Why The White Lotus Season 2 Is Perfect

[@BrainPilot]

What was your favourite season of The White Lotus? Season 1 or Season 2? Comment your thoughts below!

[@happycookwithjulia]

Definitely 2

[@kelsynicole9135]

1 was still a very great season of TV, but season 2 took all the great things about season 1 and amped it up to 11.

[@ceciliaSF-TX]

Season 2! My first thought at the end was ‘we were played’! The show totally got us wrapped into who are the ONES that die. Then the show dropped/showed/insinuated so many possibilities, I was CONVINCED there would be more than one death and that Tanya was not one of them. Yes, going back, there are many clues. But then ‘how can this continue w/o her’ mentality grew stronger (that came from the love we have for her & media telling us so), PLAYED! Great season. Agree on all points. The music is a character in both seasons, great choices of ambiance and songs. “The best things in life are FREE!”

[@tom_j.]

Season 2 might have some of the best characterisation I have seen in any show and I'm glad they didn't have big plot twists and reveals, everything was subtle and amazingly executed. The cast was amazing and the plot easily overshadowed season 1

[@CoachPJackson]

2 EASY

[@L-92761]

Tanya shooting three people point blank but then flunking a jump and ending up dead is so on brand tbh well done to the writers

[@melissamoonchild9216]

lol my jaw dropped. it was great writing, perfect flair of dark humour

[@leora_in_london]

And then only wanting to know of Greg was cheating on her

[@SAYBOW69]

Well considering the back of the boat had steps that you could go down to make it easier to get in the dingy (buoy), leaning over a rail that’s about 7ft+ above the boat she was trying to get in. Think her death could been alot more creative. I won’t even mention the ladder. Sad and but we all saw that coming.

[@Komore_bi]

@@SAYBOW69 i think it works because in the moment she’s shocked and scared and very confused, and so she’s not thinking rationally. Of course going down the ladder and swimming to the dingy would be much safer and just the better option, but she’s not thinking straight and just wants to get off the boat as fast as possible. I didn’t feel like her death was lazy writing but I respect your opinion!

[@l_ifeefi_l1998]

But unrealistic when they knew she had a gun but didnt take cover. And shes so good killing everyone with her eyes closed

[@trinaq]

A lot of Greg's behaviour earlier on in the season makes sense. Namely, how annoyed he was when Tanya invited Portia along, since she wasn't part of the plan, and it would be easier to kill Tanya without her assistant around.

[@stuartbagley2586]

Yup!

[@nicholasread2255]

Yup

[@joygimbel7760]

Yes thought that too. Unfortunately he’s going to get ALL her money 😢

[@TheDavidk78]

He arrived separately & wasn’t answering her phone calls when she asked him. Then he just disappeared without any contact. So strange.

[@revmd621]

You’re right! Now I see how his behavior was very off in both seasons.

[@RayPaganJr]

I can’t believe how much I enjoyed the second season more than the first. The Italian cast were amazing.

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah it was incredible!

[@timothyo718]

At first I was comparing it too much with the cast from Season 1 and was initially disappointed. However I was quickly won over with the Italian cast. Ended up topping my enjoyment of Season 1.

[@RayPaganJr]

@@timothyo718 It was great not having the annoying girls and masturbating brother. They were just not interesting. Other than that, season one was good. F. Murray Abraham is still an amazing actor to me. Best grandfather ever. Aubrey Plaza was excellent, not her usual deadpan self.

[@samu_el_pack]

Nope. Although is gus first season is better

[@80sports20]

Agree. I thought season 1 was really good, but season 2 was REALLY REALLY REALLY GOOD!

[@Momofan69]

Small thing I see overlooked, how the guys came to Italy to "get in touch with italian roots" classic americanoitaliano stuff right, but they try and essentially face a wall of women who just say fuck off, I think it's super funny considering how their idea of Italy comes from the male fantasy-esque Godfather, explained by the son in like episode 1.

[@edwinam1362]

Aaah true!!!!

[@fieryhellkitten]

The season is basically toxic masculinity. Expecting those women to accept them with open arms is part of that.

[@deborah1904]

La nonna e la mamma

[@oscarmarques4213]

Agree and I would also add that the way they treat women and then get that wall of women to reject them.

[@drollkk1677]

there were three women who said fuck off too, all with the same ages as the 3 guys

[@SwedishObjects]

It was a nice touch that it is left vague whether Ethan and Harper actually cheat on eachother, reverberating what Daphne said about never knowing exactly everything about a person.

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah I thought that was a good touch! I feel they definitely did

[@pinkblossoms]

There’s a certain level of respect that was lost the moment they leaned on other people for confidence or validation they don’t get from eachother. They got passion they only got from no longer worrying if the other person was telling the truth or not. Because they no longer cared. And being worried about cheating is normal in a relationship, but it’s like there’s no more worrying. I feel like they didn’t have much of a spark in the first place and I feel like this storyline couldn’t have worked with a couple that was madly in love.

[@adriennethiery5432]

Yes! This went over the heads of people of so many viewers who thought daphne was secretly miserable. Lol she’s thriving

[@zxbc1]

@@pinkblossoms It's never about respect, it's about trust. The whole season was toying with the mythology of the "happy marriage" and how it must be built on fidelity and truths. Then it went on a huge arc involving multiple families to show us that in the end happiness is not about any of that, it's about acceptance. Harper and Ethan "fixed" their catastrophic marriage literally by each having an affair and reigniting jealousy for each other. They literally found happiness and spark by imitating the other couple they utterly despised at the start. This entire show is, to me, an ultra pessimistic and sometimes even nihilistic view on humanity and relationships. In the end, people from different social backgrounds weren't able to break out of their molds and instead accepted their predicaments and found peace. The men (even Albie the white knight) didn't find redemption in moral character, they effectively reinforced their prejudices and indulged in fantasies. Dominic his father basically spent 50k and "bought" back his family, and Albie was compliant to receive a bribe out of his own obsession and naivete. In the end, nobody received enlightenment through their ordeals. They just found methods to cope and carry on. It may all seem like a romantic escapism out in some beautiful resort, but the message is just bleak and realistic and unsentimental.

[@LL-um6ug]

@@adriennethiery5432 she was definitely miserable. She had to hold back tears when Ethan told her about Harper and her man

[@kalen7126]

Cameron, not being the father of his very blond son , was subtle yet adds a great deal to the plot.

[@hellohome]

Whoa! I didn’t even catch this

[@akombalasau4022]

omg Wait. do the father is not Cameron? but the trainer?

[@bubthe1Nonlyseal]

🤣🤣🤣

[@kalen7126]

@@akombalasau4022 remember Cameron is on the washroom and rolls his eyes when wife is chatting with kid. Thats was rhe second giveaway.

[@lville88]

Wow didn’t even think of this. Way to notice that lol. That scene with the pic of her kid makes so much sense now. My mind is blown lol

[@hardcandy9880]

The change in Ethan is soooo much deeper than becoming like Cameron having secrets. Harper and Ethan became like Daphne and Cameron in a sense that they have traded honesty for passion. And while that is pretty twisted, it did reignite their marriage, thus saving it.

[@vegaastroo]

Tea!

[@brynniefresh9746]

I just hope they don’t continue to be like them in the future…it was pretty hilarious when Daphne said she fucks her personal trainer and how he has blonde hair and blue eyes and just shows a picture of her two blonde hair blue eyed kids 😂 like does Cameron not know

[@joseluis5055]

@@brynniefresh9746 pretty sure he knows, which is why he seemed upset in the bathroom before going to say hi to the kids in the videocall

[@hez859]

@@brynniefresh9746 one was blonde haired! I just finished it last night lol, one has dark hair and dark eyes and the other one was blonde. Don't think she is dumb enough to have BOTH kids be the personal trainers

[@_slvgnt]

@@hez859 also cameron’s kid almost killed her while giving birth, like a sign that it shouldn’t happen

[@MarkoRa87]

Whoever did casting for this season should get a raise ! Especially for Italian cast members and of course Michael Imperioli!

[@plantahari]

PEPPA PIG

[@indianawesomeness]

*Imperioli

[@Dice562]

Chris!

[@ElcoMoyer]

That scene where his son asks for the money was really well done.

[@meridegreis5185]

@@plantahari I read that Sabrina Impacciatore totally improvised that line and the director was so struck by it that he left it! 👍🏻 Personally I found that line extremely funny and I can’t help laughing like a crazy one each and every time I watch that clip.

[@vivvy_0]

things will never be the same without her, rip chaos lady 😢

[@BrainPilot]

So true! She brought so much!

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

Hopefully she will Comeback and WE See season 3 earlier from season 2 or WE See her twin sister somehow get her Back plsz

[@player-ic9yj]

maybe next season will be a prequel

[@bebeenderson7863]

The White Lotus series is written like a Shakespearean play.✨

[@ThomasFoolery8]

It’s honestly incredible. I’ve never been so emotionally invested in a show that’s a mere 7 episodes.

[@Dr.SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi]

It reminded me of Big Little Lies. How well that show was written. The constant showing of waves crashing in both shows. And the acting and writing being brilliant in both shows. Both are HBO products. Anyone agree?

[@ThomasFoolery8]

@@Dr.SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi yeah great point. I do see the parallels there. I did enjoy BLL but TWL was on another level for me. I think I can say it’s my favorite show of all time now.

[@johannagarzon9313]

An it has a Portia and all!

[@justinegonzalez7400]

I WAS JUST SAYING THIS !!!!!

[@connorm1817]

I'm desperate for Greg to face his karma in Season 3. PLEASE!

[@bedlambikes]

Wipe him out nice and early though. His character is mostly forgettable.

[@fv6125]

That is so cliche

[@connorm1817]

@@fv6125 K

[@baboon_baboon_baboon]

@@connorm1817 Cringe

[@josesibajafiguls4533]

This series don't use the karma thing for the "bad people", that would be so predictible and basic, leave that for simpler netflix shows!!! XD

[@darcycookson8210]

The fact that every storyline was top notch is a point that I hadn’t considered. So many shows have at least one character that you don’t care about but there wasn’t one storyline that became a “bathroom break” dip in the show.

[@hamdialihassan1586]

I have a theory that Harper and Cameron never kissed. No, think about it: the show never shows us the scene so that we all have to decide for ourselves whether she’s telling the truth or not and that’s really what settled it for me. I think Harper still loved Ethan and was still attracted to him but started to notice him slipping in his attraction to her so in order to save her marriage she realized in Noto that what Daphne and Cameron were doing was working to a certain degree. She needed to spark jealousy and intrigue into her relationship to get the spark back. So she planted the idea by just talking to Cameron which is weird enough cause both Ethan and the audience knows that she kinda hates him. Then she goes back to her room at the same time as Cameron knowing full well that Ethan would find that suspicious and then locked the door extra hard and act all weird and gaslight him when he asks what’s going on. And then finally when he can’t take it anymore and demands an explanation she feeds him some bullshit story that she knows will drive him insane. And then if you really look at Cameron during their fight in the water he seems genuinely taken aback. And Harper’s plan works, her marriage is saved.

[@lunar_light]

I think you're on to something! I think that sounds more on brand for Harper than to actually cheat. I'll definitely keep that theory in mind upon rewatching.

[@CobraDove1111]

Little did she know her husband would fuck the other girl (maybe)...OUCH

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

Yeah i think so too

[@melissamoonchild9216]

well and they even say a secret is sexy, so its up to the viewer to wonder

[@BrucePain-_-]

no thats not it, you dont know what feeling of betrayal can do to people. She really felt like Ethan cheated on her and couldnt believe its not true and people to dumb decisions in that moment, so she most definitely fucked with Cameron

[@Lililililili333]

I just realized that Tanya DID kill herself like the tarot reader said!!!!

[@niaselah3348]

I think Greg targeted Tanya in season 1. He probably knew she was rich and was trying to get to her room the first time they "casually" met

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah that could be true!

[@ms.bubs4fun506]

Also, how was he able to afford the White Lotus anyway?

[@RodrickMarsMoon]

@@ms.bubs4fun506 Good question 🤔.

[@kennnethaguilar]

I think Mr Armond was part of their group that’s why he was connected to white lotus & was able to get him a room right next to Tanya

[@niaselah3348]

@@kennnethaguilar I would be so disappointed in Armond if that was the case. I liked his character very much and to me he didn't seem the kind of person who would participate in something like that but it could be or he may not the aware of what was actually about yes

[@brandonashe1763]

if only tanya aimed for the water 😪 found her annoying when she arrived to the resort in s1 but man she really grows on you.

[@childoftime9964]

I was yelling at her in my head, 'go down the ladder!'

[@niltania5518]

Best was the Vespa ride! I couldn’t stop laughing

[@nternetrat]

complex characters

[@SM-ce1uy]

well all the characters are written to be slightly annoying but that is the charm

[@Nickelodeon81]

But can she swim? I mean she has built in floats but...

[@davezedman]

I think Jack was a class A douche, but in the end, I think he had a soft spot for Portia. No one was expecting Portia to come, so I think they stuck Jack with her last minute to keep her distracted. And I think he was supposed to kill her at the end, but I think he actually liked her.

[@stuartbagley2586]

The last few episodes made him out to be a tragic character. Him talking about the dark hole he was in and hearing him conflicted about his loyalty to Quinten and also knowing that he had less than honorable intentions toward Portia made him feel like less of a one dimensional frat boy.

[@bilguana11]

Portia was a major douch cunt to Albie.

[@isabelmartin8427]

@@stuartbagley2586 agree wholeheartedly. It was sweet when he talked about wanting to help out someone who had helped him so much. That he let Portia go, even though he might face harsh and possibly deadly consequences from the "powerful people" he talked about showed that he had a heart and a conscience. It's interesting that Jack is really the "wounded bird" in need of rescuing that Albie talked about, not Lucia.

[@devonmeyers8213]

@@isabelmartin8427 I didn’t make that connection while watching, but you are spot-on! Even with costume/wardrobe dept. symbolizing it with the 🐓 hat! Thank you for sharing that!!!

[@madelinechang9474]

@@stuartbagley2586I think the deep hole was also a referral to another hole….

[@graciegg24]

I thought that Tanya would never be murdered because she was the only character in both seasons. I also thought that she would be in subsequent seasons because for me, she was the "main character ".

[@joycieket]

Well... She wasn't murdered.

[@schneblen]

I actually wanted the hotel manager from season 1 to be a recurring character. I actually disliked Tanya once she screwed that masseuse out of an opportunity of a lifetime. I didn't wanna see her die certainly but she just lost her charm to me when I saw what she did. I did love her killing her would be killers though, I was cheering and was super sad when she died. I did laugh a little because of how ridiculous it was. But I also knew Tanya was going to die once they got her to their island and made her do drugs. My thinking was that they were gonna force her to give her bank info or something then kill her but I was surprised that Greg was involved and didn't even catch that it was him in the pic until she called it out.

[@-willow-980]

Yeah, I can't imagine watching a season without her in it. :(

[@ViralVideos-pr2oi]

Greg is in both seasons

[@4schoolly]

@@-willow-980 ikr, i only watch it initially because of her

[@LadyEng]

The funniest bit is Tanya saying "I've never heard such a strange voice" about that guy who was a male version of her.

[@smalltittypunkgf]

remind me where this from? who's strange voice did she hear exactly

[@codyallen3729]

@@smalltittypunkgf it was the older guy that worked at the beach club lol forgot his name, salvatore or something

[@Stachenscarfen1]

Season 1 was fantastic, but I think season 2 is even better and the characters are more memorable

[@whe832kso10]

For me nothing will beat season 1 because I watched the white lotus knowing nothing, but then again I did watch season 2 right after season 1 so

[@SM-ce1uy]

it was not as funny and it dragged on a lot more

[@fleurjoesten]

Did anybody else notice the foreshadowing of Tanya’s death when the tarot reader said that she was going to commit suicide? For me that gave it away that the murder plot wasn’t going to happen, however with White Lotus nothing is ever as it seems, but in this case it was, even when Tanya killed herself by accident. Best show I have seen in a really long time. I love the combination of drama, indulgence, mystery, hedonism, absolute and utter beauty, the perfect score that supports the imagery and just utter awful humanness. Binged the whole second season and I just had to keep watching.

[@SunnyOnTheInside]

The character development is so good. I believe all of these terrible people are real and no one can convince me otherwise

[@ThomasFoolery8]

Same! I’m having conversations and arguments about what these characters did and why as if they’re real people. Why am I so invested in these characters??

[@pineapplepappa5487]

@@ThomasFoolery8 Aw shah🙃👉👉👈🥰👈🇨🇰🇮🇨🇨🇰🇨🇰🇨🇰🇨🇰🇨🇰🇰🇲🎊🎊🎀🛍️🛒🧹

[@KainyStyle]

They are definitely based on real people, I've met a few Iike that and acted like a hypocrite few times myself.

[@williambrookings722]

We are all in our ways some of these terrible characters and that is what made this show so remarkably good.

[@monk1312]

Season 2 probably the most satisfying thing I've watched all year. Flawless.

[@BrainPilot]

It was very good!

[@righteousrawb7225]

Facts

[@marykay7878]

i was most surprised by how i initially judged daphne and thought harper was the real one. however harper takes her husbands friend to her room. daphne is just more aware of her hypocrisy than harper is.

[@BrainPilot]

Very true!

[@sunflowersentimientos]

Daphne is in an unfaithful relationship, as Harper suspects, but daphne is at peace with it. She knows what to expect. Whereas Harper is riddled with discomfort and doubt of her relationship

[@ms.bubs4fun506]

Harper reminded me of Paula from season 1. They talk crap about the privileged people but act just like the ones they make fun of.

[@marykay7878]

@@ms.bubs4fun506 YESSS!!!

[@princeLC]

I just want to be clear that the only reason why Ethan chose to move forward was basically after he smashed Daphne basically getting back at her husband. In the end, they were all even!

[@nightingalewednesdaynightmare]

Honestly Season 2 was way better than Season 1 because Season 2 dived deep into the characters relationships, insecurities, and even their wants and desires when it came to the themes of love, power, and money. Season 1 was more of a political comedic satire that talked about the colonialism of an oppressed group (Hawaiian/indigenous people) and the ongoing mistreatment and unfair wages that the oppressed group goes through when dealing with the rich or the people that have power and wealth to take their land while making profits from said land.

[@kelsynicole9135]

I still very much enjoyed season 1, but season 2 was just that much more engaging. The characters had much more depth and I found myself more invested in these characters and story.

[@billymcdugal3970]

I actually feel the opposite. I thought season 1 was psychologically realistic and season 2 characters didn't have conversations they normally would for plot conveniences. I thought it was enjoyable but i think it's obvious he didn't have as much time to flush our the characters and plot. Still enjoyed it, but for me, season 1 was superior.

[@dianemacqueen5419]

I loved both seasons. I wish season two had a few more episodes to complete some storylines

[@gundabalf]

that was absolutely not the point of the first season lol

[@robz.3225]

@@billymcdugal3970Agree 100%

[@arielantoniorosenberger3336]

It's incredible how they implemented the foreshadowing aspect of Tanya's death. It was obvious but at the same time so subtle to pick up. It was everywhere, the symbolism, the score, even some of the shots and transitions (like the opera one). BEAUTIFUL!!

[@BrainPilot]

It most definitely was!

[@griffinkelly8694]

When it's revealed that Lucia was playing Albi the whole time, it wasn't surprising, but it was a little odd. Cause for the first half of the show, it seems like we're following her and are very clued into her motives, thoughts, actions and conversations with Mia. But when she finds her mark, it's as if the show intentionally cuts her off from the audience.

[@nimityaka]

It was obvious all the way, that she was playing him. Albie is just dumb as fuck.

[@emileriksen2481]

Maybe to mirror the way Albie likely felt

[@adamsteiner7352]

yeah it was a clever way of writing it. I knew she didnt have a pimp that they had shown so I knew she was lying about that at first but as time went on I thought it was real

[@tkay8548]

She's an incredible actress, that scene when she was trying to guilt Albi on the bed was amazing

[@domferretti]

Just bingewatched season 1 and 2 over the weekend. Never watched it before.i was nervous going into season 2 because season 1 was so good BUT DAMN season 2 was incredible

[@ThomasFoolery8]

It was actually better. I binge watched both too, and felt the same going into s2. I couldn’t believe how good it was.

[@vbrown6445]

@@ThomasFoolery8 Me too. Just binged both seasons over the new year's holiday. Loved both seasons, but season 2 really drew me in.

[@Daveluvutube]

See I didn’t like season 1 but season 2 was so good

[@trinaq]

I'll really miss Jennifer Coolidge as Tanya, she was an enjoyable presence over the past two seasons, and it makes sense why she had to die. Still, I hope that they'll at least bring her back for flashbacks or dream sequences, or better yet, Tanya's identical twin sister, who is investigating her murder!

[@nellid.3264]

that sounds like a mexican soap opera

[@who__cares__]

@@nellid.3264 Dead to Me did it and it worked out great

[@lolitareyart]

Just make it be set in the past before both seasons

[@zeeak308]

The director said she will be reincarnated somehow

[@lisadiconti]

@@zeeak308 Really? Cool.

[@annaluisagarrote7586]

Ethan accused Cameron of flirting with his girlfriends and wanting what belonged to him. In the end, Ethan slept with Daphne and just took interest in Harper after Cameron did it

[@ms.bubs4fun506]

Ooh, good point! Makes me wonder if Ethan liked girls that Cameron would want on purpose. Those two were definitely competitive and friendemies

[@flymilo904]

Exactly very very good point that a few people seem to notice

[@biohead66]

wow great point!!! mimetic desire I think they called it. And it shows us that it works both ways,

[@adriennethiery5432]

@@ms.bubs4fun506 they were the male version of Paula and Olivia from season 1

[@skshore338]

Oof

[@marielockhartmichlova102]

When we realized that everything was somehow reversing in this show, Mia being more like Lucia, Lucia more like Mia etc. made me believe that Tanya would ultimately kill all the gays, and I was shocked to see that she died as well. But in the end, we see that it wasn't an actual reversal, in fact, Lucia was still deceiving etc. So it wasn't a true reversal.

[@LifeofDayy]

I love that you specifically highlighted the music! A truly great score should almost feel like another character in the story and Cristobal absolutely knocked it out of the park!

[@BrainPilot]

I totally agree!

[@bedlambikes]

Cinematic masterpiece in modern film making.

[@sjceezy]

I think you hit the nail on the head, very rare to be equally invested in each character's side stories. Pretty impressive stuff!

[@jayventi]

Yes i love how the deaths made so much sense and we pretty much already saw it coming but it still wasn’t anticlimactic. It was actually very chaotic. I love how we felt like the entire cast was at risk of being killed off. Truly genius.

[@nik1128]

I can't remember the last time I enjoyed a series as much as white lotus. Idk if season 3 can ever top season 2.

[@BrainPilot]

It was a real great show! Hard to believe it can, but anything is possible with this show, so I am excited for it!

[@kena.8003]

Spoiler alert! Season 2 literally had me at the edge of my seat the way no other show has (at least not in a long while). Especially once I figured out what the gay guys were up to. Tanya finding that old photo of Greg with young Quentin was definitely a holy sh!# moment. Great, great show.

[@curious1264]

A huge misstep leaving the photo there

[@ChINNg28]

So many great scenes and the final yacht scene really really got me! My heart was beating so fast, I was fully immersed in Tanya’s desperate situation, the kind of helplessness and panic, the idea that you are GOING TO DIE but still what should you do now to save yourself?? Her performance was great.

[@vangosito]

This season finale was very satisfying for me. The way Ethan and Harper's relationship got torn apart just to be rebuilt was fun, intriguing, and complex, it kept me guessing. All in all though, I think the themes on season 1 were presented much more tightly. The destruction in the path of the guests and the effect they had on the locals was at the heart of every episode and storyline; however, I found that finale to be rather uninteresting. It seemed to be building up to some big shock that was gonna bring all the characters together. It didn't. It didn't have to, but I wish it had. This time, all arcs ended fittingly. I do wish the storylines had been more entangled than they were, but it doesn't really take from the overall quality of the season.

[@Random___________]

I don’t think the relationship got rebuilt. I think they became exactly like what they criticized the most - Daphne and Cameron. At the end it shows how cam and daph are hugging at the airport and they 2 are hugging the same. And this exactly after they both cheated. It just implements that dan and daph are so romantic towards each other bc they keep cheating and that harper and ethan are ending up the same.

[@vangosito]

@@Random___________ yeah you're absolutely right!

[@jasminesaunders2526]

I agree, I enjoyed the first season but I found the last episode to be a disappointment as well, I felt like it was leading up to a shocking ending but the end really fell flat. This season I felt all the build up led to an interesting and somewhat surprising ending. Even though Tonya's death was foreshadowed throughout it was still shocking when she actually died. That's true artistry!

[@vangosito]

@@jasminesaunders2526 yes!!! I feel like, to a point, it should have become increasingly obvious that she was the one to go, but I was still on the edge of my seat the whole finale, like it wasn't until she started shooting that it dawned on me

[@MaxFung]

season 1 did a better job of getting all the characters storylines to affect each other. season 2 does a better job of getting intimate in the stories of the individuals

[@evedotcom]

That’s a good point about never feeling disappointed when it would cut to a different story. That hadn’t occurred to me, but yeah, I was so invested in all of them. A testament to the writing and acting 👍

[@BrainPilot]

Most definitely is!

[@michaljambor7772]

Well, the hotel manager's story line of clumsy lesbian exploration was rather forced and comletely unvelievable for a woman of her age and in that profession and environment (where sex is literally allaround you).

[@imalwaysright]

@@michaljambor7772not forced or unbelievable. It was actually totally believable. People of that age are more likely to be sheltered and repressed. Their parents old fashioned, conservative, religion-influenced, in a village. There are more men and women in their 50s and older living closeted lives than younger people, who have benefited from the liberation, social awareness and acceptance they were born into

[@michaljambor7772]

@@imalwaysright What are you talking about? The character was not only closeted, but also sexually inexperienced as a supposed gay person. Totally unrealistic in that setting! I'm sure older people living closeted lives exist, but I doubt you will find them among hotel managers in a luxurious resort. That position pretty much guarantees that you are an emancipated, assertive personality who knows how to go about their sexuality (closeted or not), becouse sex is literally all around them, including oportunities in that area.

[@itsalwayssomething7490]

I remember seeing the ad for this show on the background of the HBO home screen. I was intrigued because of Michael Imperioli and Aubrey Plaza. So, I began watching. I didn't know it was 2 seasons in, so I was surprised to see a different cast on season 1 from the ad I saw. I was into it by episode 2, and had to get my wife in on it too, so I started the season over to watch with her. After the season ended, and having grown attached to the cast, I thought I would have a hard time adapting to a new cast for the next season. But, it took half an episode and I was hooked on the new cast. Then I hoped that I didn't start loving a show that already got cancelled, but to my surprise it wasn't. So glad to hear it's popular enough for another season. I wasn't aware Ned Schneebly wrote it, haha. What a great writer and what a great show. It's a breath of fresh air from what Hollywood has been producing the last few years. It has a message, but isn't heavy-handed. And it's so well-balanced that you don't get a sense it's preaching anything to you, just telling a good story. I can't wait until season 3.

[@lowbrowrodeo]

Yes, Ned Schneebly, who knew!

[@ewolfgirl]

I want to watch everything Mike White has been involved with now! 👏

[@ThomasFoolery8]

@@ewolfgirl seriously was this guy in a trance when he wrote these two seasons? This is the work of a genius! I had no idea this guy was so talented.

[@SecondTake123]

The ending was really good! Especially Portia and Albie at the end, they should have just stuck together 🤣

[@BrainPilot]

So true - then they could have avoided everything in the middle!

[@lancedavidson7819]

I think them not sticking together made them appreciate each other even more in the end

[@childoftime9964]

I really liked season 1, but Season 2 hit me hard

[@BrainPilot]

Agree - Season 2 hit differently

[@vinitsunita]

I completed season 2 in just one night. What a terrific plot of the show. I have fallen in love with Italy. They have shown a very beautiful location and I am really in love with it. Italy is next on my travel bucket list.

[@es-jm5fg]

same now I want to go to Italy

[@nternetrat]

I know they really give you travelporn too, i loved that

[@Yourhighnessnona]

Just finished it and yes, it was perfect. IMO much better than the first season which was already good. This one has so much more soul and heart into and I have lolled at times. Brilliant show, brilliant season.

[@randomgurbling4293]

the one thing that i felt was missing in this season would be the plots intertwining more with eachother, like in season 1 you could pinpoint what each event led to the next but in season 2 it was pretty much destined to happen since the first episode which kind of makes it feel redundant. i think this season was making the drama or the angst more focused on the guessing of who's gonna die rather than the lead ups and plot devices like in season 1 (ie: the knife, the bracelets the mother had, the drug bag, belinda's fake friendship with tanya, etc etc)

[@nicolea3588]

So funny! I told my husband that Eithan's bone structure looked like the sculpture

[@nternetrat]

woahhh

[@ladybug3380]

I definitely was not expecting Tanya to die. I wonder who from season 2 will return in season 3, I’m so excited!

[@ryanstanley1802]

Most definitely Portia if I had to guess, and possibly Albie

[@adelinas.7335]

I was scared for Portia the most this time around. I thought for sure Tanya would at the last minute find some way to escape. I thought the three Italian family members would meet their demise before anyone else would. How this show keeps you guessing to the very end is outstanding.

[@TimeIdle]

Quentin's friend (the one who jumped off the boat running away from Tanya) is a guest at the hotel. So multiple guests at the hotel died was not technically a bluff. It's true that when we think of guests, we think of the main characters.

[@RuReady115]

Did he die?

[@TimeIdle]

@@RuReady115 Yes. They mentioned it.

[@jackiejaworowski3256]

I don’t think they mention it- they say one guest drowned and the others were killed. No way he made it back though so that one seems still up in the air

[@who1285]

I believe the creator meant that we kind of assumed more “main” characters would die and that was the “bluff” part - like the show managed to trick us into believing it had to be a few main people :)

[@sinstrtr]

Didier and “what’s his face” 😂

[@SnipesFromHeaven]

This show really makes you think to understand, wow! I think a hidden point is how all of these events happen on vacation, where everyone should be happy and having a great time. So when situations occur, the characters feel trapped because they can’t really just up and leave! And one obvious point is how even with all of the money, going on vacation and having money wont solve all of the problems. Family issues, relationship issues, etc. will always follow wherever you go.

[@jasayehan]

Season 1 was really an enjoyable watch too. Mike White really is a master at weaving all these stories so succinctly.

[@OneFlewOverTheCuckoo1999]

I liked season one but season two was a masterpiece.

[@BrainPilot]

He most definitely is!

[@jasayehan]

@@OneFlewOverTheCuckoo1999 They both are.

[@ceciliaSF-TX]

I have encouraged so many friends to watch your videos! They are insightful, you highlight symbolism, and notice things the average person misses. Of course, kudos to the show for making such a fabulous show! Thank you, Brain Pilot!

[@bpo4736]

Even the intro was so good on season 2!

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah it was something unique and special!

[@susant6751]

I desperately miss the cast already. Season 2 was a triumph and I can't wait until Season 3 is on. I have no idea how I am going to fill that spot until then. I feel like I just lost a lover. Sigh.

[@josepheridu3322]

I loved the imagery of the city, the color tones. It was so beautiful.

[@SergePriem]

I liked how family relationship is shown in this show. Both seasin 1 and two. Not much we see on TV friendship between grandfather - dad - son. Often parents are separated from their children. But this tv show create a sweet taste of family.

[@saishasingh7339]

my theory is that harper never cheated on ethan,she wanted to take a revenge on ethan. she deliberately opens the closet door and latches the main door cause she knows it will make ethan suspicious,when ethan asks her about the same situation again and again she gives the same response that ethan gave her when she was questioning him like "you know i never lie","í've never lied to you" which makes ethan even more insane,ethan in the end did believe that harper cheated on him so to make himself feel better he cheated on her with daphne

[@aishmash5325]

They shouldn’t have killed Tanya, she could’ve become a great common point throughout all the seasons.. and it would have been very ironic too that even after her clumsiness she lived through it all 😊

[@fv6125]

Nah, she can't always be present at a resort where there is a murder. Not realistic anymore. She said it too and that is why she was the one who died in the end.

[@silviaetna9874]

The only thing i can say I agree with you 100%. I didn’t care about the murders, although the tension was always there. I loved each and every character although I didn’t love all of them. And this is great writing and casting. Lucia, Mia and Valentina were my favorite! Perfect just perfect and a blast watching it with you week after week. Thank you

[@SergePriem]

She can't be a "cherry" for too long. Actually it was a good storyline fo her . Not only bad guys get romantically killed...

[@akaranzo]

Nah, they killed her at the perfect time. Otherwise she would turn into too much of a recurring cartoonish character

[@CobraDove1111]

Exactly!!

[@emily9603]

One of the best TV seasons of all time. I cry at the end scene because it's just so beautifully done. Bravo to all involved.

[@tytar1037]

One of the best seasons of a TV series I’ve ever seen. I loved season one, especially the manager. Season 1 was hilarious. Season 2 is incredible though.

[@BrainPilot]

Totally agree - this season was something special!

[@jessicapatton2688]

Me too! The manager in season one was the most interesting character in my opinion. He was my all time favorite so far

[@filipyakimov4786]

It was amazing season. Acting , loccation , music and the story is 10/10 for me.

[@Jon.Coppernoll]

I’ve never seen a show go so hard on its b-roll

[@courtneylinn3465]

Volcanoes also symbolize something coming to a head…or an eruption. I think that fit the ending.

[@ceciliaSF-TX]

The music invite seasons was fantastic. I really enjoyed the music in the first season! In the second, it was great too, but it blended in more. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah it really embodied the tone of the show!

[@t7957r]

I love your comment about not being disappointed when the camera shifts to another storyline. In ensemble casts where multiple storylines are standard there is typically one that is just not as intriguing as the rest or whose main character is just not as liked. You were correct that really never happens here. Its hard to achieve that. It requires great plots, writing and acting to pull that off.

[@susankeefer5981]

Brilliant show! For season 3, it’s been speculated that it will take place at the Four Seasons in Kyoto, Japan which is of course beautiful, but there’s no ocean which has been a character in seasons 1 & 2. I think that the only returning character will be Connie Britton’s character, Nicole.

[@KassVEVO]

Loved loved this season. Enjoyed your video!

[@BrainPilot]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@maakinva]

I love the fact that Jack is a West Ham United supporter, hence the crossed hammers tattoo and the song he sang during one of the late walks with Portia

[@Adobo9634]

Season 2 was leaps and bounds better than Season 1. It even got me theorizing on what would happen in the end ala Game of Thrones. I was a tad bit disappointed with the ending, I really wanted more guests dead, but after rewatching the last episode I guess it ended the way the writer wanted it to end and I was just overthinking the whole thing.I love the symbolisms embedded in this show, just the thought process behind it is something I really appreciated.

[@mackenziepalmer]

Season one had so much more depth and season two was so predictable

[@Savvymoon-]

Realizing who “Bob” was- is just 🤯 and also, The writer/director Mike white is one of my fav survivor contestants. The white lotus is perfect.

[@alianthropy38]

But did anyone else get the vibe / theme that life’s f*cking us all and we’re all the gigolos? There’s always SOMETHING up for trade: money, power, freedom, revenge.. like sex is always some sort of transaction. Primalism was a huge theme in both seasons with monkeys and the men acting like apes.. there’s so much subliminal symbolism that isn’t even touched on that makes this show so great!!!

[@mementomartina]

If you look up the translations of the lyrics of a lot of the Italian songs, you'll notice that they're QUITE on the nose in most cases. Two examples: - When Lucia is first introduced, you hear "Bocca di rosa" by Fabrizio de Andrè, a song about prostitution; - "Ciao ciao" by La Rappresentante di Lista is playing during Tanya's partying at the villa in Palermo, the tune is very festive but the lyrics actually refer to the world's end AND start off as follows: How are you little girl? Where are you going tonight? It's so scary all around. It's the end of the world. Over the ruins I am queen, but I don't know what to save. If you look the other songs up, you'll find lots of other examples. Plus, they're all really popular currently or great classics.

[@JeanBakula]

I loved the dark comedy of Season One and how the staff of the White Lotus hated their elitist guests so much. It was so much fun to watch. But I think Season Two was so much better. The cast was great and the stories were darker. It's different to have a show where characters change each season. I wish we didn't have to wait so long for Season Three. It's improving more and more and the plot had more complexity Season Two.

[@imalwaysright]

Acting, writing, stories so much better than S1. The casting for S2 was perfect. I hope it doesn’t become one of those shows where the writing starts to fade and it becomes cartoonish

[@sooyaa942]

love this so much! another symbolism is the choice of books in both season. all the books are intentional, the placement, how long are they in the book and when they are reading it

[@BrainPilot]

Yes, very true!

[@emileriksen2481]

Explain?

[@ayy2193]

It's rare to get an ending right but they wrapped it up perfect. I was thinking the best ending death reveal would either be tradegy with tanya dieing or a heroic ending with Tanya killing the uncle trying to kill her. And it ended up being both combined 4:00 the head breaking would be symbolic of the curse ending and them moving on. But considering the guy probably got it on with the freckled woman in response & the airport scene, it seems theyre actually playing a game distracting themselves with intimacy just like the other couple are doing , both couples are shown together at the airport like this (I think reflecting their relationship has become the same warped game playing) The show explores complex human interactions really well . written so good with all the possibilities to keep you guessing & engaged from the starting setup And the soundtrack novelty was there again fit so good What a holiday

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

The Tanya shoot Out was one of the best Shows final Moments i ever saw it Had breakind Bad Quality l. IT was sad, Hilarius, terriyfing, thhrilling so many emotions i feeld in one Second IT was the best cinematic Work i saw IT was pure insanity!!! I Like this season even More Mr. White IS a Genius!!! Give him a crime series He could make masterpieces!!!!!

[@dpaulfranco]

What's perfect is your analysis of the show. You described everything I felt for it. Thank you!

[@BrainPilot]

So glad!

[@kimvanfelton3413]

I feel like I didn't watch the same show as everyone else. Felt like this season was meandering, gimmicky, humorless with a very thin plot. Promising storylines all fizzled out at the halfway mark. Tanya's grand finale was entertaining and arguably the highlight but it also felt like a totally different show far removed from everything else. Perhaps my expectations were too high but season one was such a pleasant surprise that I was so excited for this season. Maybe for round 3 I'll temper my enthusiasm.

[@RGBEAT]

I agree! Season 2 was repetitive and the big plot twist was implausible and predictable. But I loved season 1. Was like a different show entirely

[@everkief8650]

What an incredible show! We need a few more seasons!

[@Cloudatlas1111]

Omg Mike White is incredible! I’m gonna see what other movies or series he’s directed. I really enjoy the white lotus series & I hope there will be MANY more.

[@gabrielfrost9134]

S2 was pure chaos, I'll miss Tanya they better bring her back somehow in S3 just make it happen lol.

[@irenalovesart4064]

Great vid. The music and score French kiss perfect

[@BrainPilot]

Thanks a lot

[@shadytoast5565]

One of the best written seasons of a show I’ve seen

[@BrainPilot]

Totally agree!

[@Daniel-lq5qq]

The Tanya shoot Out was one of the best Shows final Moments i ever saw it Had breakind Bad Quality l. IT was sad, Hilarius, terriyfing, thhrilling so many emotions i feeld in one Second IT was the best cinematic Work i saw IT was pure insanity!!! I Like this season even More Mr. White IS a Genius!!! Give him a crime series He could make masterpieces!!!!!

[@SchnippSchnappShnappi]

Dear @BrainPilot thank you for the leading our WL fanclub every week! I enjoyed discussing the theories after each episode

[@BrainPilot]

Glad you enjoyed the videos - always enjoyed the theories and discussions in the comments!

[@juanrosa6969]

Outstanding TV series show. Can wait for the new season!

[@BrainPilot]

Same here!

[@JennaEmbers]

I am gutted that Tanya is gone, but when I started the second season I wasn’t sold on it at first and then it totally blew my mind, so I am trusting they know what they’re doing. Writers please don’t let us down!

[@MMAGamblingTips]

Notice that, in the very first episode, the woman in the car that blew up in The Godfather is wearing the exact same dress Tonya wore when she died. Also, check out the painting of one of the ceramic bust that has the exact same color that Tonya had on her dress.

[@eyeCU13]

I was obsessed with Lucia and Mia (especially Lucia 💛)

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah they were great characters!

[@alexiocatan5602]

RIP PEPPA PIG

[@Rogue615]

I keep watching this season over and over. It never gets old. Its up there with Game of Thrones as one of my all time favorite shows. Even tough completely different

[@BellaBella-jw9ef]

I preferred season 2. I loved the setting, the clothing, and the Sicilian characters and the Brits/French. Great plot. I didn’t care for season 1 so was happy to enjoy this season so much more.

[@riveraspen2745]

Most people who are racist didnt like season 1

[@BellaBella-jw9ef]

@@riveraspen2745 🤣🤣🤣 and you conducted a survey?

[@riveraspen2745]

I actually applied the tested and true scientific method in addition to the myriads upon myriads of white people whining about the show being too political which is odd since were forced to pledge allegiance to a flag from birth and praise America. Have a beautiful day and make sure you stay out of the sun darling. You know yall age like in light years a minute @@BellaBella-jw9ef

[@Harrison244]

I finished this last night. We were literally yelling at Tanya to just go down the stairs on the back and swim up to the dingy 😂 most Tanya way ever to go

[@StrongSevens]

Just to play Devil's advocate ... season 2 was just aite. Tanya's ending was pretty exciting, but every other characters left me feeling kind of cheated. Gripes: 1. Ethan's character sucked the whole time and I couldn't stand him. Never takes his wife's side, mopes the whole time, and just is a total wiener who then feels like a victim. 2. I was hoping for an awkward revelation between Albie and Dad being eskimo bros, instead nothing!? Cmon that was teased in almost every "on the next episode". 3. Albie got played hard and that whole realization was also completely glossed over. Seems like his character should've been somewhat devastated. 4. A few things at Quentins palazzo were kind of annoying plot cheats: banging with the door open, leaving a picture of her husband out. This plan was so calculated, but then be that careless? 5. Also thought Cameron's inability to pay and hinted money troubles was going to be a bigger issue. Still super entertaining, but I'll take season 1 over 2, in large part to the superior soundtrack.

[@solismax65]

I love the second season. The first things that came to mind about the characters was bojack horseman. How people aren’t either good or bad and getting into these flaws to develop the character throughout the story. No matter if their arc ended happy or sad/tragic

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah I thought this second season was incredible!

[@glennkennedy441]

Season 2 was amazing, I'm obsessed with it !!

[@BrainPilot]

Same here!

[@Lovelesslouvre]

Me too! I’ve seen it more times than I’d like to admit😩

[@ThomasFoolery8]

@@Lovelesslouvre yeah. I can’t let go of these characters 😢. So sad that we only get to spend 7 episodes with them. How are they so realistic and fully fleshed out?

[@Jcmasado]

I’m just left mind blown after seeing this season. I can’t wait for the next!

[@iguanacashmere]

You got the legend of the Testa di Moro wrong, it's the Man who had a wife that took advantage of a young girl, so she took his head and made a vase out of it. An ancient legend tells that around the year 1100, during the period of the arab domination in Sicily, in the Kalsa district of Palermo, lived “a beautiful girl with a rosy skin comparable to peach blossoms at the height of flowering and a nice pair of eyes that seemed to reflect the beautiful Gulf of Palermo “. The girl was almost always at home, and spent her days looking after the plants on her balcony. One day a young Moro found himself passing by, and as soon as he saw her, he immediately fell in love with her and decided to have her at all costs. Then without delay he entered the girl’s house and immediately declared his love. The girl, struck by so much ardor, returned the love of the young Moro, but soon her happiness vanished as soon as she learned that her beloved would soon leave her to return to the East, where a wife with two sons where waiting for him. So it was that the girl waited for the night and as soon as Moro fell asleep he killed him and then cut off his head. He made a vase out of the Moro’s head where he planted some basil and put it on display outside on the balcony. The Moor, in this way, unable to leave, would have remained with her forever. Meanwhile, the basil grew luxuriantly and aroused the envy of all the inhabitants of the neighborhood who, in order not to be outdone, had specially built terra-cotta pots in the shape of a Moor’s Head. Even today in the Sicilian balconies you can admire Teste di Moro, often called “Teste di Turco” of exquisite workmanship, a nice warning for all husbands!

[@alinapolat7336]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Nicktechnoo]

Even though I agree with most of the points made in this video, my main issue with Season 2 is how the writers made it almost impossible to like anyone this season. Almost every character made bad choices (or plain stupid ones) to make you dislike them almost the entire time. Ethan comes across as the shy/likable type and Harper is the level-headed Pessimist in the first few episodes but then all of a sudden Ethan refuses to tell his own wife that Cameron slept with the two girls in their room (even after Harper told Ethan that Daphne knew about Cameroon's cheating habits) made absolutely no sense to me. His who reasoning was because of the "bro code" yet Cameron had nothing on Ethan so why would he not be honest with his own wife? Especially when the show went out of their way to show that Ethan and Cameran were never that good of friends anyway... Then Harper cheats on Ethan later (which felt so out of character I actually couldn't believe that she actually cheated) and she pulls the same (out of character) crap where she lies and downplays the entire act of cheating as if it wasn't a big deal. Then at the end Ethan and Daphne go to an island to cheat and now everyone in that group is suddenly happy that they all cheated on each other, so they are "even" now? Just seemed super weird and it made all of those characters extremley un-likeable. Albie being used by Lucia at the end felt really un-earned being that he was really the ONLY decent person in the entire season with decent morals. I was excited to see Lucia making a change in her life and being with someone who would actually be able to get her out of her bad situation.... but then she pulls a fast one on him and leaves him before he wakes up which was such a low blow not only to Albie, but to the audience. Overall, I feel like Season 2 was just a way to finally end Tanya's story arc. I did enjoy all her scenes and all the characters centered around her, but whenever the show went back to Ethan, Harper, Cameron, and Daphne I just rolled my eyes at how much I disliked every one of them. Season 1 as a whole was much better in terms of its pacing, likable characters (even if they were BAD people, the audience still enjoyed them for being wacky and/or realistic), score, and plot.