BR Sim ERCOUPE 415 - First Look Review! - MSFS 2020

From a time when we thought aviation would become like driving, the ERCO ERCOUPE was born, a 50s 'easy to fly' GA machines from the developer that brought us the early Bonanzas.
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[@williamleadbetter9686]

Fred also helped worked on the Piper Cherokee. I've owned a real ercoupe and they are an absolute blast. Just about like a Bi-Plane in that it's almost an open cockpit airplane when you want. Just slide the side windows down and hang your elbows out on a nice warm day. The view is great. It's light on the controls without being touchy and is very easy to fly. It cruises faster than most of its two seat contemporaries of its day on the same HP. It's also very easy to Handel in gusty crosswinds and will easily land when other 4 & 6 seat airplanes are fighting to get down safe & sound. Just about the most Romantic two seat airplane ever made. I have so many fond memories of mine it makes me want another. As I've said before come on over for a visit and we'll take the Tri-pacer up for a ride too

[@DEFkon001]

Interesting historical aircraft, but I feel that at this price point it won't get many sales. At this point for a developer to ask for $20.00 they need to provide an aircraft that has all the immersion bells and whistles nailed, and have good ( but not study level ) accuracy. That means fully animated doors, and windows - complete with proper audio changes for opening the windows.. cockpit audio for switches, and stress creaking, multiple Nav/com options and the option for persistent aircraft states. I hate to say it but this is basically a $9.99 product as it stands.. and that's not even including any evaluation of the flight model.

[@Stwutter1973]

I'm getting a little tired of devs releasing half-baked planes. I'm fine with post-release tweaks, as you can never really test an aircraft 100% until it's in the wild, but just chucking things out before they're ready seems to have become more of a thing recently. I agree it seems nice from inside, but 1 livery works, there's no wind noise and it's not scaled correctly. It feels to me that it's escalated and become more acceptable since the Twin Otter v.1 released with it's awful sounds. But then if Cpt. SIM can release a plane that you literally cannot fly other than externally, I guess anything goes now.

[@lynnkramer1211]

Get a grip on yourself.

[@Stwutter1973]

@@lynnkramer1211 Deep, and well thought out. Thanks for your input x

[@lynnkramer1211]

This is an improvement but there is still a ways to go. First is the way the plane is not level on the ground. The plane is designed to have the window sill level with the ground and not with the nose wheel in the air like that. The nose strut does hang down lower when airborne, but not on the runway as shown. The panel is completely out of left field. The original had a glove compartment on the passenger side and there are no arm rests on either side of the cockpit. There are other minor problems such as that iPad holder is mounted low enough to castrate a guy in flight and cause a crash. The plane was brought out in 1937 and most were built in 1946 a few were built clear into the 1970s by a variety of manufacturers in clouding Forney, Alon, and even Piper and Mooney each had a go at trying to improve it. Originally they had fabric wings but later an all metal wing was retrofitted if desired. Many were built without any rudder pedals which it was designed to dispense with, but were an option for those chaps who were pig headed about that. The horse power was increased from 75 to 85 and even 90p and 100 later on. All in all a very satisfying and simple design that has endured for some 70 years and there are still hundreds of them flying around happily and parts are still made by the Univaire Corp in Colorado Springs. No one expects these computer sims to be absolutely spot on, and I certainly don't care one way or another. I love mine.

[@klacklery]

This is one I've been hoping for for a long while!

[@rolanddutton4723]

I've got the Debonair and, out of all my GA planes, it has my favorite flight model. I hope this aircraft improves a lot, just like the Debonair did after release.

[@anthonymontague962]

Just watched this. A few points, in the real aircraft, you steer on the ground with the yoke. For those wanting the realism in the simulator you must check auto rudder. Having restored several of these fun little airplanes, there are a few discrepancies. Most are simple and not that important. Many, many different variants were made over the years. Find 5 Ercoupe's and not one will have a panel that looks like another. The geometry aft of the trailing edge concerning the fuselage is incorrect. It is more round all the way back to the tail cone which looks great on this model. The windshield and the aft canopy are at the same height. Not slopped from windshield back to the aft canopy. For flying characteristics. The 65-75 horse power aircraft burn 4-6 gallons per hour. The 85-95 horse power used a bit more. It utilizes two, 9 gallon wing tanks and a 6 gallon header tank just behind the instrument panel below the windshield. The engine driven fuel pump, pumps fuel from the wing tanks to the header tank. Ingenious design actually. Should the engine driven fuel pump fail, you have a gravity fed, 6 gallon fuel reserve. Flight characteristics are, well, boring. I equate flying the Ercoupe to that of driving the classic VW Beetle. Fun, but not dramatic. When flying one in Fairbanks Alaska, I used to take other pilots for a "ride". 1000ft in the air, 1/4 mile from the end of the runway, I would pull the throttle out, add carburetor heat and apply full back elevator. No, the aircraft would not stall, therefore not spin. But boy, did she drop like a rock. As the runway quickly rose to meet the aircraft, a blip of the throttle would arrest the descent and a beautiful 40mph touchdown was achieved. Just like Mr. William Leadbetter said, slide the windows down, and you have an open air cockpit. Soooooo, much fun. Just don't have anything loose in the cockpit. A cell phone is quite susceptible to exiting quickly upon encountering turbulence, as a friend and I found out as we watched his exit and descend until out of sight.

[@droge192]

Oh WOW! I just noticed that the "VFR only" placard in the cockpit, says "VRF only". Clearly widely beta tested!

[@AvAngel]

ROFL even i didn't see that! XD

[@coriscotupi]

Those things are designed by game artists who have never, ever come close to an actual airplane and don't have the first clue of what they're producing.

[@ThomasGrillo]

Just tried this plane, and was sorely disappointed when I discovered you can't ground steer with just the yoke, and the rudders are connected to the rudder pedals, and not the yoke. Maybe they'll fix that next year. Even my latest copy of this is badly flawed. Now, you can't even open the canopy, and it still wants to float all the way down the runway, even at 30, or 40 knots. LOL. Still, it's a nice looking model. Hard to believe this plane was first designed in the late 1930s, and you could purchase it right from the Sears catalogue. Thanks for the review.

[@williambarnes8951]

I would not pay 5 dollars for this until they did Many major upgrades. Coclpit canopy size, wind, pedals, tablet removal....

[@zentropyaviation5182]

Nope. ;) At this point there is great GA aircraft that for this price it just doesn't fly. Ultimately... and at least for ME (I have 175 aircraft in the hangar), there is no shortage of stuff to fly. So no... when JustFlight releases something or Milviz or SimWorks or Big Radials? Worth it, cause they have CHARACTER. THIS here is very sterile, it's like it's devoid of any kind of heart. Same with the Debonair and V-Tail Bonanza (those I own)... Nothing BRSim has put out made me want to fly it beyond just a test flight. And maybe a re-visitation when there are updates. Cheers and thanks for your great work. You are an inspiration for my own channel.

[@CCitis]

Alot of potential... but they need to fix some things before they get my money. Thanks.

[@lochlin_drives_slow]

when landing you should be able to land at up to 100mph because that's what it was built for, you're also supposed to land on all 3 wheels at once and not flare it. -ercoupe owner

[@AvAngel]

Cheers for the info!

[@hatman4818]

Is there a specific AOA to aim for that ensures a 3 wheel touchdown?

[@domcamillo1633]

Você é a melhor ❤

[@piefly]

Really a fun little bird to fly, might need some touch ups here and there, but none the less very well done, the vibrations on the cowling and tail is really some nice eye candy an done very well, would have been nice if they added a very basic AP for some longer distance VFR flying.

[@northeastflight3016]

I flew it for the first time last night, absolutely love the interior textures and rattling. I have noticed its very slippery on approach tho, anything steeper than 500 ft pr minute and its gaining air speed.

[@murdoch9106]

There is a great little documentary on this aircraft on KZbin thats great! Been waiting for one! There was option at some point to have this outfitted with pedals, I'd love to see that as well, 24 bucks put this in some very stiff competition so would recommend to the dev to bring it! ;)

[@AvAngel]

It works as though it has rudder pedals so.... :D might as well lol

[@dongallagher7756]

@@AvAngel You should be able to set the controls in sim, so that the yoke does both aileron and rudder. Juat save it to the aircraft.

[@kennethnaunton3323]

@@dongallagher7756 In the old Fs2004 and FSX there was an option for Auto rudder. Maybe there is an option in Msfs2020?

[@CRAZYHORSE19682003]

It is older than that. I have a friend who has one that was built in 1946.

[@lancepeltier1081]

First, great video, as always, Angel. Second, sorry I'm leaving a long and apropos of nothing comment. I just really wanted to share. So I fly on the Xbox Series X and the peripheral options are very limited. Me and my step-son are flying around the world in Diamond DA62's. I wanted a left hand stick, right hand throttle arrangement which, of course, doesn't exist yet. I ended up getting the Thrustmaster T-Flight full set with peddles. Happily, I discovered that the stick is quite comfortable in the left hand and I can reach the hat and all but one of the buttons. I put the throttle on my right, reversed the axis and turned it around backwards. Also, I disabled the rocker thingy and all of the buttons I might bump into on the throttle. Plus I'm 3D printing a new internal part to add resistance to the throttle and do away with the 50% detent. Mouse and keyboard to my right and happiness is mine.

[@AvAngel]

sounds like you built a decent setup!

[@blacknass1943]

nice looking small airplain :)

[@monostripezebras]

it actually looks pretty ok for what it is, like it.

[@nume1981]

Exterior textures look really good, inside I think it looks a bit too clean for a plane that’s 70years old. Nevertheless, lots of potential in this one, looks like a fun little flyer.

[@onlyforbrian2]

The 415C had no rudder pedals, the rudder was linked to the yoke with steerable nose wheel, the Aircoupe A2 had rudder pedals

[@AvAngel]

yup

[@philgreen815]

I really like this version of the ercoupe, it is quirky, but I like the rattles and vibration. You kinda feel like it isn't going to make it? but its fun to fly by the seat of your pants. Sadly I bought this through SimMarket and I just don't get how they download their stuff? so I now play it safe through the Market Place.

[@jackflak]

Nice..

[@GurtTarctor]

Would definitely be interested in getting this if it was a little bit cheaper.

[@cavalierqoon]

When you jammed the rudder pedals towards the end, were you also actuating the yoke? Or was that the model? It seems likely that since they can't get rid of the rudder controls they might've simply bound them to the yoke bidirectionally?

[@AvAngel]

I was initiating a slip so yeah

[@Beery1962]

The glide and landing roll-out on this aircraft are seriously messed up - it glides almost horizontally and on touchdown it rolls almost forever without losing any speed. I've found that I get much more believable results with the following changes to the flight_model.cfg file: cruise_lift_scalar =1 parasite_drag_scalar =0.8

[@northeastflight3016]

One thing ive noticed between xbox and pc is on pc you get the reflections of the cockpit in the windows, on xbox those arnt rendered in any plane

[@AvAngel]

might be a performance thing there with console limitations.

[@northeastflight3016]

@@AvAngel must be! I have the S, im now curious about if reflections are rendered on the series X

[@lancepeltier1081]

First thing I noticed when I upgraded from the S to the X was reflections on the insides of the windows. Full disclosure, I've only flown the Diamond DA62 so far.

[@donaldholman9070]

the ercoup had a front wheel that turned. it required a special license.

[@PoochAndBoo]

As a former ERCOUPE owner, let me tell you that you're wrong. Have no idea where you heard that.

[@donaldholman9070]

60 to 70 mph was its top speed

[@CBCJr6]

I think the venturi is the predecessor to the vacuum system, not the pitot tube.....

[@AvAngel]

They did the same job iirc

[@MojaveHigh]

I think you are increasing the delay before the "Buy-ee" at the end to build suspense. Am I right?

[@AvAngel]

LOL sometimes I'm tired, sometimes Its for effect, I don't know! XD

[@planelander]

Ercoupe does not have rudder peddles; yoke is connected to rudder and ailerons.

[@AvAngel]

Some had them added, it wasn't in the original model.

[@ronmorgan4799]

How many earcoups were built an how many have crashed an why?????????

[@mikemorgan8895]

How does msfs2020 replicate gusts and turbulence?

[@AvAngel]

Depends, it can be rather decent at times, I've had some VIOLENT turbulence and gusty conditions.

[@antonioiozzi291]

Just like Bonanzas the developer have some problems with too fat fuselages. It's a shame because such historical aurcrafts would be a good addition to my fleet. There is lot of aircraft documentation, it's hard to understand why he always miss proportions in 3D modeling

[@AvAngel]

Mm perhaps yes. I’m not sure either

[@droge192]

Great review. Not bad but waaaaaay too expensive at 24 Euros. When you think that the new SWS RV14 is only 20 Euros, this should be a 13-15 Euro plane.

[@AvAngel]

mhm

[@CRAZYHORSE19682003]

In the real aircraft the yoke controls the nose wheel so you steer it like a car.

[@PoochAndBoo]

I used to own one of these and the first thing I noticed was that the canopy looks wrong. It's too damn big. The metal finish looks bad. Not up to the standards of what is being done on other planes in MSF 2020. The windows don't even slide up and down. Not scaled correctly...etc. I was so hoping that someone would come out with an ERCOUPE that I could have some fun with. This doesn't appear to be it. It would have to be on sale for about 4.99 USD. Disappointing.

[@danceswithsheep3058]

Nope at this price my money just went to the Big Radials Goose.

[@joemarkowski4465]

This was a good choice.

[@ellonysman]

Years back a 16 year old thief stole one and managed tk land it without killing himself. Easy to fly I presume

[@donaldholman9070]

no autopilot…that means they did not have to deal with msfs’s crappy autopilot.

[@AvAngel]

They didn’t have them in these so yes lol

[@delalima]

odd looking plane

[@colourwheel20]

I don't think it's the canopy that's too big, its the whole aircraft. The pilot is too small in relation to the aircraft. This was the same with their Bonanza... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ERCO_Ercoupe#/media/File:Erco_F-1_Ercoupe_CF-NLX_02.JPG

[@kokoeteantigha389]

Which they later fixed with the Bonanza. Couldn't really fly it until they did.