Why is your paint crazing?

[@segasaturn2301]

I've 'restored' an old toolbox from 1931 and the crazed paint (imo) looks quite neat on it. Gives it that used industrial look from that time.

[@MarkMash17]

I put a primer and let it dry for two days.... Then put a glossy coat on and instantly it started cracking... Like within 1 minute.... So weird.

[@maxa3221]

That just has to be chemicals that don't like eachother and not a curing problem like many people say

[@Monkeygroover]

Maybe your primer was a physical drying one (no rchemical reaction, and in theory the paint is reversible) If the topcoat bears the same solvent, it will start to dissolve your primer and can cause cracks too.

[@MarkMash17]

Think it was too cold during application. Was outside in a cold night so shriveled/cracked

[@alexanderking3971]

I've had this happen the first time I painted my motorcycle tank. I tried to fix it by sanding everything down and starting from scratch along with 3 plastic pieces. Everything went great. Plastics turned out perfect but the same thing happened with the tank... I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.

[@BradAngove]

Sometimes its just a matter of how heavy the coats are going on.

[@alexanderking3971]

@@BradAngove sanded everything out last night, was able to get it all out, praise God. Finished up with a compound and polish. Looking great. Thanks so much for all your tips via all these videos. Helped me out a lot bringing this '94 Magna back to life. Keep up the great work. God bless.

[@joshaulis8326]

@@alexanderking3971 watch out for older bikes and cars, the factory paints used are often times not compatible with new painting processes, most of the time you need to take it right down to bare metal so the paint doesn’t have a reaction. If you want to know beforehand, always take an acetone rag and rub down the surface and see if the paint rubs off on the rag, or pour a small amount onto your work piece and see how the paint reacts. That will tell you a lot.

[@rodneywright4344]

I had a really bad experience with paint cracking while using my airless sprayer and couldn't understand why. This video helped a lot.

[@BradAngove]

Glad I could help

[@nicholasquintero1080]

You can guarantee it's going to happen if you spray your clear on too quickly. You spray your base coat and either spray the clear when it's touch dry (recommended time), or when it's fully dry (2-3 full days later). Short cutting the drive time to spray clear will get you cracking 100% of the time.

[@Titans2138]

What kind of paint are you talking about? I’ve never heard of waiting 2-3 days but I’m mostly familiar with automotive paint. The stuff I use you’re supposed to wait 30 minutes after the last coat of base and the spray clear. If you waited 2-3 days you’d have to scuff and then spray a coat of base again and then wait 30 minutes and clear. That’s how you get a good chemical bond instead of just a mechanical bond.

[@kevinbrett4274]

Thanks, You answered my question

[@dannyseely7100]

I just got finished painting my guitar and i put the clear coat on when i turned away for about 5 sec I started to notice some crack and shrivel up . I had chills running up and down my back but it only happened on a certain color. I wanted to do a EVH frankenstrat look to my guitar and the only thing that was affects by this was the red everything else was fine. I probably did not dry for long enough, too bad I have to take off all the red though :(.

[@spartacussmith7070]

Just happened to me. Crazy custom paint job on a PS2 as a birthday present for my dad, did everything right and the very first layer of clear reacted and ruined the entire paintjob. Never use Rustoleum American Accents 2X Clear smh

[@TheBridgetTube]

Thank you! I didn't wait long enough for my recoat time before applying my top coat (it had been about 18 hrs). This explained my issue.

[@stacyzemlo6465]

Trying to figure out why paint is cracking for a customer I sold paint to which happens to be a sister company I have my suspicions but will be looking into it further on Monday once I gather all of the facts. Things that I already know. 1. Small office building has humidity issues. 2. Found mold behind walls with wallpaper. 3. They had to replace most of the drywall. 4. Was painted with a primer then painted with a professional grade paint and had to apply several coats. 5. One year later, walls are showing up with fading when someone rubs it. Also has started the cracking. 6. Supplying new paint and suggesting to prime with Kills2. 7. Complaints already about how sample colors look yellow in one room and tan in another. Just wondering if it’s due to humidity still in the office and what other questions I should be asking. Thank you for your video. It was helpful!

[@BradAngove]

Is the temperature there fairly stable? How long did they wait between primer and paint? Need to make sure the primer and paint were compatible of course.

[@romanengelbrecht6717]

i catch myself watching your videos sometimes and i forget to drop a like and i legit get upset with myself cuz i really take the info you give seriously. I would just imagine it must feel quite good to know that all the way out in South Africa someone is using your advice. Very happy with the content on this channel

[@BradAngove]

Thank you Roman. I’m glad your finding my videos useful.

[@makeshiftmuse251]

I was getting cocky with a huge trailer I've been painting outside, in December, in Florida, parked with one side southward and one northward. I painted the tail and the south side with zero issues (first real paint job I've done other than interior). Got the nose started and the north side. North side had a few areas that were "crazing". After some research and consideration on the specific spots that this was occurring, I'm thinking it's because they're spots that are relatively cold (relative to the rest of the trailer, which 68-75° Florida "winter" isn't cold) and therefore dry significantly slower. Thanks for the video and the reminder to not get cocky, slow down between coats.

[@BradAngove]

Glad you seem to have gotten to the bottom of the issue.

[@StephenGarcia-p6x]

Thanks brother! Every time I run into a situation you have humble answers. I appreciate you.

[@BradAngove]

Thanks man. I’m glad be able to make myself useful.

[@mikevincent2811]

I sprayed all my cabinet doors. The existing paint is about six years old. I cleaned the dirt and grease off with damp rag and dishsoap. Then I scuffed the gloss paint with 320 grit and then vacuumed the dust and wiped with a damp rag. After it was thoroughly dry, I sprayed with Rust-Oleum Painters Touch 2XX canned spray paint. On one of the doors, I got distracted and it was still a little damp in spots. Those spots crackled immediately. After it dried for a day, I sanded the crackle down smooth and repainted. It cracked in the same spots and a few more. What can I do? Do I need to strip it down to bare wood?

[@BradAngove]

Not necessarily. Let it dry for about a week somewhere warm and dry. Then sand smooth and clean. Then, when you go to re-spray, make your first two coats just very very light mist coats. That will mean less solvent hitting the surface to cause a reaction. Then you can do one more fluid coat.

[@NeverMetTheGuy]

Is anybody else saying "oops" after pretty much every reason?

[@BradAngove]

... yeah that’ll happen.

[@charlesdeerman2662]

Yeah brother I think you're right on about all of it I am working with fiberglass resin first thing and it's August and I'm working in the heat and layering problems for me thank you

[@davidkeetz]

the crazing due to temp fluctuation is easy to replicate if you spray inside of a garage during cold weather outside. If you're a garage that is warmed up to 65 degrees and it's under 35 degrees outside and then you open the garage door to spray, blow the fumes out and then close the door, that temperature change is usually fast enough to cause the paint surface to crackle up within 10 minutes or so.

[@BradAngove]

Yeah, that’s never fun.

[@luisbarrera1099]

Thank you. I appreciate your judgement

[@BradAngove]

My judgement?

[@makolite]

if your paint is cracking (for acrylic paint I used crafters acrylics from the dollar store) Most likely there's to much layers or the paints drying crackly, USE A BIT OF WATER I did and the cracking stopped!

[@shinyredguitar]

Good information, great job... I would call aged laquer "crazing"... I would call Lacquer over cheap enamel "wrinkling" "peeling" or "stripping" & I would call too much paint, solvent speed issues or temperature issues "cracking", "splitting" or "crackle". But the term "crazing" to me I would reserve for old paint jobs usually Nitrocellulose Lacquer, that get brittle & crack over a long period of time, humidity issues or sun exposure... maybe decades. Lacquer can be shot and adhere on urethanes & even some enamel if they are well sanded, shot with a quality adhesion promoter like 222s (formerly Dupont, now Axalta) Sometimes you need to spray the first coats of Lacquer dry over the 222s if the enamel is of low quality catalyst. This will help avoid "wrinkling" the cheaper enamels. A quality "sandwiched" airbrushed lacquer artwork (Urethane/222s/lacquer/Urethane (Imron) finish can last for 40 years in the Florida sun with no crazing or pealing.... Guitars often have "crazing" when they were painted in nitro and get old. I went back to 100% Polished Nitro Lacquer on all my guitars due to the exceptional sound of Nitro. Finally one more source of wrinkling is laquer shot too wet with slow thinner or retarder that is then cleared in urethane before the solvent leaves the lacquer... for this reason it is advisable to use fast thinner with no retarders (wash thinner) to spray lacquer if it is intended to be cleared in urethane. Blushing due to moisture and fast thinner is not an issue if the lacquer is to be clear with urethane just sand with 500 and clear it. Everybody can call me out now "OLD SCHOOL"? :)

[@BradAngove]

I believe the industry term for the cracking in aged lacquer is “checking” rather than crazing.

[@MF-le7fp]

Just painted a plastic dust buster housing with Rust-Oleum American Accents Gloss Orange (Paint + Primer). Prepped it with1500, then 2000 grit paper. Cleaned it with soapy water in a spray bottle. Then rinsed it with distilled water from a spray bottle. Dried it with lint free blue shop towels. And finally sprayed it down with 70% Isopropyl alcohol, and dried that with a blue shop towel. Shook the new can of paint for a full minute, then sprayed the piece with a light dusting coat. This paint dries FAST. Shot the second coat 10 mins later, which built into a gorgeous orange gloss, with ZERO orange peel, wrinkles, or dusting. It was PERFECT. Shot it outside in direct sunshine, at 84° F, and 48% humidity, per my gauges, with almost no wind speed. The only thing I had to worry about was that errant A-hole flying insect that inevitably decides he's seeing a "huge orange flower." As luck would have it, he never showed. The piece was pristine. And I should have taken that as a sign, and stopped right there. Afterall, it appeared to have a clear coat on it already. But NOPE, I HAD to "protect" this beautiful paint job with a can of 2X Gloss Clear, from the same line (Rust-Oleum American Accents). After 45 mins of dry time, I "sanded down the glossy surfaces", per the can of Clear's instructions, with the distilled water spray, and a 3000 grit paper. Gloss now gone, I dried it with a blue towel, walked it out, and set it in the sun to air dry an additional 5 mins. Went out after shaking the Clear for a full min, and started the same process as the paint job (2 coat system), except this initial coat wasn't a "dust" coat. It wasn't sag worthy either. But enough to go on as a "full gloss" coat. Everything went swimmingly for oh, about the first 25-30 seconds. Then, as if by magic, the entire job began this amazing (albeit HORRIFYING), "wrinkle crinkle" transformation that would make the worst orange peel one could imagine look perfectly acceptable by comparison. And now I'm "here", with the rest of the neer do well "painter" class....crying yall a river. 😂 So, thanks for the insight. After watching this, I'm now thinking one of three things happened. The "gloss" (obvious, NOW 😂) component of the "GLOSS Real Orange" paint, is a clear "built into" the paint. Duh. So, not only is a clear coat not required, but even if seemingly "sanded off", the clear base solvents were still present. So, BAD REACTION. Another possibility may be "something" unseen, but present in the blue shop towels that was left behind during the wipe downs. Which didnt effect the paint going onto the plastic. But once left on the sanded paint surface, was a disaster waiting to happen. Then there was the 5 min sun drying of the piece. Did the UV in the sunlight somehow act as a negative catalyst on the paint surface, to cause the reaction? Regardless, I f'd it up. I think I'll just strip it, and reshoot it with only the gloss paint. And if you've made it this far, sorry for the sad sappy sob story whiney bitch novel I'm about to post. 😬

[@TheIVJackal]

I've read stories like yours far too often, there's a ton if you read the reviews on the paint! Sorry it happened to you. I'm not entirely sure what causes the cracking... In my experience, shooting the clear as soon as you can after gloss allows for a better bond. This is obviously not possible if you're doing any sort of wet-sanding, but I haven't always needed to. Anyways, if you find a solution, be sure to share it here!

[@TenForTheBigGuy.4381]

So my experience with this is TBE paint isn't cured. You have to wait 24 hours or longer for all chemicals to come out. Some paints require clear be applied minutes after. If you wait too long but not long enough "24hr" them it cracks.

[@MF-le7fp]

@@TenForTheBigGuy.4381 👍

[@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259]

​@@TenForTheBigGuy.4381 ^ This, based on what happened to me. Now I'm afraid to apply clear...

[@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259]

​@@TenForTheBigGuy.4381 ^ This, based on what happened to me. Now I'm afraid to apply clear...

[@grein545]

I was using lacquer thinner to even out some touch up paint. I had put a piece of tape to mark the area. I think I went a little overboard with the thinner. The tape seems to have absorbed some of the thinner when I lifted the tape, there is a small area of the clearcoat that appears to have slightly“raised” “lifted” or “expanded” it’s only visible against the light. I’m concerned that the thinner penetrated into the there might be some crazing in that area later on. It’s a factory finish. What do you think?

[@BradAngove]

What kind of paint is the factory finish?

[@grein545]

@@BradAngove Plain white, BMW 3 years old. I suspect if there’s a problem there, it might be more visible if it was a different colour. I don’t see a hint of change or discolouration on the white itself. Funny thing is the “raised” area is further away from where the tape starts absorbing the thinner. You would figure an oddity would appear where the tape is most saturated by the thinner but the inner area of saturation looks fine. It’s barely visible anyways, it could almost blend in with the orange peel. It’s not an issue, just concerned if something will happen long term.

[@huey8431]

Thank you for the explanation of paint crazing. I totally screwed up my first paint job where I had bubbling on the hood and top of my car and shrinkage along the edges of where I painted. It has scared me to not repaint the car. I want to overcome this huge failure but I am driven to learn how to paint better. Should I wait at least a day after primer and a day after base coat before I do a clear coat just in case to avoid trapping solvent? I appreciate any and all advice in advance. Thank you kindly!

[@BradAngove]

What kind of paint are you using?

[@huey8431]

@@BradAngove I used a 2k paint and a 2k primer

[@BradAngove]

Yeah I’d give it a day or two to be safe.

[@jenniferlumbra3853]

Thank you for these explanations. I recently started crafting and EVERYTHING I have spray painted this crazing has happened and I have ended up throwing away my projects. I think I am about done with crafting because I am so frustrated. It is expensive to buy the project, the paint, etc. just to end up throwing it away. Then to have all these spray cans of paint left over. So frustrating!!

[@BradAngove]

You can always sand back and try again with lighter coats.

[@TheGhostGuitars]

@@BradAngove You mentioned that ye might make a set of videos wherein ye try do two sets one deliberately causing crazing and the other to avoid crazing. Then compare/contrast the two. Have ye perchance done this yet? I'm interested in attempting to purposely create mild crazing to create the effect of an old guitar that has mild crazing in an otherwise intact paint job. I would like see how ye do it. On a related vein, I just acquired an old vintage Matsumoto Teisco guitar that has mostly vertical cracks in the red finish so it looks like the paint it trying to split itself into vertical strips. I actually liked the look. Is there a way to reseal the finish and at the same time retain that cracked look? Would spraycan clear over the whole thing work?

[@BradAngove]

What you’re looking for is probably checking rather than crazing. It’s something nitrocellulose lacquer does when it shrinks. Sometimes it happens over time, but you can also speed up the process by freezing it after you spray it.

[@TheGhostGuitars]

@@BradAngove Ok, I'll try that on a test piece first. Would that process also work on enamels and acrylics too?

[@BradAngove]

No, they don’t do that.

[@mulehead2229]

I'm working on a project that I hope will eventually turn out great, but painting the guitar body has caused me endless headaches although it has also taught me a lot because of the mistakes I've made. First of all, before I even thought about painting I did a "mock up" matching the body and neck (with the original electronics) and the tone and playability were excellent, so I knew they were a good match. I disassembled everything and started with the body which had considerable gashes, holes, and other damage. It is made of mahogany, which I soon discovered was a very pourous wood. My first mistake was to completely sand off the existing finish before filling in all the damage. This is where I realized that I should have left the original finish on. If I had done that, I wouldn't have had to spray so many coats of primer (which of course didn't work). I finally decided to use a gloss protective enamel which seemed to finally start giving me a clear coat. My next mistake was to use too much of it. I found that it wouldn't dry. I tried baking it in the oven and leaving it out all day in the summer sun for over a month and the over runs were still not dry. Out of frustration, I put it away for a couple of months while I started learning to use my paint guns. Anyhow, when I got it back out and all the paint was finally dry. I started hand sanding it with some 500 grit paper, but the over runs were so thick that I used an electric sander with 200 grit paper just to try and get a flat finish. That removed most of the "crazing", so I started hand sanding with a higher grit paper but I still can't get a lot of the "rippling" out without sanding it almost back to the bare wood. As I mentioned before, I've learned a lot about what not to do but now I have a deliema. Should I keep sanding until all the mistakes are gone and start over or try and salvage what I started? I have a friend with a shop which is heated now that the weather is cooler, so that's not a problem. I also know a guy who owns an auto body shop and I'm almost to the point of frustration that I am considering taking it there and letting him finish the whole job. I really want to do this myself but on the other hand, I want to get the paint job done so I can put the guitar together (I've had all the new electronics and other hardware for months) and start playing it. If I do decide to paint and finish it (polyurethane) myself, how do you suggest I do this. I am an advanced player with many years of experience, but I'm still a novice at painting. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[@BradAngove]

+Mulehead now that you’ve built a finish on there, everything should be sealed up. I would sand it back flat using a sanding block, and re-finish it. This time use light coats. 3 coats of colour 15 minutes apart. Let it dry for 3 days. Sand smooth at 800 grit. Then repeat with clear coat, twice (6 coats total. For the drying, let that happen inside. Never put drying paint in direct sunlight. Let those final coats dry for 2 weeks, then you should be able to sand and polish. I’d give it another week or two after that before putting hardware on ideally.

[@firemanpenney]

This is helpful thanks, a am painting my car, and saw this on my newly finished hood... after all the cut and buff... didnt know what yhe hell happened. And when i push on the hood, i can hear it crackle... totally new experience for me

[@BradAngove]

Sorry to hear that

[@rmatt498]

I painted a pickguard and back cover and it crazed over night cause it got really cold (thanks Wisconsin for being 60 degrees one day and 38 the next) thankfully it didn't happen to the guitar body and it looks cool on them. Which is great since you will not be physically touching (at least not aggressively like where you may rest your wrist on your picking arm) so it can keep the craised look

[@BradAngove]

Did you use adhesion promoter?

[@jacksplace]

thanks Brad my question is Im doing a old Vw bus cheap with rattle cans of Tremclade white when is it safe and what do you recommend for a clear over it

[@BradAngove]

I would think tremclad has a compatible clear coat, but I’m not sure on the timing.

[@jillsanderson3730]

I have cracking or what looks more like shrinking of a stain under a clear laquor top coat. I believe the painter probably put to much stain on without letting it dry properly. Is there anyway to cover without stripping? Its everywhere. Can we use shellac primer over then use stain over that?

[@BradAngove]

Are you still looking for a stained look finish?

[@thesetruths1404]

I only use the same brand paints and confirm the types are compatible with manufacturer. Rust-Oleum staff told me that if I sand any paint that is not fully cured that I should wait 48 hours to rcoat with different color or type of top coats (such as color on top of primer, or clear on top of color). They said sanding opens up pores in uncured paint that must be allowed to dry for 48 hours before adding new colors or types on top. Have you run into problems by not doing this?

[@BradAngove]

I haven’t, but I know some people have.

[@MasterArmedforces]

itd be great to hear something about "resolving" it. Do I have to sand it down and re-start or can I lacquer remover/thinner the crazled paint down with a rag?

[@BradAngove]

I would sand until it’s smooth and go from there.

[@MasterArmedforces]

@@BradAngove Yeah I tried the thinner but it didnt do anything so I went to 400 wet sand option till the crackle went away & resprayed it to match the other areas. thks.

[@nilsen166422]

I've been working on a travel trailer, aluminum siding - white... I've fixed and have gone thru 3 cans already, various spots...but I'm doing the front. 4 spots I'm getting cracking after 1 can....it was days later dried...temp 56-65'f I thought it was the new can....I really sanded and cleaned it again with a different can (same automotive rustolum gloss white) did it again in the same area too

[@BradAngove]

Cracking isn’t caused by old cans, it’s caused by paint shrinking. This can occur from temperature fluctuations, or if you’re layering too much too quickly.

[@draithedragonking1376]

I tried prime ring my guitar I did the primer two days ago. I left the primer to dry a day when I looked the next morning there was alittle bit of cracks in the primer. Looking on the internet I searched what kind of grit to use 220 popped up. Used the 220 sanded the primer where the cracks were. I took a rag and cleaned off the dust today I decided to do a second coat. Within 20-30 seconds the second coat of primer cracked the whole primer on the back of the guitar. I don’t know what to do.... any ideas brad?

[@BradAngove]

Sounds like the primer went on too heavy initially. May not have dried properly. Then when it shrinks it all cracks up like that.

[@theman_10]

Thanks for sharing..my plastic bumper just did that...I'm painting in a garage temp inside around 80s, alittle humid...I feel mine was a chemical reaction...with all the different layers I sprayed with like you said...it's disappointing

[@BradAngove]

Sorry to hear that. Hopefully you can fix it.

[@bikolar1379]

Thanx Brad!!! You are now my go to guy for painting issues!! U ROCK!

[@BradAngove]

Thanks Kathy. Glad I could help.

[@pryttyc]

Hi, Idk if your going to answer this or not asap, I'm painting my bed room like right now, I bought Caliwal paint and started painting my room, the paint was awful to me very watery and didn't look right to me after multi coats , so i went out and bought some Behr home depot paint, the paint started to do some some crazy crap as I'm painting over it. So now my smooth walls look like ugg. But I'm doing this by myself and it's a lot of work, so I waited like two weeks to repaint over that mess, I mean It looks very textured now.. I'm on my way to go buy a one coat paint at home depot to see if that will help....I regret buying the Caliwel paint... and that paint is expensive. I have no other options I can't tear down my sheet rock and start all over. I do not even know how to do that. Plus I spent so much money on paint already and my bedroom still not done.🤦‍♀️ IDK what to do😫😭

[@BradAngove]

The typical fix for that would be to get one of those large sanding blocks that drywallers use and sand that texture off before moving on. Just adding more paint to it won't remove the texture.

[@normbarrows]

I accidently got that effect on a pickup cover once. I believe it was reaction related but wasn't sure exactly what paints I'd used. I must have tried a dozen different colors of paint for the hardware on that build. I've been wanting to reproduce the effect for a long time now. Based on this video, I suspect it was lacquer followed by enamel, followed by more lacquer. Do you kbnow of a combination of paints that will cause cracking, yet leaves a durable finish?

[@BradAngove]

No this kind of cracking. It’s indicative of a paint failure. There are crackle finishes though that are durable. I have a video on those.

[@normbarrows]

@@BradAngove Thanks for the tip - you're my goto for paint guitar finishes. I'll check out your vid on crackle. I tried some tests with crackle, but it was cheap stuff designed for metal valve covers and such - not impressive on wood.

[@sewterie]

Thanks. This was helpful. I was thinking the issue I am having is the temperature. Could be room temperature. Could be the object is too cold. Gave me some things to think about. Thanks.

[@BradAngove]

Glad I could hopefully help.

[@joycehennig9099]

I spray painted an interior/exterior Premium paint +primer Gloss enamel on top of a chair that has some paint on it but needed touch up and was going to repaint the whole thing and it immediately started crazing. I'm sure it was a chemical reaction. I believe I will have to sand all of those areas and repaint . How do I know what what kind of paint to use.

[@BradAngove]

You could just sand all of the old paint off and use whatever you want essentially. Otherwise, you may want to try just sanding the crazing to get everything smooth and then adding a very thin coat of the same paint to see if that resolves the issue.

[@larryvercher9809]

I painted my alloy wheels with VHT Argent silver one week ago. Can I put VHT clear coat now without re spraying another base coat?

[@BradAngove]

I’m not sure; what does it say on the cans?

[@15Kilo]

Had to paint the roof around the sunroof. Yesterday it looked great. I tried fixing some fisheyes and put on another coat. From there it went south. Now I have to sand it down and start all over. But it is significantly colder today than it was 2 days ago. I think that’s where the crazing was coming from. Thanks for the info!

[@ivancedillo8]

America First Did u sand it down to bare metal? If yes what grit u used?

[@15Kilo]

POWERTECH no the piece that goes around the sunroof is actually thick plastic. So I was as gentle as I could be

[@chucknorriss5452]

Just as I suspected.. This video confirmed that it wasn't just me going nuts. (liked this video btw). Story: Ran into this problem for the first time in my life today. I got gloss spray paint for my son's bike and painted it, and it came out AMAZING... THEN..... I decided to lock it all in with a clear gloss for a clear coat kinda finish. (both were enamel). Bottom line, I have to run and get fine grit sand paper and repaint out all the cracks. I think I'll let him ride it for about a week before I attempt the clear coat.. Let the actual paint bake and cure for a while. 👍🏼

[@BradAngove]

Damn. Yeah, you’ll want to let it settle and cure for a bit before trying to fix it.

[@chucknorriss5452]

@@BradAngove I've painted car parts and guitars and furniture and came out flawless, this caught me completely by surprise. Hence me stumbling onto this video. Haha

[@kistler140]

You were absolutely correct regarding your chemical analysis. I was using two different brands of paint; Rust Oleum and Krylon. Both were called Appliance Epoxy. I had completed my project with the RO and ran out, but there were a few holidays. I began touch up with the K and spiderwebs or crazing came out all over, but not everywhere. It reminds me of that chemical that removes paint from cars; it just seems to break the bond.

[@kistler140]

I think I bought the RO at Walmart. The K I bought at Lowes.

[@BradAngove]

Damn. Sorry to hear that happened.

[@kevinbrett4274]

I sprayed a new bellypan which came up A1, I put it on the bike a few months later I noticed crazing on one side, when fitting the pan I had to force to fit, would the slight bending of the pan cause the crazing

[@BradAngove]

Do they get hot?

[@jennahygelund2405]

Thank You Brad. This video was very helpful to me. I do acrylic pouring, and love to experiment. You have answered many questions that I had. Excellent!!!

[@BradAngove]

Glad I could help. Those thick pour on finishes are prone to this sort of issue.

[@dadstablet6156]

Thanks Good food for preventative measures. (Hind sight and all, UHG) I know squat about painting . . . GOT these y block valve covers, put on a good coat of tremclad hi heat gloss black (which by the way is a medium gloss at the most, maybe ) but for these covers I wanted hi gloss and heat resistance. So I sprayed the heat paint on bear metal wiped clean first w acetone then within 10 minutes sprayed tremclad hi gloss normal paint. Both good layers. Was really glossy and looked great. A day later I noticed at the edge of the flanges a tiny glimmer of steal I missed painting, so I sprayed these edges and a few spots on the covers again. Now I have alligator skin texture valve covers. I'm going to leave paint on and allow it to thoroughly dry like for a few warm days or more, sand with fine paper and try again. I'm guessing the coats were thick and haven't thoroughly dried enough. (Or the hi heat paint is another chemical).

[@BradAngove]

I don’t really have any experience with high heat paint, but those recoat times do sound problematic especially for relatively wet coats.

[@ronjon5386]

I sprayed candy paint over silver paint and a week later I’m seeming lines in the paint. I wonder if it was because I used a spray can primer. Also it was a bit cooler in temp.

[@BradAngove]

Certainly could be a temperature thing. When it’s a reaction between paint types the effect is usually pretty dramatic.

[@ilcarote]

Hi Brad, really appreciate your videos. I'm painting a bike frame (aluminium + montana gold) and just sprayed my 2nd coat of SprayMax 2K matte. 1st layer came out nicely, cured 24 h and lightly sanded with 800. 2nd spraying crazed/crackeled in parts. I suspect too cold & humid + too thick of a coat... can this be saved? Can I - let it dry, sand down the bad topcoat and give it another go with a fresh can of that expensive 2K? Cheers

[@BradAngove]

Yes, that’s how you would go about fixing that.

[@MasterArmedforces]

Hi, Ive never heard of that 2K paint till just now & I found it on Amazon. Whats special about it? Did you say you sanded (wet?) between coats w/800? Were you able to resolve the crackling? Ive just painted a portion of my truck w/Rustoleum Professional Gloss White & had the 1st coat come out gr8, but the 2nd coat (55hrs later) crackled in 1 spot. Thanks.

[@BradAngove]

Have a look at my video on how to get a professional looking clear coat with spray cans.

[@LaurenEJ]

Excellent information. I was experiencing this on one of my jobs tonight and was just baffled by it. But I think now I understand exactly what the issue was. Thank you. Very helpful 👍

[@BradAngove]

Glad I could help

[@LaurenEJ]

@@BradAngove yes, you really did. 🤗 Thank you

[@ronnolvn3880]

I put clear coat on my headlight after I wet sanded it. I cleaned the headlight before applying the clear coat and let it dry. I sprayed the clear coat And it completely started cracking or shrinking like you said. How would I fix this

[@BradAngove]

Use adhesion promoter, make sure your clear is compatible with plastic, and apply a couple light coats at the start.

[@ronnolvn3880]

@@BradAngove, I ended up wet sanding the clear coat off and buffed the headlights with the compound given in the 3m kit, then I sprayed 2 coats of meguiars headlight coating and it's looking normal again

[@krizm]

I got crazing/ cracks on my post catalytic lacquer on top of a furniture piece that had shellac and paint but only on the top which is weird - I also got it with paint when I painted over lacquer

[@BradAngove]

Did you lacquer it outdoors in direct sunlight?

[@TheSoundtec]

Love to see how to repair it or shall i say redo it.

[@iamjustaservant8218]

yeah..just talk talk talk not even a picture

[@BradAngove]

Ya, this video was about how to avoid it. To repair you need to sand back smooth, clean, make sure it’s fully dry, and then recoat.

[@meadish]

I am getting long, but very fine, cracks in the paint on just one side of the guitar (the back) - all basically running in the direction of the grain. Started with a raw basswood body - sanded up to 320 in stages, after that sealer with sanding, then wood filler with sanding, automotive acrylic primer with sanding, base coat of acrylic lacquer pearl gold followed by top coat of acrylic lacquer candy red. Let it dry for 3 weeks (it's been hot and humid here, but I timed the actual spraying session to a sunny day with a bit less than 60% humidity). After the first week it looked ok bar the little hole from a piece of dust I tried to remove, but now on the back of the guitar there are a few long fine cracks that show when you look at it from an angle in the right light. Would it be enough to sand away the red candy layer and re-apply gold + red candy, or should I go further down than that?

[@BradAngove]

You only need to sand through whatever has cracked. It must have shrunk.

[@cherkovskystrokenov]

Wow, you even have a video on this? Anyways, I commented the other day about painting my acoustic. A matte black base with pearlescent floral designs all over. After throwing on the second clear coat, this crazing began to appear literally everywhere. It's completely ruined and all of that meticulous work has been wasted. But it does make me feel a lot better to know that I'm not the only one who's had to experience this disappointment. Thank you for the informative video! I'll be sure to put this knowledge to use now. It's not the first time I've had to learn from my mistakes Edit: I think my issue is that I might have been too generous with the clear coat, which caused the shrinking and crazing.

[@BradAngove]

Yes this is unfortunately a problem that arises for a lot of people.

[@danthemansrepreviews5644]

I got a aluminum speaker cone to a perfect black mirror finish....waited 18 hours and applied a clearcoat both rustoleum, and pretty much instantly it started crazing....I had used it before and rhis never happened...ever figure it out? Cause this didn't really help me, the speed of it happening has me convinced it was some sort of reaction...whole morning wasted 😞

[@tonyborja7883]

Can not dried up wax and grease remover cause this as well? I usually wax and grease remove the panel before spraying but I’m not sure if I am not letting it dry and that can be my problem.

[@BradAngove]

That could be the issue as well, yes.

[@shannonhawkins5739]

I tried so many different techniques painting and sanding my guitar. But no matter how many coats I put on or how long I let it dry or how rough or how smooth it is, as soon as I go to spray on the clear coat it cracks within seconds. Then I have to let it dry and sand it back down and start over. I’m using the same brand and type of clear coat as paint and I have no idea what I’m doing wrong.

[@JJ15T]

This is why I sub.... you are quick and concise with your vids. I’m working on a metalcast strat body and the metalcast color didn’t jive with the metallic coat because I was impatient. It pulled together and made little clumps of metallic gunk under the translucent blue. Guess I need to be patient 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@BradAngove]

Lighter coats to start with will hopefully help.

[@sean0095]

I have heard that there are different types of spray paint, acrylic, and enamel. How can you tell if a can of spray paint is acrylic or enamel? Of all of the colored spray paint cans that I have, none of them specify whether they are acrylic or enamel. I understand what you said about mixing types of spray paints and that many factors may play a part with a paint job to craze, but how can I tell if a can of colored spray paint is acrylic or enamel? Am I overthinking this? Thanks.

[@BradAngove]

Check the manufacturer specs online.

[@henryschaechterle2108]

Really appreciate your videos - just had wrinkling happen on a Tele I'm building using all Krylon products. Let the final color coat dry 24hrs the clear coat wrinkled basically on contact. Had a similar thing happen using all Rustoleum 2X products (which is why I moved to Krylon - hey I'm on a budget). I'm really feeling this is a reaction problem - what I'm hearing on the internets is to apply color coats and then move straight to clear coat waiting around 20 - 30min per coat. Or I hear if you wait 24hrs you need to scuff the final color coat (which I hate) so the clear can bond with the color. What worked on my last job was wait 24hrs - I scuffed the final color coat - applied another coat of color - then started clear coating after 20min - worked fine. Feels like a crap shoot at times.

[@BradAngove]

What you’re hearing is essentially correct. Fresh paint/clear doesn’t adhere to partially cured gloss paint (with limited exceptions). It needs to be scuffed for it to bond properly, or recoat I led within a short enough time to allow for chemical adhesion.

[@henryschaechterle2108]

@@BradAngove Well that worked - I spaced these coats about 25min apart 3 primer - 3 color - 4 clear -- all were fairly light but good coverage. Turned out fine.

[@BradAngove]

Glad to here it worked out.

[@AIRaquarian]

After finding out what they wanted to charge to paint my car I decided to take it on myself. I did a complete prep job of the entire body by hand and decided on using Dupli-Color Paint Shop for all three stages: primer, color, and metallic clearcoat. I decided to use the same manufacturer for all three stages to avoid problems just like this. Initially the results were spectacular. Two years later, my car started an insane amount of crazing but only on the hood. My question is; why did it occur 2 years later? If I applied too thick wouldn't that have shown up much sooner than two years later? Sidenote: All coats we're done with a sprayer, no rattle cans.

[@BradAngove]

Duplicolor is acrylic lacquer. It probably reacted to heat and sunlight because the clear coat doesn’t have enough UV protection.

[@josh33025]

I just had this problem with rustoleum, I primed and base coated a boat motor let that sit for 3 days and came back and shot clear on it and it wrinkled 70% of it. Maybe I sprayed the base on too thick because the primer was unharmed. O well try again I guess.

[@TheJjjoj]

Humidity is the number one cause of crazing. If you paint in a non-controlled environment, crazing is very easy to get. I am without an indoor paint booth at the moment and I have to be very careful to only paint in certain conditions.

[@Roadsurfer2k11]

Got cracking from 3 variables on my 2nd coat of clear. Heat, was like 95-100. Too heavy a second coat within 20 minutes. And might have been incompatible putting rustoleum clear over krylon fusion. Had no problems putting my krylon coats on in the temps

[@marridesign4108]

Do PH changes also effect this? I'm using limewash on I assume a latex or possibly oil based wall (underneath, plaster). I would have scraped down but found a primer would help adhere without removing. Initially I used shellac based because of third-hand smoke and realized (of course) the alkaline lime would break down shellac. Recoated with acrylic primer and still some light crazing. I am finding nothing to this problem. Do you have thoughts on this?

[@BradAngove]

I’m not sure if alkalinity is the source of the issue or not. I could be.

[@marridesign4108]

@@BradAngove thank you, Brad for replying so quickly. Outside of my issue your video was very insightful.

[@kaden7298]

I’m using laquer on wood. I always spray with under coat before final coats. But sometimes in small areas it cracks and fall off. What is the cause of this?

[@BradAngove]

What kind of undercoat are you using?

[@zerixor8134]

When doing some finishing touches on a guitar i built i stumbled into this problem where i applied the third layer of clear coat 2 days after the second layer and during the drying process it just started creating large bubbles in the paint which lifted off from the guitar body... i dont know what caused it because i havent had that problem before... might have been because a change in temperature due to colder weather... although i really dont know...

[@BradAngove]

Do you know what kinds of paint we’re involved?

[@zerixor8134]

@@BradAngove i were using spraypaints. After discussing it with my dad i am almost entirely sure it was due to a difference in temperature.

[@BradAngove]

Ok. It could also be a chemical reaction, which is why I asked about the kind of paint used.

[@zerixor8134]

@@BradAngove it might have been a mix of a chemical reaction and a change in temperature. Either way i managed to fix it somewhat by poking small holes in the bubbles and then flattening them out and applying another layer of clear coat. It looks pretty decent now. Its not perfect but im happy with how it turned out in the end.

[@thesetruths1404]

I'm kinda pissed, because I have spent 2 days prepping a car for rattle can paint. Followed manufacturer's rules perfectly, in perfect form. It did this, any idea as to why? 60 to 70 degrees F. 10% humidity. Covered, painted in shade.. 1 coat Rust-oleum Painter's Choice Gloss Blue Prime+Paint. Waited 60 minutes. 2 coats Rust-oleum Gloss Navy Blue Enamel, 45 minutes apart. No runs, drips, or reactions at this point. Waited 30 minutes to apply clear. I was excited. 1st coat of Rust-Oleum Crystal Clear Enamel. Waited 30 minutes. Seemed fine. 2nd coat Clear, and little random lines formed within 1 minute of spraying it on. Waited 30 minutes. 3rd coat. 30 minutes. More lines formed. 4th coat, and even more lines. Is this crazing? It looks kinda cool, almost like a pattern of crackling, but will it be flaking off fast? I don't know. It's drying now. Daylight tomorrow after coffee will tell. Sure is annoying though.

[@BradAngove]

Cracking and crazing aren’t quite the same, and I can’t tell which one you have. Sounds to me like it’s probably cracking from re-coating after 30 minutes when the last coat is part way through the drying process.

[@thesetruths1404]

@@BradAngove I called Rust-Oleum. I've spoken to 3 of them so far to prepare this project. 3 different advice sets. 😆 Between them and my test I did prior I think the process was fine up until the Clear. The auto paint product specialist said to wait maximum of 15 minutes between ANY and ALL coats being applied in one session. And that ALL coats should be laid down prior to 1 hour passing from start time. So to do 7 light coats like I want in one hour that's a coat every 8 minutes, with 2 minutes to spare between each coat to fetch and shake a warmed can. Speed painting. Their instructions don't say this on any of the cans though. The instructions on the color cans I used say recoat anytime up to 1 hour, or wait 48+ hours. The Clear can says "recoat anytime". So that's a failure to provide clear directions...pun intended. A test spray I did using 4 coats on an old hood I had didnt have any wrinkle though. I did 2 light color coats 20 minutes apart, waited 30 minutes, then 2 light Clear coats 15 minutes apart. Those were fine. So that was 65 minutes. Right at their 1 hour session limit. So it seems to agree with their phone advice. So I think my Clear coat time was too long on the car panels. Should have stuck to 10 to 15 minutes between Clear coats. But their cans don't say this is necessary. It is likely due to our humidity being low (around 20%) and air temp still warm around 70F. In a very humid area my time-line would likely have been just fine. Thus is DIY Life. Now I get to wet sand like a boss and hope I don't get into the color layer, or roughly knock down the wrinkles with 1000+ grit and apply Hammered Clear to cover it up. I'm thinking try in that order using Hammered Clear as backup. Next time I will test spray exactly as I plan to do on final project! 😆

[@adorabledeplorble8497]

Thanks! I was already sure to leave everything (paint and doors) at room temp over night and I was still getting pretty frustrated because my issue is manifesting in my second coat on several doors I need to get done. The first coat on both sides of every piece had zero crazing, so I’m basically ruling out contaminates. I will try a slightly lighter coat and allow even more dry time between. New subscriber today 😎

[@BradAngove]

I hope that fixes the issue.

[@TheBlaert]

I just did a set of wheels. Rubbed down corrosion and loose paint etc until nice and smooth. Used die grinders and various mops for this. Then a coat of etch primer followed by a zinc phosphate (1K) primer. Keyed primer with 400 paper, cleaned and then a spray-gun silver 2k basecoat, then clearcoat ( I never got to that stage). However I noticed alot of sinkage when I applied the first coat and could see where the primer had been keyed. Applied another coat and it looked ok but then localized crazing appeared. Any ideas why? I'm guessing the 2k basecoat doesn't like the 1k primer, but maybe have rubbed too hard when keying and thinned the primer too much where the crazing happened. Gutted to say the least. Am thinking now I'll wait til the paint has cured, rub back the crazing, apply a coat of 2k primer then another basecoat?

[@BradAngove]

If you’re spraying metallic you need to prep sand at 800 or the metallic sinks into the scratches and makes them more obvious unfortunately. How long did you wait after sanding the 2K to spray it again?

[@TheBlaert]

@@BradAngove Thanks for the reply. Haven't got that far yet. I sprayed them yesterday so might get the crazing sanded this week sometime. I'm not too bothered about them as they were free wheels and they're only for a 2002 Passat, but would still like them half reasonable looking. Would rubbing back the reacted areas then recoat with light coats of basecoat work? The areas that didn't react actually look pretty damned good and cured nicely. tried chipping off some of it with my nail and it didn't chip off. I do remember that I applied a nice light first coat, then saw the scratches appear and may have did the next coat too thick.

[@BradAngove]

Ya, I would just sand everything smooth with 800 grit and hit it with a couple light coats of base. Then see where you’re at.

[@TheBlaert]

@@BradAngove Cheers man much appreciated. I'll give it a go this week.

[@josiahsifuentes253]

I was painting my grill and after I painted it put clear on top it started cracking made me not want paint no more hours of working on it to look worse …😢😢

[@ahole5407]

Just found your channel. Was hoping you could give some insight on painting plastic such as fairings. I went with upol enamel and Duplicolor 1k extreme gloss. I am very disappointed in the results as the clear left a gold tint and this was with black. Waited a week before shooting the clear and now three weeks later it bubbles up when a drop of gas touches it and wipes clean off with acetone.the clear wet sands "ok" but the enamel a month later still balls up. Wishing I went with a 2k clear but was not sure if it would react with the enamel. Not sure what I should do at this point, I'm in for $300 already. Am I looking at stripping everything off and doing a complete repaint? What do you suggest? Can what I've done be saved somehow? I only choose to use enamel because of it's flexibility knowing that I couldn't get a flex agent with a 2k rattle can. Thanks. Subscribed.

[@BradAngove]

Are you not able to polish up the enamel itself?

[@ahole5407]

@@BradAngove I would think that the enamel would polish as I shot a car with Rust-Oleum thinned with acetone years ago and it polished up ok. However this project was all covered with 1k clear that left a yellow/gold tint. Are you suggesting that I wet sand everything down to the enamel and then compound/polish?

[@BradAngove]

That’s probably a reasonable option. Enamel usually doesn’t play well with clear coat.

[@ahole5407]

@@BradAngove thanks for the help with this perhaps you could do a future video on some of the reactions when using different types of paint and highlighting the downsides of each while putting emphasis on the benefits. (UV/solvent resistance, ease polish & sanding, flex and adhesion) Doesn't seem to be that much information out their other than conflicting options. It could help save a lot of people the trouble that I am going through. Again, I like your videos due to the no nonsense approach you take. 👍

[@kalebgriffin1993]

So I just primed my guitar today with white vinyl sealer lacquer. I did 3 coats total with 2 hour rest periods in between and scuff sanding in between as well. It has been several hours since my last coat of primer and now the top of the body has multiple cracks in it, but not on the back, so I’m not entirely sure what that is all about.

[@BradAngove]

What did the can say to do for recoat times?

[@kalebgriffin1993]

Brad Angove the can says at least one hour dry time in between coats. I sanded it all back down and am going to give it another try. Maybe with lighter coats and more time in between

[@BradAngove]

Lighter coats should help.

[@montanajones8393]

Do you have a video on how to fix this?? I was using Rustoleum 2x coverage rattle paint & clear on kitchen cabinets. The paint turned out great. First clear coat was good as well. Let every coat dry 1 hour between coats as per instructed. First clear coat dried overnight. Sanded with 400 & then wiped down as usual with tack cloth. 2nd clear coat goes on & I'm getting crazing in certain spots. Some of the cabinets turned out great & then I have small sections on different areas with cracking that is ugly as hell. Is my base & paint coats affected as well?

[@BradAngove]

It should only be an issue with the top coat. Sand it back flat, and apply lighter coats. I would avoid the tack cloth. It may be leaving a residue that is reacting.

[@chessguru900]

I used a gloss cellulose spary paint on the top coat which I had cracks. but the paint layer before was just an ordinary quick dry gloss spary paint which probably hadn't quite dried after a few hours. I think that caused the paint cracks the so called reacting. Then I sanded it all down to the level with a 400 grit sandpaper and then smoothned it with a 1000 grit and after 24 hours went over it again with the cellulose spary paint. It is important the layer should be so refune and thinly sparayed otherwise it will react again.

[@BradAngove]

I hope it worked for you the second time.

[@parkerrose1196]

Im trying to get a clear coat enamel on my motorcycle gas tank that will purposely crack and have the spider cracks throughout it. Do you know how to mix or the correct mixtures of clear coat and hardening agents to make this effect? I would appreciate the help and knowledge

[@BradAngove]

I don’t know how to mix that with adding in a crackle agent.

[@stevesimpson3589]

Just happened, sanded smooth old paint and surface, but could not sand inside the wiring cavities, scrubbed the guitar clean including cavities and sprayed some Zinnser BIN white spray shellac and the areas in the cavities all wrinkled, the rest of the guitar where i sanded smooth were fine

[@harrisonandrew]

Bing! That’s why - I put it on too heavy - thanks for the confirmation.

[@beastofburdenc1519]

So when painting in the cold what is the best advice ? Should I warm up my parts and spray paint then let dry in the heat as long as I can ? Or should I just paint my parts in the outside weather and let dry in the same temperature without using heat ?

[@BradAngove]

It’s depends on what paint you’re using I think, but I’m not sure because I never paint in the cold

[@patheticpigeon7673]

So I have been trying to paint my own guitar for a while now and have run into the same problem every time. I put the color coat on. Let it dry for a day, week, or even month and then put the clear coat on. It has that crazing effect EVERY SINGLE TIME. I don’t know how to prevent it. I even let my guitar sit for a few months and went back to sand it still had the same effect. Should I start all the way over?

[@BradAngove]

What have you used on it?

[@patheticpigeon7673]

Brad Angove well I’ve used primer, color, and clear coat. All of which was just rustoleum brand that I found at Walmart. It has a lot of layers of stuff on it which makes me think that could cause it. However even when I didn’t have that many layers on it it still had the same reaction just as severe.

[@BradAngove]

More than a few people have had that issue. Lighter coats may help.

[@Harsh_Trip]

what if youre looking for this effect? like a patina finish? how could you force the paint to crackle?

[@BradAngove]

There are different types of crackle. Have you seen my video on how to do a crackle paint job? Is that the effect you’re looking for.

[@Harsh_Trip]

@@BradAngove i did but I’m actually looking for a smaller/finer crackle pattern. It’s definitely something related to temperature or chemical reaction just don’t have enough experience to know how to do it without the Montana crackle pattern. Thanks for the reply btw.

[@BradAngove]

@Harsh_Trip applying it a little too soon, a little too heavy, and with a little heat will often create cracking.

[@michelleher9969]

Does this happen with spray painting your inner headlight housing as well?

[@BradAngove]

It depends on how you prepare the surface. It can happen on almost anything.

[@allkive]

I have some shrink issues due to the cold weather

[@BradAngove]

That’s a common problem this time of year.

[@williamdougie6213]

Lmao

[@AmenIamHotepRA]

Agree 100%, I'm having the same problem too. 4/13/2018

[@kiwiboys4047]

Rub it little... Lol

[@BradAngove]

Stay out of the pool.

[@themanmike1]

Yes. Don’t think you can paint in a cold garage and run it inside to off gas in the heat. Won’t work, my clear coat cracked like a road map. Now I have to wait for it warm up enough outside to repair it.

[@cheekypepsi8772]

mikescharvel yeah. The bottom of the door is like it for my 16 polo s

[@carissaplustwo]

All three are my problem! Thank you so much man I messed up my in-laws shelf

[@BradAngove]

I hope you’re able to fix it up.

[@utubehound69]

I got a new Guitar & it had crackled finish right at the Nut along side of the neck on the bass side of the neck it's a LP. What do you think caused that?

[@BradAngove]

+Watchman4u It depends. How old would the guitar likely be?

[@lookinatcha5279]

How do you fix the crazing?

[@BradAngove]

Sand it off and re-spray

[@amanda_rae91]

Hi there! This is very informative, never having dealt with something like this before, I really wanted to understand where I went wrong. I am doing a DIY in my bathroom on the countertop with Rustoleum Appliance Epoxy spray. I started to get this problem and I think it’s because I didn’t wait the 30 minutes for the next coat.. I waited a day. So now, sanding like crazy to get it smooth and guess I will wait a week to recoat (since the can says recoat in 30 min or a week). When I recoat, I will be sure to do much lighter coats. You live and you learn, right?! I learned on this one for sure!!! 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@BradAngove]

I hope the recoat goes well.

[@Sroor90010]

So for me its better to take my bumper outside and my paint mixture outside so both will be cold and ill have no issue cause if the weather cold while drying temp will changevand make spider, wrinkles or am i wrong?

[@BradAngove]

Paint doesn’t work properly in the cold.

[@Sroor90010]

@@BradAngove its about 18-20c now, but tommorow morning will be about 20-21C so is it ok ive kept everythig outside preparing for tommorow morning Anyway ill give it a try, light coats wait15 minutes between base coats Then spray clear coat after 1 hr and between clear coats am waiting 10 minutes as per instructions ill wait 20 minutes usually 2 layers of clear coat iam doing and thats it

[@Sroor90010]

@@BradAngove update Just finished and its perfect, i love it, ive dissasembled the fender now and prepared it for spraying will do that tommorow morning Man iam enjoying painting and spraying in this weather no dust and bugs 😂, but our neighbors thinking iam parting the car 🤣🤣🤣 Will fix fender at night after spraying and will check how to dissasemble front door after that 400 grit sanding and take it to the roof for painting 😅 my paint booth is the roof in our biulding 😆😆😆, i know many people in my country will say take it to the shop to do it for you, and i feel that there is no relation between me and my truck if i let the shop do it and ive already bought all mateials which will be waste 😭😭😭 Which is not fair so ignore people and do what you like and enjoy your life 👍👍👍 Sorry for long post 😆😆😆

[@BradAngove]

@@Sroor90010 I'm glad to hear it went well.

[@dannygalindo7020]

Hi so if I have Is wrinkling on clear coat do I let it sit for about a week and then try to send it with 2000 grit to get the wrinkles out?

[@BradAngove]

Yes let it dry fully then sand smooth. I’d use 800 grit.

[@script9372]

Thanks for the information, that was helpful

[@sebastianhordern5077]

i was spray painting over some paint i did yesterday it was completely dry but the recoat caused it to crack

[@jamesb8818]

i need some help Brad. i have sanded/cleaned/repainted my project 6x now and it keeps happening. i have tried multiple clear coats for the top layer and for some reason they all cause the same reaction. the last time i did this i let it dry indoors for 3 days and went to use some clear coat and the corners crackled again on all of the stuff i tried it on. i am trying to restore an old 1960s cooler for my wife and it is costing more to restore this than it would have been to just buy it restored. i am probably 100+ in just paint right now from re-spraying. Behr - Hidden Sea Glass color spray with primer (oil based) Rust-Oleum - tx ultra cover gloss clear was the latest one i tried (oil based) (though i just loooked it up and it looks like primer + paint clear, maybe i just screwed it up?)

[@BradAngove]

You’re just trying to clear coat over an oil based paint? Those combo cans are tough to predict. That’s why I almost never use them. Regardless, if you let the color dry and then sand lightly, you need to spray in warm dry conditions and apply your first couple of coats of clear very thin. I mean borderline comically thin. Just gently spritz it on there to bridge the gap. Then you can move to proper coats. I haven’t coated over that type of paint, but I think I would probably use an oil based polyurethane.

[@jamesb8818]

@@BradAngove are you not supposed to clear coat over the combo cans? is there something safe to use on the inside of a cooler? thank you so much for your help. I will for sure try it.

[@jamesb8818]

@@BradAngove this is my first project ever and I just want it to look nice for my wife.

[@BradAngove]

I have no idea about the safety aspect, but you should generally be able to clear coat over combo paints as long as they aren’t enamel.

[@Bad_handle]

Super informative. Thank you

[@chessguru900]

I haven't finished it yet. I have used body filler and then sanded down but not used primer paint not sure if it is necessary. my paint work cracked because of applying too much paint.

[@binagarten4667]

I have seen so called professional paint shops, Ford Dealers to Classic car restorers whos paint came out with pin holes and crazying. 2K or and the now new water bourne paints. Professional spray booths, I and I have never sprayed anything except hairspray, did an old car on the street, with one coat Acrylic spay and it came out fantastically until someone decided to key the bonnet!

[@BradAngove]

Well I’m glad it came out looking good

[@revolution3797]

Yep so iv paint a hood 6ft by 3ft,looked great at first. Then sanded cuz I wanted it perfect,wet sanded then dried it. Cool day then probably made it colder. Spray painted not even 10 seconds later the paint started wrinkling man this can be so frustrating

[@BradAngove]

Paint does weird things when it gets cold unfortunately.

[@geoffreyrawlings9736]

Good info thanks for your time.

[@ItsJustMeLogan]

This happened to a guitar i just painted, i think it got too cold and shrunk, is it now just a matter of sanding and repainting?

[@BradAngove]

+Pictur3PerFect13 yes, essentially that's the only way to fully reduce the chances of the problem perpetuating.

[@Bluestouse86]

Hey brad. I’m an automotive painter. Our base coats are water based... I’m wondering if I can use our water based base with lacquer? I’m wanting to paint a telecaster with vintage amber on the back and sides with gold flake on top. Do you think I could spray a water base coat then apply the gold flake in lacquer?

[@BradAngove]

I’ve used lacquer over water based paints before and never had a problem. Just make sure it’s 100% dry before coating over it. Lacquer doesn’t like water or humidity. You should be able to add flake to your first couple coats of lacquer.

[@laradresden5914]

I had this problem - too many coats and then a different type of paint... What is the solution... to sand it down past the crazing, or to completely strip?

[@BradAngove]

Just sanding it down past the crazing should be adequate.

[@crazychicken00]

full spectrum led light will help to with drying ur parts not even one cracker inside

[@AceReject]

Had it happen twice once I think was because I put a clear coat on after my color was touch dry which I now know is a not a good idea, and this week I was making a custom ps4 controller the gold paint I used was set nicely and it was a colder day when I added the clear coat I may have put it on a little heavy as it dripped a small bit, it was crazed only in a few areas not all over but I've sanded it down and am hoping to respray tomorrow.

[@BradAngove]

Keep the first couple coats nice and light and hopefully you can avoid the issue.

[@AceReject]

@@BradAngove Went on Perfect thanks for the tip.