Bradford Cathedral - modelling the nave from card and paper

[@jonr6680]

This project is going to be seen by thousands of visitors from around the world, & probably last for decades, maybe even centuries. Truly a legacy.

[@Chandwell]

Gosh I'm not even thinking of that at the moment.

[@curtisgrindahl446]

Your work is really breathtaking. I appreciate you capacity to dive deeply into this project with the help of your friend from Bradford Cathedral. Your skill in modeling is a joy to behold. Thanks for all of this. It boggles my mind that you have only 15.9xx subscribers. It would seem to me that every model railroader and every model builder would want to follow your work at Chandwell. Deep respect.

[@Captainpubwatch]

I agree with you 100% Curtis, I’m surprised Chandwell doesn’t have more subscribers and this channel is so great for modelling. The channel is an encyclopaedia of how to build amazing things!

[@janetlewis7145]

​@@CaptainpubwatchYou are so correct! Bill and Janet from California

[@Chandwell]

Thank you again for your kind words. I am pleased with my almost 16K subscribers, but some modell-making channels do get an awful lot more. Not sure why; probably a combination of my presentation style, modelling subject, and general demeanour, I guess.

[@timothyp8947]

@@Chandwell I doubt too many of those 'bigger' modelling channels get asked by their local cathedral to make a model of it 😉 Personally, I love the way you show us Chandwell - and now the cathedral too - and how you go about designing and building your models for them.

[@Captainpubwatch]

@@Chandwell There’s definitely nothing wrong with the presenting style at all, you run a very professional channel. Echo the idea about whether other channels have been approached to do something like the Cathedral - this speaks volumes 👏🏼

[@romancharak3675]

I love the different shades of the roof, Michael. Really lovely.

[@Chandwell]

It has worked out well, I think!

[@0y0chang0]

The fact that this combines two of my favorite things, model railroading and architectural history, makes this one of my must watches on youtube. That fact that you add the interviews with the cathedral historians is just topping on the cake.

[@Chandwell]

Thank you very much indeed!

[@marklindsey4112]

Great modelling as usual Michael. Really love the different weathering on each side of the roof. It's one of those real world details we might not use if inventing a building from scratch. Really looking forward to seeing the cathedral progress.

[@Chandwell]

Yes that worked out well, I think. Keep watching for more!

[@mattp1337]

You absolute madman. Nice work.

[@roystudds1944]

Great work on the cathedral Michael. Some very interesting comments too. Fascinating project to get involved with. Thanks for sharing your progress. Roy.

[@darreno9874]

The Nave looks fantastic, especially the windows. God bless

[@Chandwell]

Thank you!

[@rodericfindlay4147]

This really is magnificent. It's so exciting watching it come together. Thank for a most inspiring video. It all looks so beautiful.

[@Chandwell]

I'm enjoying seeing it take shape, that's for sure.

[@Miertreg1]

Super job 👍👍👍

[@Chandwell]

Thank you!

[@MartinFutter70]

Another cracking episode and the first part of this model has turned out beautifully. I'm really enjoying Maggie's insights too, they compliment your video with aplomb

[@Chandwell]

Thank you! I am really lucky to have Maggie's involvement.

[@ianjeffery4773]

Looks amazing, good job.

[@Chandwell]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@georgeclements2742]

Thank you Michael for another interesting, educational and informative video. Superb work as always. Best wishes.

[@Chandwell]

Thank you!

[@danielvalbuenahernando2187]

Marvelous! Good luck with it

[@Chandwell]

Thank you!

[@railwayjade]

You are truly a master! Might I suggest that the building itself is so mix and match in everything with the upgrades and extensions and changes that maybe it would not look to crazy that the crenelations are different? Of course, I can't see it close up so will leave that up to your judgement. Again fantastic work

[@Chandwell]

Thank you. I will stick to my "as long as it's recognisably Bradford Cathedral, then it doesn't need to be perfect" mantra.

[@paulwynne6744]

Another fantastic build and video 100%

[@Chandwell]

Thank you!

[@ChristopherLovett-l2j]

How refreshing to see somebody that is willing to bin days of work because it does not meet the required standard, well done and no wonder the finished article is so impressive.

[@Chandwell]

Sometimes, needs must! :)

[@CastleHillLightRailway]

@@Chandwell Perhaps should have kept it as part of the 'build story' and to demo lessons learnt - your work is so good - a joy to watch and see!

[@markholdsworth3486]

This is just fab. And thanks too for the very interesting videos.

[@Chandwell]

Thank you!

[@ajmatthews7700]

Shaping up nicely. The colours are so realistic, it's hard to think it's a model at all.

[@Chandwell]

I'm really pleased with the colours.

[@justinclayton3022]

Looking good Michael. A few of useful techniques I'll have try. I like the idea of cutting the card edges after joining 3 layers. Though it does rely on holding my cutting knife exactly 90degs to the card to get a proper square edge.

[@Chandwell]

A long time ago now, I spent an hour solid, practising cutting straight lines so I could get them as 90 degrees as possible. I am not perfect by a long shot, but it definitely helped.

[@Captainpubwatch]

There’s so much in this one Michael, I’d be here all day if I listed and discussed them all - but - the windows, the cutting of those is amazing, and seeing them fit together looks great. I can’t get over how small the details are and how you’ve got this to work. I was a bit surprised to see the bin make an appearance, but it’s not the first time on Chandwell! Has Maggie previous experience of presenting or media training? She seems to really have the hang of being filmed and explaining things. It’s great to see this come together, just seeing the frame and supports brings this to life that bit more, fantastic work!

[@Chandwell]

Thank you! I am not sure about Maggie's experience, but as director of education, she spends a lot of time giving talks and such like. She's superb, and I am so lucky to have her along with me.

[@Captainpubwatch]

@@Chandwell It all seems to be working very well Michael. Looks like your links at the cathedral are proving very useful indeed. Just to double check something (thought I’d do it in the comments in case it helps someone else too), I take it Perma Protect is the PermaJet one labelled as canvas varnish? I know it’s 99.9% likely to be that one but wanted to be sure. I spot the 1 litre version is about £37, looking at AK Matt coming in at around £8 for 100mls that’s a big saving overall. A rainy and windy day here waiting for the delivery of more 1mm and 0.5mm card, sticky labels here already 👏🏼

[@martingreen999]

Wonderful!

[@Chandwell]

Thank you!

[@MicroModelRailwayDispatch]

Great work! Looking forward to seeing the tower build.

[@Chandwell]

I'm looking forward to seeing how it turns out!

[@ElaineJones-w5e]

Can’t wait to see it finished beautiful 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@Chandwell]

Me too!

[@ianbareham5872]

Michael Great video now you’re finally starting the actual modelling, rather than test pieces or 3D mock. Liking Maggie information it seems the real Cathedral did the have ongoing changes. Rather like many of the Chandwell building builds which you used different real ideas combined into the building. Looking forward to you adding the various smaller buildings to the core buildings of Nave & Towers. Ian

[@Chandwell]

Excited to see it come together!

[@allotmentuk1303]

Enjoyed this well up to your normal standard 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@Chandwell]

Thank you!

[@anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204]

great vid

[@Chandwell]

Thanks Lee

[@janetlewis7145]

Viewed your talk at the cathedral. I think your a better public than you think. Love Maggie's background of the cathedral. And we enjoyed your nave build. Bill and Janet from California

[@Chandwell]

Thank you both!

[@patapscofallsdivision2579]

Absolutely brilliant, Michael!

[@Chandwell]

Thank you - always means a lot coming from one of my biggest inspirations!

[@simontrainsmodelrailway]

The Nave does look epic, great video

[@Chandwell]

Thank you!

[@doctormo]

Wonderful work as always Michael. ♥

[@Chandwell]

Thank you Martin! And the tower is coming along nicely in Inkscape 1.4...

[@timothyp8947]

Even though it’s one component amongst many to come, it already gives such an impression of reality. Very impressive.

[@Chandwell]

I think it will look super if I can finish it to a similar standard as this.

[@rzholland]

Superb

[@Chandwell]

Thank you!

[@GBDT]

Excellent work Michael. Don't worry about parts of the cathedral not being square. In the real world most buildings are not square. 😅. George.

[@Chandwell]

Definitely - although I think it is still possible to tell the difference between "wonky through age" and "wonky through sloppy modelling". I'll just be careful. I think I can manage it.

[@stevenhoward3358]

level and square and true are terms which rarely belong to old buildings

[@Chandwell]

That is true. Just need to make it look like "old building wobbly" rather than "badly modelled wobbly".

[@daviemaclean61]

Looking good Michael. Probably because of the KZbin algorithm, but I have seen a couple of other cathedrals/large churches where one side of the nave has crenelations and the other doesn't. I still don't know why, but it's a church thing! Cheers

[@Chandwell]

Hmm.. That's interesting... I wonder if there's a reason.

[@markavis7232]

I wonder whether a small high-speed abrasive disk would let you grind away material when you already have things glued up and you can't get in properly (or support things rigidly) to use a knife. I thought that regarding you having to hack away inside to clear the windows on the back of the second flank - but also at the end where you mention those buttresses are a little out of bonk with each other. I think 'Dremel' is the branded version, but there are cheapo things which work well enough, especially as you're cutting into quite soft material. Anyway, thanks for another video, I enjoyed it.

[@Chandwell]

Yes, a one of those would be perfect for that job. I've had one on my wish list for many years but it never comes to the top of the "priority spend" list.

[@markavis7232]

@@Chandwell I think I've got a spare unbranded one - if you want it (and I can find it, and it works) you can have it (you might need a power supply to run it off, like a car battery charger - I'll have a look). If you're interested and don't mind giving a stranger (from Lancs...arrrgghhh) your address, leave your email and I'll get back to you.

[@markavis7232]

(One more thing - have a Google of a 'Jeweller's Peg'. To support small things which are already glued up and get in there with a knife, such a thing might be sometimes handy - and you could make one from scrap for free, which would fit with the general approach!)

[@jacob.munkhammar]

In Swedish, the word "nav" means hub, so as a Swede I have always thought of the English word "nave" in the same way: the central part. (It is related to "navel".)

[@Chandwell]

This is interesting! I’ll pass onto Maggie as she will be interested too.

[@jacob.munkhammar]

@@Chandwell It may be added though, that we do call the nave of a cathedral "midskepp" (mid-ship) and the ailes "sidskepp" (side-ship). In that context it is logical that nave is related to "naval" rather than "navel". Still, I find the likeness intriguing. Tell Maggie, her contributions are very interesting!

[@SeymourClearly2]

Fabulous modelling as ever Michael. For the internal bits that need cutting away would a Dremel cut sufficiently well? It might be easier than trying to do it manually

[@Chandwell]

Yes, a Dremel would be perfect for that job. I've had one on my wish list for many years but it never comes to the top of the "priority spend" list.

[@CastleHillLightRailway]

Fantastic Michael - what a start - the quality is fantastic and I'm loving Maggie's interesting inputs - Such courage binning that part - I couldn't have done it, it would have gone into my spares box for a future, less public background element!

[@Chandwell]

I lose count of the things I’ve binned!

[@dcarbs2979]

A lot of effort and steps for such a tiny effect (less than a mm each time). It's a level of detail that brings it out above other models and a result that was worth the extra effort.

[@Chandwell]

Thank you! I’m pleased with how it turned out.

[@TheHongKongHermit]

I don't think the slightly higher crenellations matter. It's often common in artistic interpretations to give a little more (or less) emphasis to certain details, and having these be ever so slightly more prominent just achieves at N scale what they were intended to do in real life: be seen. Looks good, doesn't matter, and if things are slightly off here and there... well, I've seen your videos about the real cathedral, and THAT is slightly off here and there.

[@Chandwell]

This is a wonderful way to look at it. Thank you - I would never have come up with this thought myself.

[@RoamingAdhocrat]

it's so disconcerting to cutaway to a local expert who's not Britney Scroggins

[@kellypaws]

I have to say I prefer Brittney Scroggins. It's more relatable.

[@RoamingAdhocrat]

@@kellypaws what, you've never curated a cathedral before?

[@kellypaws]

@@RoamingAdhocrat Astonishingly, no. It isn't something I felt the need to do.

[@Chandwell]

Britney will return!

[@Chandwell]

@kellypaws - Nice to hear from you. I am pleased you're still watching! Not seen a comment from you in ages!

[@jgo1961]

You have the temperament of a monk.

[@Chandwell]

I'm not sure my family would agree! :)

[@Gnurftl]

About the nave being latin for ship: in German it's Kirchenschiff - church ship. Nave aisle is Seitenschiff (side ship) and transept is Querschiff (lateral ship)

[@Chandwell]

This is really interesting. Thank you.

[@retrorampage484]

Friday afternoon delight. - Not like that.

[@Chandwell]

:) Thank you

[@neilpickup237]

Just a thought, but some of the people and companies involved with the Bradford Cathedral project have been so helpful, often above and beyond, would it be appropriate to include some form of recognition on your main layout? I was thinking as a modelled character, a billboard, the name on a shop, or even just a wanted, a missing, or even an artiste, or 'turn' poster outside a club or pub. Somehow, graffiti on the outside of the cathedral does not feel appropriate. Although I am sure that more acceptable ideas exist.

[@Chandwell]

This was a really inspiring idea. Watch this space!!

[@paulwomack5866]

I've been watching a few videos on bookbinding - I want to make a neat job of a printed-from-pdf manual for a hifi component. But (relevant to this channel) bookbinders spend a lot of time making accurate cuts and folds in paper and cardboard. In the longer term, you might want to watch a few videos, to see if there are any transferable tricks. I'll mention one - when making a deep cut, double bevelled knives will tend to fall away from the straightedge, making a non vertical cut. A single bevel knife (with the flat side adjacent to the straightedge) doesn't - it can make a deep, perfectly vertical cut. The easiest to get single bevel knife I know is sold for woodworkers - a Japanese "Kiridashi" marking knife. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKmom4Gld9Wnjpo

[@Chandwell]

Really good and interesting advice - thank you!