Why Asta Vs Gojo Isn't Close...

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Broku

Broku

Күн бұрын

Satoru Gojo, the untouchable Sorcerer Vs. Asta, the Anti-Magic Brat that destroys magic itself.
Who Wins? Well, the answer should be fairly obvious. Unfortunately, this battle isn't even close.
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Calculations:
Mereo speed scaling: vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Use...
Maki Speed scaling: vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Use...
Art used:
Spade Asta art by Mashuri0004: www.deviantart.com/mashurio00...
Paladin Lucius coloring by FrancoReviews: / francoreviews
Dorothy and Reve Coloring by ShawnFrost: www.deviantart.com/shawnfrost...
Gojo Coloring by GlacialAegir: / glacialaegir
Lucifero by Iluvluvnutella: / iluvluvnutella
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
2:54 Can Anti-Magic work on Cursed Energy?
5:45 Satoru Gojo Breakdown
10:14 Asta Breakdown
16:50 Satoru Gojo Vs Asta Conclusions
Featured Black Clover Manga Colorists:
notrot3: / notrot3
Jutoon2: / jutoon2
Dizzyrobchris: / dizzyrobchris
TwoLemons_: / _twolemons
Charmythedwarf: / charmythedwarf
Minaxa: / minaxaart
XValClover:
BizzTheGoat
Riotxriot: / riotxriot
Rooxer9: / rooxer9
OfficialEaero: / officialeaero
ShawnFrostMax11: / shawnfrostmax11
Xzism_: / minaxaart
Spade Princess
Dabi’s wife: / starlightguh
Lyumaho: / lyumaho
Kefutoff: / kefutoff
NotFunny01: / notfunny01
Hawks_red_wings
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Shiurry: / shiuryy
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Lightpluto031: / lightpluto031
Zeno Sora: / sora_zeno
Arshixa: / arshixa
Lumicht: / lumicht
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Uiizzu: / lumicht
ShinobiTempest: / shinobitempest
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@DeathDarknessGaming
@DeathDarknessGaming Жыл бұрын
tbh i feel like if Gojo and Asta met, they'd be chill with each other, with Asta nerding out about gojo's infinity and six eyes, viewing it as unique magic.
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Fax
@Azaerus
@Azaerus Жыл бұрын
that would be great
@Chougui412
@Chougui412 Жыл бұрын
It's would be funny
@itsoracle
@itsoracle Жыл бұрын
nobody cares this is a fight
@izzymosley1970
@izzymosley1970 Жыл бұрын
​@@itsoracle well apparently the people who like this comment and the people who replying to this comment cared just because you don't care doesn't mean everyone doesn't care.
@ndprod.animationenthusiast9376
@ndprod.animationenthusiast9376 Жыл бұрын
Funny how people don’t realize how many verses have hacks abilities similar if not downright superior to Gojo’s infinity. I love Gojo and his ability but he’s not as powerful as many people make him out to be.
@guilha1506
@guilha1506 Жыл бұрын
Gojo is just a worst Zenon in some criteria
@Bandicoot19
@Bandicoot19 Жыл бұрын
@@guilha1506in every criteria Haha
@detrimental5190
@detrimental5190 Жыл бұрын
Lmao black clover mtfs are slow
@blisssyy
@blisssyy Жыл бұрын
tbh i only be hearing gojo get downplayed now a days. I genuinely dont think ive seen a one on one match up with gojo as the winner in months.
@JoeMama-sc2lv
@JoeMama-sc2lv Жыл бұрын
​@@blisssyy yea fr every matchup against him is just gojo vs somebody that counters him hard
@Chougui412
@Chougui412 Жыл бұрын
It's so wierd how every clue you need to know about Asta is in the anime but when get put in a fight people seem to forget to look at base Asta feats
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Yeah even Base Asta is arguably planetary at this point.
@Chougui412
@Chougui412 Жыл бұрын
Bruh 🤣
@darkidthedemon
@darkidthedemon Жыл бұрын
I say based of scaling
@Azaerus
@Azaerus Жыл бұрын
Fax
@toprotoshow3430
@toprotoshow3430 Жыл бұрын
homie manga gojo fucked up jogo, hanami, while using no infinity and trying to protect multiple citizens, ALL WITH PHYSICAL PROWESS, lets not talk about his super amazing eyes that give him infinite cursed energy and above all that his reversal red, lapse blue, hollow purple and reverse curse technique, what the hell is asta to a gojo at full power? get real
@darkidthedemon
@darkidthedemon Жыл бұрын
Anti Magic is type of Arcane Stage Magic. Arcane Stage Magic can effect physical/Invisible/Intangible concepts while also being above all effects and ignored laws of physics stated by Gaja and Lolopechika. Asta getting through infinite
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Hmmm
@Azaerus
@Azaerus Жыл бұрын
To see people who do not know what they are saying without investigating first I am going to explain or say some things, this is only for people of jujutsu or who do not know black clover well. Well let me tell you that cursed energy is another type of mana in the same mythology it says so where they say that there are types of mana and magic, the cursed energy of jujutsu is also known as Yoryoku which is spiritual energy and Asta erases this type of energy so denies gojo The other is that Asta is of Arcane level which has the ability to affect and ignore physical laws and natural laws and since it is a dark degree it has the ability to ignore, affect and destroy abstract concepts and infinity continues to be a concept which in black clover is mentioned and affected
@Azaerus
@Azaerus Жыл бұрын
@@Br0ku Broku remembers Moris, who himself explains the affectation and destruction of dark level concepts and later on, the spirit of water says that in Sacro mode, Noelle can ignore the concepts.
@Azaerus
@Azaerus Жыл бұрын
Hello bro Darkid
@darkidthedemon
@darkidthedemon Жыл бұрын
@@Azaerus Hello bro Thunder ⛈
@justinhigginbottom8668
@justinhigginbottom8668 Жыл бұрын
You can genuinely make an argument for over a dozen characters in BC bodying gojo. They all outscale and can negate infinity
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
There are definitely a slew of characters who can beat him in BC
@toprotoshow3430
@toprotoshow3430 Жыл бұрын
oh my god bro, IS ALL YALL CARE ABOUT IS INFINITY? this is why most BC fans should not talk about jujutsu kaisen i swear like what happened to his domain expansion and limitless ability and reverse cursed technique bro asta is trash compared to gojo and u have to put gojo at least against a whole kingdom to be talking fairness
@DistantHeiwa
@DistantHeiwa Жыл бұрын
@@toprotoshow3430 Its not talked about because they arent ever gonna hit asta lol. Asta way outscales Gojo in speed so its not like he'd ever get hit and he can just negate them with anti magic. Hell he even has anti magic skin that could possibly passively negate gojos domain expansion
@toprotoshow3430
@toprotoshow3430 Жыл бұрын
@@DistantHeiwa thats considering he even needs domain expansion but lets say what ur saying is true, did u see gojo playing pika boo against sukuna in like the 2nd episode? and his insane speed and physical prowess having him teleporting from 1 battle field to the literal HQ of jujuts high just to pick up itadori as a spectator, if that doesn't scream speed idk what will, try touching gojo but when he uses RCT all that shit u did just to even touch him was wasted.
@toprotoshow3430
@toprotoshow3430 Жыл бұрын
@@DistantHeiwa saying that asta is faster than gojo is like saying naruto is stronger than saitama, downright blasphemy. and i mean this wholeheartedly there is no speed feat asta can do that is compared to gojo's feats. like what are we talking about right now?
@omgjlmiub
@omgjlmiub Жыл бұрын
Anime casually breaking dimensions in a single attack. “Can’t even touch Gojo”
@mattia8020
@mattia8020 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's the typical JJ fan. They say he can't touch him and blah blah blah. Goku, Vegeta and Broly casually break dimensions just because they where fighting. And Goku and vegeta wasn't even full power because vegeta wasn't evolved blue and Goku wasn't kaioken and probably Broly have limitless (pun intended) potential. Aaaaand they aren't even close to be the strongest in DB super (anime) verse (angels, grand priest, Zeno guardians and Zeno are a thing). We want to talk about someone who doesn't scale at least galaxy level? Asta from black clover like said in the video, but probably even Yami could win with dimensional slash and with near light speed (he blocked licth attacks that are light magic soooooo). The same goes for Lucius (maybe even before demon time)
@Relax_Rombey
@Relax_Rombey Жыл бұрын
Asta is so underrated people only put him against deku
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Asta vs Meliodas coming up on the channel.
@Relax_Rombey
@Relax_Rombey Жыл бұрын
@@Br0ku nice imma watch it but I haven’t watched seven deadly sins, is it good in your opinion?
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
@@Relax_Rombey Yeah. I prefer reading it though. But the first season was adapted well.
@Relax_Rombey
@Relax_Rombey Жыл бұрын
@@Br0ku I’ll read it then for sure I’ve been enjoying manga way more for some reason
@Chougui412
@Chougui412 Жыл бұрын
Nice and interesting fight
@maxstorm3625
@maxstorm3625 Жыл бұрын
Let's remember in the latest black clover chapters, Asta can use his anti-magic without his sword but simply swing his hand with the zetten technique similar to Escanor's divine axe and divine sword special attacks. Also, even in the anime, Asta has been shown to use his anti-magic as an aura and a mini mana zone to deflect/negate attacks. If Asta can learn to use his anti-magic aura properly for long periods he could theoretically beat and negate almost anything or anyone that has to do with magic or concepts similar to magic such as chakra and genjustus in naruto since the target has to be imbued with the attacker's chakra first. Most attacks dealing with magic or concepts similar to magic will have no effect whatsoever.
@jacobblache9284
@jacobblache9284 Жыл бұрын
You saying this works against asta as the only way gojo beats asta is if his domain expansion works. The only reason his domain expansion wouldn’t work is if asta doesn’t actually have anti magic but his sword is a tool for anti magic
@maxstorm3625
@maxstorm3625 Жыл бұрын
@@jacobblache9284 Bro I'm saying the domain expansion will work but asta won't be affected just like Maki
@bj_cat103
@bj_cat103 Жыл бұрын
there is a problem with that tho, he has to use everything properly for it to work. To do this, he has to figure out everything about Gojo's powers very fast and here we have a problem: Asta is an idiot
@bj_cat103
@bj_cat103 Жыл бұрын
@@jacobblache9284 asta does indeed have mana, it was drained/suppressed by his mother, but it's there
@No-kw9wu
@No-kw9wu Жыл бұрын
@@bj_cat103just a question if gojo hits a domain expansion is that just a instant win
@thomasthecoolkid7228
@thomasthecoolkid7228 Жыл бұрын
The problem is, Gojo is vulnerable to a very specific kind of pocket reality nonsense. He is only able to be hit by use of a domain's sure-hit effect, meaning that the attack needs to essentially spawn right on his own spatial coordinates (confirmed means by which domain sure-hit works) in order to bypass Infinity. ...also, not just any spatial manipulation is enough to bypass it. People aren't banking on a random crit Black Flash against him, which they would if it was as simple as "just warp space lol". As for the sealing, you need to recall the exact way in which he got sealed. They waited until his cursed technique was exhausted from his use of Unlimited Void, he didn't think of pulling the "RCT to regen your CT" trick fast enough, then he got whacked by a whole flashback sequence from seeing "Geto" that stunned him just long enough for the Prison Realm to proc. It's not that he's just flat-out vulnerable to sealing, they had to jump through hoops to get it. I 100% agree with the power null weakness tho, but that's because power null is a weakness to anybody who's not explicitly immune to power null.
@marcierex4547
@marcierex4547 10 ай бұрын
yea but if a character can erase space and are faster then gojo they would legit win
@thomasthecoolkid7228
@thomasthecoolkid7228 10 ай бұрын
@@marcierex4547 Yeah but then there's downplayers like OthinusTheGod who think having any kind of space manip at all means you neg Infinity and neg Gojo
@marcierex4547
@marcierex4547 9 ай бұрын
@@Gamfluent causality manipulation can just remove infinity and also spacial magic gourges through space and erases things from existence so langris is slapping gojo too
@marcierex4547
@marcierex4547 9 ай бұрын
@@Gamfluent jogo was cocky and didn't use his sure hit and also gojos blind fold does nothing
@marcierex4547
@marcierex4547 9 ай бұрын
@@Gamfluent spacial manipulation can counter spacial manipulation if there's is stronger that's fucking common sense also existence erasure spacial rip cut and erasing can counter infinity as infinity is just the product of spacial manipulation in barrier form
@beowchengkan2395
@beowchengkan2395 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that curse energy is able to corrupt souls and turn them into curse spirits as we saw with Rika just like negative mana turning Licht into a giant demon.
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Good point
@doctoc684
@doctoc684 Жыл бұрын
Only to those with no defenses against it, you can resist the corruption with enough magic energy, strength of soul or body (Toji/Awakened Maki are immune due to this). Also it is Yuta who is a super potent Sorcerer talent against a kid's soul
@Aquayoru
@Aquayoru Жыл бұрын
Me got turned into a giant demon? 😰
@soul8648
@soul8648 Жыл бұрын
thank you
@QrowxClover
@QrowxClover Жыл бұрын
That's not what happened with Yuta. His CE made a husk around Rika and she was trapped inside it.
@Cosmo_1.00
@Cosmo_1.00 Жыл бұрын
i dont care what anyone says dimension slash is getting through infinity
@yokuutsu9097
@yokuutsu9097 Жыл бұрын
It's funny that most matchups that we can make for Gojo are just people who completely counter him
@7spadez251
@7spadez251 Жыл бұрын
to be fair you have to beat HAX with Anti-Hax
@roseoliveira6709
@roseoliveira6709 Жыл бұрын
And that's the problem with OP characters in versus match, they either stomp or get stomped, theres no in between
@brandenspor1650
@brandenspor1650 Жыл бұрын
@@roseoliveira6709 that’s why matchups from different versus are dumb
@roseoliveira6709
@roseoliveira6709 Жыл бұрын
@@brandenspor1650 it can be fun when the characters Have similar feats or powers like flash vs sonic is fun, but in cases like gojo vs itachi where the winning condition is "win who uses their trump card first" is really boring
@brandenspor1650
@brandenspor1650 Жыл бұрын
@@roseoliveira6709 yah I agree with that
@aimlessogg
@aimlessogg Жыл бұрын
this is one of the best videos ive ever seen, keep up the good work
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Thanks !
@Ch1l1C0nCarnag3
@Ch1l1C0nCarnag3 Жыл бұрын
A big issue with power scalers I've noticed is they always equate strength to speed. Those are completely different things. If a character was considered FTL and then got 80x stronger, that doesn't suddenly mean they're now 80x FTL. A bodybuilder doesn't suddenly become faster just because they got physically stronger. Unless they specifically train their speed, then that is going to more or less stay the same.
@sidenote2854
@sidenote2854 Жыл бұрын
It’s just the way mana works in black clover. Mana can be used to enhanced one’s physical strength and speed. It acts like a multiplier as stated in the guide book. So what’s different from anti-magic. It’s basically magic but with a elemental advantage to all magic.
@kaelebbessette851
@kaelebbessette851 10 ай бұрын
@Ch1|1C0nCarnag3, while the problem is prevalent in many scales, with Black clover, the usage and rules around mana skin means that the characters enhance themselves many times over, raising their bodys to similar levels of ap and speed of their magic, with a close range fighter like Asta being mostly equal to his anti-magic/magic speed, and speed being multiplied when an anti-magic or strength multiplier is used.
@roywempor8395
@roywempor8395 Ай бұрын
its clearly stated in black clover that your speed and strength are directly proportional to your magic power
@eSwagYT
@eSwagYT Жыл бұрын
amazing vid once again
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it. Thanks for watching.
@dragonyanice971
@dragonyanice971 Жыл бұрын
As a fan of both manga, I'm really glad I found this channel because while there's a lot of people who think of, and talk about Gojo as an almighty being who can not be defeated, there's a lot of ppl underestimate Asta and BC in general, so thank you for those videos Defending them.👍
@lore766
@lore766 Жыл бұрын
About the domain expansion thing, I would also like to add another way that asta kinda gets past it, like the fact his reaction speed is mftl+ as well he can react to MUCH more information than 6 moths in 0.2 seconds so his brain would not be fried regardless
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Exactly !
@Watermelon_Man
@Watermelon_Man Жыл бұрын
Literally how on Earth did you make that up? Being massively faster than 3 mil m/s does not automatically equate to half a year of information in 1/5th of a second. Also, we have no proof that this is a linear function, so it could exponentially increase as time goes on considering that the original statement of the domain was that it floods the victim’s brain with infinite information. Asta wins because he could blitz before the domain even activates. Let’s leave it at that.
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
@@Watermelon_Man the thing is that in Gojo’s all out domain expansion that he delivers 6 months of information in .2 seconds. The average human would take months to recover from that. Whereas Asta even lowballed can fight at thousands of times FTL. Which means that if they were 20 feet apart, Asta would reach Gojo in .000000000000000000000000001 seconds (guesstimating considering LS travels 186,000 miles per second) that means the information that was instilled in Asta would be a tiny fraction of 6 months and likely wouldn’t even effect him much, especially since Asta has resistance to mind manipulation.
@lore766
@lore766 Жыл бұрын
@@Watermelon_Man 1 I said mftl+ which is anywhere from 100-whateever finite amount of time faster than the speed of light, also the speed of light is 300 million not 3 in m/s. 2 we have been given the rate of which gojos information is given, so assuming anything about it other than that is going into headcanon and we would need proof of your claim and the claim gojo made is clearly hyperbolic considering that he doesn't give infinite information (bc if it were infinite then it would be infinite from the first second).3 I actually did do the math on it myself by finding how many bits of info we absorb per image and then finding out what the total bits per second gojos domain release inside the brain, iirc I got that ppl get that amount of info by going to speed around 240×the speed of light I can show my work if you like😁
@saiba726
@saiba726 Жыл бұрын
@@Watermelon_Man heres the thing with increased speed usually comes with increased thinking. Its even a constant in black clover that things scale on a 1:1 basis. So if you are stronger, you most likely will be faster. It doesn’t increase his intelligence but it will increase the rate at which it would take him to understand. Meaning he can comprehend it faster.
@alter6243
@alter6243 Жыл бұрын
Broku woke up today and chose to speak facts
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
I fear
@BigT0ny
@BigT0ny Жыл бұрын
Loved the vid
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 💪🏻
@rodthedigger2902
@rodthedigger2902 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@justsomelazybrit2707
@justsomelazybrit2707 Жыл бұрын
It's really dependent on if you think Anti-magic can negate the limitless or not. If it can, then Asta stomps with his massively higher stat scaling
@saleeksmith4765
@saleeksmith4765 Жыл бұрын
It's obvious that anti-magic work on cursed energy
@justinhigginbottom8668
@justinhigginbottom8668 Жыл бұрын
Even without it. Fate release just turns it off as it's straight up causality manipulation
@xdstriker
@xdstriker Жыл бұрын
Bro y’all debate as if Gojo’s only ability is infinity
@sasa-fh1kp
@sasa-fh1kp Жыл бұрын
@@xdstrikerhis others are even more useless
@IAmMega
@IAmMega Жыл бұрын
@@sasa-fh1kp purple and domain expansion murder asta 😂
@jesiahratliff8034
@jesiahratliff8034 Жыл бұрын
I'll agree with everything else but I don't know how to feel about the domain expansion not effecting asta W vid it was needed and you earned my sub
@LysergiaLand-L-25
@LysergiaLand-L-25 Жыл бұрын
Aye yo it’s been so long since i came here. Good to see you upload. 🔥
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Thanks for coming back 💪🏻
@Keithguyhaha
@Keithguyhaha 5 ай бұрын
You explained it perfectly👌🔥
@lazerith84
@lazerith84 Жыл бұрын
The other thing to consider is that Asta is so much faster than gojo - his brain is used to taking in info from 1000s of times faster than ftl - hitting him with a lot of info all at once is like one light speed jump for him
@SaraTBV
@SaraTBV Жыл бұрын
That's nothing compared to infinite void that overloads your brain with infinite amount of information and it's repeated
@midnighthunter5677
@midnighthunter5677 Жыл бұрын
U realise infiniti void would still work on him if he didnt use devil union because no matter how fast u can take up info it dosent matter if its infinite
@lazerith84
@lazerith84 Жыл бұрын
@@midnighthunter5677 I do and don’t agree with this - 1000s of times faster than light is just an functionally infinite. The very concept of trying to define infinity makes it finite. Gojo’s understanding would have to be so far beyond the average human to even conceptualize true infinity. Meanwhile to a human 1 second of light speed might as well be infinite data and that’s without even talking about how time is distorted as you approach light speeds
@midnighthunter5677
@midnighthunter5677 Жыл бұрын
@@lazerith84 u realise gojo himself said it is infinite information abd his ability is infinity. His ability isnt fast lightspeed illusion. Infinity is something that dosent end and also asta dosent react 1000 times faster than light cause if he did he would see patrys atacks in slow motion and he would see the dark triad in slow motion in base form. Plus he didnt manege to dodge sister lilis atack which im preety sure isnt 1000 times faster than light as it was never even stated
@midnighthunter5677
@midnighthunter5677 Жыл бұрын
@@lazerith84 trying to define infinity isnt making it finite . Infinity is infinite something with no end.
@guilha1506
@guilha1506 Жыл бұрын
Both are heavily underrated Most people have no idea about how their powers work, they just get the superficial idea. If you say that Asta and Gojo have conceptual haxs most people wouldn’t get it
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Gojo is overrated, despite being broken. Because people unironcially believe he can beat Goku. Asta is underrated, but anti-magic is overrated. IMO, at least.
@Relax_Rombey
@Relax_Rombey Жыл бұрын
@@Br0ku yea goku just stomps since he’s like 6D
@guilha1506
@guilha1506 Жыл бұрын
@@Br0ku I scale Gojo to Planetary with lowend FTL speeds, but his hax are the op part. Mugen is 5D and Hollow Purple is imaginary, having conceptual erasure. Because of his inner domain, hax from weaker characters don’t work, so if you are not planetary you can’t do nothing against him Asta can be scaled to Universal+ with Infinite speeds and has conceptual haxs If Hollow Purple lands Goku is one shotted, if the fight is in character he looses via domain expansion and Hollow Purple
@darkidthedemon
@darkidthedemon Жыл бұрын
@@guilha1506 I'm bout to start scaling Asta to Uni+
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
@@guilha1506 disagree with a lot of this. Jogo was nothing to Gojo but his hax still negged infinity.
@Chougui412
@Chougui412 Жыл бұрын
Plus W video man
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
💪🏻💪🏻
@ehudezra4610
@ehudezra4610 Жыл бұрын
Gap in stats too big in Asta's favour being small planet to Uni(depends on interpretation of Dorothy's dream world feat) and MFTL to infinite speed(JJK characters no way near FTL while many Black Clover characters are MFTL since The Elf arc) Also Asta can use dimension slash this ignore space Arcane mage's attacks ignore laws of physics which was stated pre timeskip Cursed Energy and Yoriyoku(something Asta easily erased) inspired from same sources and work relatively similar...based on this Asta can cut through the Mugen Also gap in speed and stamina in Asta's favour how Gojo would even be able to hit him... yes Gojo probably strongest or 2nd strongest JJK between him and Sukuna maybe post Tengen Kenjaku is up there but stat wise JJK characters just not that strong even Deku have better stats(not saying he'd win vs Gojo bc i think Gojo would murder him bc of hax battle experience and Deku not being MFTL or even ftl as he gets tagged by light attack), Black Clover have so much power cliffing i wouldn't be surprised if they surpass Bleach power wise you already (when highballing Lucius) can argue Lucius over Yhwach he has comparable hax can see multiple futures maybe even as many as grains of sand like Juha Bach and he can stop time for individuals or everyone can see to the future and have super hax soul magic which can manipulate someone's soul...only thing more ridiculous Juha can due is rewrite a future when he died so he'd come back to life) Gojo massively overestimated by fans who thinks he can beat Goku(heard some who thinks he beats Anos or Say Akuto like wtf)... he's not even that impressive hax wise
@zaimhoque8418
@zaimhoque8418 Жыл бұрын
NO
@ahojcau2904
@ahojcau2904 Жыл бұрын
Cap
@zaimhoque8418
@zaimhoque8418 Жыл бұрын
GOJO SLAMS THAT KID CRY ABOUT IT
@ahojcau2904
@ahojcau2904 Жыл бұрын
@@zaimhoque8418 fax
@duyquangnguyen5443
@duyquangnguyen5443 Жыл бұрын
Biased as heck Gojo can be scale to uni+
@akadenanderson3283
@akadenanderson3283 Жыл бұрын
I like this man, he's honest and uses facts unlike some other power scalers. He uses the context of the series to scale asta to large planetary. Not no data books or etc. Yo you should do some one piece content, you would get similar scaling in one piece.
@thedeadmemetrain8757
@thedeadmemetrain8757 Жыл бұрын
Tbh idk if Anti-Magic can negate Cursed Energy inherently (I get what you've said - and technically you could argue that Curse Spells support the idea further, but the differences between the two power systems as a whole make it a but implausible in my mind) but when you consider that Asta has Causality Break with Demon Destroyer (which could just turn off Gojo's Infinity) and he can bypass Infinity entirely with Demon Slasher as it can choose what it does and doesn't cut (explicitly stated, and we also see Asta using it to avoid collateral in Spade, among other showings) it's honestly not really a fair match-up in my mind. Asta can reasonably be scaled to Small Star Level and a good few million times FTL, but even with your Large Planet and baseline MFTL+ he *massively* outscales Gojo by every metric.
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Thanks. There’s also other evidence that further shows Asta winning even if AM did not work on Cursed energy or VE wasn’t used. The video was originally 35 minutes long but if cut 10 minutes out.
@chibuikemnwachukwu3662
@chibuikemnwachukwu3662 Жыл бұрын
You all have not seen a serious Gojo, and you claim Asta stomps? Y'all are judging Gojo with his teen feats
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Is that why the basis of his scaling is Adult Gojo?
@thedeadmemetrain8757
@thedeadmemetrain8757 Жыл бұрын
@@Br0ku That's fair, that's fair - you've gotta make the video a workable length, innit? Great video though, it raised some interesting points!
@chibuikemnwachukwu3662
@chibuikemnwachukwu3662 Жыл бұрын
@@Br0ku Gojo hasn't had any serious fights in his adult life, no one is up to the task. We only see him fight twice, and those times his enemies are way weaker than he is. So you don't know the full extent of his power, not the application.
@EmperorDxD
@EmperorDxD Жыл бұрын
Hay broko how do you measure speed in sense like is it purely based on movement or reaction based because The hulk is alot slower like being like the flash Hyperion and more but his reaction speed is so fast that he can catch them off gaurdian and counter them
@jam5837
@jam5837 6 ай бұрын
Off topic but what was the name of that game you showed on roblox
@simbaking67
@simbaking67 Жыл бұрын
It’s nice to finally find someone who does bc scaling. I’ve done so by myself for the most part and love to hear other’s peoples perspectives great video
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 💪🏻 drop any interesting power scaling takes you got
@simbaking67
@simbaking67 Жыл бұрын
@@Br0ku A good one would be dragon ball z Broly movie ssj+ Goku would beat super Buu or thats bc verse scales above the Naruto and one piece verse and is closer to bleach
@ronanregan1478
@ronanregan1478 Жыл бұрын
​@Simba King your smoking something bro 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
@@ronanregan1478 ?
@ronanregan1478
@ronanregan1478 Жыл бұрын
@Broku I meant to respond to simba King my bad 😅😅
@shaddollunlimited7792
@shaddollunlimited7792 Жыл бұрын
Keeping In mind that after using a domain gojo can't use infinity so that was the only way kenjaku's plan worked it was planned for him to pop a domain and then to seal him while limitless was down
@shaddollunlimited7792
@shaddollunlimited7792 Жыл бұрын
I also have a few new scalings imo gojo should scale massively above lightning since hakari could react and would have dodged kashimos lightning if it wasn't a homing attack and in the most recent chapters ruy who should be relative to kashimo if not on par with him and definitely above hakari got true perception blitzed by 15 finger sukuna and gojo should scale to a 20 fingers sukuna who should be atleast 2 times faster than 15 fingers sukuna since each finger should to be simple either a multiplier of atleast 2 or so or if we want to highball it should be something like to the power of since it's exponential so he should at bare minimum be as fast as a sukuna who should be around 24 ish times faster than kashimos lightning attack on the conservative side so he could be at least a percentiges of the speed of light and that speed feat of sukuna was a travel speed feet since he got behind Ryu before he could even percive he was dead so that could put gojo even much higher
@saiba726
@saiba726 Жыл бұрын
YOO i remember commenting on your video a while back about why asta scales super high and it was due to singularity, dorothy, and dante infinite mana. To see you use this in a video bru. My guy ik u aint got it from me but makes me proud
@rosure7
@rosure7 11 ай бұрын
I wanna mention that the black hole doesn´t scale to Yuki. She did a kamikaze attack using her ability thus working by setting it would be a vow because it´s sacrificing her killing her. So it´s more of a multiplier. And Kenjaku explicitly survived the black hole because he happens to have an anti gravity technique not because he could tank it. However in terms of Unarmed combat Gojo and Sukuna are stated to be top of the verse by the author only below the final versions of Maki and Toji.
@TOAOera
@TOAOera Жыл бұрын
Regardless of negative mana and curses being very similar, it's a little more different than you say it is. Curses = spiritual energy. Negative mana = demonic energy. With curses, there are special attributes like Domain Expansions (mana zone is different), special clan techniques, etc. Think of cursed energy as more comparable to chakra, except it runs of negative emotions. In fact, that's exactly what it is. Do you think Asta can waltz into the Naruto verse and negate a Rasengan? Cursed energy is more comparable to Chakra imo. And it's stupidly obvious that JJK is inspired by Naruto, it has very similar base plot points. Though I still agree, the similarities Cursed energy has to magic is really weird. 9:57 if Gojo's Hollow Purple truly is FTL than so is he. This is due to that curse with the weird arm (embarrassingly forgot its/her name) reacting to it last moment that they were able to. So Gojo must have FTL reaction speeds if what your saying is your honest opinion.
@dhanushs.s2093
@dhanushs.s2093 Жыл бұрын
ya the nature curse sprite hanami, that was downplay in my opinion gojo is surly ftl range in speed and dude can just teleprt around with the concept of -ve number 😂😂.... but i got do disagree with the first point even thought both jjk and black clover are a lot similar to naruto but both of them are inspired by bleach its blindly obvious that both the power system are inspired by spiritual energy....... anyways asta wins since he massively outscales gojo in stats currently gojo hasn't shown any feats that he could buff his states outragedly with his unlimited stamina....
@notori-di5et
@notori-di5et Жыл бұрын
Yea with recent feat gojo litearly tp 8000 km undergraduate break like multiple layer of tengen barrier which someone like kenajku sukuna having trouble breaking and tp straight to kenjaku and my man was shiting his pants until sukuna pull up but of course we could argue latest asta manga was fighting angel bulshit and other stuff I don't read bc but I keep with the latest chp
@jjk4002
@jjk4002 4 ай бұрын
Hanami sense hollow purple before it was actually fired off. She didn't react to it at the last moment unlike with sukuna. It's implied sukuna was the only one who reacted to it as it was being fired off and he was 4000 metres away.
@TheWildCard2k
@TheWildCard2k Жыл бұрын
How tf did you get a mach 20 ft from maki and what kind of mind games did you do to get anti magic to work on cursed energy
@whatdaheeellnoway
@whatdaheeellnoway Жыл бұрын
9:47
@greenlinxx7401
@greenlinxx7401 Жыл бұрын
Good video actually explaining things but at the same time this is the issue with characters the energy's of that universe we don't know how that would actually affect different universes such as cursed energy vs mana
@xdrago5602
@xdrago5602 Жыл бұрын
I dont use verse equalization. To me it's just a way for people to justify their character having advantages while ignoring the advantages it gives to the other verse. To call it just simpler is a blatant lie used for your own arguments. So for this comment theres no equalization. This means Negative mana and and cursed energy are not the same. Similarities does not matter as long as it's not called magic which cursed energy is not. Infinite void would work and would defeat Asta, the only problem is actually catching Asta in it. Asta has no way to stop it once caught inside. Once inside he can just hollow purple or just let him die out naturally. This means Asta with basic swings and anti magic wouldnt get past infinity as obviously a sword swing or whatever else he has at his disposal cannot traverse infinity. Asta with his dimensional slash though would get through infinity to my knowledge as it can destroy an infinitely sized dimension. AKA Asta can cut infinity in his verse meaning he can cut Gojo as long as he uses said technique. Hollow purple would not work at all in most cases. Asta's too fast and would easily dodge it. If for some reason asta is hit then obviously Asta is gone. So this fight just simply comes down to how long it would take Asta to figure this out and use dimensional slash and also how long would it take for Gojo to pop his domain expansion as these are the only 2 moves that really matter in this fight, everything else just wouldnt work either because Gojo is too weak, asta is too fast or it is stopped by infinity.
@Watermelon_Man
@Watermelon_Man Жыл бұрын
This is the comment I wanted to see. Verse equalization is literally just “we need to take away one character’s advantage and give it to the other.” If they’re not stated to have the same or similar name, it’s not the same power.
@saleeksmith4765
@saleeksmith4765 Жыл бұрын
Literally people don't pay attention to how Infinity is explained so they think it just works on everything when is not true
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Fax. Kinda similar to anti-magic
@saleeksmith4765
@saleeksmith4765 Жыл бұрын
@@Br0ku yeah I was saying that for the longest time anti-magic doesn't erase all magic because that would have been just too easy series would have been over by that
@guilha1506
@guilha1506 Жыл бұрын
Mugen is simply Gojo creating distance, anything that doesn’t need distance to work or can cross infinite distances would affect Gojo
@SaraTBV
@SaraTBV Жыл бұрын
​@@guilha1506 and yet most characters y'all think can be at gojo don't have infinite speed or can cross a infinite distance
@alejandro_rodriguez_99
@alejandro_rodriguez_99 Жыл бұрын
They still think that Gojo can defeat Makima
@fortress7493
@fortress7493 Жыл бұрын
In jjk movie its different as Miguel stated the same but rather use "atomic level" and this is the case as well in his teen years when he explained about his "barrier" and how it works in detail.
@MoonaHoshinovahololive-ID
@MoonaHoshinovahololive-ID Жыл бұрын
Theory The land that is above the spade kingdom is the Joker Kingdom. As we know, in the world of Black Clover, there are kingdoms of clover, heart, diamond, and spade. Then on the ace card there are other symbols such as the joker The joker card in the ace card game is a card that acts like a double-edged sword, the joker card can be a helper and turner when the game reaches an impasse, we don't have a card that is the same as the opponent's card, or if the card has kuta the value is too small but the joker card is too it could be the reason we lose if when we play our last card, it's just a joker card. And as we know, on some joker cards there is a picture of the joker playing in the circus using the clover, heart, diamond and spade symbols and also the joker which has the spade, clover, heart and diamond symbols on the legs, skirt, body and hat. You could say the joker card is the card that controls the clover, heart, diamond, and spade cards If the black clover manga takes reference from the joker card, the joker kingdom is a kingdom that controls and manipulates the spade, clover, heart and diamond kingdoms. It is possible that the king in the joker kingdom and the Joker people have special magic that can manipulate the minds and souls of other people, especially souls and the minds of people who have magic so it's possible that everyone's minds in the kingdom of spade, clover, heart and diamond are controlled by the magic of the joker king or the magic of the people of the joker kingdom. There is a possibility that the joker kingdom's manipulation magic uses special magic tools to cast large-scale manipulation magic because the joker kingdom is still more advanced in the field of magic tools than all the kingdoms in the black clover world, Asta may not be under the influence of manipulation magic because he doesn't have magic The joker kingdom can be said to be hostile to the spade, clover, heart, and diamond kingdoms including against Lucius Zogratis, so the main villain in black clover is not Lucius but the Joker Kingdom. In opening 11 black clover we can see there is a scene of black clouds coming from a place above the spade kingdom which quickly eat spade, diamond and heart kingdom and ends up in the clover kingdom. This scene in opening 11 black clover may be an indication that there is an unknown and very powerful enemy coming from an unknown region or land originating from above the spade kingdom and this kingdom will destroy the spade, diamond, herat, clover kingdoms and there is a possibility that they are also hostile to the elves Elysia, Queen of the Witches of the Forest and also Hino Kuni. The road to the Joker Kingdom might be blocked by large high mountains or super strong magic zones so that the people of the Spade Kingdom and Lucius think there is nothing behind the mountains and the magic zone. The Joker Kingdom may be inhabited by many races such as humans, Dark Elves, demi-humans, Undead, Elder Litch, Lizard Man, Harpy, Pixie, Dwarf, and Dark Dwarf, we know that Charmy is a half-dwarf human but the dwarven race doesn't exist in the kingdom of clover, spade, diamond, heart, and Hino Kuni so it's possible that the dwarven race is in the joker kingdom and also land spirits may also exist in the kingdom joker. Hino Kuni might be above the joker kingdom and separated by a strait or a vast ocean but also at the same time be under the clover kingdom. The Joker Kingdom might have a connection with demons like Luicifugus/Lucifugae and Adramelech because Adramelech's behavior helped Lucius' plan without any suspicious protests so maybe Adramekech would betray Lucius. The Joker Empire might attack Lucius, Yuno, and Asta from behind when both of them are exhausted in the fight or Lucius is attacked when he thinks he has won or Asta and Yuno are attacked when they have won. The Joker Kingdom's sudden attack will leave Lucius, Yuno, and Asta seriously or critically injured. The person who activated the qlihot tree ritual during the qlihot war 2000 years ago was probably the joker kingdom and not the spade kingdom, the joker kingdom might have controlled the spade kingdom or maybe the kingdom on that continent used to only have the joker kingdom and a free area without a king and activate the spade kingdom ritual or that region. The qlihot roots spread throughout the earth including Hino Kuni but after the qlihot tree was destroyed and they lost, they withdrew back to their kingdom but records about the qlihot ritual were still kept in the spade kingdom. After the qlihot war, warlords established the kingdom of spades, clover, heart and diamond, and the land of the shogunate Hino Kuni or the land of the rising sun
@glupigang1900
@glupigang1900 11 ай бұрын
i still think asta wins but some stuff i do disagree with i agree that anti magic can cut through cursed energy like limitless but i don't think it would work on stuff like blue red and purple due to the attacks themselves not being made out of cursed energy they are formed due to gojos techniques causing an error in reality like blue being made because gojo causes a negative distance this doesn't mean they can hit asta due to him just being fast tho lol they might catch him off guard and as we see in gojo vs sukuna he can just spam it also in that fight we see his insane regen with reverse curse but that would be disabled asta so this is a really bad match up for gojo
@nova7628
@nova7628 Жыл бұрын
i feel like when scaling verses with Magic/Ki/Chakra etc, you should try and adapt the power system of the character you're saying "solos" to the verse that they're going to be fighting against for example with asta and gojo(Im not too familiar with either of these anime but heres my... probably not great take) If you put gojo into the black clover universe and said "solo this universe but your curse functions on their power system(magic/mana)" and he got to fighting asta and tried using infinity (he'd probably be up first since he's the mc) anti magic would negate infinity (remember, im not too knowledgable on these two universes, i was just using the basis of the video for my example)
@ThatGuyWithNoLife
@ThatGuyWithNoLife 7 ай бұрын
Can asta cut through the DE without moving or being able to process his thoughts? Or will his anti magic be some sort of Simple Domain?
@kareemdavis
@kareemdavis Жыл бұрын
I think we honestly should wait for the mangas to end to do a scale between them. We have never seen gojo’s true power (not saying he’s stronger than asta) and Asta is still learning new things about himself and his power.
@ATrocius
@ATrocius Жыл бұрын
Yeh
@yrahcaz0132
@yrahcaz0132 Жыл бұрын
Anti magic working like Toji's heavenly restriction would probably be the best way to look at this, but even if it didn't, anti mana skin is basically the same thing as simple domain or hollow wicker basket, which are both anti domain expansion techniques. Asta having that on passively would already be enough to counter infinite void at least slightly, allowing him to attack and end the fight.
@Naldinho456
@Naldinho456 3 ай бұрын
Your wanking that too much pure head Canon
@jordandavilabrown294
@jordandavilabrown294 Жыл бұрын
2:54 I will admit that curse energy and negative mana have similarities but the thing is negative mana is still just mana with negative energy where as curse energy is negative energy as a whole and Asta's anti-magic only affects magic/mana and keep in mind that the curses used in Black Clover are magic base with the only exception being Liebe's anti-magic, so by that logic Asta wouldn't be able to cancel out Gojo's techniques but it doesn't mean that Asta doesn't have a way around them, for example his demon slasher allows Asta to slash his intended target which includes space itself, this means Asta still has a chance at winning.
@needledealer9971
@needledealer9971 Жыл бұрын
):40 Bro that's my wall paper, thought I exited my browser for a sec
@aiden_ifc3669
@aiden_ifc3669 Жыл бұрын
So does Asta need to have similar or stronger ap than his opponent to defeat them? And that would be how he scales to planetary cause his attack potency is capable of defeating lucifero.
@pajamapantsjack5874
@pajamapantsjack5874 Жыл бұрын
Glad I picked up an asta figure when I did. Now I need a gojo one so they can fight
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
I need to find a Gojo figure
@TheBuckethead
@TheBuckethead Жыл бұрын
i agree with the outcome of this but i still think hollow purple isn't as weak as it turns out to be because he technique brings impossibilities into existence and his normal technique bends spacetime and we have yet to see awakened gojo at 100%. because he should be able to use domain and hollow purple at the same time because he essentially has unlimited ce. or he could use a maximum hollow purple, and since hollow purple is the equivalent of wrapping space time in a ball and launching it it technically is no longer magic once it is launched. which yeah asta could dodge it but i really don't think asta could tank it because a hollow technique is technically a impossibility. because hollow techniques should cancel eachother out which literally means hollow purple doesn't exist and it shouldn't be a visible object because of imaginary mass. the reason he states himself as the strongest is probably because he has a maximum hollow purple which is technically more deadly than a black hole. still though asta would still body gojo but i think hollow purple needs a little bit more credit along with limitless because he brings the impossibilities with infinity into existence. hollow purple scales above a black depending on how big it is and lets be honest the only 2 hollow purples we've seen had people in mind. the fight with toji was soully to kill toji and the one in the anime was so he didn't kill his students. but still asta bodies gojo completely if he can hit through infinity which he can with magic negation.
@davidadebanjo2291
@davidadebanjo2291 11 ай бұрын
Also what do you think happens when anti_magic comes into contact with domain amplification
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 11 ай бұрын
It would negate it. Domain amplification is described similarly to Langris spatial magic and Asta negates that like it’s nothing.
@silvertongue-242_99
@silvertongue-242_99 Жыл бұрын
It depends on the domain expansion like we're not sure if that's how gojo domain works. Just that is just the rules for domain expansion barrier like sukuna able to use his power on non curse energy objects
@emperorjayzee1288
@emperorjayzee1288 Жыл бұрын
Great vid man earned a sub. There actually is a difference between a character traveling an infinite distance and a character moving in stopped time due to them moving their body that fast. A character has infinite speed if they are able to cross and infinite distance in a specified amount of time above zero, example if character A runs across the universe in 5 seconds and the universe is infinite in size and distance, character A has infinite speed. But if a character can travel any distance in stopped or frozen time without the usage of any ability and only their raw speed, they have 'inaccessible' speed, example, character B runs from England to Australia or crosses the same universe that character A crossed so fast that time did not move at all when character B was running, then character B has inaccessible speed. Inaccessible speed is a while tier above infinite speed in powerscaling so any character with inaccessible speed would utterly sooed blitz any character with infinite speed. I recommend watching Surfbone's speed tiering video for a more understandable explanation than this, but I just wanted to point something out you said wrong in the video. So basically, Inaccessible speed>Infinite speed>MFTL+ and slower speed tiers.
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I know inaccessible speed. But, there’s massive debate on inaccessible speed and infinite speed being the same thing. This is because in theory, moving at infinite speed = Traveling any Finite distance in Zero time.
@monsterhunter4life975
@monsterhunter4life975 Жыл бұрын
I really thought that gojo would easily win but after watching this video I think that Asta would stomp
@jakewolfe610
@jakewolfe610 Жыл бұрын
so glad to see someone in the anime community that is smart enough to think about this stuff instead of just hating right away, much respect to you
@Azaerus
@Azaerus Жыл бұрын
🫡
@Azaerus
@Azaerus Жыл бұрын
It is a joy to the soul when there are people who leave their ego and their bias aside
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Yet already so many Gojo Stans so funny here
@jakewolfe610
@jakewolfe610 Жыл бұрын
@@Br0ku yeah and they cant even back up their claims, all they can do is hate and cry about Gojo being weaker than a wide buff mada mada midget XD
@neroabele2716
@neroabele2716 Жыл бұрын
You know, since I don't know how either side is really matched (I don't fully understand Power Scaling rn.) I wonder if you would ever consider Doing Asta vs. Meliodas from Seven Deadly Sins. I know its a fan debate, and alot of people says its a one sided in Meliodas's Favor, but I want to know your take on it. Also Love the Content, Keep it up! Sorry if I accidently lit a Flame.
@jakewolfe610
@jakewolfe610 Жыл бұрын
he's actually going to be making a video on that very topic soon!
@neroabele2716
@neroabele2716 Жыл бұрын
@@jakewolfe610 Ah okay, thanks for letting me know!
@GojoClearOfMakima
@GojoClearOfMakima Жыл бұрын
well done video. all of the info you have to back you up. no complaints. and I love gojo but yeah he’s only op in his verse
@rain-mk6mf
@rain-mk6mf Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, u don't need Intangibility and other haxs to bypass limitless, gojo stops things based on mass and speed, that means he always have to keep track of things, his ability is active all the time but he is always passively processing those informations which damages his brain, that's why he uses rct to counter that and infinity is always active. U just need to move faster than he can process to bypass infinity. I am pretty sure any light speed character should bypass it.
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
I agree but didn’t want to mention it in the video because it’s very controversial and didn’t necessarily matter anyways 💪🏻
@Grayson-Winchester
@Grayson-Winchester Жыл бұрын
Gojo already fought someone with heavenly restrictions. He wouldn't underestimate Asta's pure physical prowess. Gojo knows for sure that no magic powers equals inhuman physical capabilities.
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s true.
@toprotoshow3430
@toprotoshow3430 Жыл бұрын
asta is not toji, remember that.
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
You’re right! Toji is far weaker and slower.
@rohanafzal522
@rohanafzal522 Жыл бұрын
@@Br0ku this reply hits so hard
@Chougui412
@Chougui412 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@peanutbutter9409
@peanutbutter9409 11 ай бұрын
You should do the updated versions of the characters when we get to see there new capabilities in the mangas
@SirNeebert
@SirNeebert Жыл бұрын
We answering questions no one asked with this one!🔥🔥🔥
@Xela-1603
@Xela-1603 Жыл бұрын
By the way since Yami could cut Dorothe's Dimension which is infint wouldn't that mean that Yami could hit Gojo even with his Limitless activ
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Pretty much
@RevolutionaryLoser
@RevolutionaryLoser 11 ай бұрын
Personally I think if Gojo had time to throw everything he had at Asta he would win pretty quickly but even early into Black Clover Asta is much much faster than Gojo could handle. If Toji could get the jump on Gojo Asta could do it several times faster and Gojo's reactions arent supernatural, he cant counter an attack he cant sense.
@niv.m6548
@niv.m6548 7 ай бұрын
dude that was a 16 year old no experience and un awakend gojo. why are you comparing his pre mature arc to asta
@MopeyToapy
@MopeyToapy Жыл бұрын
I mainly just want to say that I Love Your Voice
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Well thanks 💪🏻
@kevinsilva9979
@kevinsilva9979 Жыл бұрын
I like the analisis, but anime powerscalers can't keep using stuff like "faster than light" and not mention that anything with mass at that speed would be impossible. Powerscalers will use real world physics and then say real world phisycs don't apply
@sidenote2854
@sidenote2854 Жыл бұрын
Because it’s anime. They use real world calculations not real world physics, although some do what you just stated, but Broku is quite reliable when it comes to that problem. Besides it’s anime.
@Fulcratic
@Fulcratic Жыл бұрын
Because fiction is fiction, you're not supposed to think logically of fiction because fiction is the furthest thing away from it.
@GMYSTERYICTNF
@GMYSTERYICTNF Жыл бұрын
Really wanna see Julius vs Gojo Time vs Space Julius not Lucius because that'd be over kill XD
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Hmmm
@andriagamgoneishvili8468
@andriagamgoneishvili8468 Жыл бұрын
i dream of the day you do mash vs asta. and trust me. mash has a chance.
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
I will do Mash videos this year 💪🏻
@edwardchau6871
@edwardchau6871 Жыл бұрын
Like mash from FGO?
@laimai6103
@laimai6103 Жыл бұрын
Mash gets washed by Base Asta pre timeskip
@Interlink.
@Interlink. Жыл бұрын
​@@edwardchau6871no lmao that wouldn't be fair
@minorsmile0942
@minorsmile0942 2 ай бұрын
I don't think Hollow Purple is lightspeed, but I agree with pretty much everything else. Nice job, seeing Black Clover scaling is always really cool!
@echidnabathwater6627
@echidnabathwater6627 11 ай бұрын
An exceptional amount of misconceptions here with a large amount of detail towards Asta but a brazenly low amount of detail towards Gojo, which I understand you pointed out is due to the Yami video but even in the Yami video. . . it's exceptionally low towards the actual defining of his abilities. Starting with Limitless let me get out of the way that I fully 100% agree that Anti - Magic and other magic nullifying properties should affect Limitless even if the systems weren't the same, because in a world where the two are fighting the special nature of their abilities should be uniform i.e if interacting with magical energy is the same as interacting with cursed energy in both verses they should align in a fight. I also agree that Gojo GENERALLY tends to be vastly overhyped in most scenarios, but adversely he is also heavily underwhelmed as well due to the nature of him being overhyped. Starting with Limitless, as I already stated Asta would in fact be able to slice riiiiight through it. The problem is the actual force expended by Limitless is not an application of Limitless itself, it is just the outward expulsion of atmosphere and pressure from a newly generated infinite space. The only part of "magic" in this context coming through it is directly coming off his body. This is why when Gojo was fighting Toji and was being aware of the inverted heavenly spear, he would simply repulse him backwards, as it could not negate what isn't inherently the cursed technique itself. It's simply pure physical force that can be applied infinitely. Next his Six eyes. This is an exceptional understatement of what these eyes can do. The Six Eyes is generally stated to be able to perceive the world at a distinctly accelerated pace, allowing him to process three years worth of information in a single second. That amount of time doesn't directly relate to speed, but we have seen Yuta react to light speed attacks from the cursed spirit Geto summoned so let's get that right out of the park right there. We've also seen Gojo directly review things in a state where time is frozen, the way he views the world is inherently different. The reason this wasn't applicable to Toji isn't just because Toji is faster than light. . . cause he isn't, but because before Gojo "awakened" the way his eyes reviewed things was distributed across everything, he had no focus. That's why when he ascended after Toji fucked his shit in, everything was reviewed much slower, as if it was frozen in time, and he was able to seemlessly avoid Toji's attacks with simple physical movements despite the fact that Toji physically should be much faster. His speed. He does have out right teleportation, teleportation is an irrelevant factor when measuring speed, but it should be brought up anyways. However, as stated during the Hanami and Jogo fight, Gojo's speed can directly be amplified by Blue, which generates an imaginary space for him to fulfill and attracts inwards. This means he is moving at Tachyon speed through simple cursed energy manipulation. There is something that is often misunderstood about Tachyon particle speed relevance to light speed in which the statement generally is as simple as "it simply moves faster than light" but it's not quite so easy to explain. In terms of relative science a Tachyon particle has as much difficulty slowing itself down to light speed as we would speeding a relevant mass to light speed, in further explanation the general relative speed is that of a planck time unit in which light travels a planckth length in time, which is 5.39×10−44 s, basically an irrelevant monitoring of time. This is backed up by the fact that at the time when he and Jugo were fighting, he went to go pick Yuji up, which was in the city vs the outskirts of the fight, and was able to get him, and arrive back, before the process of him leaving ever registered in Jugo's mind. Also the fact that he was able to travel the entire continent in less than a second during 0, and he was able to travel contintental distances in micro seconds during the games arc, as when he was unsealed from the prison he was immediately where he needed to be, twice over, despite being placed in an entirely different part of the ocean and inside of a massive cursed beast that was at the bottom of the ocean floor, which he also survived the pressure of immediately. Physical abilities like striking strength can sometimes become hyperbolic because he is able to apply limitless to his physical capabilities which is also stated by Jugo and Kenjaku during his fight against Hanami and Jugo, where they tried to limit his usage of bodily applications of Limitless based on the fact that if he were to even walk by someone at the speed or power he registers with that applied to his body they'd die. Normal people cannot even exist in his presence when he is amplifying his body this way. Also want to point out that yeah he negged a meteor that Jugo says would have wiped out Japan when facing against Sukuna which is further backed up by the fact Sukuna took the time to neg the technique because he didn't want the games to end just yet and it was dangerous for Megumi despite the fact he was in an entirely different city at that point, and that meteor was created without the domain which amplifies their powers excessively whereas what Gojo negated was within' the domain. Unlimited void - This is instantaneous. It's irrelevant speed, it doesn't inherently matter how fast you are unless you assume Asta can blitz him so fast he can't even process the thought to activate it. But this also removes that possibility as this ability defines his own ability to think about things at an infinite capacity. Because this ability, affects him too. He uses reverse cursed technique to regenerate his brain, but the outload of infinite information would be enough to incapacitate Asta pretty easily. Moreover Asta wouldn't even be able to consider using anti magic to break out, because it isn't just infinite information being downloaded into the brain. It's an Aleph 2 amount of information as it's infinite information in relative to yourself in relation to every moment you are exposed to it and the moment you are in. That 6 month time frame of information loading into their brains has infinite information for every second of those 6 months. Which is why a lot of people wouldn't ever recover even with such a short time frame. Reverse Red: This is not a cursed technique. Heavenly spear did not negate this technique because the actual mass being utilized doesn't exist, the inverse of infinity is just replicating an infinite output of force. It's an infinite repulsion of imaginary mass. Now an argument can be made that anti magic might be superior in terms to how it negates magic than the heavenly spear which is up for debate, but I thought this should be put in there for food for thought. Hollow Purple is not a debate however, as it expressly defines the fact it does /not/ have cursed energy. It does utilize cursed energy to manifest, but once "there" the actual existence of it is null. It is a concept of 0. It isn't anything, which is why anything that it comes into contact with ceases to exist, it's an overwhelming form of absolutely nothing. General consensus is despite the fact anti magic can work on Infinite, Asta still isn't touching Gojo because he won't be able to break the outward expulsion of force generated by the infinite space, he isn't actually faster given blues relative boost, reverse cursed technique still works even through negation as we discovered when going through the fight with Toji and the heavenly spear stabbing into his body yet he was still able to use reversed curse technique, domain expansion is instantaneous and an instant win con, and. . . well yeah. Gojo negs Asta.
@viorp5267
@viorp5267 11 ай бұрын
17:18 At the time Gojo was attacked here he had to consciously activate infinity, but after this incident he figured out to keep it on all the time. So this wouldn't work. Gojo didn't have his infinity activated during that attack. Then there is the problem of... what does asta cut? An abstract ability like 'as you get closer to me the speed at which you approach me is infinitely halved' seems way too abstract to cut unless it's an actual aura of some kind getting emitted and then it's a question of raw power output so Asta wins. Then there is the fact he can just momentarily shut off Gojos powers and cut him that way. So when the video was made 5 months ago Asta would auto-win on that. The recent Jojutsu kaisen chapters revealed some powerful stuff about Gojo, he can use reverse cursed technique to destroy parts of his brain, regenerate it and reset 'cooldown' on his abilities. So if Asta shut off his magic he could possibly turn it off quickly...it would probably affect the reverse curse technique though... so maybe not. So asta still wins. Then there is the Domain Expanssion... Gojo can't have his infinity actiavted there and a normal human is knocked out in 0.2s so more than enough time for Asta to kill him. Yeah he wins.
@Winddemonslayer
@Winddemonslayer Жыл бұрын
I say we should wait to see Gojo finally go all out in the manga but for now I agree that Asta would win
@Thicccbankai
@Thicccbankai 7 ай бұрын
Deadass just subbed cause you're the first anime tuber that doesn't suck the absolutely soul outta gojo
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 7 ай бұрын
He’s one of my faves but I do believe he is very wanked
@danielcontos5541
@danielcontos5541 Жыл бұрын
Would love to hear your thoughts on base Asta vs fully heavenly restriction Maki, hand to hand no weapons.
@danielcontos5541
@danielcontos5541 Жыл бұрын
Like just full physical brute force
@shadowwalker118
@shadowwalker118 Жыл бұрын
I love how the debate community always wants to upscale their favorite character but hate it when you upscale the one they are debating against. Was in an argument with someone who thought Luffy could beat Omni Man.
@derpypotato677
@derpypotato677 11 ай бұрын
19:50 It is worth mentioning that Asta could not do this in base with no swords before he made his first deal with Liebe. When he gave up his arm in that deal, it became Liebe's and as such was infused with anti-magic. Giving him access to it without his swords in base. This is mentioned pretty clearly as, "because of our deal." (though I don't remember where.)
@michaelespinoza2150
@michaelespinoza2150 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see full power Sukuna vs Asta, I have a feeling I’d be funnier since he has a thing for fighting kids so the dialogue would be A1😂😂😂😂
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
I have an idea of Asta vs Sukuna in a devil-binding ritual
@justicefulzogratis
@justicefulzogratis Жыл бұрын
The fight would be over in 0.1 seconds
@esguy502
@esguy502 Жыл бұрын
@@justicefulzogratis sukuna will win
@redninja3056
@redninja3056 Жыл бұрын
@@esguy502 I mean right now I don't think Sukuna would win
@esguy502
@esguy502 Жыл бұрын
@@redninja3056 right now most likely not
@laz0544
@laz0544 Жыл бұрын
The important thing is anime fans not understanding if you stope time you can’t see or move 😂😂
@another_eu_player8035
@another_eu_player8035 11 ай бұрын
I mean dimension slash cuts dimensions right? That should go through infinity.
@kartikkashyap213
@kartikkashyap213 11 ай бұрын
No need, Asta has ♾️ Slash
@saiba726
@saiba726 Жыл бұрын
U could also mention infinity slash that is stated to cut anything and is faster than dimensional slash. Which is infinite in speed. Meaning asta could one shot him in an instant
@goldenstamon1443
@goldenstamon1443 9 ай бұрын
Infinte speed literally doesn't matter since it has to cover infinite distance, speed is irrelevant when infinity is involved
@saiba726
@saiba726 9 ай бұрын
@@goldenstamon1443 in order to cross infinite distance you need infinite speed. Do you not know how physics work?
@goldenstamon1443
@goldenstamon1443 9 ай бұрын
@@saiba726 No? No matter how fast you are, if the distance is never ending, there is no point, YOU don't know physics, infinite distance with infinite speed is still infinity, bruh how do you confuse that....
@saiba726
@saiba726 9 ай бұрын
@@goldenstamon1443 being able to travel an infinite distance in finite time = infinite speed being able to travel a finite distance in 0 time = infinite speed being able to travel an infinite distance in 0 time = infinite speed being able to travel any distance in negative time = immeasurable speed being everywhere at the same time = irreverent speed in these speed categories, Authors can further choose if those "infinitely fast" characters abide by simple "all of them are infinite" rules and leave it at that, or introduce what I like to call "Ordinal Speed": ω mph, ω+1 mph, ω+2, ω+ω, ω×ω, ωω, etc… with all of those being "infinite speed in finite/zero time", while some of said characters are still "faster" than others. reaching ∞ in 7 seconds, vs reaching ∞ in 9 seconds, vs reaching infinity in 0 seconds. all got to infinity in finite time, so all of them are infinitely fast; but they did it in different finite times.
@saiba726
@saiba726 9 ай бұрын
@@goldenstamon1443 In relativistic physics, there isn't a meaningful notion of infinite speed. Also, in general, the time it takes to traverse a distance is given by distance/speed, which in this case would be ∞/∞, which is an indeterminate form.
@tescobakery1927
@tescobakery1927 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Death Battle: *Ok but can he beat Deku tho*
@lordscarfy391
@lordscarfy391 Жыл бұрын
Hey so Broku, let’s say if Asta’s Zetten is actually a 100x amp instead of 40. And after all the feats he’s proven up until this point, would Asta with Zetten still be large planetary or could he possibly scale up to Dwarf star level ?
@jakewolfe610
@jakewolfe610 Жыл бұрын
possibly dwarf, because he scales around large planetary before, so making it around 100x stronger might be just the thing that puts him at dwarf star level
@nicholastauiliili
@nicholastauiliili Жыл бұрын
Still some distance from dwarf star level, the smallest star we've found (in mass not size) is a red dwarf that was slightly smaller than Saturn and about 70x the mass of Jupiter which in itself is over 300x Earth's, white dwarfs are earth sized but they're even worse since their mass is 200,000x earth Basically the minimum is busting something with a mass 10's of thousands that of earth
@nickeel8401
@nickeel8401 Жыл бұрын
Anyone familiar with Accelerator from the Certain Scientific/Magical Railgun/Index series respectively? Gojo’s ability reminds me alot of his vector control ability
@scottstaker6818
@scottstaker6818 Жыл бұрын
Gojo is just a rebrand of the green baby's ability from jojos part 6. Came out 15 years before
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Not that far into JoJos. Interesting
@Trunkaholik
@Trunkaholik Жыл бұрын
Both are literally taken directly from the tortoise and hare fable, its not like gege saw the green baby's ability and was like "yeah that's mine now"
@scottstaker6818
@scottstaker6818 Жыл бұрын
@@Trunkaholik what? The hare falls asleep in that and has to catch up but can't. Idk what crack you're smoking
@bogmanosaka472
@bogmanosaka472 Жыл бұрын
​@@Trunkaholikokay give me the mental gymnastics on this one lmao.
@Trunkaholik
@Trunkaholik Жыл бұрын
@@bogmanosaka472 BC fans try not to be illiterate (impossible)
@editimpact66
@editimpact66 Жыл бұрын
Gojo is one of, if not the most overwanked character in all of anime I've seen.
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Which is sad becuase he’s actually pretty potent
@editimpact66
@editimpact66 Жыл бұрын
@@Br0ku who you got Gojo vs Garou?
@SaraTBV
@SaraTBV Жыл бұрын
Nah that's goku
@editimpact66
@editimpact66 Жыл бұрын
@@SaraTBV nah lol not even Goku is so overhyped. They say he can somehow beat Goku :))
@editimpact66
@editimpact66 Жыл бұрын
@@Br0ku Garou vs Gojo who you got?
@zezi0930
@zezi0930 11 ай бұрын
Id love to know how gojo vs kumogawa will turn out
@Cromenick
@Cromenick 8 ай бұрын
I suggest revisiting Gojo vs Yami.
@Tre337
@Tre337 Жыл бұрын
Asta speed bliz
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
I fear
@Chougui412
@Chougui412 Жыл бұрын
W
@Regonix
@Regonix Жыл бұрын
Before video: Gojo stops entire Black Clover verse. After the video: Gojo not only stops, but does so while blind, deaf and sleeping. All arguments you made are either incorrect or is an actual counter argument against block clover instead of being an argument.
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
Literally no.
@Regonix
@Regonix Жыл бұрын
@@Br0ku Literally yes. Domain expansion can not be blocked, it just hits. Even if Asta is somehow magically faster than Gojo, and Gojo can move at infinite speed, Asta will instantly be negged by domain expansion. There is no protecting against it. Like Gojo can't use his space hax against other domain expansions, the same applies to Asta and his anti-magic. Asta get one-shot and that's the end for him.
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
@@Regonix 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Regonix
@Regonix Жыл бұрын
@@Br0ku at least you are being honest that you have no arguments :D :D :D
@galaxyvulture6649
@galaxyvulture6649 Жыл бұрын
​@@Regonix Gojo doesn't have infinite speed and domain expansions can be broken which would be incredibly likely that asta could do it.
@The-fs5wn
@The-fs5wn Жыл бұрын
It’s like comparing any new gen hax-heavy character to someone like Goku. There’s no new gen shonen character that remotely touches him, but some people apparently think low tier hax overrule everything else. It’s the same with Gojo. Luffy stomps, Naruto stomps, Ichigo stomps, and so does everyone with FTL scale speed.
@sleshstamp
@sleshstamp Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think writers put in stuff like "space-time" because it sounds cool rather than that actually meaning anything. At the end of the day hollow purple is just a cool strong energy blast.
@DistantHeiwa
@DistantHeiwa Жыл бұрын
Nah the writer of jjk actually does stuff like that. Many cursed techniques use concepts. Gojo is actually using infinity and merging concepts together which is why his haxs are crazy. Many characters can get around his haxs by outscaling him like crazy though since jjk has low stats which even Deku could outscale lol
@Chougui412
@Chougui412 Жыл бұрын
Bro I heard like the writers of jjk did the math for Gojo ability
@Dr.HooWho
@Dr.HooWho Жыл бұрын
​@@DistantHeiwaI doubt deku could
@DistantHeiwa
@DistantHeiwa Жыл бұрын
@@Dr.HooWho Deku is over the entire verse in speed and haxs but the top tiers of jk slam because crazy haxs
@4nero_Dem0n1c
@4nero_Dem0n1c Жыл бұрын
You don't even need to use abilities to debate how 1 sided this match up is like even highball them as much as you can you'll only get Jjk characters to at least relativistic speeds While black clover characters went past FTL after which forest arc Any version of Asta within or after Elf arc blitzes pretty much any Jjk characters
@bj_cat103
@bj_cat103 Жыл бұрын
it turns out that Asta actually has mana, it was just drained by his mother so domain would probably work on him. I'd say that Asta is a counter to Gojo, but in real fight he would lose for a simple reason: he's an idiot, very strong, but very dumb at the same time. He often needed advice and/or help from others to use his abilities well, while Gojo is used to fighting on his own and outsmarting opponents like he currently does with Sukkuna. While in ideal situation Gojo should lose, he would probably win in reality due to a much higher bIQ
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
No
@zk-vd6uy
@zk-vd6uy 11 ай бұрын
0 mana his body operate like normal human irl and doesn't use mana he is invisible like maki and toji
@BravoRox
@BravoRox 2 ай бұрын
​@@Br0ku How so?
@Br0ku
@Br0ku 2 ай бұрын
@@BravoRox kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZzKqWSqpNyWgZIsi=SVahEr3rYD9Yn2fu
@vulnerablegrowth3774
@vulnerablegrowth3774 11 ай бұрын
So, if magic is not the same as cursed energy, would that mean that Asta has (low amounts of) cursed energy but not magic? What happens in this case?
@narunarukamii
@narunarukamii Жыл бұрын
Tbh Gojo's ability is literally the same as that one guy i forgot in Bungou stray dogs (he was my fav char) like literally thats crazy how there is so many abilites same as Gojo and arent talked about.
@juliusnovachrono4370
@juliusnovachrono4370 Жыл бұрын
Gojo is sexier than Asta (that we can agree on) but Asta beats him in every other way. His Anti-Magic just counters since it would basically make him a human Inverted Spear of Cursed Heaven
@Br0ku
@Br0ku Жыл бұрын
fax
@sasa-fh1kp
@sasa-fh1kp Жыл бұрын
i like astas design much more tbh
@Esteban-nk3nm
@Esteban-nk3nm Жыл бұрын
​@@sasa-fh1kpIt's arguably unique, meanwhile people have just been comparing Gojo's design to Kakashi, so take the L Gojo
@Chougui412
@Chougui412 Жыл бұрын
​@@Esteban-nk3nm Fr 🤣
@monkey1053
@monkey1053 Жыл бұрын
@@Esteban-nk3nm Well the creator of jjk is a fan of naruto so I can see why they are similar
@iamthebeatkiller6891
@iamthebeatkiller6891 Жыл бұрын
I love asta getting recognition 💀 make luffy gear 5 vs asta newest chapter one 💀
@Interlink.
@Interlink. Жыл бұрын
Luffy base is enough stop comparing fodders to luffy
@iamthebeatkiller6891
@iamthebeatkiller6891 Жыл бұрын
@@Interlink. mf you know what u speaking about 💀 mf isn't even above multi continent mf said base go learn powerscaling 💀
@iamthebeatkiller6891
@iamthebeatkiller6891 Жыл бұрын
@@Interlink. luffy biggest feats ain't even FTL in speed 💀 strength is weak asf reaction speed is FTL 💀 hax is better 💀 and all others everything goes to asta if add the new chapter asta it's overkill mf said folders and didn't give luffy feats 🤡 in base go home and cope harder 💀
@darkidthedemon
@darkidthedemon Жыл бұрын
Luffy doesn't even scale to Asta wdym
@gab_2444
@gab_2444 Жыл бұрын
@@Interlink. sanest g5 fan
@michaelholland1936
@michaelholland1936 Ай бұрын
Only if maulybe if gojo uses unlimited void on base Asta and even then I feel Liebe could possess Asta and break him out of it. Or can the anti-magic swords destroy unlimited void?
@El_Voltio
@El_Voltio Жыл бұрын
I just wanna mention that you didn’t talk about everything but idk if that change’s anything either. 1. Gojo has reverse cursed technique which is on always so if asta stabbed gojo he would probably just be able to heal with it. 2. Asta might not blitz gojo because of how much information the six-eyes actually takes in so he might be able to see asta. The six-eyes also could take in the information that asta has a devil in him or he could sense other things within asta as well. 3. Some people debate that gojos domain expansion actually works on maki because it floods the entire domain with infinity itself so who’s to say that a object floating in it (if it was living) wouldn’t be effected but that is just speculation. Domain expansion also negates cursed techniques of the people that are inside them. If we are saying mana is the equivalent to cursed energy then astas abilities would have to be equivalent to a cursed technique but that is probably also up for debate. Domain expansion also provides a guaranteed hit but idk how that would work against anti magic. 4. Another thing I wanted to mention is if red and blue are strong enough to pull asta simply because it’s the literal universe trying to correct itself (or at least that’s what some people describe it as) and idk if astas that powerful but I could be wrong because I haven’t read or watched black clover and I’m not trying to pretend I do so do correct me if I’m wrong and I’ll do my research if I am.
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