Wagner (after hearing the Variations on a Theme of Handel): "The old forms are not dead so long as there is someone who is truly the master of them." "The Symphony Since Beethoven", Felix Weingartner, Translated by H.M. Schott.
@segmentsAndCurves3 жыл бұрын
That's very nice words from Wagner.
@sanderspoelstra89613 жыл бұрын
@@segmentsAndCurves and very interesting!
@segmentsAndCurves3 жыл бұрын
@@sanderspoelstra8961 Indeed.
@thomassnider66912 жыл бұрын
Probably the only nice thing Wagner ever said abut Brahms.
@1389Chopin10 ай бұрын
Great quote - this channels brahms' Paganini commenter says liszt admited brahms variations were better - but his were first. Personally i like the handel variations - the last few then a straight lead into the fugue - amazing. My personal favorite recordings #1 van cliburn, #2 manny ax.
@marktlancaster3 жыл бұрын
I'm ever so grateful for folks like this who take the trouble to upload not just the audio, but also the score of the music. I love reading the music as I listen. Thank you!
@danielkelly5910 Жыл бұрын
Me too
@catherinejones93963 жыл бұрын
I adore this gem. I first heard Lance Dossor play it in one of my piano lessons at Adelaide's Elder Conservatorium in 1959 when I was 17.. It was the best ever lesson.-made me realise I never would reach the heights I had thought to aspire to, and freed me from the agony for the first time in 12 years, which may have been Mr Dossor's aim! I particularly like the delicate humour in Variation 10.
@yondertzАй бұрын
I don’t know how to react. Did mr. Dossor do a good job as a performer or a teacher? Anyways, at least we have these amazing recordings.
@henrywolfecarradine8 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite set of variations.
@ferocel8 жыл бұрын
The most intelligent reading of this piece I ever heard. Just stunning in every way. Thanks for the upload.
@ultrametric93178 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it is great playing.
@timothythorne94645 жыл бұрын
This set, and the intensely romantic and virtuosic Paganini Variations which followed, are the finest examples of the form since Beethoven's epic Diabelli Variations.
@calebhu63834 жыл бұрын
@@timothythorne9464 I would say that Schumann also did miraculous work with his Symphonic Etudes
@timothythorne94644 жыл бұрын
Caleb Hu I don't know this Schumann piece, and really haven't listened to a lot of Schumann. I've heard people swear that Schumann is one of the greatest composers, and others say he's second rate. What I've heard by Schumann I really like, his concerti and symphonies. I probably need to listen to his solo piano works and then I'll get back to you
@calebhu63834 жыл бұрын
@@timothythorne9464 His solo piano works are not the easiest to decipher but they are far and away his greatest works. Listen to the Fantasy, Carnaval, Fantasiestucke Op.12, along with the Symphonic etudes.
@timward2764 жыл бұрын
I love that build-up after the "music-box" variation, through variations 23 and 24 until the theme explodes to life in 25, and then the fugue takes wing afterwards.
@andremouss25364 жыл бұрын
Did someone notice that the final part of the fugue (from 24:45) may well have been an inspiration for Modest Mussorgski in "the Great Gate of Kiev" from "Picrures at an Exhibition" ? There is even the same bell tolls and carillons from 25:02.
@segmentsAndCurves3 жыл бұрын
It's more likely to be a development of the theme/motif. Beautiful effect indeed.
@MichaelConwayBaker4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic performance of one of the milestones of the piano repertoire!
This was a delight. Thank you for posting this recording -- Kovacevich's performance is one of the steadiest, and at the same time one of the most incisive interpretations of this piece I've ever heard. GREAT commentary, btw!
@bassonvolant70972 жыл бұрын
I remember when I asked my piano teacher how about my studying these variations and he replied : "Nope, t's too dangerous" 🤭😁
@IvanGreindl6 жыл бұрын
Une version *équilibrée* de cette œuvre magnifique : sobre et sensible, sans pathos, sans recherche exagérée "d'effets". Simplement superbe... [Thanks for sharing!]
@sedefcankocak95238 жыл бұрын
Such delicate touch in Variation 5: great playing.
@andrewanderson61213 жыл бұрын
there are many distinguished versions of this masterpiece and this one is definitely in the top echelon! he manages better than many those last couple of pages where the subject often gets buried. We can be very thankful for such a life affirming joyous piece of music. It 'lights up our life'!
@watutman Жыл бұрын
This 2nd best to Dovgan. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqvd32Lp6atng
@orgyenzopa7 жыл бұрын
I have long admired immeasurably this recording by Kovacevic. Bravo! (Amazing what a treasure trove lies in store for hapless people - like me!)
@МарианнаЮматова7 жыл бұрын
Нет слов для выражения,насколько прекрасные вариации! Фуга исключительна,обладающая неповторимым,свежим музыкальным содержанием!! Я сравниваю И.Брамса,как продолжателя,по силе музыкальной мысли с Великим Л.Ван Бетховеном!!! Трижды,Браво! Великий Мастер!!!! 🎹👏👏👏👏👏❤🎹👏👏👏👏👏
@TJFNYC2128 жыл бұрын
I love everything SBK does. He is truly one of the greats and a little underappreciated in my mind. thanks for posting
My Top 10 Variations pieces: 1. Bach Goldberg Variations 2. Beethoven Diabelli Variations 3. Brahms Handel Variations 4. Rachmaninoff Chopin Variations 5. Beethoven Eroica Variations 6. Mendelssohn Variations Sérieuses 7. Brahms Paganini Variations 8. Beethoven 32 Variations in C minor 9. Brahms Variations Op.21 no.1 10. Chopin Variations Brillantes
@segmentsAndCurves3 жыл бұрын
Chopin "La ci darem la mano"?
@segmentsAndCurves3 жыл бұрын
Anyway, that is a nice set!
@Sam-tj9np3 жыл бұрын
finale of the ninth and eroica
@juankang04 Жыл бұрын
Schumann symphonic etudes
@zswu31416 Жыл бұрын
Also "The People United Will Never Be Defeated"! Takes a while to get used to if you aren't into atonal stuff, but its amazing!
@hugonavakopp4 жыл бұрын
I read in a biography of Brahms that he composed these as a gift for a birthday of Clara Schumann and that she prepared them in a week’s time for a concert .
@nestor42494 жыл бұрын
Two genius at work
@Aaronthegreatest4 жыл бұрын
dang the Schumanns knew everybody
@marcoesquandolez4 жыл бұрын
I also read that he was quite dissappointed with her performance!
@nadiaboulanger93233 жыл бұрын
that's crazy
@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven3 жыл бұрын
@@nestor4249 Although the senior Schumann was definitely superior.
@steffig1008 жыл бұрын
Bravo! What a climax! Thank you for uploading this version.
@CocTheElf6 жыл бұрын
I love how clean Brahms' scores look. There's no unnecesary cadenzas nor pauses.
@timothythorne94644 жыл бұрын
Jorge González Brahms was a Classicist living in the wrong time. And, like Mozart, he had entire four-movement sonatas and symphonies thought out in his mind before committing them to a score.
@calebhu63834 жыл бұрын
He followed in Schumann's footsteps, and I don't think Schumann wrote a single cadenza in his life
@classicalpublisher02184 жыл бұрын
@@calebhu6383 Schumann has one in his piano concerto, although I am not sure if that's quite what you're referring to? Let me know
@calebhu63834 жыл бұрын
@@classicalpublisher0218 Hardly a cadenza by Romantic standards, definitely not for showing off
@classicalpublisher02184 жыл бұрын
@@calebhu6383 I agree, but a very beautiful one at that! :D
@KV46718 жыл бұрын
Julius Kätchen on Decca also did it very well. Brahms his best piece (opus 24) for the piano perhaps.
@jeromeweingart55967 жыл бұрын
Juiius Katchen's performances of Brahms were among the best I have heard. His recording of the violin / piano sonatas with Josef Suk are brilliant We lost Katchen to cancer at age 42.
@gaydvorak70534 ай бұрын
Katchen is probably the best Brahms interpreter IMHO. Rhythmically driven, lyrical, dramatic, and subtle, all at once. His recording of the late works of Brahms might be my favorite piano recordings of all time
@piano15008 жыл бұрын
My absolute favorite interpretation of this piece.
@michaelwisse92843 жыл бұрын
how about Kätchen
@sovietunion4875 Жыл бұрын
You should listen to Perahia's as well.
@watutman Жыл бұрын
Alexandra Dovgan. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqvd32Lp6atnrM
@classicalpublisher02184 жыл бұрын
17:17 and 17:36 has the BACH motif... anyone else notice? Perhaps this foreshadows the coming fugue!
@johannesbrahms33223 жыл бұрын
there is no way this was intentional, I was just continuing the same idea, but cool
@ultimateconstruction7 ай бұрын
Holy shit.
@timothythorne94644 жыл бұрын
Best set of theme and variations ever, by any composer.
@eduardoguerraavila83294 жыл бұрын
In the oppinion of several critics, greatest cycle of variations are "Diabelli Variations", from L.V. Beethoven... Alfred Brendel, Donald Tovey, and several more. 🤔
@albertol.40484 жыл бұрын
Goldberg and Diabelli are far above
@timothythorne94644 жыл бұрын
Alberto Lorenzo that's definitely arguable. Neither of those has a crowning fugue. Diabelli Variations, while interesting, is way too long. I usually fall asleep long before it ends. Same with the Goldberg variations but I find most of Bach's music academic and boring. Brahms built upon his predecessors, particularly Bach, Mozart and Beethoven, to create music of supreme excellence with not one wasted note anywhere in his scores.
@eduardoguerraavila83294 жыл бұрын
@@timothythorne9464 I have to disagree with you, "Diabelli Variations" have a fugue at final and It has more sense of variation of the main theme, with absolutely no waste of any note. They are vastly superior to Brahms' work.
@albertol.40484 жыл бұрын
@@timothythorne9464 Goldberg don't have a fugue hahahaha. Ok they probably don`t have a formal fugue, but the counterpoint on each variation is way larger than in all Brahms. If you find Bach academic maybe the problem is that you don't have the kwoledge required yet. Or that you don't have the sensibility required. In any of both cases, I'm not gonna argue with someone who says that Bach's music is academic.
@alexnewson60132 жыл бұрын
This piece (and this particular interpretation) presages Bartok in my jumbled old brain. Not sure if anyone else needed to know that however, sorry folks....
@sirdicaudore7 жыл бұрын
Kovacevich is truly a GREAT musician!!!
@marcstrassburg31268 жыл бұрын
Great playing, great commentary!
@Peabody65178 жыл бұрын
i really really love this piece
@spottertruk7 жыл бұрын
My favorite pianist of this amazing piece written by Brahms is Emmanuel Ax.
@makaan6999 ай бұрын
Yo, for real! I got his recording recommended by spotify, loved it immediately. Haven't heard a better recording of the piece, it's so energetic and lively, yet precise, crystal clear and he just gets the mood soo right for each variation.
@meowmeowcat60136 ай бұрын
That indeed is another excellent rendition of the op.24.
@BLOP8888 жыл бұрын
The trills oh my
@brothersamati7 жыл бұрын
Listen to Wang Yujia. She gets them right!
@canman50606 жыл бұрын
My daily exercise to make my dogs listen to me !
@Liborun6 жыл бұрын
nonon, listen to Sokolov, you will see
@rociopereyra37066 жыл бұрын
BLOP888 zd
@peterjongsma27545 жыл бұрын
Did they trill you?
@fredvacher39984 жыл бұрын
Fantastic performance!
@PieInTheSky98 жыл бұрын
That fugue is so incredible, similar in brilliance to Beethoven's fugue in the final movement of the Hammerklavier sonata.
@ultrametric93178 жыл бұрын
Although I love this piece, and the fugue is credible, it's not remotely up to Beethoven, to whom fugue was a mother tongue. The driving intensity of the fugues that conclude the Diabelli Variations and the Op. 106 sonata are without comparison in anyone outside Bach. I would even say Beethoven and Bach stand together as equals in this form. Nevertheless this is a great and fascinating piece and fully worthy of Diabelli and Goldberg.
@ullrichherz70537 жыл бұрын
Ultrametric Please listen intensely to Serkin's rendition of Max Reger's Bach-Variations opus 81, esp. the fugue!! You won't regret it. Imho at the same level as Bach's Goldberg and Beethoven's Diabelli Variations.
@Angel33Demon6667 жыл бұрын
Ultrametric Don't forget the fugues in his Misha Solemnis.
@1anya7d7 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Beethoven took it as an inspiration
@bennyhillschineseblokechar36897 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, I recognise that leitmotif.
@mariabeatrizpontesdecarval76444 жыл бұрын
Esplêndida interpretação, enriquecida por esplêndidas e didáticas explicações. Como aprendi, o que aumentou o prazer de ouvir. A fuga, então, é extraordinária. Realmente, “breathtaking”.
@jihoonlee4338 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting! Gotta look into some more Brahms ::::: ^) Happy new year!
@brettw1736 жыл бұрын
i really love this piece. thank you for the notes. they are very helpful. mr. brahms could've made the rain dance for him, i think. :-)
@danik.55454 жыл бұрын
A great tribute to the amazing Handel
@MichaelConwayBaker Жыл бұрын
Wonderful performance of this masterpiece!
@manuelgustavogarciacastro19556 жыл бұрын
The best version I ve ever heard. The fugue in wonderfull
@L11022 жыл бұрын
I love the 5th variation
@Rokudammela8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this masterpiece and all of these infos!
@thefredericchopin65814 жыл бұрын
I know I’m late, but I love the fact that you uploaded the variations of the Aria right after the Suite that it came from. IMO, Brahms was at his best when composing variations - I can listen to them and think ‘Yep, that’s Brahms’. The fugue, though, I find a bit forced musically. Other than that, great set of variations!
@mothbyte986 жыл бұрын
This should be Brahms making a case for his music....absolutely stunning!
@aksuli12 жыл бұрын
Never heard this before. A great step up from original.
@vladtepes31237 жыл бұрын
23:31 reminds me Toccata and Fugue in d-minor Bach-Busoni (piano version)
@sergio63575 жыл бұрын
I agree
@andremouss25364 жыл бұрын
Mussorgski probablyt took an inspiration from the finale (25:01) for his greatest work (Pictures from an Exhibition) in the last part The Gate of Heroes in Kiev), when the Great Bell on left hand fights the carillon of right hand.
@kmkantymir43737 жыл бұрын
The perfect pair to the Paganini variations
@joshuaslater7858 Жыл бұрын
Variations 9 and 23 are amazing!
@xswooshx Жыл бұрын
The fact that this piece doesn't have over 1 million views -- AT LEAST -- is borderline criminal. However, worry not! I'm doing my best to increase that number as quickly as possible! **EDIT**: For those who want additional background on the piece, it even has a Wikipedia page -> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variations_and_Fugue_on_a_Theme_by_Handel
@BESTOFCLASSICALMUSIC7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video so I can read along with the music!
@m.erubik3 жыл бұрын
Hi
@Barbapippo3 жыл бұрын
GREAT performance.
@Michelle6998832 Жыл бұрын
#9 is so jazzy, I love it!
@1389Chopin10 ай бұрын
I usually judge var22 on through the fugue - i don't know the performer - but bravo! This is excellent
@watutman5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the finale!
@lacorchea9552 ай бұрын
Handel y Brahma... Brahms y Handel. La neta del planeta. Bravooooooooooo
@FirstGentleman18 жыл бұрын
It's a cathedral.
@giampierogirolamo7134Ай бұрын
My final recital at conservatory and shaped me for all life
@otonanoC8 жыл бұрын
The last few measures are a quote of Schumann's toccata.
@arrimeme64473 жыл бұрын
Magnificent rendition. Thanks for uploading. It seems to me that Katchen's accentuation of the var. 3 fits better the music written by Brahms: the first quaver must bear more accentuation that the second, because the bar/beat begins with it, etc. Me parece que la acentuación de Katchen refleja mejor la escritura musical: la primera corchea debe estar más acentuada que la segunda porque por ella comienza el compás/parte, etc.
@valerieheinderyckx4506 Жыл бұрын
Superbe.
@johannsebastianbach98295 жыл бұрын
eesh! Those Romantic composers had a hard time writing fugues
@brettmcinnes25384 жыл бұрын
@JASON P. Roberts Yawn!
@michaelrogers54954 жыл бұрын
Lol, I'm sorry? It's a romantic fugue. Get over it
@felix6994 жыл бұрын
Haha, all the good subjects already written by you Bach
@1233-p5f4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJOmqJ6OhZeiiqs
@baileyrob4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5rNhoOVZd6Yntk Get your dentures 'round that, Bach!
@johannesbrahms33223 жыл бұрын
16:20 intentional f instead of f#?
@andrewmacgill17045 жыл бұрын
Marvellous! Thanks.
@grumpyoldpianistplus Жыл бұрын
Beautifully played in mostly strict time, which is very suitable for a Baroque composer, who Handel was. However, this is a composition by a composer in the late romantic era which should be enhanced by some give and take called rubato. Rostropovitch, teaching a pupil, once said 'Where were YOU in this?'
@jan-heinzhesse73042 жыл бұрын
♥️ Operette ♥️♥️🤩💪 zu viel Werbung?!!!!!
@kniazigor22764 жыл бұрын
Une version "idéale" de cette magnifique oeuvre de Brahms
@djtomt10 ай бұрын
Wonderful!!
@kaoutaraddadi5742 жыл бұрын
Here from appergio on sea surface 😭😭😭😭🥀❤
@meowmeowcat60136 ай бұрын
Have you done your thing with the two Brahms piano concerto yet? Wouldn't mind the Piano Quintet, three piano trios, three piano quartets, and his other solo works as well... (sorry, I am a Brahms simp)
@MrFrollo995 жыл бұрын
Variation n 5 reminds me the beginnin of the second Ballade of Chopin
@MrFrollo994 жыл бұрын
J F Thompson Listen the 6:51 minute of the 2nd Ballade (its the end)
@MrFrollo994 жыл бұрын
J F Thompson The recording of Zimermann, after the powerful coda lol
@am34565 жыл бұрын
Var. 1 - 0:56 🧡 Fugue - 21:33 💜
@lizedi74408 жыл бұрын
spectacular!
@stevewiencek13543 жыл бұрын
I tend to like Kovacevich in quite a lot of things. I feel this is played a little too "straight." Brahms is always a conundrum. He is so strict in his own adherence to form and yet he is without doubt a romantic composer. I have a Richter recording of this which maybe goes a little too far in the other direction but it's quite dramatic and the fugue is breathtaking.
@piano15007 жыл бұрын
This is just such a definitive performance. Do you happen to know where I can get a theory analysis of this piece?
@AshishXiangyiKumar7 жыл бұрын
What kind of analysis are you looking for? There's not a lot beyond what's already in the description, since it's quite a straightforward form.
@albertol.40484 жыл бұрын
Var 22 18:44
@KV46718 жыл бұрын
Kumar you are a great teacher !
@ironmaz1 Жыл бұрын
Clear nod to Diabelli variations ? [Var 9]
@timward2764 жыл бұрын
which composer wrote the most 3-against-2 rhythms (like in Var. 2)? It might well be Brahms--he does that a *ton*.
@AshishXiangyiKumar4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he definitely had a major thing for hemiolas. But who's to begrudge him - he does such amazing things with them (in his piano concertos, for instance)!
@timward2764 жыл бұрын
@@AshishXiangyiKumar Hemiolas seems to be Brahms' "thing", like triplets for Schubert and dotted rhythms for Schumann.
@gaydvorak70534 ай бұрын
Maybe Bruckner, but his hemiolas seem to be more melodic than harmonic, whereas Brahms's are the opposite
@kofiLjunggren3 жыл бұрын
Why is the piano off tune??
@kofiLjunggren2 жыл бұрын
No it’s not lol
@johnburniston6525Ай бұрын
@@kofiLjunggren I am sure that YOU are out of tune!
@grumpyoldpianistplus Жыл бұрын
WHO IS PLAYING THIS? Kumar or Kovacevich?
@次郎木付 Жыл бұрын
サムネにコバチェビチと書いてます
@huangfrancis87174 жыл бұрын
The fugue reminds me the final of Hammerklavier!
@Wihf Жыл бұрын
Who here from that vinyl in an abandoned school exploration by UrbexHill?
@AshishXiangyiKumar Жыл бұрын
Wait wait - how on earth did this end up in an UrbexHill vid? I’m pretty intrigued
@Wihf Жыл бұрын
@@AshishXiangyiKumar not this video, but the piece of music was on a vinyl in one of UrbexHill’s videos. One of the abandoned school videos
@ciararespect42968 ай бұрын
Just sight read this at my school 😅
@calebhu6383 Жыл бұрын
23:57
@pleasegoawaynowpleas8 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on the Perahia recording?
@AshishXiangyiKumar8 жыл бұрын
That one goes in the "awesome, but a bit too well-known" box.
@gwedielwch7 жыл бұрын
Marvellous comment. It is indeed awesome.
@hubertborde3 жыл бұрын
I love Perhaps recording. His sound plans are very clear.
@TheTranq7 жыл бұрын
I love variation 23
@사마천원리적인식4 жыл бұрын
brahms ~! greatest composer~!!
@timothythorne94644 жыл бұрын
사마천원리적인식 I agree. Like Beethoven, but better because with Brahms it's all about the music, with no external programs.
@eduardoguerraavila83294 жыл бұрын
@@timothythorne9464 I didn't understand your point.
@timothythorne94644 жыл бұрын
Eduardo Guerra Ávila Beethoven composed lots of program music, as did Lizst, Wagner, Tchaikovsky and most 19th century composers. In someway Brahms emulated Beethoven in his obsession with musical form, and Brahms was more meticulous than Beethoven in getting rid of unnecessary notes and passages in his music. And most importantly, Brahms, like Bach from an earlier generation, composed ABSOLUTE music--the art of Brahms was music for music's sake, without any external program. For all these reasons, in addition to the passion, tenderness, and sentiment found throughout his scores, Brahms > Beethoven. I know that's controversial, but that's really the way I feel.
@eduardoguerraavila83294 жыл бұрын
@@timothythorne9464 I couldn't be in more disagreement with you (I am a loyal Beethoven's follower) but I do respect your point of view. Regards.
@segmentsAndCurves3 жыл бұрын
@@timothythorne9464 I like absolute music, but some programmes don't hurt, right?
@GICM2 жыл бұрын
ey this is back up
@veronicarawlings42177 жыл бұрын
I work with communits in ireland
@rumataastorskiy57344 жыл бұрын
Veronica Rawlings ??
@AMoonShapedPooАй бұрын
cool
@automatofix8 жыл бұрын
Variation 13: 10:49
@calebhu63834 жыл бұрын
3:12, 12:24, 13:01, 13:40, 24:44
@Curocko2 жыл бұрын
Why are there so many parallel sixths and thirds in the fugue? He writes splendid countersubjects and then there are so many passages in extended double thirds and sixths which devolve to the point of two part writing. Was the idea to emulate how fugues often drop voices in the episodes? Doing things this way however loses the textural contrast that fugues earn by doing that, where the episodes have a lighter texture. I don't know.
@sebastianschweigert7117 Жыл бұрын
It's not the same as two part writing because there's still the harmony from the thirds or sixth. Maybe the distinction of the voices might get lost, but there's also a layer of meaning in the choice of sixth or third, etc.
@MyMydear03034 жыл бұрын
21:33 Fuga
@Scherzokinn3 жыл бұрын
Apparently Rachmaninoff learned this piece in two days...
@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven3 жыл бұрын
Which anecdote states this?
@Scherzokinn3 жыл бұрын
Someone asked me for the fact I said but there's a YT glitch which makes my reply disappear, so here's the source senar.ru/memoirs/Goldenweiser/
@robertgreene26843 жыл бұрын
My college roommate learned the Rachmaninoff Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini in a weekend,, He told me he was starting work on it one Saturday morning and Sunday evening he invited me over to the music department , where he played the whole thing through from memory, all the notes too. People like this are another breed of cat!
@Scherzokinn3 жыл бұрын
@@robertgreene2684 this is extremely impressive! :o
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@alikhalil97284 жыл бұрын
At some points some of his music seems like Mozart's non?