Mercury 200 or Suzuki 200? Which outboard are you picking?
@benblazek33052 жыл бұрын
Yamaha VMAX sho 200. Plus another $1200 gets ya a 250hp tune...
@maddgoatee97082 жыл бұрын
If I was racing or a tournament fisher all day Mercury. But for every day fishing and just cruising with the family I would pick the Suzuki, reliability, warranty and cost.
@mathutson83602 жыл бұрын
The one in stock 😆
@benblazek33052 жыл бұрын
@@maddgoatee9708 if the only choices on the market were zuk and merc, I would have a zuk over a merc all day. Grew up in Wisconsin and drove by the merc plant in fon du lac every weekend as a kid omw north to my grandparents lake house, and still wouldn't buy one 🤣
@benblazek33052 жыл бұрын
@@mathutson8360 that's been making decisions a lot easier to make the last couple years 🤣
@mediaspeedfilms13342 жыл бұрын
I agree with ya Andy! Suzuki needs a v6 200 and a v6 225 ASAP
@TeamMarineService2 жыл бұрын
They definitely do! We have told them that time and time again. Still nothing
@benblazek33052 жыл бұрын
Right! That's why my overall choice in this segment would be the 200 VMAX Yammy and their legendary reliability. Same engine as the 250hp VMAX, so it's going to last longer than the 250 as long as the oil is kept up with
@jinmengyo516311 күн бұрын
@@TeamMarineService The Suzuki DF 6-cylinder 200 and 225 have existed in Japan for some time, but are they not sold in the USA?
@teammarinetv73262 жыл бұрын
Team Marine TV checking in!
@TeamMarineService2 жыл бұрын
Hello friend!
@turboss082 жыл бұрын
Rockin the 200 ProXS 4S on my Z19. 80hrs and no problems yet. Sips gas, sounds awesome and luckily I got the 8 year warranty for almost free so at least there's that.
@craigkellam1580 Жыл бұрын
Do you have the plume of smoke on startup?
@turboss08 Жыл бұрын
@@craigkellam1580 I did initially if I left it trimmed down for quite a while but after I changed the oil myself, I do not. The correct fill level is the 2nd ball on the dipstick. Anything more is technically overfilled and you'll get the smoke occasionally. Learned this from one of the best Mercury mechanics in the country over on BBC Forums.
@jasonrainer43722 жыл бұрын
I have a 200 Pro XS on 1880 MS Angler . Love the performance.
@BassFishingFanaticTV2 жыл бұрын
I’ve ran Mercury for last 15 years, 2 stroke optimax until 2014 ran great never any issues, 2014 150 pro xs until 2022 no issues, now a 200 Merc pro xs on my Ranger z518. Runs great very happy with the 4 stroke so far. To be fair I’ve never owned a Suzuki and all my boats have been outfitted with Merc. So I’m going with the track record I’ve experienced. Mercury for me but I’m sure the Suzuki is a quality motor.
@TeamMarineService2 жыл бұрын
Hey fair enough buddy! Glad you're having good luck with those Mercs! 👍🏻
@BassFishingFanaticTV2 жыл бұрын
@@TeamMarineService me too! Can’t afford to have something break!!
@lawman8877 Жыл бұрын
All the categories mercury won are the important ones....performance, dealer support, prop choice all the main reasons to pick an outboard
@TeamMarineService Жыл бұрын
Reliability is the #1 reason to buy
@lipsnatcher74832 жыл бұрын
Do a review of the Mercury 150 Pro XS 4 Stroke vs the Suzuki 150 SS vs the Yamaha 150 SHO
@edwardabrahamiii37428 күн бұрын
Yup I want to see it
@rickthompsom36802 жыл бұрын
I have a 200 Mercury....I am absolutely blown away with the fuel economy I'm getting compared to what I got outta my old 175 fast strike.... especially with the heat and humidity down here in Florida
@TeamMarineService2 жыл бұрын
Oh no doubt Rick, those fast strikes were thirsty SOB's
@Irishmule169 Жыл бұрын
2022 ProXS 200 on the BassCat P2. Runs outstanding not to many 250s can keep up with it..
@stgraves260 Жыл бұрын
I remember when the 200 HP Optima Max and Skeeter and Ranger boats were the best. In the earls 80s my family was camping out at Lake Worth Lake in Texas. They had a race out there and like 20 boats lined up all at once and held on to a road. My dad got laughed at when he pulled up to the starting line with a 140 Suzuki strapped on to his Thunderbolt bass boat. He got clocked at 92 MPH. If I remember correctly the second fastest boat was clock at 73 MPH. The race didn’t even look real. Dads boat was a 16’ Thunderbolt with a 10” jack plate and this fin he designed. My step mom worked at a air craft company and one of the engineers made the fin out of Air craft aluminum instead of steal. With the steel fin dads boat would go mid 70s. After the fin was made out of the aircraft aluminum is when it could hit the upper 80s. Back then the speed O on boats were only 65 - 75 MPH. Dad kept breaking his. He got tired of replacing it. It was clocked on Lake Granbury and Lake Worth and 92 mph was the fastest it’s ever been clocked at. After the boat was clocked at 92, he eventually ported and polished the heads and jetted the carbs. He drilled out the oil injectors on the cam to keep the engine cool. The boat was never clocked after the mods. Don’t know how many hours were on the motor but the motor now sit at the bottom of Lake Granbury. Dad and I we’re flying down the lake one early morning and we were WFO as he would say and we seen this motor beside us. The water was smooth as glass. That was the most scariest boat ride we have ever been on in our entire lives. Man that motor sounded so good. Sure miss my dad. We had some great times together. Best times ever were on the lake. Except this one time. LoL!!!
@realestateinvestmentresult37232 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Andy! Get this guy some live shop cameras
@TeamMarineService2 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy!!!
@satine1slave2 жыл бұрын
Performance means nothing when it's in the shop. I'll take reliability over performance. The amount of money it costs for a new motor is devastating to most households.. If I could afford a new one it would be the 5 year warranty and reliability of the Suzuki.
@andrewagius31144 ай бұрын
All the major brand out boards are good today they build very reliable
@TeamMarineService4 ай бұрын
For the most part yes we agree
@tomvancil8213 Жыл бұрын
Let’s see that 115 brand battle 🙌
@larryastle88132 жыл бұрын
On my small bass boat I have been running a Suzuki DT25 c since 95 what a work horse
@andyhauser93272 жыл бұрын
Hey Tactacam! Let's work out a deal!
@steveturner528710 ай бұрын
Those damn suzi rigging grommets 🤦🏻♂️ and spot on with merc trim troubleshooting 🤯🤣
@ronniejohnson3781 Жыл бұрын
Suzuki all day long! Love my df25a
@Straight_Kash2 жыл бұрын
Can you do videos for dummies like me on the basics of motors. Like literally what everything is, what it does, what to look for, how to maintain, all that kind of stuff? I’m a new boat owner and know very limited amount about boats in general, especially outboards. I know cars well but I would love to learn more about boats and motors from you! Just an idea! Love the channel!
@mikeolson71882 жыл бұрын
Got my Hat yesterday Guys,thank you I like it Alot.
@TeamMarineService2 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻 Awesome Mike! Glad ya like it
@dariusking29272 жыл бұрын
I would take the Suzuki every time don’t give a flying F - - k how fast something goes it’s about the fishing and turn the key and go 😂😂 good show Andy
@daniellaurent26622 жыл бұрын
That’s pretty awesome Jim Wells calling you back. Hey may miss your call and it may take him a longer than a day or so to call you back. But Jim is going to call you back and help you out any way he can. Always does for me. And he don’t mind talking to ya. Very good guy.
@newsooner11558 ай бұрын
Hey Andy! I have a 1988 Skeeter Sk2000 with a 200 murc 2 stroke! The boat is in great shape. I found out today I can put a brand new Mercury 200 Pro xs on it ,plug and play ready to go! Cheaper than a new aluminum bass boat I was looking at! I'm going with the new Mercury
@RCAston16 ай бұрын
Have the suzuki ss 200 it is the quietest idle motor i’ve ever had perfect for fishing and a beautiful sound when running and fuel economy is even better it is the best motor i’ve ever run
@charlesmayberry3302 жыл бұрын
My 200 mercury lad down after 23 years now she’s almost rebuild
@devondvorak75002 жыл бұрын
I got a 200 merc on my vexus 2080 and I love it
@kevinloper6551 Жыл бұрын
LIVE CAM! That would be sweet
@toddsmith34182 жыл бұрын
Live cam! Most definitely
@jamestriplett55602 жыл бұрын
Definitely yes to the live cam!
@Vintage-406Ай бұрын
If Suzuki could and the other brands could just make an outboard attractive their sales would double! That’s half the reason people choose mercury. They look so much better in the back. In all sizes
@rejaproudmore52062 жыл бұрын
Yes livecam
@danscholes91322 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest comparison. 👍 Suzuki would be great if they got the performance up.
@bobbertee5945 Жыл бұрын
I agree, but sometimes they will deliver more performance at the cost of quality, and that, isn’t worth it
@mike1970ist2 жыл бұрын
Yes please add live cams to the shop that would be awesome!
@alphacapo2 жыл бұрын
Elaborate on performance? Top end? Bottom end? What are the boats they work and don't work on? Is it a prop issue? Gear ratio issue?
@danlaur79732 жыл бұрын
Go Black!!
@TeamMarineService2 жыл бұрын
Big Black goes Back to Fond Du Lac? Haha jk
@teter1292 ай бұрын
I thought Mercury was 100% Ford motor Co. But I recently learned some the Mercury (inboards) are GM made. Is it the same for outboards?
@TeamMarineService2 ай бұрын
Ford had a sister brand called Mercury but that was totally different from Mercury marine. Merc used GM sourced engines for their inboards. Outboards are all Mercury marine made
@joshp61993 ай бұрын
That V8 power/speed plus the dealer network means I would choose Mercury every time.
@jasonspandet60582 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on some smaller motors like 60hp to 115hp
@mikesampson5567 Жыл бұрын
Suzuki or Yamaha outboard motor is better don't care about horse power reliable & dependable. Just scribe to your channel great advice u give 💯💯💯💯💯
@TeamMarineService Жыл бұрын
We give the tick to Suzuki for reliability but we still believe in Yamaha products. They are rock solid too!
@rodgermerritt80672 жыл бұрын
I agree on that...who knows better than the guy who has to deal with what a engineer came up with... engineers should have to fix stuff for a few years before they try to design it..just saying
@benblazek33052 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity what types of issues are you having dialing the 200 zuk ss in? Anything to do with propping and torque issues on heavier glass hull's? I would imagine the zuk might be a slouch in the torque department because of those missing glory holes that other brands have in the 200 segment that generate gobs of torque... Just thinking out loud, but very curious.
@jnicks8052 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly the issue. It’s performance ratings stated under a specific load. Depending on application they’re both great. If your needs align with the Suzuki and you have a good dealer in your area. It wins In specific conditions. If the closest authorized Suzuki repair center is 1.5 hours away, get the merc! Another thing, I’d rather have Japanese than American made for any salt water application (not brackish), but salt, mercury has a strong corrosion warranty now, but it’s hard to prove up and actually get work covered (hell they call mercs anchors for a reason) Suzuki and Yamaha are designed with salt in mind.
@rejaproudmore52062 жыл бұрын
200 hp mercury pro xs came with my new boat, so….I will use that for now.
@avidwaterfowler7522 Жыл бұрын
Has mercury ever been a reliable option? I remember as a kid in the early 90’s fishing Sandy Hook NJ and always noticed mercury powered boats broken down. Even when I’m on the water today, I see lots of older motors but very few of them are Mercury.
@TeamMarineService Жыл бұрын
The old Merc 2 stroke 25 hp was probably the most reliable outboard ever made. They made some good ones back in the day
@jaredpowell4108 Жыл бұрын
Super reliable, there's just way more of them.
@bassfishingchadhill Жыл бұрын
Great information!
@kirkreusch57042 жыл бұрын
First time I’ve ever seen the background so empty. Go break something on your boat people, keep Team Marine busy! Lol. Great video. Live cam 👌
@Everarmed892 жыл бұрын
I have a Covid built 200 Pro XS… wish me luck!! 🤣
@TeamMarineService2 жыл бұрын
Good luck buddy! 👍🏻👍🏻
@Everarmed892 жыл бұрын
@@TeamMarineService at least I have an Ultrex to get me back to the launch!
@benblazek33052 жыл бұрын
@@Everarmed89 ur double f**ked 🤣
@rejaproudmore52062 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too Ever…
@justinpacilio1004 Жыл бұрын
Nothing beats the mercs start up
@B_MacFishing Жыл бұрын
Dang right
@victorjuarez38112 жыл бұрын
Merc for sure I have a 200
@davidrathel6118 Жыл бұрын
LIVE CAM!!!!!!😀
@richshackelford57932 жыл бұрын
Great video, hell yes on the live cams
@jimmyunangst54972 жыл бұрын
I will be happy to keep my Mercury over the Suzuki. I just can’t handle being boat #36 and getting passed by boat #55 in the first 1/4 mile. And I did buy the 8 year warranty on my Mercury and won’t even have the boat that long.
@TeamMarineService2 жыл бұрын
Haha get that Suzuki propped by someone who knows what they're doing then that won't happen!
@jimmyunangst54972 жыл бұрын
@@TeamMarineService or buy a Mercury with the factory prop and it won’t happen…LOL
@jaredkyzer67762 жыл бұрын
Put the 200 xs v8 on my 05 519vx. Performs well and so far no issues, unless I just jinxed myself. 😁
@warrencottonoutdoorscrappi70702 жыл бұрын
What's your top speed?
@jaredkyzer67762 жыл бұрын
@@warrencottonoutdoorscrappi7070 69-70 with just me. 67 loaded and two people.
@markbols31282 жыл бұрын
Brand battle hydrolic steering!!!!!!
@jessemccoy16612 жыл бұрын
Impressive "karate chop!" Hope you could get out of bed the next day. 🤣 Great video! Always appreciated the HONEST reviews.
@whoneycu2 жыл бұрын
2022 Nitro Z18 Pro 150 Mercury Pro XS - 4 stroke #NiTROBOATS #goboldly
@burneraccount92532 жыл бұрын
Mercury has unmatched performance period! Fastest outboard from the landing to the service shop!!! 🤣🤣🤣 The V8 platform is riddled with problems. Junk! I'll take the slow Suzuki instead
@yellowladdermedia91012 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 Best comment ever!!!
@andyhauser93272 жыл бұрын
Hahaha YES!!!
@TeamMarineService2 жыл бұрын
OMFG!!! Great comment! Email us your address and we are gonna send you a hat for that! 🤣
@marctrottier82322 жыл бұрын
LOL poor mercury !
@kentuckyblugrass2 жыл бұрын
😆👊🏻
@douglasschmidt68732 жыл бұрын
Team Marine reality show please
@timschreiber15842 жыл бұрын
Yes if they had a 225 for my Stratos I would haven went that way! Put a 225 Mercury on mine so far so good 110 hrs !
@oceanventure Жыл бұрын
I tend to lean on the old school side. Less is more. Suzuki wins for me.
@hydro_rebel7741 Жыл бұрын
2 things, 1. How reliable are the mercs? Looking at a new boat and merc is really the only option. 2. You said suzuki 200 was the most reliable, what about yamaha or honda?
@timroyall65132 жыл бұрын
Never owned a Suzuki. But a local pro in my area (Brandon Card) runs one on a Vexus and of course he loves it. It does look bad ass too! Great video Andy! Just curious Andy. Does the Pepsi machine in the background actually work, and do you provide your workers with free sodas while on the job?
@TeamMarineService2 жыл бұрын
Pepsi machine does work and it's free soda for all employees and of course our loyal customers! 👍🏻
@timroyall65132 жыл бұрын
@@TeamMarineService Wow, what a great boss!
@samgaither7932 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the gpg graphs of the motors @ cruise speeds and WOT. The 4 stroke 150 merc would run 5-7 mpg at 30 depending on load. If the Suzuki is better it might be my. pick
@flapjackcity12122 жыл бұрын
There’s a video of Yamaha 250 and Suzuki 250 ss outboard side by side on the water ! How about u do a reaction to the video !
@TeamMarineService2 жыл бұрын
We've seen that video. In our opinion the rig with the Suzuki is not set up properly or propped correctly. Would be a good video for us though! 👍🏻
@glenncharnogursk66472 жыл бұрын
Love the brand battles. Thumbs up to a live cam 📷. Keep them coming
@joeb75082 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! I really enjoyed this review. I speak motorhead!
@jeffkasper4841 Жыл бұрын
Thinking about repowering my 06 stratos 294 xl with a 200ss suzuki. What's your thoughts on this?
@moisesheredia2597Ай бұрын
Correct on paper! Not on the 🌊 lol
@Pitchpullin52 жыл бұрын
Now I have an idea what boat you guys will be stocking in the fall.....maybe....
@nickdavis67332 ай бұрын
Which motor would be better for a 22ft deep hull boat cuddy cabin walk around. We really want mercury. With 200hp being max
@nickdavis67332 ай бұрын
All the way around doesn’t have to be these two just looking for a good outboard as we are buying new looking for performance and reliability.
@djwfishing5872 Жыл бұрын
What are your suggestions for prop for the 200 SS on a 19’5 javelin. Just installed a bobs action Jack plate and made sure I’m WOT right now I’m on a stock 19p Suzuki prop which doesn’t have near my speed I was getting out of my 175 Fitch. Which was 65 at WOT before she blew 😂 hoping to get more speed than 65 with 25 more hp
@TheJonesn Жыл бұрын
😂 no way....mercury wins every category
@TeamMarineService Жыл бұрын
Sure doesn't win in reliability
@geneborowsky3031 Жыл бұрын
Yeah put in them live cams or GoPro whatever that camera is talking about where we can see what's going on do it just do it
@kevinvaughan2570 Жыл бұрын
Is true that the 150,175 & 200 Suzuki's all have the same block? Just different tuning.
@TeamMarineService Жыл бұрын
Yes
@jaredjones91132 ай бұрын
What boats do you thing a Suzuki works best on and worst on?
@OutdoorsintheMitten2 жыл бұрын
I must have missed a video, what are the issues with the 200 zukis on different boats performance wise? Is it props? Or is it motor height adjustment? I guess i would think if you took 2 exact boats, and threw the 200 zukis on them they would both perform the same. But... maybe i missed that video.
@Growbrojay2 жыл бұрын
Mercury definitely looks a hell of alot better than Suzuki lmao.
@TeamMarineService2 жыл бұрын
Idkkkkk
@impartialinterest Жыл бұрын
so the Mercury is 214kg where as the suzuki is ~282kg. That is a big difference, surprised weight wasn't discussed.
@andrewhensen86382 жыл бұрын
How about the best motor for a tiller boat? Also curious what boats Suzuki doesn’t work on?
@TeamMarineService2 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea Andrew
@smallmouthcity2 жыл бұрын
Live cam so we can see how much you really love Nitro 😂
@pennysgarageАй бұрын
Need live cams
@visualkeirockstar2 жыл бұрын
I have a Mercury 115 pro xs and it’s slow. I’m hoping to get it remounted so I can put a bigger prop and get the right rpm.
@dang55532 жыл бұрын
Here’s a question for everyone. I see the V6 comments the 200 should be a V6. Well if one engine has a 3.81x3.81 In-line that’s Zuki bore n stroke. Now you make a whole new small V6 3.38x3.28 in a V6 is 176CI about about what the current I4 is. How is this going to run better. Is it engine gearing skeg length that hinders the current 200SS. I’ve never played with one
@TeamMarineService2 жыл бұрын
It's the gear ratio of the current 200 SS that hinders it. People want the 4.0L 250 SS in a detuned 200 hp version
@dang55532 жыл бұрын
578 pounds for the 250SS off Suzuki website. 518 pounds for the current 200SS. Detuned 250 would be heavy.Maybe a 3.0 V6 150-200.
@derikwebster4652 жыл бұрын
So which boats are the Suzukis not working on? 1993 - 190 Champ?? Or just do a video on which motors to upgrade on the Champ models. I know lots of guys doing restorations and repowers..
@crankinbass57582 жыл бұрын
Live cam would be so cool.
@hutchmay7924 Жыл бұрын
How would the Suzuki DF200 do on a 2002 22' Seaswirl Striper cuddy cabin with a factory hard top? which would you recommend and what kind of mpg would i get out of either? ( I know either will better mpg than the original 150 Evinrude FICHT Ram injection that came with the boat). btw the 2002 FICHT still running strong.
@alvinsmith45892 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the 300/350 Suzuki Vs 300/350 Mercury
@victorjuarez38112 жыл бұрын
Good video 👍
@TeamMarineService2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@adamcogswell68362 жыл бұрын
Plus Suzuki is quieter. Suzuki all the way. I'm certified in both. I use Suzuki and love it!
@TeamMarineService2 жыл бұрын
Listen to Adam everyone! #truth
@travisrummel146011 ай бұрын
Looking to put a new 175/200 Mercury or Suzuki on my 92 Champ. It's a 20ft boat and had a 175xri Mercury which just blew up. Thoughts on which motor I should go with.....Thanks
@NytronX2 жыл бұрын
The only option for a 200hp outboard is a Yamaha. It's a detuned 335hp motor, a simple ECU flash or swap and you can get 300hp or more.
@outyxt800 Жыл бұрын
Love the video, good job. I have a question. I purchased a Weldcraft 240 Cuddy king with a Suzuki 300. Loaded for fishing I can only hit 5650rpm. Engine wot it 5700 - 6300. I’m running Suzuki 3x16x17 pitch. I can’t find a prop lower in stainless anywhere. Power tech makes a LSF4 4 blade 15, 16 and 17pitch. Should I do 4 blade or find after market prop? 16” dia I don’t have much options. Pretty screwed here
@travisbarr5367 Жыл бұрын
There aren't any dealers where I live for anything but yamaha and mercury. I would be open to buying a Honda or Suzuki but if I have to drive a long ways to get serviced I will not buy one. I wish Johnson outboards were still in business. I love my 1998 150hp. It has been the best LG HP motor I have ever owned it has always been super reliable and parts are cheap and available. When it comes time to upgrade I'm either going with a 200 pro xs or a 200 sho unless another dealer around where I live starts selling another brand then ill take a look at it.
@davidhahn1672 жыл бұрын
How about a 250 Suzuki, Yamaha & Honda comparison?
@shaunhalfacre66062 жыл бұрын
Could you guys do a top 5 fish and ski boats!?
@plattcody78802 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on a 200 Suzuki 200 on a 198 champ? That’s about the only option at this point for a 4 stroke?
@bryonsturch2813 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2018 200 optimax on my prov bass xs 1875 and I’m looking to repower it as my warranty is up next year. I had to replace the power head at 100 hours as it decided to grenade and blew some holes in the block. I have almost 100 hours on the new power head and I’m nervous. I kept hearing Suzuki and I’m interested to know if you have put one on a pro v bass successfully or should I just put a merc pro xs back on it?
@jasonrutherfordbassfishing2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t super impressed with my 150SS performance either. Spent a lot of time and money playing around to get more out of it and it just never happened. Reliability was just simply outstanding though. My new rig has a 250SS and it’s awesome. Too bad Mercury reliability isn’t what it used to be. Speed, Money, No Breaks!
@frankgreen893 Жыл бұрын
Hey Andy love the videos. After watching several I decided to upgrade to a Suzuki 150 on my 89 ranger 365v. Currently running a quicksilver 16548A40 23p laser II cause that's what I had. Bumping the rev limiter at 50. Any suggestions on a better prop choice? Thanks Frank
@jaredpowell4108 Жыл бұрын
Try a trophy or raker 3 in 24" if you think you're close in pitch
@Dbars192 жыл бұрын
there are just so many Mercury dealers and there is always a shop close by in the north. HOWEVER, i have to drive 1hr 30min+ to have my Yamahas looked at.....