Use These House Shot Techniques To Raise Your Average!

[@caseykilpatrick1]

I’d love to see a video that defines a lot of the colloquial terms bowlers use. I’m talking about words like friction, ball up, ball down, shim, carry, etc. Also, a video that breaks down the three phases of ball motion on a house shot would be awesome. For example, around when should I expect a ball to move from slide to roll to hook? Thanks for the great content, guys! I love the channel.

[@nordattack]

100%. Modern bowlers use "Jargon" which does not help new bowlers learn anything at all. Good teachers speak plainly and clearly. Reminds me of this quote: "Beware Jargon. It usually hides ignorance and carries little knowledge."

[@rah0210]

I can help with these terms if you want. Not sure if you're just trying to help others but you already know them haha.

[@monkeycircus509]

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[@nordattack]

@@rah0210 A full list of all Bowling Jargon terms and their real English definitions would be valuable.

[@goobytron2888]

True, I’ve been bowling for years and there is still jargon I don’t understand. If you can’t explain it to a 5 year old, you don’t understand it well enough.

[@brianmumm8779]

Great video! I would love to see a similar video showing how to effectively ball change on transition. What factors lead you to choose a certain ball? For example, when your ball is burning energy early and you can’t move left, what are the options? How about for lefties that need to move left to avoid the lay down area of righties? Thanks, keep up the great work.

[@jefferymorrison4617]

That’s the same thought I had. Could Kyle have switched to a weaker ball and played right?

[@Trblmkr07]

I've had nights where I take my normal shot and the only change I make is maybe 1 board left and get constant 200's. Other nights I've moved 7 or 8 boards to the left with my feet and 5 with my eyes and if I'm lucky I can get 170's or 180's. I can never figure out the lanes on what changes I need to make. Ball speed, different ball, more revs, less revs. UUggh. Love the work you guys put into these videos.

[@revdog3606]

I swear when i need specific advice, you guys drop a video about it. Good job

[@BradandKyleBowl]

We're here to help 💪🏼

[@paulconnell7575]

Getting closer to 200,000 subs

[@RewindCountry]

Incredible content. This is why this channel is so great. Especially at 16:41 when Brad talks about staying right and knowing how to adjust your speed instead of being forced left where you may be uncomfortable. You may not be able to do this on sport/PBA patterns as much, but you can definitely do it on a THS league. I NEVER move more than a couple boards further left than the third arrow as my target and don't need to because I control my speed. You have to work hard at this too so you don't "muscle" the ball and it doesn't interfere with your timing.

[@GorgonOfZola]

My local house shot transitions front to back with added length. Moving left is no man's land for everyone because the carry down tames the friction. Our best option is to move right, ball down and adjust speed and hand position. Miss room also vanishes. Game 3 is always a struggle to find a consistent line to the pocket.

[@JDTroutman1]

Awesome video guys! I’m a league bowler who loves to stand on 16-19 and roll up the 10 board. During league practice on freshly dressed lanes I strike, but by the 5th frame or so it’s usually too dry to continue down 10. I’ve been using that alignment since I first started bowling so it’s super uncomfortable when I move right; I’m a lefty. Anyway, I obviously need to practice so I feel comfortable opening the angles. Bottom line: This was the video I needed to see to improve. I’m going to start opening the angles until I get as comfortable as rolling up the 10 board. You two are great instructors and I watch all your videos. Can’t thank you enough for the video lessons!

[@johnsandyeggo4789]

A video on definitions, with a visual example would be fantastic!

[@BeardedBowler13]

Best video yet! Your explanation of your thoughts, strategies, and tactics was very informative. They way y'all talked through each shot was my favorite part. I would love to see this format move forward! It would be cool to have you guys do something similar for the sport and challenge patterns. I've been struggling on sport shot tournaments because I have to learn as I go. I look online for advice on certain patterns and try to figure out what to use, what surfaces, and lane play strategies. But the information is not very consistent. It would help to have something like a sport shot pattern library for us to reference if we need to roll something at a tournament. Like Cheetah, what type of equipment for various types of bowlers, what kind of surfaces would work, what area of the lane should you play (near the gutter for short, closer to the head for longer, breakpoint distances, etc.), how you would progress through the set, etcetera. I really appreciate all that you guys do for us in the community! Y'all have taught me so much, and I have then passed that on to other bowlers. Thank you!

[@laurelgugliuzza2018]

Love that you also give advice for those of us with lower rev rates. Slowing it down makes sense. What about backing up so the ball has more lane to travel? Viable?

[@boggs1963]

I pretty much asked the same question about moving back or moving up. Hopefully they can answer!

[@sirnathanjohn6196]

Right on time guys!!!! Thanks!!!!

[@luckyluke214]

Enjoyed the video, I would like to see one similar but where you transition down to a lower horsepower ball and play a straighter line if for some reason that inside line was not working out. Great job.

[@johndondlinger9943]

I've started incorporating your method of how to practice before league games into my routine, and it’s been working really well! My team has been performing much better lately. I’m a two-finger, no-thumb bowler, but I’ve been struggling with consistency. I think my accuracy is suffering because of slight changes in my palm position during the swing. Do you think I should drill a thumb hole to fix this? Honestly, when everything is clicking, I’m throwing games in the 210-240 range. But when it’s hot, I’m sweating, or it’s a tough game, I’ll sometimes drop to 155, and it feels like a grind just to get through. Any advice?

[@mannyreynoso7945]

A good video idea would be how do you guys handle transition. Do you ball down when you see something you don't like? Or do you chase it in and move left with the same ball?

[@i8910midnight]

Thanks for tthe tips! Keep it up guys!

[@APAKPLDLB]

Love that you’re throwing the Phaze AI. I’ve been struggling with it because I’m too far right but seeing where you guys are lined up is helpful.

[@BAWhites]

Great stuff guys, I'll use this for my High School bowling team to better explain how to adapt to the lane conditions and what transition is along with how to adapt to it.

[@onimoogamer1837]

great vid guys, sometimes we get to comfy when bowling in our house we're use to. This reminds us to stay humble.

[@StevenSprunger]

Love the advice. I wish you guys threw B7 brands though so I could get even more from the channel.

[@bobbp88]

I appreciate all the information you two put out. I always find application. I have grown so much as a bowler following your videos and getting coaching from you and Coach Daniel Puerto in the BnK, for two years. I hope to rejoin again before the Bnk open in the spring...

[@robertfrost2652]

Excellent advice I’ll definitely apply it next week at league 😊

[@CliftonDon74]

I throw urethane and see where it starts to roll down lane, then I throw a reactive ball at that spot to see how much it moves off that spot. I only get 5 minutes of practice, so I get 3-4 shots on each lane to get loose and to figure things out, so my next couple shots is to line up my corner pins. Good stuff guys!

[@joshuaberrelez1026]

Great content guys I’m bowling more sport shot tournaments and I would love individual videos on how to play some of the more common sport shots. For example) how to play Dragon, how to play bear, how to play cheetah, how to play PBA Weber and so on. I’m always looking for those videos when I go to a tournament and there are just so few of them.

[@VaJmac24]

Really been trying to do something about staying behind the ball more consistently.

[@cowboybebop0092]

Do you have any videos with Left-hand Bowlers? Thanks for the awesome videos. 👍🏾✌🏾

[@BUSTANUTELLA]

When should I make a hand/release adjustment vs a speed adjustment vs a foot adjustment? There are times where I felt I moved left too soon, or when I should have moved right and piped it.

[@ZF0317]

Loved the video. I can never seem to get lined up when bowling and I never understand what to look for.

[@chrisn812]

It would help me as well as other high average bowlers to describe your ball layouts used in videos like this. Layout design drastically affects how the ball will react on the lane and could alter alignment substantially.

[@tomsmith2546]

Great video on house shot evaluation.

[@jeffragland1838]

Love this view when you think out loud. I would love to hear when you determine you need to change balls. For example Brad mentioned starting with a stronger ball, when does he determine when he would want to ball down

[@ronaldvanengen1887]

As you fellas move left Do you get softer with your hand? If Your a right Hander and your playing say 4th or 5th arrow 🏹 From the right gutter what are yours eyes 👀 looking out downlane? A certain pin ie 6pin or a certain board down lane or using the Range finders the darker board for 3point targeting ❤🎉😊 Love the channel

[@gboltonatrail1099]

It would be helpful to have a video of what you are thinking and what move you make when you split (Like you did on this video), or leave 4 pin, 7 and or 10, once you have found pocket consistency and have been striking. Another great vid would help me/us to make a move to keep striking and explain your thoughts on whether to just accept the spares, score for that game or what you do to get back to striking, especially with the pressure you bowl under being pros. Maybe to loaded and to involved but any thoughts help confidence that helps execution.

[@shanehelm1570]

I would love to see you guys do videos like this every week or every other week, but on a harder patterns. After going through all the info, you two should bowl a game against each other. As usual, great vid. You guys are fun to watch.

[@joeanderson9267]

How do you know when it's better to switch balls vs moving left or right?

[@matthendzell8318]

Hey dudes, how about a video explaining some tips and strategies for when us house shot guys get "trapped out" or faced with a house shot with a serious "cliff". Some nights in league i know i can score better on a sport shot than fighting our 42 ft mens league pattern. A bowler like myself with about average speed and higher rev player ( like Prather) i find myself unable to move back right during transition and also can struggle trying to climb the hill back when i move way left without a drastic change in rotation, speed or core/cover combos. Any advice ? Maybe a video with some strategies you both have used? Thanks! Keep the content coming. See you in Detroit this spring.

[@jasonbear1336]

Nice video great tips! I just had a one on one coaching session with Mark Baker. He helped me a lot! Good to see great advice out there for advanced amateur bowlers like myself. Carry on!

[@Highway69theoriginal]

Excellent insight! This really helps!

[@PaulJoseph-n5u]

The advice about changing ball speed if you are comfortable on the right but do not have a high rev rate were very encouraging.

[@stvmann1966]

My target is always the same - the 2 board. I start with my left foot on the 10 board and move left 1 board at a time as the oil breaks down. I usually end the night with my left foot on the 13 board, but sometimes can end up on the 15 board.

[@chillinzx]

Love the videos and tips you guys provide, sometimes I have a hard time knowing early on if the ball I'm using is too laboring to make it strike when another ball of mine I can be sloppy with and strike more effortlessly.

[@dd101dd4]

My problem is the opposite. I'm strong at staying around 2nd arrow. I feel comfortable throwing between 2nd and 3rd arrow. But, I struggle with going to the third arrow and knowing where to throw it. Like what's the right line to what board.

[@Brainrot-Studios]

for me to fix this i did a ton of drills trying to strike at every arrow and playing weird lines

[@hysterheister0947]

I've stated doing this thing where I pick an arrow to start waking towards, then an arrow to throw my ball across. Forces my feet left to start, and can open my angles some.

[@ChrisRichter-vw4ee]

Walter Ray gets nose bleeds playing deep inside as well..

[@BrianSpinzig]

Great stuff guys. As a speed dominant bowler with a 250ish rev rate and 15-16 on the monitor my strategy has been to stay pretty close to 8-12 at the arrows and ball down as the lanes transition in league. Would be interested in hearing your opinions.

[@kenthanson]

same here. I'm just starting to think about ball speed, the center i bowl at just got updated and now we can see ball speed on each shot so its something ive been thinking about more this season.

[@BrianSpinzig]

@ ball speed on the monitor can be a little misleading depending on where you throw the ball all. For same speed off your hand a shot in the dry to the right will slow the ball down more than if you keep it in middle in the oil.

[@Chos3n314]

Great video!! I would love to see you guys do pro vs am offer lessons or something if am wins

[@ralphfamiglietta2072]

Great video--would love to see a Lefty included your mix. During league play I constantly have to move to roll through the Righty tracks.

[@osasfire3670]

Hi guys. Great video. Can you do a video about lining up on a sport shot?

[@flippperboy]

Great video and tips with strategies on lining up on a house shot. If you can find a way to teach and show transition and point out why balls over hook past the head pin, or why the ball had no energy going through the pins or why when you belly the ball while moving left on transition it is not reaching your break point, it can open alot of peoples eyes and not blame themselves on their physical game realize it is the way the environment was shaped. Just way too many variables. Thanks for sharing your insights. You guys are improving alot on explaining the game than when you first started.

[@chrisdeyneka358]

i like these house shot videos... i can relate :)

[@devinrichard_on]

Great video!!

[@surfacetension]

The other thing is that higher or lower ball speed can be achieved by holding the ball higher or lower in your stance, and starting the pushaway a hair earlier (if held higher) or later (if held lower) so your timing at the line isn't off.

[@carneios08]

My problem is that our house shot is pretty low volume and on wood lanes. Even my ~250 rev rate and ~14mph ball speed results in me having to play big angles. For example, my Xponent Pearl, which I use often to try and get the ball to read later, I'm still having to stand on 35 through 20 at the arrows to get it to hit the pocket. Playing straight is only feasible at this center with my plastic ball, which is both miserable for myself and others. The only alternative I have it to increase ball speed and play a weaker ball like my Hustle B-R-Y, but I lose consistency with higher ball speeds, which I don't like either.

[@ayo4325]

A video telling about all of the terminology you two use would be outstanding!

[@ScottyThompson-lt7wl]

Cool video talk tech bowling ball talk Brad and Kyle

[@rayvonehackshaw3399]

Do you have advice for bowling on more heavily used house shots, for example late in blocks at tournaments? I moved left recently in that situation and struck more consistently but left just a handful of splits that made it worse than when I was sticking right but leaving makeable spares.

[@dennismcclintock3154]

I just got back into bowling after 34 years out due to medical.now back in and love the game again more so. I'm just learning kinda on my own how to shape/hook/ curve the ball. I'm a down and in type player but can kinda shape the ball a lil bit.i wear a wrist positioner got use to using it. ? Idk but away your video is just awesome and much more interpretation for me. I have to go practice now thank you guys happy new year 🎉 May the strikes be with ya Denis Mac❤❤🎳🎳🎳👍🇺🇸

[@squidly2112]

I have been having a problem in league lately where during pre-game practice, on fresh, I get setup pretty good, hitting pocket, striking. Then league play begins and the first 1/2 of the first game I continue what I was doing through practice, sometimes having to move maybe 1 or 2 boards left, no big deal. Then all of a sudden, WHAM! .. my ball starts pushing down lane, sometimes washout. Like out of the blue it will start doing this. And I'm not the only one, some of the other players on my team or opposing team experience the same thing. So, I move right a few boards to try to counteract this situation, but I then just struggle to control the pocket. So then I try another ball, usually to a shinier ball to read the friction down lane more again. Sometimes that has worked and I'm back in it, but lately I end up chasing balls until I finally find something to work pretty well and I bowl a pretty good game the last game. Something changed at our bowling center the past couple of months (not just the weather) to cause this issue (have no idea what it is, oil, pattern, something). I have talked to dozens of people in our leagues and they say they have experienced the same type of thing. I am really stuck right now not having a clue as to what I need to do. Is it me? .. is it my ball (I resurface every few weeks with fresh box surface)? .. is it the lanes? .. what the heck is going on and what can I do to get ahead of this problem? .. Does anybody have a clue? .. I sure don't seem to. Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated. It's really getting frustrating, not just for me, but for several other people I bowl with. Thanks in advance and I hope everyone is getting a great start to their 2025 year!!! ❤❤

[@TonysMusic1974]

The type of shot Brad threw at 9:10 is one I can't do. It never EVER comes back for me. I've tried for years

[@pilotpete405]

You gotta keep your hand to the inside part of the ball and not collapse to the outside right at the release point. Also try and bend your elbow to the inside on your down swing Lots of amateurs have that problem. Obviously even a little bit will affect the ball motion. Yes it’s tough to master that and brads hand isn’t doing anything that crazy regarding excessive movement just a very slight turn at release, etc.

[@TonysMusic1974]

@@pilotpete405 I definitely need to get under the ball a little more. My average is 200 House and 170 sport. My problem is that I throw 17 mph with low to medium rev, so I don't give it time to come back if I wanted to throw that kind of shot. Whenever I try to throw slower, my mechanics go all over the place. Thanks for the reply.

[@lordsatan1473]

If you are using alot of hand great advice.

[@dv8davidsaporito766]

I'm rev dominant (15mph 400+rpm) and my local house puts out oil like it was on sale and about to expire and my ball reaction is terrible even with a good amount of surface on the ball... I usually put a 1k hand surface, should I take it lower? 500?

[@quintoncarter3311]

I appreciate you guy's information. What 3 or 4 coverstocks would you put in your bag for typical house shots?

[@bobbymoore8564]

How do you increase your ball speed without grabbing at the bowling ball? I am having real issues with when I want to increase my speed. I tend to grab the ball sometimes. A video about that would be helpful for me.

[@jimwalters7217]

Would love one of your clinics in the Seattle area... I'm sure i'm not the only one!

[@superblitz]

would you guys (depending on the lanes) go with a weaker ball playing straighter then moving left into something stronger to help with blending the heavier oil and other players tracks?

[@johnm.9982]

This probably one of the best videos of you guys explaining a house shot. I’m from Cali and bowl any local bowlero and it’s always gonna be a house shot. Not all the house shots are the same but almost similar. On 8:15, when Kyle said he would ball down, what would be a good suggestion from going down from Phaze AI? Would it go as low as like lightning blackout and the hustles or somewhere a little bit stronger with like .035+

[@hysterheister0947]

Ball down could be diff like you're taking about or cover. Going from solid to pearl.

[@danschweiger3700]

I bowl in a league where the avg bowler is around 195, but there are as many 2 handed high rev rate 230 bowlers as one handed 140 bowlers throwing straight plastic balls. I’m having trouble navigating when the oil cliffs really bad. Meaning: when I play it out right it hooks through the nose and when I try holding left up the middle it slides right through the break zone. Any help is appreciated. Love your channel and your insights. Thank you. Ps. Used to bowl in league with Tim Gruendler-now a pro. Shout out to Tim.

[@tamecadell]

Do you have any videos for one hand no thumb or is everything the same as thumb in?

[@user-GeeMonies]

Whoa wait, you guys are professionals? LOL great content as always.

[@boggs1963]

Thanks for the video. I have a lower Rev rate and tend to adjust my speed more than moving left as you referenced at the end of your video. Question: since I am typically not comfortable moving left, does it make sense to move my start point closer or farther from the foul line to get less or more hook? To be clear, I have a 4 step approach with minimal slide and typically stop about a 12" short of the foul line, so fouling is not a concern when moving my start point closer to the foul line. Any response would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and always enjoy your videos.

[@larryminiat5791]

Great information

[@ppdaazn69]

Can you guys make a video explaining what is going on when the ball is going through the pins and how to adjust if its not splitting 8-9?

[@wesleytombaugh8959]

I’m a higher speed high rev rate. I struggle reading the lane no matter where I stand or what ball I throw. Always miss transition then spend the rest of the night chasing.

[@HUFF-N-PUFF-2024]

For the house shot your shooting on right now in the video if you wanted to stay right and ball down what ball would be good for that shot? A weaker longer ball.

[@tijndegroodt4778]

so this was a video on how to keep hitting the pocket, but you also spoke about creating carry. How do you create carry?

[@josephwatrous281]

Good video. My question is what about moving front to back?

[@johnnyberlinn1663]

How to adjust for low revolution players I'm 61 13.5 speed 15 lb ball using ion pro pin up over ring finger right handed thanks! Love your content keep up the great information

[@joeymful]

would like to see video of how to bowl without a wrist support and what drills someone would need to use to do it.

[@ElvisElgarEllis]

For a house spot, how often do you move during a 3 game league night? And how far do you move overall? Just generally

[@rafabonati7757]

The method you guys use in this video work great with the number of shots taken in practice. However, in leagues that I play in, we only have 10 minutes of practice. I normally get only 3-4 shots and time is up. That’s only 2 shots on each lane. So when the lights come on, we are still going through the process for a few frames sometimes. I know that watching others can help. But most amateur bowlers don’t have a clue regarding making adjustment and trying different things, so their shots normally don’t really help. What would you suggest for getting lined up quickly in this scenario?

[@surfacetension]

Sometimes that little extra distance you need can be had by changing finger position and/or wrist pronation.

[@kstark321]

I'm glad I'm not the only person who plays straight up 10 12 to 8.

[@3alexx689]

Die normale Hausölung bei mir hat ca. 19ml Öl und eine Länge von 40fuß. Und das auf einem sehr aggressiven Bahnbelag. Nach 2 Spielen ist für mich kaum möglich da zu spielen weil es gibt einfach kein oil mehr. Und ich habe nur 400-410 Umdrehungen. Nur alle anderen haben so 200 und können da super spielen. Das ist der Grund warum ich Hausölungen überhaupt nicht mag.

[@bobleone1381]

As I watch a lot of pro's and bowlers in league who are much better than I, it seems that many of these bowlers tend (for right handers) to throw at the ten pin and see where the ball winds up in regards to the pocket. Then they adjust their feet right if they are not getting to the pocket or left if they are over hooking the pocket. Is this observation true or am I assuming something that they are really not doing? It looks like their first ball, off their hand, is heading right at the ten pin until it hit its break point.

[@SteveN-gh6dc]

Im trying to convince my friend to release it correctly. Do you have any drills with a football or softball?

[@tmeissen1218]

Here's a good question, when you get to the point that ball down is the answer, how much would you typically move to reline up?

[@DaronCowart]

For the straighter angles, on a house shot, after you have tried a stronger ball, wouldn't you try balling down or using a ball with a weaker core/coverstock in that same zone/area? My logic being, the weaker ball would go further down lane, before reacting to the friction/dryness that is in the outer parts of the house shot???

[@scottberkhous3379]

How do you handle having higher rev rate bowlers inside of you? In that case, your moving left into a part of the lane that is already tracked up.

[@JDShawBowling]

What is the distance, volume and taper of the best house shot pattern? In other words what pattern would sell the most balls.

[@malcolmlearner]

How best to change one's ball speed? What do I change about my approach?

[@paulwillett9942]

Why are you starting with a Stong Pearl with sharper angles off the friction instead of a slower ball like the Ion Max on the fresh?

[@donsoucek2228]

So if you're already starting that left on the fresh...do you keep moving further left as the lanes break down as you search for the oil?

[@BradandKyleBowl]

Left is law, keep on going!

[@garrettmeier7263]

when you are so far left in the beginning, where do you move into the transition phase since you are so far left already?

[@James-lk2mr]

What's the best way to lower ball speed? On our lanes I'm at around 17.5 to 18. Thanks for the videos

[@BradandKyleBowl]

Slower feet and a controlled backswing

[@DastardlyDave88]

So you hit your mark, the right release, everything felt good but you flat 10. Are you thinking about a feet move? Or eyes and feet? Or ball change? Or are you throwing a second shot in the same spot to see if the lanes have changed where that line works?

[@123Sblade123]

How do you apply this in a tournament, where you're skipping lanes every game and you only have 1 or 2 frames to guess and adjust quickly?? I know practice, practice, practice... But it'll be nice to hear yall talk ab it and explain..

[@AMaverickBrother]

So if someone is getting more hook than they want and are already throwing a pitch black... But every time I try for more ball speed I get less consistency. What are your recommendations for drills or exercises to increase ball speed while maintaining accuracy. For reference I'm a one handed no thumb bowler that usually targets 13.6mph entry and I'm only throwing 13 lbs to help prevent injury with the no thumb technique. This is something I've been working on...

[@ripvanrevs]

Can you stand farther back on the approach to get more ball speed? My speed went up 1.5 to 2 mph by doing that. Practice to get your timing correct. I bowl the same way.

[@AMaverickBrother]

@ripvanrevs heading there in a few minutes I'll give it a try.

[@AMaverickBrother]

Well I tried it and it kinda threw my timing off a bit... I went from between the dots to the back dots. But it did show promise. Need to try some more.

[@elpaho7711]

Can you make a video how to play with reactive balls on top of urethane or after a few games played by urethane?

[@KyleH-b1k]

How do you handle carry down?

[@proflowery30]

How do I throw slower? While I know it’s separate my mind links speed with rev rate and therefore it’s difficult for me to slow down.

[@nordattack]

Any recommendations for ultra low rev (90 rpms) low ball speed (10 mph) Senior bowlers?

[@septembertwenty-nine9989]

QUESTION: Could you have balled down rather than move left early in the first game in order to avoid running out of move room by the third game?

[@TerryBollea1]

The kid says you can play 1-3 arrows, yet the picture of the video says that playing those arrows equals garbage. Nice job guys!!!!