Boxer Combat Reconnaissance Vehicle (CRV) - Australian Recon

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Matsimus

Matsimus

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@stevenhughes1465
@stevenhughes1465 5 жыл бұрын
I’m X Military in Australia and I think it’s very impressive. Our Forces received the first one today.
@anonymusum
@anonymusum 5 жыл бұрын
Great. congrats.
@defencebangladesh4068
@defencebangladesh4068 5 жыл бұрын
Congrats
@cvdheyden
@cvdheyden 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats. Good luck!
@ozdavemcgee2079
@ozdavemcgee2079 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldnt it be nice if our government invested more in our forces. Bought a few toys for the diggers to play with swap out get some ideas and design, build, and export our own REME built tough lol. Might get some money onto the Army then
@YaMomsOyster
@YaMomsOyster 3 жыл бұрын
It’s like Xmas for the ADF at the moment and it’s about time they stopped being neglected . They are starting to take our position in the world very seriously in Canberra.
@politenessman3901
@politenessman3901 7 жыл бұрын
Range is a really big issue for Australian kit, people who haven't been up north frequently have trouble understanding some of the distances up there. Boxer CRV looks like a good option, all I ask is that defence procurement leave it the F alone, don't try to improve it, jacking up the cost and compromising capability to get changes that are more about people marking their beauracratic territory than operational need.
@Shelldrakeaus
@Shelldrakeaus 7 жыл бұрын
Politenessman they will do the land125 all over again. they will take the 2nd hand yank strikers rather then buying somthing new. I'm still in shock they got the Gwagons rather the 2nd hand humvees. I'm not jaded at all im just pissed we got the m777's rather then Self propelled.
@politenessman3901
@politenessman3901 7 жыл бұрын
re the m777s I agree, but you can make an argument that since we only have 57 tanks (and last time I looked most of those are in storage), buying SP guns to support an armoured battlegroup we can't field is over the top.
@ianfarr-wharton1000
@ianfarr-wharton1000 7 жыл бұрын
I'm Australian and I like the AMV35 a lot better then the boxer...
@willm687
@willm687 7 жыл бұрын
why would the army get a punch of left hand drives over right
@MrUlyseses
@MrUlyseses 7 жыл бұрын
The ADF never procures anything as is :(
@solowingborders3239
@solowingborders3239 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man, I see a video on the ADF; I click.
@Zappyguy111
@Zappyguy111 3 жыл бұрын
Just saw a pair of boxers being transported the other day, I was truly blown away at how big they were. I initially thought they were LAV's, but quickly realised everything was just bigger. The wheels were bigger, the vehicle was taller, it hung out from the sides of the wide trailer. It wasn't until I saw the 30mm cannon, then I realised it was a boxer and got to enjoy a little moment gawking at it as I overtook the truck.
@termitreter6545
@termitreter6545 2 жыл бұрын
Boxer is huge, is that new gen of giant 8x8 vehicles. And the Australian Boxers especially are more like light Tanks on wheels. Theyre apparently 40 ton heavy; means theyre close to the weight of russian MBTs and same as the heaviest IFVs. Theres been some rumors they actually struggle a bit with the heavy weight (feature creep?), but theres not anything official. I hope it works out smoothly enough.
@gjiachengwan8771
@gjiachengwan8771 Жыл бұрын
小兒為我會員6 6,9
@cherrypoptart2001
@cherrypoptart2001 Жыл бұрын
I saw a picture of a boxer next to a lav, made it look like a toy
@militaryforumlt5628
@militaryforumlt5628 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this one. Great review. Just a little note. The computer model drawing shown at 10:58 is the Boxer for Lithuanian Land Force with a Samson Mk II 30mm gun and Spike-LR AT missiles which is officially an IFV. It's a done order and we'll be getting 88 of those with deliveries starting this year. There was a lot of fuss (and competition) in Lithuania over this procurement (remember we're a tiny country and half a billion USD for some hardware is a great deal of cash for us). But from the very beginning the Boxer was unofficially considered to be the best vehicle out there even if not the cheapest. My only regret is that we didn't go for the Lance turret. But I guess you can't have it all. Even with Samson Mk II it's going to be one hell of a machine. There is absolutely no way Australia could go wrong with this one.
@jonny2954
@jonny2954 7 жыл бұрын
The lithuanian boxer was even tested with the RCT30 (Puma turret), however that was even more expensive than the LANCE.
@scottyfox6376
@scottyfox6376 7 жыл бұрын
Being such a large country we desperately need long range rapid deployment vehicles. Tracked vehicles are vital for all terrain mobility but logistical support to cover long range missions need to be considered. I love this "Boxer" as a 8×8 class leader.👍
@26Rudders
@26Rudders 6 жыл бұрын
I am an Aussie. Thanks for the vid. This is the best source of information for this vehicle which is excellent. You get a subscription from me.
@barticus04
@barticus04 6 жыл бұрын
It's a done deal, Australia is getting this and it's being built where I live.
@sir.blamey31
@sir.blamey31 5 жыл бұрын
Where’s that
@MrSimonw58
@MrSimonw58 5 жыл бұрын
Facken ripper ... backpackers must be shitting bricks
@Adi-kf6bq
@Adi-kf6bq 5 жыл бұрын
Well as far as i know it is a requirement from the australien army that the Boxer for the australien army gets build there. Where I work we built the first i belive 6 test vehicles that were sent to australia to be tested. I worked a bit on it, since we had trouble building them in time with that litle amount of people that were planned to work on it so they asked for some trainee. I can say it is a great vehicle an fun to work on
@michaelwood8413
@michaelwood8413 5 жыл бұрын
They are made in the UK
@Adi-kf6bq
@Adi-kf6bq 5 жыл бұрын
@@michaelwood8413 yes, but not the first ones that were send to be tested
@nickolasgoldinak3132
@nickolasgoldinak3132 7 жыл бұрын
2:16 Here you can see a pair of boxers in there natural enviroment
@flashfire2906
@flashfire2906 6 жыл бұрын
simply remarkable.
@xadrikxaulxu
@xadrikxaulxu 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like Pucka... :P
@ericferguson9989
@ericferguson9989 7 жыл бұрын
I drive a Honda CRV (Combat reconnaissance vehicle?....)
@garyfoale3707
@garyfoale3707 7 жыл бұрын
Eric Ferguson civilian reconnaissance vehicle?
@andrewheil1158
@andrewheil1158 7 жыл бұрын
Eric Ferguson No, probably Caffeine Reconnaissance Vehicle
@wiryantirta
@wiryantirta 7 жыл бұрын
Eric Ferguson children reconnaissance vehicle No please don't take me to jail
@loyaltotheend4019
@loyaltotheend4019 7 жыл бұрын
Eric Ferguson chicks rec v.
@cyberdogk9au
@cyberdogk9au 7 жыл бұрын
That one sounds a bit dodgy.
@Hortifox_the_gardener
@Hortifox_the_gardener 7 жыл бұрын
Cool video - as always :D I saw a couple Boxer last year. I live relatively near to some Bundeswehr proving/maneuver grounds at the Polish border. Always go to pick mushrooms right outside said fields (in the 90s maybe even inside but that is a little too stupid and potentially expensive for my customs). Right before I get there I pass this road through the forest (around "Cottbus" there is nothing but forest!) and on the right hand there is a tank road (they build it in the 90s since the tanks always crushed the road but the GDR didn't care at all - their roads were shit anyways) made of sand. A group of Boxers was there. And they crossed the road at a tank intersection (laid with heavy cobblestones) while I had to wait at a red light. They are so impressive! This video can't even show a third of their glory. They look nice here and all. But in reality they are *so huge!* And they look very futuristic. Kraut space magic futuristic! What I actually liked the most was that there were no real notable blue/black fumes coming out of the vehicle. Older tanks and IFVs and even the Leo2 could fit in a painting from the 19th century but the Boxer? Comparable to a brand new inner city bus in fumes and also fume smell. For military equipment we speak about a very very clean and efficient engine here!
@martijntjuu1
@martijntjuu1 7 жыл бұрын
Please do the fennek recon and the rest of the boxers
@EliKirkMusic
@EliKirkMusic 7 жыл бұрын
Ik kan aan je naam zien waarom, haha.
@donderjager4770
@donderjager4770 7 жыл бұрын
ik vat m XD
@wiryantirta
@wiryantirta 7 жыл бұрын
martijntjuu1 luchs first then we do Fennek (in historical order) ;)
@HanSolo__
@HanSolo__ 5 жыл бұрын
Do the Fennek Mati! Pls..
@elliotplummer8666
@elliotplummer8666 6 жыл бұрын
As an Australian I'm very glad too see this vehicle coming our way, and that you aprove of the vehicle😂👍
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 5 жыл бұрын
This is the absolute best idea I've seen, because the drop-in modules mean that a military can have several spare vehicles in reserve, and the range, mobility, and armament make it an ideal infantry delivery and support vehicle.
@kVkV-sw5se
@kVkV-sw5se 6 жыл бұрын
All I can say is that when I was in Armoured Recon we had the M113A1 ..... I think the Boxer is a bit of an improvement :) I completely agree that the 30mm armament is a necessary choice for the Australian Recon role. The video talks about not getting engaged in any combat as a recon unit, but the function of an armoured recon unit in the Australian Defence Force often involves engaging the enemy for a whole range of reasons. Most people that know of armoured recon seem to think the objective is to sneak around behind enemy lines avoiding contact. While this is a big part of it, there are many circumstances where a unit will intentionally engage an enemy. Even if it's just to piss them off a bit :) When that happens a 30mm bit of kit would be very handy.
@termitreter6545
@termitreter6545 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, currently it feels like "recon vehicles" becomes an excuse for everyone to get themselves some light tanks xD
@cathulhu-q7y
@cathulhu-q7y 2 ай бұрын
@@termitreter6545 until 2002 germany operated Leopard 1A5´s as heavy recon vehicles in the heavy recon platoons
@DaOneJoel
@DaOneJoel 7 жыл бұрын
OVERVIEW TIME!! Also, great intro as always.
@RedEffectChannel
@RedEffectChannel 7 жыл бұрын
wonderful video as always, really like this vehicle.
@drumdust
@drumdust 6 жыл бұрын
Australian Government just today picked the Boxer over the BAE AMV 35. Awesome!!
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 6 жыл бұрын
yeah at least we arent paying the Americans for more shit i suppose?
@drumdust
@drumdust 6 жыл бұрын
German quality :)
@goldenkai2991
@goldenkai2991 6 жыл бұрын
Looking at re enlisting, this thing is the shizzle
@bigwebbs3413
@bigwebbs3413 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate for the video great to one about the Aussies. Its said to see the ASLAV go but this will be a great improvement on capability
@angrychicken5494
@angrychicken5494 5 жыл бұрын
I am just glad that the Australian army has something that looks good
@ramtiger10
@ramtiger10 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent decision to have the Boxer in the Australian Army inventory. This vehicle will prove itself over time in service. The interchange option is a huge plus.The key ingredient covered in your article was speed, 30mm main gun and a decent body design to survive ied's and mines. And it's got a V8 :) :)
@peskykrogan6145
@peskykrogan6145 6 жыл бұрын
contract has been awarded to rheinmetall today 14th march 2018 and to be built in Queensland, its a great choice as well.
@tomaszigutis3322
@tomaszigutis3322 7 жыл бұрын
10:55 Lithuanian version boxer (Vilkas)
@katletasdomkratas4092
@katletasdomkratas4092 7 жыл бұрын
nenurodytas "Karinės paslaptys"/ Eduardo Silva (man atrodo jis šituos modelius daro) copyright.
@marijuscaterpillar7709
@marijuscaterpillar7709 6 жыл бұрын
ZeOverman cool :-) in lithuanian it wolf 👍
@landscape110
@landscape110 6 жыл бұрын
Rheinmetall Defence Australia has been awarded the Land 400 Phase 2 contract to replace the Mounted the ASLAV as of 14 March 2018.
@Irondrone4
@Irondrone4 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing that optic cylinder retract into the turret has sealed my opinion about this vehicle. As long as I would be in charge of pressing the button that makes that thing go up and down, and I can see it going up and down, I would gladly be a crew member. I would spend an inordinate amount of time "testing" this system, giggling like a little school girl while doing so, because I am just that easy to amuse.
@LockLT
@LockLT 7 жыл бұрын
visualisation on 11:00 looks like boxer with Israelian turret and spiker AT system. Just like my country (Lithuania) just purchased 88 of them. Also i think so because there is logo of wolf on the side, and our boxers will be called Vilkas that means Wolf in lithuanian
@user-py9cy1sy9u
@user-py9cy1sy9u 7 жыл бұрын
Yes it is. Its samson mkII turret with 30mm Mk44 Bushmaster II chain gun.
@yoavcohen66
@yoavcohen66 6 жыл бұрын
Nice catch..it did looked familiar
@eddgrs9193
@eddgrs9193 5 жыл бұрын
So the Israelis can also build modules for this platform ? This truly is a military LEGO vehicle :)
@DarkHorseSki
@DarkHorseSki Жыл бұрын
Rheinmetall makes some spectacular military products. The Boxer is the best wheeled combat vehicle currently available.
@Gripen39C
@Gripen39C 5 жыл бұрын
Update for you... The Australian Army has just taken delivery of the first two of 212 on order. This vehicle is highly impressive, but you don't mention it's amphibious capability- the ASLAAV that it is replacing in the CRV role is capable of 8kts for around 25nm in Sea State 2. You are right about the 30mm main gun, far superior to the ASLAAV's 25mm gun. Would love to see you present the Phase 3 IFV variant, this will be a Tracked version with a Redback 40mm turret (an Aussie weapon that was sold to the yanks, you got to check that out- the future of weapons). My personal opinion of this system is - it's the Army's version of MEKO. Glad we bought them. Ja Worsley ODIN Media.
@anthony9thompson
@anthony9thompson 5 жыл бұрын
Gripen39C not amphibious
@WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs
@WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs 5 жыл бұрын
At 38.5 tons in combat form its heavier than a ww2 Sherman tank. They might be able to make it float with a floatation screen.
@gilde915
@gilde915 7 жыл бұрын
i worked with the boxer in a combat enviroment ....and i loved the it.....the ride on a unpaved road or light offroad is realy nice....and and the mk is a very good backup if your goin in hot
@reserva120
@reserva120 7 жыл бұрын
this sets the standard..have to see how the new Israeli 8 wheel compares. But doubt anything will ever match the usefulness of the Boxer for some time. Great job on the report..enjoyed the "very current report of a active bidding "..cheers Allan
@Jermo7899
@Jermo7899 4 жыл бұрын
I love how it looks. I could see myself driving this around town with the top down.
@mickymadbevo
@mickymadbevo 7 жыл бұрын
great video and the Boxer is a fantastic CRV the Australian Army will have an awesome wheeled vehicle if selected for Land 400
@Shelldrakeaus
@Shelldrakeaus 7 жыл бұрын
michael Scales then they will pick the cheapest. they did it with land125 when they choice 2nd hand m777's over brand new self propelled
@mickymadbevo
@mickymadbevo 7 жыл бұрын
Boba Fett True I was loaded off at additional towed 155mm instead of SPH. there was a lot of controversy surrounding the South Korean howitzer.
@mickymadbevo
@mickymadbevo 7 жыл бұрын
Boba Fett pissed not loaded lol
@Shelldrakeaus
@Shelldrakeaus 7 жыл бұрын
michael Scales the K9 thunder. we had a few demo videos shown to us back when I was in the artillery i got all pumped for then they shafted us
@ianfarr-wharton1000
@ianfarr-wharton1000 7 жыл бұрын
I'm Australian and I like the AMV35 a lot better then the boxer...
@braddekker7359
@braddekker7359 5 жыл бұрын
Good replacement to the supa cats and bushmasters 2/14th b squadron used in my day. the bigger question is when are they going to replace the assault recon and qrf aslavs with a turreted boxer.....I'm a aslav man through and through but they were showing their age when I got out several years ago. Espicially when doing joint ops/training with the warriors and m3s. Honestly believe the aslavs needed replacing / upgrading more then the cats and bushmasters did. You can be as fast or as capable offroad as you want but your only ever going to go as far as your tanker trucks can in australia, even the stripped aslavs have appalling range for what they actually are and dont get me started on the Abrams. Either way wish I had something as fancy as the boxer to sit my ass in back in the day always did prefer the dpvs, sand rats/cats and the sketchy chopped cruisers I prefer to see and hear what's around me then sitting in a 'protected' vehicle with 'refreshing' (inside joke fir anyone who's ever been up north in a aslav) aircon
@dorrianpainting3155
@dorrianpainting3155 6 жыл бұрын
Australian Army just got the Boxer today looks good and will save Australian lives!!
@coreywarde6030
@coreywarde6030 6 жыл бұрын
Great video mate. The Australian Government has recently announced that the Boxer was the successful tender for the Land 400 Phase B project- beating the BAE-sourced AMV35
@gtpumps
@gtpumps 6 жыл бұрын
This has just been announced the Boxer CRV has been chosen by the Australian Army and will be built in Queensland Australia by Rheinmetall Defence Australia.
@daveparsons1701
@daveparsons1701 5 жыл бұрын
Matsimus, I have been glad to learn that you have worked with/on armor. I am not a Brit, but also like Challenger 2.
@jaredkeen4272
@jaredkeen4272 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure they have a contract to build them in Queensland, was on the news couple of days ago
@xjboy550
@xjboy550 7 жыл бұрын
Nice bit of kit Thanks for covering this interesting vehicle
@andrewstrongman305
@andrewstrongman305 6 жыл бұрын
I really like your analysis, Matsimus. Perhaps you could also review the vehicles the Australian army uses for IFV's and APC's? I'm familiar with Australian army M113's. Back in the day, ours were even better than the US variant - we had turrets with .50 cal and co-ax .30 cal where US models only had gun-shields. Just a few of those vehicles made a huge difference to the outcome of battles like Long Tan. I left the service not long after we'd adopted the LAV-25 for reconnaissance duty. How does the old LAV compare to the new Boxer CRV?
@captaron
@captaron 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah why you were using the m113 America was using the Bradley lol.
@andrewstrongman305
@andrewstrongman305 3 жыл бұрын
@@captaron True, governments back then didn't want to spend money on our army. Things have changed, though, and we are now invested in using the best equipment we can buy (or manufacture ourselves).
@Andy81ish
@Andy81ish 7 жыл бұрын
nice to hear your comments about the pro/cons of tracks/wheels. One other comment on 'Wheels' for a recon vehicle is that if the enemy finds the 'foot prints' in the mud they may think it was a farm vehicle. If they see 'tracks' I don't think they would be saying to themselves 'probably just some guy out for an afternoon drive in his dosser'.
@gusgone4527
@gusgone4527 5 жыл бұрын
It is a "beaut"of a vehicle and perfect for the Aussies. UK and Canada too. Wheels are the future and better value for money. Particularly with huge distance down under. Do they come with "roo bars" and a fridge for the "coolies."
@Drrolfski
@Drrolfski 7 жыл бұрын
The Boxer in APC/cargo/ambulance role works well in combination with the CV90 as dedicated IFV within the Dutch military.
@kisscola
@kisscola 6 жыл бұрын
Love that it won Australia's Landphase 400
@ianrobinson8974
@ianrobinson8974 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic machine! As an ex 2/14 L/H QMI assault trooper, it would is beaut to see such a good upgrade for our recon units. Hopefully all the Australian Army Infantry units will follow on.
@bennewong
@bennewong 7 жыл бұрын
Boxer CRV ticks a lot of boxes for Aussie army. Only issue is whether they can afford it. 8x8 strategic mobility suits Aussie environment - units may well have to transit to combat zone via road. Amphibious capability less important for CRV role. Very very impressed with this vehicle's capabilities; modularity allows easy upgrading as well when new tech or newer components come out. Whole vehicle doesn't need to be sidelined. That's a big plus for a small army. Thx again for video.
@BallisticSollution
@BallisticSollution 7 жыл бұрын
Land 400 is a $10 billion program. Money is not a problem.
@LAG09
@LAG09 7 жыл бұрын
It's a 10 billion program alright, but how many vehicles you're getting for your money is an important. It doesn't matter how good something is if you simply don't have enough of them to do the job.
@stevemcdonald8110
@stevemcdonald8110 7 жыл бұрын
We always end up spending a fortune so might as well choose the best.
@MrFrankydave
@MrFrankydave 7 жыл бұрын
225 CRV 8x8 to replace 257 ASLAV's Tracked IFV's to replace over 400 M113's. I'd say up to 300 IFV's or more but haven't seen anything yet. It would depend on the design as the Boxer can be changed out mission wise and the CV-90 has mortor and 120mm configurations.
@willm687
@willm687 6 жыл бұрын
dude where spending $64 billion over the next few years Australia is fine.
@cvdheyden
@cvdheyden 5 жыл бұрын
Matsimus, as far as I know UK is getting the Boxer as well. Good to have the UK in that program!
@G1NZOU
@G1NZOU 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, contract signed for 500, with at least 60% of them built in the UK but the first orders coming from German factories I believe.
@cvdheyden
@cvdheyden 5 жыл бұрын
@@G1NZOU Cool.
@edwardgilmour9013
@edwardgilmour9013 5 жыл бұрын
this looks good for Aust. we might need a few hundred more
@truth2357
@truth2357 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the technically very clear video. Watching the video give a feel of watching movie. Sufficient technical details are given so that non technical or layman understands. Subscribed so more videos can be enjoyed.
@themadmercenary
@themadmercenary 7 жыл бұрын
the boxer had a competitor in the land 400 trials the AMV35, a vid on that would be very much appreciated. thx mate
@rodneymiddleton1044
@rodneymiddleton1044 5 жыл бұрын
Well this Aussie man loves these Boxers and nothing like German Engineering . This Boxer is a very popular choice with a lot of non com civvies it has great appeal and great modular sets mad speed 105 kmh and super protection against I.E.D's. Thanks Rheinmetall :-) Great video Matsimus maybe you could use your knowledge to convince our government in obtaining more great equipment for our boy's ?
@fatdad64able
@fatdad64able 5 жыл бұрын
Hello everybody. As a German I am jeallous about the lance turret. Congrats Australia.
@BradTway
@BradTway 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting concept. However I am more curious about the different packages that are available to for it. Is there a website about that? Thanks. Also I wonder how it stands up to some of the other wheeled recon vehicles in other nations besides Germany and Australia? In the US we of course have the striker, but I wonder if in the future if the US Army will design a new CRV that is lighter and butter protected perhaps with a bigger turret and gun? I wonder how the Boxer would compare to these other CRVs. Is there any videos on KZbin with "live fire" demonstrations?
@jonny2954
@jonny2954 6 жыл бұрын
Manufacturers website, but the list is incomplete, it lacks a few versions: artec-boxer.com/index.php?id=14
@schlirf
@schlirf 7 жыл бұрын
Trying to find some weaknesses in the system, and it difficult to find any. However, the Reconnaissance / Fire Support version looks to be vulnerable to dismounted infantry, yet the pure battle taxi model looks to be the best. Either way, I am impressed by the multi modular design. All in all, it is a system which has set new standards in APC design.
@zidfih1176
@zidfih1176 3 жыл бұрын
It can be equipped with the APS from rheinmetall
@tomitiustritus6672
@tomitiustritus6672 2 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest weaknesses of the Boxer, as will all full sized german armored vehicles, is the sheer size. Just like the Puma, this thing is taller than the Leo2. And Leo is already pretty tall a tank. Funnily enough, Germany is also operating the super tiny Wiesel and is developing the equally tiny LuWa to replace it. Fennek is also not very big. So somehow, Germany seems to be building some of the smallest and some of the biggest armored vehicles. Very little in between. If you compare it with soviet and post-soviet designs, they all seem very low profile in comparison. I guess thaf will be direly needed if they ever have to go up against Boxer or Puma (or Lynx). PS: I have always been in !ove with the Wiesel and LuWa looks almost as cute.
@zhufortheimpaler4041
@zhufortheimpaler4041 Жыл бұрын
@@tomitiustritus6672 the height is due to the heavy IED blast protection. A Boxer can survive IED blasts, most tracked armored vehicles like Abrams, Challenger 2 or basicly every IFV would be left in shreds afterwards.
@gerardvander421
@gerardvander421 4 жыл бұрын
Very good presentation and a universal reconnaissance / fighting vehicle.
@fatyowls
@fatyowls 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a firm believer that the next world war will need fought Street by Street town and cities, like in Syria tanks have come very low in survival statistics because of land mines and rocket launchers. Small fast hard hitting vehicles will be a dominant necessity..
@willm687
@willm687 6 жыл бұрын
well that why Australia designed the first and most practical MRAP the Bushmaster our soldiers were protected while everyone else was dying in land rovers and humvees. it took the US so long to get MRAP's and when the Dutch saw their troops getting killed in the middle east they bought our Bushmaters over any other MRAP
@reserva120
@reserva120 5 жыл бұрын
that Makes no sense, Land mine do not care size or speed of vehicles, nor do rocket launchers.. lazy child like video game thinking is not the answer.
@h.c5750
@h.c5750 5 жыл бұрын
Allan Desmond the bushmaster is obviously safer than an unarmoured Land rover or Humvee
@erikz2754
@erikz2754 7 жыл бұрын
Goodday well I am a old M113 and also aFSV driver its hard to give up on traks we maxt out at 60kmh it felt like 100kmh evary thing rattled .hard to go past the boxer keep up the good work
@jonesso11
@jonesso11 6 жыл бұрын
For the love of god tell me what your intro song is called!
@aaronkindle561
@aaronkindle561 3 жыл бұрын
Ich mag deine Videos sehr. Du wirkst auf mich immer objektiv und sachkundig. Ich schätze diese Informationen und Blickwinkel. Danach fürhle ich mich als Zivilist so, also ob ich auch eine Meinung zu dem Zeug haben kann. Denke du weisst vieles besser als die Meisten. Ich hoffe das du auch in Zukunft ab und zu ein Video zu aktuellen Themen machst. Wünsche dir Gesundheit, Erfolg, Freude und Glück neuen Jahr Martin (sry not sure xD).
@brianjordan2192
@brianjordan2192 7 жыл бұрын
Wow a German 8×8 armored vehicle being state of the art? Never heard of that before! lol. I don't know how much the module system would be used but one could train with a basic model and upgrade to afv/crv version during a crisis. Over all its a great vehicle system.
@thatdutchguy2882
@thatdutchguy2882 7 жыл бұрын
Brian Jordan Dutch/German.
@thisghy8126
@thisghy8126 7 жыл бұрын
Brian Jordan excellent point. thinking as a reservist here in a low budget military. if they just trained without 30mm turret as an apc or maybe just with a 7.62x51mm MG on the turret to save money during peacetime training. switch out for the 30mm for pre deployment and annual qualifications as well as wartime
@dasmaurerle4347
@dasmaurerle4347 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatdutchguy2882 ehhh...same same😜😂😂 🇳🇱🇩🇪
@smokeybirdman
@smokeybirdman 6 жыл бұрын
Close to perfect for modern warfare. It can injure a tank and put it out of action, destroy a company of soldiers, take most choppers out of the sky and get to and from very fast. It carries special infantry to the birds nest, can recon the area with that little drone and clear an IED or two with its little robot tucked down its pants. Fair dinkum love this beast
@CammieGee
@CammieGee 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great platform. I've always felt that in today's threat environment a reconnaissance or infantry fighting vehicle should have at least a 30 or 35 mm main armament. I think the upgrade programme for the Canadian Army LAV and Coyote is great but my one criticism is that the Bushmaster 25 mm gun should be replaced with at least a 30 mm
@rowanbirch8624
@rowanbirch8624 5 жыл бұрын
In today's threat environment, it's definitely a good idea to make your recon vehicle more intrusive and obvious than a main battle tank apparently.
@CammieGee
@CammieGee 2 жыл бұрын
@Malcolm Caden Thanks for the information but will the Canadian Army be getting the 30 or 40 mm versions
@michelnguyen4819
@michelnguyen4819 5 жыл бұрын
I only have one obvious question, how strong the tires are resistant to the bullets of regular infantry that it might face on the way ? Thanks.
@94Gidge
@94Gidge 7 жыл бұрын
be good for chasing pigs scross the padock. lol
@h.c5750
@h.c5750 5 жыл бұрын
That 30 mike mike would fuckin wreck water buffalo and theres plenty of them out there for the Aus army to practice shots on haha
@mikeching6374
@mikeching6374 4 жыл бұрын
@@h.c5750 Water buffalo? have you notheard of saltwater crocodiles? this isn't like the US where you can just drive up and practice shooting at schools.
@braydoxastora5584
@braydoxastora5584 4 жыл бұрын
think bigger and more deadly. the Emu's won't know what hit em
@davidhandyman7571
@davidhandyman7571 3 жыл бұрын
I'll just settle for a scaled down civilian version. Ferals won't know what hit them.
@bobthecanon3457
@bobthecanon3457 2 жыл бұрын
The german BOXER-System is one of the best construction that you can buy in the moment.... extrem variable and with possibilities, that no other System can delievery! Great Job Australia to chose this! You will love this. All modules for the BOXER (and this are a lot) you can all use and upgrade or change the role of your BOXER easy.
@mynameismin3
@mynameismin3 6 жыл бұрын
im aussie and i like!
@johnlewin9659
@johnlewin9659 3 жыл бұрын
Great vehicle and a wise choice, more protection is key and nice to see a little more comfort included. The modular configurations are incedible. Shame we could not have designed and built it ourselves, but hey ho!
@TheTjones43
@TheTjones43 7 жыл бұрын
The US Marines and US Army should adopt this vehicle for recon needs because sharing production and usage with the Germans, the Dutch and the Australians would gain maximum performance and protection for our troops along with the advantages of commonality with NATO and SEATO allies at a low cost. The US always seems intent on re inventing the wheel when excellent alternatives are available
@willm687
@willm687 6 жыл бұрын
well we did give our bushmasters to the dutch so Aus and dutch should do more work together. and we gave a bunch to the UN
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 6 жыл бұрын
yes but it would also mean if someone learns of specific weaknesses or in the worst case allies become enemys... Really sucks that australia didn't bother to look at our domestic offerings.
@yakidin63
@yakidin63 6 жыл бұрын
Yes its a shame that the US didn't do as the Dutch did in Afghanistan and buy our Bushmaster vehicles. Would have saved a lot of US lives from IED blasts after 2005 to 2007 before the Humvee was replaced.
@omegasub90803
@omegasub90803 6 жыл бұрын
@@yakidin63 Unfortunately it was a Political Decision by the Obama, not to deploy mine protected vehicles, as to to Bushmaster, it was not needed, as there was MaxxPro, Cougar, RG-31, RG-33 and M1117.
@eddgrs9193
@eddgrs9193 5 жыл бұрын
@@omegasub90803 you realize that Obama was elected president in 2009, right ? By that time, the US already had MRAPs on the ground.
@terminusest5902
@terminusest5902 4 жыл бұрын
The speed and efficiency of the Boxer will be very effective for operations in Australia where large areas need to be covered. And Boxer units will have a degree of self deployment to distant areas of operation. Australia also has a very good road system and most of the vital regions are relatively accessible. The Boxers will be very useful in the reconnaissance role and many others. Such as peacekeeping operations or guerrilla warfare. And with modern conflicts urban warfare is becoming much more common which can suit the Boxer in many situations. And the Boxer will be easily modified with modular cabs on the rear. Boxers will be able to use more strategic mobility due to its self deployment capabilities. And in tactical roles like patrolling, Able to move troops quickly to different regions will be a force multiplier when opposing forces lack that mobility. Australia will now be manufacturing Spike missiles as well that will arm the Boxer. Potentially with a variety of warheads for different targets including NLOS, indirect fire. And possibly against helicopters and drones. Some Boxer options include 155mm howitzers. Also with a potential for NLOS guided weapons. And automatic 120mm mortars would be very effective. Able to keep up with infantry and recon Boxers with effective firepower. Potentially with turret systems and a direct fire options like the AMOS. With the 155mm guns in the counterfire role. And a number of modular missile systems possible. The AUSLAVs that are being replaced could still be used in other roles. Including mortars, logistics, and having an amphibious capability when needed. Hopefully with the maturity of the Boxers systems the ADF will be able to maintain this project effectively. And avoid excessive costs.and delays. I would still like to see the army getting some 8x8 Iveco Centauro 105mm or 120mm armed vehicles. Mainly in the reconnaissance role but also supporting Boxers, direct fire support, indirect, and tank destroyer roles. Not to replace the M1A Abrams tanks.
@thomasb5600
@thomasb5600 Жыл бұрын
What happens to AUSLAV is going to interesting.
@zplanetx8050
@zplanetx8050 6 жыл бұрын
Already has a flaw .... exhaust blows up all the dust, giving it away during slow maneuvers?
@THECHIMA1RA
@THECHIMA1RA 6 жыл бұрын
Watched this video as part of my job role study for the ADF ty
@brianfoley4328
@brianfoley4328 5 жыл бұрын
The next two vehicles planned are : AMX-Briefs and the AMC-Thong.
@fatdad64able
@fatdad64able 5 жыл бұрын
Since the ALR Tanga is so outdated......
@leemccurtayne9489
@leemccurtayne9489 4 жыл бұрын
Here in OZ we hate it so much, we are looking at the tracked Lynx at the same time. The commonality is what is imperative. The smarts are in building them here, so the supply chain will be local. An infantry fighting vehicle is just the start, the beauty of these systems are their modules, to change out their mission roles which can be changed out in 35 mins. This gives you the luxury of having x amount of base units and mission expansion role on short notice. The best part of all is there a fully automated 155mm howitzer that can be bolted on as well with the overall weight of 46 tons.
@AKVlo
@AKVlo 7 жыл бұрын
do the kto rosomak next please
@PvtRyan-ke4of
@PvtRyan-ke4of 7 жыл бұрын
10:12 the 'MK' doesn´t stand for Mark, but for 'Maschienenkanone' or in english: machine canon
@axelscharf2415
@axelscharf2415 7 жыл бұрын
It's a German military vehicle. Glad our Australian friends using it . Better than any hyped American crap .
@willm687
@willm687 6 жыл бұрын
the ASLAVs were Canadian and we produced them ourselves we usually get decent shit from US and Europe then make it better look at the EF88 a complete modernisation and upgrade compared to Styer's most recent AUG/STG77 A3. so we get stuff ask to build it ourselves generally then upgrade it what we need. for a military as small as ours its probably why where such a good fighting force.
@Orangesjesus
@Orangesjesus 6 жыл бұрын
Axel Scharf deals on, built in queensland, with other states contributing.
@nitemaster05
@nitemaster05 6 жыл бұрын
The Bradley is on which upgrade now? 3? and there is talk of making it longer?? The Striker is junk no matter what you do to it. LAV's came out over 30 years ago. could they make an amphibious version? The USMC would be ALL over that. With the Lance Turret.
@imperialguardsman521
@imperialguardsman521 6 жыл бұрын
Is it battle proven?
@derpanzerkommandant4641
@derpanzerkommandant4641 6 жыл бұрын
I think Axel is a kid, so don't take him serious. I served 12 years in the German Army and the American stuff we had was outstanding.
@darthsarcastus1064
@darthsarcastus1064 3 жыл бұрын
Warrior CSP is gone! No 40mm stabilised gun for the Warrior. What's your take on that Maximus???
@efraimgoldfein-shekelblats260
@efraimgoldfein-shekelblats260 6 жыл бұрын
Australia gets 225 Boxers or more!
@m1rc23
@m1rc23 7 жыл бұрын
Centauro II looks better with its 120mm , i had seen also two prototipes : Centauro 76/62 mm con torretta DRACO, and Centauro 155/39. What do you think about?
@buryitdeep
@buryitdeep 5 жыл бұрын
0:53 Chinese spy spotted.
@df2196
@df2196 3 жыл бұрын
How does this vehicle stack up to the Stryker's of the US Army? FYI: I love my M551 Sheridan while I server with the 14th and the 11th ACR in Germany.
@PpAirO5
@PpAirO5 6 жыл бұрын
I want one of these 😁
@wd8786
@wd8786 6 жыл бұрын
This CRV is the awesome!! Great video also, keep it up.
@rbn_hmrs541
@rbn_hmrs541 7 жыл бұрын
its a german vehicle and we are only have medic versions the heaviest weapon on it is a mg4 i think .... but we have the puma with the same turrent as this
@Ruvi5000
@Ruvi5000 7 жыл бұрын
Deutschland bestes Land 4eva
@rbn_hmrs541
@rbn_hmrs541 7 жыл бұрын
Right i forgot/werent shure about the gramawa
@bruh5361
@bruh5361 7 жыл бұрын
EnduroRookie the gtk Boxer is Suppost to replace the Fuchs which is a transport vehicle not an IFV
@halorecon95
@halorecon95 7 жыл бұрын
German/Dutch vehicle* Dont forget your swamp brethren!
@torstenhammer6912
@torstenhammer6912 7 жыл бұрын
halorecon95 Nein ,nur Deutsch ein jointventure von Rheinmetall und Kmw
@vanvan5709
@vanvan5709 5 жыл бұрын
I love the background music Matsimus. "Are you not entertained?"
@gershonbass6004
@gershonbass6004 5 жыл бұрын
as a combat or reconnaissance vehicle it is excellent, but as transport to the battlefield and support for infantry it's redundant, another story is service and general maintainability, especially in combat conditions, as there are so many progressive solutions and advanced stuffing , it's still an armored personnel carrier - not fighter jet ... , and of course not unimportant question - price .
@deathless3518
@deathless3518 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking. Too many moving parts that could fail during combat. I don’t know, I’m not sold
@Karelwolfpup
@Karelwolfpup 7 жыл бұрын
fascinating to see how modularity has really been taken to heart, and that only makes sense. If you can crank out one basic platform over and over again and then just plug-and play what you need when you need it for whatever role you wanted covered then you're on to a winner.
@xuda7100
@xuda7100 7 жыл бұрын
can you do a video on the United States Marine Corps LAV-25 series of vehicles?
@dmenace9827
@dmenace9827 6 жыл бұрын
I can confirm that the Australian government has, this week, signed off the contract. The Boxer is to be jointly manufactured in company with Rheinmetall at a couple of different sites across Australia. I think that with it's adaptability, survivability, and most importantly in this big, wide, brown land it's long range, it was a good decision. But I do have one question. I've heard talk of a 105mm gun, which doesn't seem right. What gun options are available for the Boxer?
@dmenace9827
@dmenace9827 6 жыл бұрын
155mm? Really! Are you sure? That would make it a very slow self-propelled gun and would require ammunition supply support vehicles - that's not a CRV. 105mm I can just believe - maybe - but 155mm, are you serious? That's over 6 inches, bigger than the 5 inch/54 calibre guns on the warships I served on back in the 70s/80s - Perth Class destroyers, the Australian variant of the American Charles F Adams class destroyer. Even the latest US and Russian MBTs only have 120mm guns.
@richardthomson4693
@richardthomson4693 6 жыл бұрын
Its using the same turret configuration as the stryker so uses any turrets available for them. So can use a 105mm MGS system, while the americans are looking at SPAA for the strykers. While I doubt a 155 could be hacked to fit, the nearest to it would be the south africans G-6 rhino. Its still substantially larger than the boxer. If I was looking at arty I would automatic mortor
@richardthomson4693
@richardthomson4693 6 жыл бұрын
hasn't that program been axed they were supposed to test fire it 3-4 years ago and nothing. Think it comes down to possibility vs practicality. I think possible but not practical. With australia purchasing MLRS and currently and the next gen m777er being developed. Think a faster more responsive would be usefull like the amos mortar system
@cyberdogk9au
@cyberdogk9au 7 жыл бұрын
I'm stoked as its more suited to our outback and it's got to be a better investment than those dogged F-35's.
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 6 жыл бұрын
yeah its sad that we got sucked into the shitty f35 feed america money for nothing joke
@scottcraig1047
@scottcraig1047 6 жыл бұрын
All those nice land vehicles wont last long against air attack. F35's to the rescue.
@yakidin63
@yakidin63 6 жыл бұрын
Pilots love the F35. Don't believe the negative comments. The F35 controls the battlespace. Its not just a plane.
@robman2095
@robman2095 3 жыл бұрын
We are not planning on doing too much fighting in Aus. Continental defence will rely on air and sea dominance to stop enemy getting here.
@cyberdogk9au
@cyberdogk9au 3 жыл бұрын
@@yakidin63 I hope you're right for our sakes.
@pdubois4318
@pdubois4318 10 ай бұрын
Would'nt directing the exhaust toward the ground increased your dust signature significantly?
@stoneyascension7250
@stoneyascension7250 7 жыл бұрын
Can it take out a Chinese main battle tank?
@333Simpsons
@333Simpsons 6 жыл бұрын
Why would it need to be able to do that? Anyway i'm pretty sure it can mount AT-Rockets
@biggun6658
@biggun6658 6 жыл бұрын
Chinese tanks would run out of fuel over here .
@dasher4fun348
@dasher4fun348 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, Australia retired the Leopard along time ago. Australia currently uses the M1 Abrams as her MBT. The army currently has 59 tanks with 13 Hercules for battlefield support and maintenance. Australia may increase her fleet of Abrams to 90 to allow 3 squadrons to be deployed in the field. Further upgrades are planned such as analog to digital, armour, and fire control. Also Australia is looking for a replacement of the M113 for a modern IFV to support the Abrams and transport infantry.
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 6 жыл бұрын
Definetly dont need to do that, im.hoping if it comes to it we as australians stay allies with china over some tyrannical hypocritical, greed obsessed nation like the states.
@wattlebough
@wattlebough 6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@johninnh4880
@johninnh4880 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool!! Only thing I don't like is the exhaust system. Makes a big dust signature. But, may be by design, to obscure the IR signature. Dust ingestion also seems to be problematic in desert conditions. But overall looks excellent!! Love the high tech. Drones, robots, drive by wire. Very cool!! Thanks for this video!
@nickolasgoldinak3132
@nickolasgoldinak3132 7 жыл бұрын
the opening scene is my porn
@matthewconnor5483
@matthewconnor5483 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see how active defense systems will reduce the need for heavy armor and make IFV even more capable. The speed, range and lighter weight of wheeled vehicles are really important when it comes to the logistics of getting it in theater and then supporting once there.
@MatoVuc
@MatoVuc 7 жыл бұрын
the modular nature of the boxer seems like a fancy gimick that will almost never be used. it's almost like a guy with an AR-15 bragging how he can carry 2 uppers and switch between cqb and long range when he wants to, yet when you ask him how often that happens, he falls curiously silent.
@user-py9cy1sy9u
@user-py9cy1sy9u 7 жыл бұрын
Remember this machine is built for war. If it drives over IED and drive module is damaged you can put mission module on working drive module from any nation or vice versa. Second thing it allow for fast prototyping and already there are many variants of mission modules
@MrBandholm
@MrBandholm 7 жыл бұрын
Modular setups are the future... It may look like a gimick, however the result of the setup turns out to be of real benefit. It is most effective on ships, due to the larger size, and longer life, but the principles are the same... The real effect, if done right, means that a weapon system, sensor pack and so on, can be upgraded or maintained/repaired much more cost-effective and faster, than a conventional setup... How effective is it on a vehicle this size, I don't know... But I do know that the Danish navy has build its ships up around the concept, making the ships much more flexible, and cheaper in their expected life cost, because the instead of going to dock and cut a hole in the hull to access the hardware inside (meaning an upgrade will only happen once), container moduls can be pulled out and replaced in as short a time as 15 minuts... So if a sensor package is damaged or something, the container modul can simply just be unplugged, pulled out, and replaced with one that works, and the damaged sensors can be worked on while the unit is out in the field/sea.
@rantanplan178
@rantanplan178 7 жыл бұрын
Yes +MatoVuc, as previous speakers said, you are not thinking this through. Ofc no soldier in the field is going to swap his nice m4 in a cqb 'build' into a dmr variant while sitting in his one man hole in the night. That's not what his all is about however. It is about logistics, cost effectiveness and versatility. A more practical example might be able to make it more clear. Just think on it on divisonal level for a second. Let's say you have a mechanized division equipped with boxer based vehicles. You have a mortar battalion using the 120mm mortar turret and a reconaissance battalion using this crv turrent. Then you have your infantry using boxers for transport and a medical battalion using boxers in the field ambulance configuration. Isn't the advantage of having just one vehicle for all this tasks already obvious? Not only that you don't need to worry about all sorts of different spares parts for all the different vehicles anymore as you just have one vehicle. You also can easily exchange vehicles between your units in relative short time simply by exchanging equipment modules. Especially after a division has been in battle for some time and after suffering quite some casualties you now have the opportunity to concentrate on these kind of boxers you need the most in a certain situation. That's a huge advantage. Modularity is not a new invention however. Just look at all the different sdkfz/251 variants in WW2. Actually interchangeability always had a major influence in German military development not only when it comes to vehicle development. One can almost consider this a doctrine. It's one reason why the German Army didn't use a heavy machine-gun caliber like the .50. They simply didn't want to think about a lot of different calibers but instead only have one rifle caliber and a pistol caliber. The German 8mm Mauser has been used in sniper rifles, standard infantry rifles, light to heavy machine guns and even in the air-defence on bombers and on the ground in twin mounted mg42's. Up to the stg.44 there simply was no other rifle caliber in the German Military. You can also look at the large family of vehicles based on the chassis of a Leopard 1 and 2 nowadays. Modularity isn't something the Germans invented however. I just thought it's a good example.
@MatoVuc
@MatoVuc 7 жыл бұрын
rantanplan178 having operated in a unit based on variants of the Patria AMV, i am aware of the benefits and drawbacks of running with a family of vehicles. my point is that i don't exactly see much use for the swappable module system as it will require at the least a crane to swap out and it doesn't seem like something you'd do very often while deployed. at most, i see it as a production and cost saving measure, but as a practical ability in the field, not so much.
@MatoVuc
@MatoVuc 7 жыл бұрын
rantanplan178 having operated in a unit based on variants of the Patria AMV, i am aware of the benefits and drawbacks of running with a family of vehicles. my point is that i don't exactly see much use for the swappable module system as it will require at the least a crane to swap out and it doesn't seem like something you'd do very often while deployed. at most, i see it as a production and cost saving measure, but as a practical ability in the field, not so much.
@Mrkleanupguys2
@Mrkleanupguys2 6 жыл бұрын
As a Australian this a good we're updating our fleet of CRVs
@CidFafner
@CidFafner 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that (kindalate) first look @ the boxer seems perfect for the australian terrain. Aussies: Dont' listen to the French. They just want to sell their crap.
@bulletproofkam7931
@bulletproofkam7931 6 жыл бұрын
Who's gona invade Australia! 95% is just desert and nothing!
@garyfoale3707
@garyfoale3707 5 жыл бұрын
@@bulletproofkam7931 it's what's under the surface. On that note, if anyone is reading this, we have absolutely no minerals down here, none at all.
@wanderer651952
@wanderer651952 4 жыл бұрын
@@garyfoale3707 They don't need to invade us, Gary. Our politicians are really cheap bribees.
@robman2095
@robman2095 4 жыл бұрын
@@bulletproofkam7931 that’s where all the iron or and other minerals are though
@hellcat9165
@hellcat9165 7 жыл бұрын
hey there Matsimus! i have watched so many of your videos but never comments ... your videos are very informative! but the reason i comment is becomes i am from Australia and thinking of joining the army and do Cavalry and could not find much information on the new CRV! many of my friends or in Cavalry and MP... thankyou for the very good content keep it up =)
@ducadme
@ducadme 7 жыл бұрын
Made in Germany 😘
@lenardmalcolm8800
@lenardmalcolm8800 6 жыл бұрын
Geht DInixo yer it is but soon to be made here it’s a great vehicle I’m ex Australian army and wish we had them when I was in
@lexchambers8329
@lexchambers8329 6 жыл бұрын
actually going to be made in Australia
@goldenkai2991
@goldenkai2991 6 жыл бұрын
Just like the Commodore from VB to VZ, German designed , Aus build
@adamleddy9894
@adamleddy9894 6 жыл бұрын
@@lexchambers8329 actually first 25 in Germany whilst the facility is built in Ipswich... come on mate... be fair and not so picky... additionally without the technology transfer Australia wouldn't have the sovereign capability... now we will have a technically mature vehicle that is a great tool for the Australian Army
@lexchambers8329
@lexchambers8329 6 жыл бұрын
@@adamleddy9894 no problem with 25 been made in Germany first happy for the technology transfer think its a great vechile
@smirgyjoker2484
@smirgyjoker2484 7 жыл бұрын
the boxer looks nice, it goes for high crew protection which I really like thumbs up Mr.Boxer
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