Do you understand that the SSJ4 doesn't exist in the real verse ? Dragon Ball -> Dragon Ball Z -> Dragon Ball Super -> Dragon Ball Daima. Other than that, everything else is not canon. You made a whole video to explain something that doesn't even exist in the first place. DB GT is a literally a different story with different characters. How can it mean anything if it displays Vegeta as daddy figure who forgot how to turn SSJ God when nothing actually happened to him in that timeline? He should be Ultra Ego. Same way we speculated that GT Goku in his adult form had already achieved MUI and other features from Dragon Ball super, otherwise it wouldn't make sense. With Goku the speculation went far because the idea behind him getting smaller and losing eventually too much power was good enough, but other than that, the whole plot of Dragon Ball GT was to make a "new" transformatin that looks badass, it was a success indeed; but there is absolutely no way someone who has supposedly lost his power becomes stronger after that it doesn't make sense, Goku GT when he becomes a kid is literally an ounce of his previous power, meaning SSJ4 is just a move to make him "gain back" some of the powers he lost, it was the transformation he could achieve only because he grow back his tail, if somehow there was another way for him to get older we could've seen a whole different transformation, maybe Beast Goku or Legendary SSJ Goku, at this point GT didn't follow any logic so we could've had any other transformation and it would still be badass, but it WONT be stronger than SSJ God... it has "God" in its name for a reason, the guy changed the game completely by becoming skinnier meaning his body is now divine

Even if gojo gets a domain off he’s already too dumb

Curses are kind of inspired by devils from bc

We have consistently seen in anime and manga that base fusion is a larger boost than ssb. Goku saying that fusion wont be enough tk beat beerus and goes with ssg which is very much so not enough either, doesn't mean fusion is weaker than ssg

100% agree

Jesus, this guy is the Kamala Harris of youtubers. Word salad and circle speak.

You do realize that super is also after dragon ball z?

What if tabata made the kijin form design like yami getting bigger in size just like how (BLEACH SPOILERS) kenpachi becomes in his bankai🔥🔥 i mean both of these are inspired from Oni

Goku is outerversal in super saiyan

Imo SSj4 is not stronger than God. In fact, I don't think it's even close. The universe wasn't at threat of being annihilated just by SSJ4 fighting... SsG did sending waves of destruction throughout the entire universe and even annihilated some planets from Earth when fighting Beerus. Also, it's never stated that Super Vegeto is stronger than SS4 only a maybe..something to tease the imagination. The only other time I would actually give this argument a shot would be Gt Goku after the 100 year time skip.

Looking back on it, i'm not gonna lie fam we be getting angry over anything even IF the outcome is correct Bro we gotta just take the dub sometimes 😭

If you want to create a story that’s like black clover I can help you, I have a pretty interesting idea that I think you’d enjoy.

Relax 😅 buuhan wasn't destroying the macrosm the vice shout was only threatening the living world by compressing it with the other time dimensions like the time chambers that exists separately from the living world 😂 then there's kid buu it doesn't make sense that buuhan is weaker than kid buu but it might actually just make sense if the fusions act as impurities reducing his destructive capacity since we even saw buuhan begging Goku not to free kid buu 🙂‍↔️ with that said we know exactly how kid buu destroys things he goes from planet to planet and finds joy killing by blowing up said planet but after learning instant transmission he can literally just appear there meaning he'd be so much faster at accomplishing the feat of destroying the universe unlike the last time and now he can even hop into the afterlife and continue wrecking havoc 😢 the vice shout is a technique that requires actual thinking it's not kid buu's style so he won't use said attack then there's the fact that they almost destroyed the Grand kai planet which is just as big as the living world so my scaling for z would be universal to universal plus 🙂 still don't think any character there could destroy the entire macrosm in one attack

There was a lot of oversimplification in this video which is fair, but it was a good video and Cradle is an awesome series.

Let's go Cradle advertising lmao. I loved Cradle and have re read the entire series 4 times. Sadly a fund of 1,000,000 though it seems large is probably not even large enough to animate the whole first book. Either way go read that shit

What's crazy is that Deku became the number one hero for five min

I’ve Always Wondered? Why is it that Asta has no Magic?

its never said that it was stronger than god

7:40 that is the weakest argument ive ever heard

GT definitely was downplayed alot but you are FAR reaching

buuhan is way more powerful than kid buu, even super buu is, its simply that kid buu is the most destructive.

All I have to say is, Asta has/had some good options available to him, and one way or another I win.

It’s time for the next debate. GT strongest form versus Dragon Ball super Goku strongest form

Bro you didn't have to make this video that long. You just repeated the same point over and over and over again, like the explanation could have ended with the idea being that anti-magic does not work like the quark negation from the my hero Accademia guy and maybe show one or two examples of how it is not the same.

I watched GT and I agree super is for beyond gt just watch super goku beat gt goku in dragon ball hero’s

My issue with Asta and his Anti-magic comes from the vs battles and equalization BS. They just be like well anti-magic is anti whatever power system in the verse so Asta solos since X person can’t use any of their attacks or their attacks won’t work on Asta. Half of the reasonings be so halfassed and ppl either make Anti-magic way too OP or completely useless. I feel like it should go somewhere in the middle but it def shouldn’t just be an anti whatever power system because most power systems aren’t made for someone to be able to cancel/nullify any and everything

Finally, justice for SSJ4.

Tabata drew Yami so damn fine in the last panel of 374

Crazy how nacht might of surpassed yami

The final chapter of MHA gives an answer to this question, a resounding no. Deku after becoming quirkless again for 8 years makes zero attempts to be a hero until he's given an iron man suit which lets him become one again. Remember that this is Deku after going through all the events of MHA so he's actually confident in himself and has trained his body to its peak. If he can't become one even after gaining all that confidence and strength, there's zero chance he would've ever made it past any hero courses entrance exam.

Am I the only one that doesn't understand why Henry doesn't get stronger while fighting a powerful enemy with insane mana??? Does anyone can help me understand.

Asta with Liebe, Yami with a Devil heart and form, Nacht with devils and Noelle with a pseudo devil. Black Bulls highkey the strongest squad in Black Clover and the squad wiith most hacks and devils in a squad.

I actually believe Lucius will turn Yuno into his final paladin- so there will be a fight between Asta and Yuno...then the final battle. Possible for Yuno to wield 3 magic types if he becomes a Paladin.

who would win? AF Goku Vs Xeno Goku

Super saiyan 5 is the strongest form in the entire dragon ball franchise including super

Great video do you still believe that Asta will be a partial devil

Who let bro cook

1:23 bro none of those frames even mention the "macrocosm" is being destroyed 😭 they all say universe, or "the world" in the top left frame. DBZ fans really ain't beating the accusations...

This manga is still goin ??? Lol

Actually, I was watching that show that devil is hard like he knows how to fight on bro

Idk I still don’t feel like asta is guaranteed to be wizard king, I think yuno might still be the better option and I think it would make some sense too

I think if we get a yami main character arc then it doesn’t make sense for it to be after the story it would make more sense to be a prequel, yami’s early years in clover kingdom

I don't think Asta is gonna become the Wizard King. We're most likely gonna end up with a Kakashi situation. Asta isn't ready to lead an entire nation.

Yami put the Dark in Dark Knight. Goodbye Bruce Wayne.

A while back Yosuga implied that Asta had an ability that worked really well with Ichika. I noticed that Asta didn't give Ichika any Anti-Magic. So theres a combo attack they've got that they haven't used yet. Once they're done with this battle Ichika is probably gonna go join Asta & Yuno along with Noelle.

Меня удивляют люди, которые считают, что Kid Buu слабее Buuhan. В манге он действительно назывался самой НЕПРИЯТНОЙ формой, но в аниме прямым текстом говорится, что это его СИЛЬНЕЙШАЯ форма, без всяких "но/или". А поскольку Торияма говорит, что аниме абсолютно такой же канон, то это нужно просто принять как данность.

sadly asta one shots deku very easily