reflex section. You could show our Chinese friends what they're doing wrong. I've yet to see them do a proper reflex wing section on anything....🤔😳🇬🇧

[@olsu3477]

On my plank with Epller 361 airfoil, CG was on 20.5-21% Crord

[@AndrewNewton]

Thanks Ol Su, good information

[@FPVREVIEWS]

with such fwd CG, hence so much downforce required (evidenced by the extreme reflex in the elevons, the opposite of what you need for good lift), what is lacking is not more control throws, but more lift. much of the CL coefficient of lift (total amount of lift that the wing can generate) is being wasted just to attain pitch stability (which is still not very good). Plank flying wings use a special airfoil, with most of the lift being generated by a unique shape on the leading edge. An even better solution is to add a horizontal stab... I wonder how well the Corvo actually flies, and how well it would fly it it were not using this strange and inefficient configuration.?? love your ingenuity with the cardboard construction. often these cardboard planes of yours fly better than the production models. the configuration that you are replicating got you on the performance in this case. considering that, you made it fly remarkably well.

[@marielizysurourcq]

I agree that a strenghtened (carbon rod) large horizontal stab could be there since there is a vertical tail already. I would even make it removable for transport. This would remove most of the reflex

[@AndrewNewton]

Thanks for the expert tips again. Got me researching plank airfoils now

[@H_H-q5t]

Thanks mate

[@88njtrigg88]

These drones have a range of 160km! They must drop the batteries as depleted.

[@hardeepsingh68]

Wonderful creation. I am feeling motivated to build one. By the way, what is the wingspan please ?

[@AndrewNewton]

Thanks Hardeep. About 600mm

[@hardeepsingh68]

​@@AndrewNewtonThanks a lot. You have really done a wonderful work 👍🏽

[@murrayrandall2085]

I'm saving my Weetbix boxes for Ukraine.....that should scare the Russians. Might add a jar of Vegemite.......great innovation.....

[@shavian208]

A few of my pickled onions in the payload would absolutely terrify them!

[@ddoherty5956]

Chemical warfare is banned! Marmite or nothing 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧😉👍

[@PlayFrost]

as a ukrainian now i need to ask you about some documentation or image file where can I get all the measurements to create such a 1:1 model .. to help my country. Thanks for a video

[@tdb7992]

Our cardboard drones just destroyed a few Russian fighters. Really happy we could help you!

[@SaLaGaDH]

@@tdb7992 thank for your for support ❤

[@davidk6264]

How is the pitch control on that thing? I understand it is a flying wing but it is a very short plane with no vertical stabilizer.

[@AndrewNewton]

I think you mean no horizontal stab? Yes planks are odd, but if you get CG spot on they fly. Reflex in the elevons or airfoil provides pitch stability

[@1975CEES]

work on this and do more different types we want to see

[@julianhumphrey4843]

Brilliant im now surprised flitetest have not done a single puller plank plane

[@grifter77]

What is your flying location? It looks fantastic :-)

[@RamFunwind]

Maquina!!

[@javir1669]

Put a firecracker abort in it and used as a kamikaze drone

[@rodinvillarosa2924]

Ah...I remember your "Boxlatus"

[@d.jensen5153]

Or was it a Boxler?

[@edwardlove4300]

📦 it fly's pretty good 😊

[@flightlieutenant6902]

Great one Andrew. Cheers mate 😊👍🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

[@akahenke]

Try to use wood-glue instead its much stiffer

[@franciscoe.9989]

SYPAQ claims that the cardboard drone ( bigger than yours) is 120km Distance range and can carry 5 KG payload. ( that is an UAV drone) Question for you please Is that possible? The battery has to be 30, 000 mAh With a flight controller

[@AndrewNewton]

5kg payload plus batteries does not seem possible to me, but most GPS flight controllers could handle the mission. You dont need RC signal all the way because the FC could fly the mission by itself.

[@franciscoe.9989]

@Andrew Newton thanks for your reply I am referring to the battery capacity to accomplish the 120 km. I am familiar with UAV. I know how to set up coordinates for autonomous flight

[@VallenChaosValiant]

Winged aircraft are more energy efficient than VTOL drones because they can glide, thus conserving energy in long trips. This is why helicopters always had shorter range than winged crafts of the same tonnage.

[@88njtrigg88]

Maybe the depleted batteries are ejected?

[@88njtrigg88]

@@franciscoe.9989 Yes you are correct, l talk way above my pay crade.

[@wierrieassie9447]

What kind of engine did you use?

[@AndrewNewton]

Watch the video

[@boriscrisp518]

What a great video! This makes the hobby really accessable for n00bs like me. You rally can make a working, flying plane out of some shitty old cardboard and tape. This is more inspiring than all the elitist, snobby tech videos that make flying seem like magic

[@wam7484]

I know it's part of the game, but cardboard is too heavy and your wing loading is probably responsible for the flight issues. Take any nicely designed foam poster board plane and dupe it in cardboard and you'll hate the result. I wonder why the CORVO didn't use poster board. Equally transparent to radar, much lighter and even stiffer. Sure cardboard is free, but for this application I don't think one dollar per board is any kind of factor. Perhaps these are being locally reproduced in Ukrainian homes and cardboard is all that's available. But given you need a lot of pretty significant electronics, that doesn't seem likely.

[@SianaGearz]

Lighter? Really?

[@garycaruso4883]

By poster board you mean paper-foam-paper sandwich? Flite Test like (readi board) is what they used for the drone, and does come out stiffer and lighter than pure cardboard.

[@storkbreath]

Foam board is what the CORVO drones are made from.

[@bowenbrown]

I saw one of these at the avalon airshow. I am 99% sure its made from flite test foamboard.

[@AndrewNewton]

Lucky you, would have been cool to see it in the flesh

[@bowenbrown]

@@AndrewNewton Seemed like a normal scratch built rc plane to me 🤷‍♂️

[@tuttuti123]

@@bowenbrown yknow I wouldn't be surprised if the actual one has to be assembled using hot glue

[@iandaly8786]

Could you make a better cardboard plane that is capable of flying very slowly and post a plan for that? I am 74 and reactions are not so quick anymore, and being a pensioner cardboard planes are all I can afford. I have all the radio gear as that doesn't get damaged in the prangs that I have had.

[@AndrewNewton]

Might be tricky with just cardboard but worth a try, I'll think about designs

[@iandaly8786]

@@AndrewNewton Thanks that will be good. I don't think I would be the only person interested.

[@favoritos2420]

Hi Bro!!! Do you have the project to print?

[@AndrewNewton]

Sorry, no. Just make it up like I did.

[@МихайлоКушнір-э3ь]

Greetings to You from ukrainian subscriber!!! Slava Ukraini!!! 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦

[@aloysiusjones3985]

That’s how they build the Russian Armata tanks. 🇦🇺👍🍺

[@ddoherty5956]

Does the originalhave the front of the fusalge wrapping over the front of the wing?

[@AndrewNewton]

Not sure. Can you do a search and let me know?

[@ddoherty5956]

@@AndrewNewton just found a picture and it looks like it blends over the top of the wing, might reduce your need for speed a little and improve the handling? I think the aileons are tapered too, being wider at the body. Looking forward to seeing mk II 👍🇬🇧

[@soosmate]

Haha awesome! Not exactly totally stable, reminds me of my home made LIDL glider 🙂

[@Gost0141]

Please can you make a tutorial

[@AndrewNewton]

The video is the tutorial. Just grab a box and start experimenting

[@gregdavidd]

Why not use coroplast instead of cardboard? Its very cheap and also I think it is as light while being waterproof and stiffer.

[@AndrewNewton]

Would be tougher but this project is all about using model shipping boxes.

[@TheComputec]

proof of concept ... Plus cardboard is ubiquitous and free

[@ianmyles9025]

impressive !

[@robertmccarthy6295]

Care to post plans

[@frasersteen]

I'll give you several thousand aud for it!

[@AndrewNewton]

Haha, remember to take your medication

[@TodoRadegast]

How does it work without elevators?

[@AndrewNewton]

Control surfaces on flying wings act as elevators and ailerons at the same time.

[@patomahony9747]

@@AndrewNewtonwhat kind of rc transmitter are you using. Looks nice and ergonomic for us older folks

[@mathiaslist6705]

Ever one thougth about impregnating cardboard by dissolving styrofoam in acetone --- or raisin if you know how to forage it

[@AndrewNewton]

No I haven't. The most I would do with these quick builds is cover with tape.

[@FourthWayRanch]

just put some thompsons on it.

[@ivanvanogre-nd1sw]

Box PlanE, correct? Not Box PlanK, right? Good video.

[@AndrewNewton]

Plank plane?

[@ivanvanogre-nd1sw]

A plane made out of a box. The word "plank' connotes wood.

[@AndrewNewton]

@@ivanvanogre-nd1sw "Plank" is also the name for a flying wing with no sweep angle. Could be any construction material.

[@bomberaustychunksbruv4119]

Mr Newton, why not do a little design and then get a printer to knock em out on some card, they would sell like hotcakes!. And we all would be flying your design around for a laugh!. Do a little vid on how to build it etc.

[@AndrewNewton]

Nice idea, but I'm too lazy

[@tonyyarbray]

and as i hoped Ukraine turned them into cheap/free hard to detect effective weapons

[@rjung_ch]

👍💪✌

[@AramTigran5754]

Do you sell them

[@AndrewNewton]

No it's just a rough wing made from rubbish.

[@tacticoolnukes849]

It's a very simple design so if you want one, it would be an excellent design to learn to build with!

[@AramTigran5754]

Can provide the measurements please?

[@Gma7788]

It clearly needs a longer body to put the tail much further away from the main wings to stabilise the whole thing. Clearly designers know what they're doing. It's designed to go down and not worry about. A low quality flying experience. Only good enough for a video but not worth having.

[@TheComputec]

You should ask the video maker for a refund. You seem unhappy with his work

[@suisinghoraceho2403]

I wonder how many bullets it takes on average to shoot down a drone like this? Can Ukraine get to the point where the drones are actually cheaper than the bullets to shoot them down?

[@Scriptedviolince]

They're already cheap enough that one standard Russian infantry squad mag dumping costs more than the drone, at least if you're calculating using market price for 7.62x39mm ammo.

[@josephlopez4041]

Cardboard drones retro cardboard boat's retro cardboard mini's for kid's next

[@ericwolfgangragay4185]

Hope you can send me one...

[@AndrewNewton]

You probably have on in your trash can

[@bobjoatmon1993]

With enough power you could fly a real brick (with inadequate wings [or even no wings if ridiculously overpowered , haha] ) so with today's motors and batteries it's not really that amazing what the hot wire carved Styrofoam and cardboard platforms can be flown

[@BruceHoult]

Aerodynamic efficiency does make a difference to range / endurance though, which is important in the Ukraine situation. Cheapness is good too -- GPS and autopilots and even inertial navigation sensors are incredibly small and cheap now.

[@bobjoatmon1993]

@@BruceHoult and I imagine that drug smuggling will be changing real soon where radar invisible drones carry smaller amounts to scattered preset locations where someone is waiting to receive it. Law enforcement can't cover everywhere so instead of one big 1000 kilo load you'd have, say 500 each 2 kg loads going to 500 different places / receivers, dozens up to hundreds of miles from the border (and scattered along the border too).

[@BruceHoult]

@@bobjoatmon1993 perhaps it's time to take another approach to drugs?

[@bobjoatmon1993]

@@BruceHoult oh yes, the war on drugs was lost a long time ago and has led to the militarization of the US police (and in my opinion turned a lot of them into jackbooted authoritarian thugs in uniform, and I'm an old white guy Conservative who should be a law&order guy but instead despise the police) So my take is let "evolution in action" take place. Let people use any drugs the want BUT if they injure anyone or cause property damage while F'd up then they don't go to jail, they get a indentured servant collar (with a small decapitation charge in it) and have to work for society for the rest of their life. And not live with any family, they gave that up when they were irresponsible using drugs. Or set up a Purgatory enclave of a thousand square miles out in the west US and dump all the convicted into it where they can be dog eat dog. Make it death to cross back out. Ship in food and water and let them sort out their own society (want to bet it'll be strongest and most viscous rules?). No more prisons, just a fence with automated machine guns and anti aircraft missiles around it. Residents didn't like the US laws and customs, let them make a society on their own inside the boundaries.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

blimey, genius. anything to annoy putin.

[@AndrewNewton]

Ha, yes

[@marklewfatt4374]

Wrong cardboard bro,we use empty beer carton specially V.B armed with the latest longneck missile guided by a alcoholic

[@AndrewNewton]

Haha, longneck missiles. Just have to get them to land intact.

[@atw98]

Who's become a slick producer? You should call em been your thing for over half a decade or more by now....🙂