BRAND BATTLE! MERCURY 200 PRO XS vs. SUZUKI 200 SS (WOW!!)

[@TeamMarineService]

Mercury 200 or Suzuki 200? Which outboard are you picking?

[@benblazek3305]

Yamaha VMAX sho 200. Plus another $1200 gets ya a 250hp tune...

[@maddgoatee9708]

If I was racing or a tournament fisher all day Mercury. But for every day fishing and just cruising with the family I would pick the Suzuki, reliability, warranty and cost.

[@mathutson8360]

The one in stock 😆

[@benblazek3305]

@@maddgoatee9708 if the only choices on the market were zuk and merc, I would have a zuk over a merc all day. Grew up in Wisconsin and drove by the merc plant in fon du lac every weekend as a kid omw north to my grandparents lake house, and still wouldn't buy one 🤣

[@benblazek3305]

@@mathutson8360 that's been making decisions a lot easier to make the last couple years 🤣

[@mediaspeedfilms1334]

I agree with ya Andy! Suzuki needs a v6 200 and a v6 225 ASAP

[@TeamMarineService]

They definitely do! We have told them that time and time again. Still nothing

[@benblazek3305]

Right! That's why my overall choice in this segment would be the 200 VMAX Yammy and their legendary reliability. Same engine as the 250hp VMAX, so it's going to last longer than the 250 as long as the oil is kept up with

[@jinmengyo5163]

@@TeamMarineService The Suzuki DF 6-cylinder 200 and 225 have existed in Japan for some time, but are they not sold in the USA?

[@teammarinetv7326]

Team Marine TV checking in!

[@TeamMarineService]

Hello friend!

[@turboss08]

Rockin the 200 ProXS 4S on my Z19. 80hrs and no problems yet. Sips gas, sounds awesome and luckily I got the 8 year warranty for almost free so at least there's that.

[@craigkellam1580]

Do you have the plume of smoke on startup?

[@turboss08]

@@craigkellam1580 I did initially if I left it trimmed down for quite a while but after I changed the oil myself, I do not. The correct fill level is the 2nd ball on the dipstick. Anything more is technically overfilled and you'll get the smoke occasionally. Learned this from one of the best Mercury mechanics in the country over on BBC Forums.

[@jasonrainer4372]

I have a 200 Pro XS on 1880 MS Angler . Love the performance.

[@BassFishingFanaticTV]

I’ve ran Mercury for last 15 years, 2 stroke optimax until 2014 ran great never any issues, 2014 150 pro xs until 2022 no issues, now a 200 Merc pro xs on my Ranger z518. Runs great very happy with the 4 stroke so far. To be fair I’ve never owned a Suzuki and all my boats have been outfitted with Merc. So I’m going with the track record I’ve experienced. Mercury for me but I’m sure the Suzuki is a quality motor.

[@TeamMarineService]

Hey fair enough buddy! Glad you're having good luck with those Mercs! 👍🏻

[@BassFishingFanaticTV]

@@TeamMarineService me too! Can’t afford to have something break!!

[@lawman8877]

All the categories mercury won are the important ones....performance, dealer support, prop choice all the main reasons to pick an outboard

[@TeamMarineService]

Reliability is the #1 reason to buy

[@lipsnatcher7483]

Do a review of the Mercury 150 Pro XS 4 Stroke vs the Suzuki 150 SS vs the Yamaha 150 SHO

[@edwardabrahamiii3742]

Yup I want to see it

[@rickthompsom3680]

I have a 200 Mercury....I am absolutely blown away with the fuel economy I'm getting compared to what I got outta my old 175 fast strike.... especially with the heat and humidity down here in Florida

[@TeamMarineService]

Oh no doubt Rick, those fast strikes were thirsty SOB's

[@Irishmule169]

2022 ProXS 200 on the BassCat P2. Runs outstanding not to many 250s can keep up with it..

[@stgraves260]

I remember when the 200 HP Optima Max and Skeeter and Ranger boats were the best. In the earls 80s my family was camping out at Lake Worth Lake in Texas. They had a race out there and like 20 boats lined up all at once and held on to a road. My dad got laughed at when he pulled up to the starting line with a 140 Suzuki strapped on to his Thunderbolt bass boat. He got clocked at 92 MPH. If I remember correctly the second fastest boat was clock at 73 MPH. The race didn’t even look real. Dads boat was a 16’ Thunderbolt with a 10” jack plate and this fin he designed. My step mom worked at a air craft company and one of the engineers made the fin out of Air craft aluminum instead of steal. With the steel fin dads boat would go mid 70s. After the fin was made out of the aircraft aluminum is when it could hit the upper 80s. Back then the speed O on boats were only 65 - 75 MPH. Dad kept breaking his. He got tired of replacing it. It was clocked on Lake Granbury and Lake Worth and 92 mph was the fastest it’s ever been clocked at. After the boat was clocked at 92, he eventually ported and polished the heads and jetted the carbs. He drilled out the oil injectors on the cam to keep the engine cool. The boat was never clocked after the mods. Don’t know how many hours were on the motor but the motor now sit at the bottom of Lake Granbury. Dad and I we’re flying down the lake one early morning and we were WFO as he would say and we seen this motor beside us. The water was smooth as glass. That was the most scariest boat ride we have ever been on in our entire lives. Man that motor sounded so good. Sure miss my dad. We had some great times together. Best times ever were on the lake. Except this one time. LoL!!!

[@realestateinvestmentresult3723]

Awesome video Andy! Get this guy some live shop cameras

[@TeamMarineService]

Thanks buddy!!!

[@satine1slave]

Performance means nothing when it's in the shop. I'll take reliability over performance. The amount of money it costs for a new motor is devastating to most households.. If I could afford a new one it would be the 5 year warranty and reliability of the Suzuki.

[@andrewagius3114]

All the major brand out boards are good today they build very reliable

[@TeamMarineService]

For the most part yes we agree

[@tomvancil8213]

Let’s see that 115 brand battle 🙌

[@larryastle8813]

On my small bass boat I have been running a Suzuki DT25 c since 95 what a work horse

[@andyhauser9327]

Hey Tactacam! Let's work out a deal!

[@steveturner5287]

Those damn suzi rigging grommets 🤦🏻‍♂️ and spot on with merc trim troubleshooting 🤯🤣

[@ronniejohnson3781]

Suzuki all day long! Love my df25a

[@Straight_Kash]

Can you do videos for dummies like me on the basics of motors. Like literally what everything is, what it does, what to look for, how to maintain, all that kind of stuff? I’m a new boat owner and know very limited amount about boats in general, especially outboards. I know cars well but I would love to learn more about boats and motors from you! Just an idea! Love the channel!

[@mikeolson7188]

Got my Hat yesterday Guys,thank you I like it Alot.

[@TeamMarineService]

👍🏻👍🏻 Awesome Mike! Glad ya like it

[@dariusking2927]

I would take the Suzuki every time don’t give a flying F - - k how fast something goes it’s about the fishing and turn the key and go 😂😂 good show Andy

[@daniellaurent2662]

That’s pretty awesome Jim Wells calling you back. Hey may miss your call and it may take him a longer than a day or so to call you back. But Jim is going to call you back and help you out any way he can. Always does for me. And he don’t mind talking to ya. Very good guy.

[@newsooner1155]

Hey Andy! I have a 1988 Skeeter Sk2000 with a 200 murc 2 stroke! The boat is in great shape. I found out today I can put a brand new Mercury 200 Pro xs on it ,plug and play ready to go! Cheaper than a new aluminum bass boat I was looking at! I'm going with the new Mercury

[@RCAston1]

Have the suzuki ss 200 it is the quietest idle motor i’ve ever had perfect for fishing and a beautiful sound when running and fuel economy is even better it is the best motor i’ve ever run

[@charlesmayberry330]

My 200 mercury lad down after 23 years now she’s almost rebuild

[@devondvorak7500]

I got a 200 merc on my vexus 2080 and I love it

[@kevinloper6551]

LIVE CAM! That would be sweet

[@toddsmith3418]

Live cam! Most definitely

[@jamestriplett5560]

Definitely yes to the live cam!

[@Vintage-406]

If Suzuki could and the other brands could just make an outboard attractive their sales would double! That’s half the reason people choose mercury. They look so much better in the back. In all sizes

[@rejaproudmore5206]

Yes livecam

[@danscholes9132]

Thanks for the honest comparison. 👍 Suzuki would be great if they got the performance up.

[@bobbertee5945]

I agree, but sometimes they will deliver more performance at the cost of quality, and that, isn’t worth it

[@mike1970ist]

Yes please add live cams to the shop that would be awesome!

[@alphacapo]

Elaborate on performance? Top end? Bottom end? What are the boats they work and don't work on? Is it a prop issue? Gear ratio issue?

[@danlaur7973]

Go Black!!

[@TeamMarineService]

Big Black goes Back to Fond Du Lac? Haha jk

[@teter129]

I thought Mercury was 100% Ford motor Co. But I recently learned some the Mercury (inboards) are GM made. Is it the same for outboards?

[@TeamMarineService]

Ford had a sister brand called Mercury but that was totally different from Mercury marine. Merc used GM sourced engines for their inboards. Outboards are all Mercury marine made

[@joshp6199]

That V8 power/speed plus the dealer network means I would choose Mercury every time.

[@jasonspandet6058]

Can you do a video on some smaller motors like 60hp to 115hp

[@mikesampson5567]

Suzuki or Yamaha outboard motor is better don't care about horse power reliable & dependable. Just scribe to your channel great advice u give 💯💯💯💯💯

[@TeamMarineService]

We give the tick to Suzuki for reliability but we still believe in Yamaha products. They are rock solid too!

[@rodgermerritt8067]

I agree on that...who knows better than the guy who has to deal with what a engineer came up with... engineers should have to fix stuff for a few years before they try to design it..just saying

[@benblazek3305]

Out of curiosity what types of issues are you having dialing the 200 zuk ss in? Anything to do with propping and torque issues on heavier glass hull's? I would imagine the zuk might be a slouch in the torque department because of those missing glory holes that other brands have in the 200 segment that generate gobs of torque... Just thinking out loud, but very curious.

[@jnicks805]

That’s exactly the issue. It’s performance ratings stated under a specific load. Depending on application they’re both great. If your needs align with the Suzuki and you have a good dealer in your area. It wins In specific conditions. If the closest authorized Suzuki repair center is 1.5 hours away, get the merc! Another thing, I’d rather have Japanese than American made for any salt water application (not brackish), but salt, mercury has a strong corrosion warranty now, but it’s hard to prove up and actually get work covered (hell they call mercs anchors for a reason) Suzuki and Yamaha are designed with salt in mind.

[@rejaproudmore5206]

200 hp mercury pro xs came with my new boat, so….I will use that for now.

[@avidwaterfowler7522]

Has mercury ever been a reliable option? I remember as a kid in the early 90’s fishing Sandy Hook NJ and always noticed mercury powered boats broken down. Even when I’m on the water today, I see lots of older motors but very few of them are Mercury.

[@TeamMarineService]

The old Merc 2 stroke 25 hp was probably the most reliable outboard ever made. They made some good ones back in the day

[@jaredpowell4108]

Super reliable, there's just way more of them.

[@bassfishingchadhill]

Great information!

[@kirkreusch5704]

First time I’ve ever seen the background so empty. Go break something on your boat people, keep Team Marine busy! Lol. Great video. Live cam 👌

[@Everarmed89]

I have a Covid built 200 Pro XS… wish me luck!! 🤣

[@TeamMarineService]

Good luck buddy! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@Everarmed89]

@@TeamMarineService at least I have an Ultrex to get me back to the launch!

[@benblazek3305]

@@Everarmed89 ur double f**ked 🤣

[@rejaproudmore5206]

Yeah me too Ever…

[@justinpacilio1004]

Nothing beats the mercs start up

[@B_MacFishing]

Dang right

[@victorjuarez3811]

Merc for sure I have a 200

[@davidrathel6118]

LIVE CAM!!!!!!😀

[@richshackelford5793]

Great video, hell yes on the live cams

[@jimmyunangst5497]

I will be happy to keep my Mercury over the Suzuki. I just can’t handle being boat #36 and getting passed by boat #55 in the first 1/4 mile. And I did buy the 8 year warranty on my Mercury and won’t even have the boat that long.

[@TeamMarineService]

Haha get that Suzuki propped by someone who knows what they're doing then that won't happen!

[@jimmyunangst5497]

@@TeamMarineService or buy a Mercury with the factory prop and it won’t happen…LOL

[@jaredkyzer6776]

Put the 200 xs v8 on my 05 519vx. Performs well and so far no issues, unless I just jinxed myself. 😁

[@warrencottonoutdoorscrappi7070]

What's your top speed?

[@jaredkyzer6776]

@@warrencottonoutdoorscrappi7070 69-70 with just me. 67 loaded and two people.

[@markbols3128]

Brand battle hydrolic steering!!!!!!

[@jessemccoy1661]

Impressive "karate chop!" Hope you could get out of bed the next day. 🤣 Great video! Always appreciated the HONEST reviews.

[@whoneycu]

2022 Nitro Z18 Pro 150 Mercury Pro XS - 4 stroke #NiTROBOATS #goboldly

[@burneraccount9253]

Mercury has unmatched performance period! Fastest outboard from the landing to the service shop!!! 🤣🤣🤣 The V8 platform is riddled with problems. Junk! I'll take the slow Suzuki instead

[@yellowladdermedia9101]

🤣🤣🤣 Best comment ever!!!

[@andyhauser9327]

Hahaha YES!!!

[@TeamMarineService]

OMFG!!! Great comment! Email us your address and we are gonna send you a hat for that! 🤣

[@marctrottier8232]

LOL poor mercury !

[@kentuckyblugrass]

😆👊🏻

[@douglasschmidt6873]

Team Marine reality show please

[@timschreiber1584]

Yes if they had a 225 for my Stratos I would haven went that way! Put a 225 Mercury on mine so far so good 110 hrs !

[@oceanventure]

I tend to lean on the old school side. Less is more. Suzuki wins for me.

[@hydro_rebel7741]

2 things, 1. How reliable are the mercs? Looking at a new boat and merc is really the only option. 2. You said suzuki 200 was the most reliable, what about yamaha or honda?

[@timroyall6513]

Never owned a Suzuki. But a local pro in my area (Brandon Card) runs one on a Vexus and of course he loves it. It does look bad ass too! Great video Andy! Just curious Andy. Does the Pepsi machine in the background actually work, and do you provide your workers with free sodas while on the job?

[@TeamMarineService]

Pepsi machine does work and it's free soda for all employees and of course our loyal customers! 👍🏻

[@timroyall6513]

@@TeamMarineService Wow, what a great boss!

[@samgaither793]

I would like to see the gpg graphs of the motors @ cruise speeds and WOT. The 4 stroke 150 merc would run 5-7 mpg at 30 depending on load. If the Suzuki is better it might be my. pick

[@flapjackcity1212]

There’s a video of Yamaha 250 and Suzuki 250 ss outboard side by side on the water ! How about u do a reaction to the video !

[@TeamMarineService]

We've seen that video. In our opinion the rig with the Suzuki is not set up properly or propped correctly. Would be a good video for us though! 👍🏻

[@glenncharnogursk6647]

Love the brand battles. Thumbs up to a live cam 📷. Keep them coming

[@joeb7508]

Subscribed! I really enjoyed this review. I speak motorhead!

[@jeffkasper4841]

Thinking about repowering my 06 stratos 294 xl with a 200ss suzuki. What's your thoughts on this?

[@moisesheredia2597]

Correct on paper! Not on the 🌊 lol

[@Pitchpullin5]

Now I have an idea what boat you guys will be stocking in the fall.....maybe....

[@nickdavis6733]

Which motor would be better for a 22ft deep hull boat cuddy cabin walk around. We really want mercury. With 200hp being max

[@nickdavis6733]

All the way around doesn’t have to be these two just looking for a good outboard as we are buying new looking for performance and reliability.

[@djwfishing5872]

What are your suggestions for prop for the 200 SS on a 19’5 javelin. Just installed a bobs action Jack plate and made sure I’m WOT right now I’m on a stock 19p Suzuki prop which doesn’t have near my speed I was getting out of my 175 Fitch. Which was 65 at WOT before she blew 😂 hoping to get more speed than 65 with 25 more hp

[@TheJonesn]

😂 no way....mercury wins every category

[@TeamMarineService]

Sure doesn't win in reliability

[@geneborowsky3031]

Yeah put in them live cams or GoPro whatever that camera is talking about where we can see what's going on do it just do it

[@kevinvaughan2570]

Is true that the 150,175 & 200 Suzuki's all have the same block? Just different tuning.

[@TeamMarineService]

Yes

[@jaredjones9113]

What boats do you thing a Suzuki works best on and worst on?

[@OutdoorsintheMitten]

I must have missed a video, what are the issues with the 200 zukis on different boats performance wise? Is it props? Or is it motor height adjustment? I guess i would think if you took 2 exact boats, and threw the 200 zukis on them they would both perform the same. But... maybe i missed that video.

[@Growbrojay]

Mercury definitely looks a hell of alot better than Suzuki lmao.

[@TeamMarineService]

Idkkkkk

[@impartialinterest]

so the Mercury is 214kg where as the suzuki is ~282kg. That is a big difference, surprised weight wasn't discussed.

[@andrewhensen8638]

How about the best motor for a tiller boat? Also curious what boats Suzuki doesn’t work on?

[@TeamMarineService]

That's a great idea Andrew

[@smallmouthcity]

Live cam so we can see how much you really love Nitro 😂

[@pennysgarage]

Need live cams

[@visualkeirockstar]

I have a Mercury 115 pro xs and it’s slow. I’m hoping to get it remounted so I can put a bigger prop and get the right rpm.

[@dang5553]

Here’s a question for everyone. I see the V6 comments the 200 should be a V6. Well if one engine has a 3.81x3.81 In-line that’s Zuki bore n stroke. Now you make a whole new small V6 3.38x3.28 in a V6 is 176CI about about what the current I4 is. How is this going to run better. Is it engine gearing skeg length that hinders the current 200SS. I’ve never played with one

[@TeamMarineService]

It's the gear ratio of the current 200 SS that hinders it. People want the 4.0L 250 SS in a detuned 200 hp version

[@dang5553]

578 pounds for the 250SS off Suzuki website. 518 pounds for the current 200SS. Detuned 250 would be heavy.Maybe a 3.0 V6 150-200.

[@derikwebster465]

So which boats are the Suzukis not working on? 1993 - 190 Champ?? Or just do a video on which motors to upgrade on the Champ models. I know lots of guys doing restorations and repowers..

[@crankinbass5758]

Live cam would be so cool.

[@hutchmay7924]

How would the Suzuki DF200 do on a 2002 22' Seaswirl Striper cuddy cabin with a factory hard top? which would you recommend and what kind of mpg would i get out of either? ( I know either will better mpg than the original 150 Evinrude FICHT Ram injection that came with the boat). btw the 2002 FICHT still running strong.

[@alvinsmith4589]

What do you think about the 300/350 Suzuki Vs 300/350 Mercury

[@victorjuarez3811]

Good video 👍

[@TeamMarineService]

Thanks 👍

[@adamcogswell6836]

Plus Suzuki is quieter. Suzuki all the way. I'm certified in both. I use Suzuki and love it!

[@TeamMarineService]

Listen to Adam everyone! #truth

[@travisrummel1460]

Looking to put a new 175/200 Mercury or Suzuki on my 92 Champ. It's a 20ft boat and had a 175xri Mercury which just blew up. Thoughts on which motor I should go with.....Thanks

[@NytronX]

The only option for a 200hp outboard is a Yamaha. It's a detuned 335hp motor, a simple ECU flash or swap and you can get 300hp or more.

[@outyxt800]

Love the video, good job. I have a question. I purchased a Weldcraft 240 Cuddy king with a Suzuki 300. Loaded for fishing I can only hit 5650rpm. Engine wot it 5700 - 6300. I’m running Suzuki 3x16x17 pitch. I can’t find a prop lower in stainless anywhere. Power tech makes a LSF4 4 blade 15, 16 and 17pitch. Should I do 4 blade or find after market prop? 16” dia I don’t have much options. Pretty screwed here

[@travisbarr5367]

There aren't any dealers where I live for anything but yamaha and mercury. I would be open to buying a Honda or Suzuki but if I have to drive a long ways to get serviced I will not buy one. I wish Johnson outboards were still in business. I love my 1998 150hp. It has been the best LG HP motor I have ever owned it has always been super reliable and parts are cheap and available. When it comes time to upgrade I'm either going with a 200 pro xs or a 200 sho unless another dealer around where I live starts selling another brand then ill take a look at it.

[@davidhahn167]

How about a 250 Suzuki, Yamaha & Honda comparison?

[@shaunhalfacre6606]

Could you guys do a top 5 fish and ski boats!?

[@plattcody7880]

Thoughts on a 200 Suzuki 200 on a 198 champ? That’s about the only option at this point for a 4 stroke?

[@bryonsturch2813]

I have a 2018 200 optimax on my prov bass xs 1875 and I’m looking to repower it as my warranty is up next year. I had to replace the power head at 100 hours as it decided to grenade and blew some holes in the block. I have almost 100 hours on the new power head and I’m nervous. I kept hearing Suzuki and I’m interested to know if you have put one on a pro v bass successfully or should I just put a merc pro xs back on it?

[@jasonrutherfordbassfishing]

Wasn’t super impressed with my 150SS performance either. Spent a lot of time and money playing around to get more out of it and it just never happened. Reliability was just simply outstanding though. My new rig has a 250SS and it’s awesome. Too bad Mercury reliability isn’t what it used to be. Speed, Money, No Breaks!

[@frankgreen893]

Hey Andy love the videos. After watching several I decided to upgrade to a Suzuki 150 on my 89 ranger 365v. Currently running a quicksilver 16548A40 23p laser II cause that's what I had. Bumping the rev limiter at 50. Any suggestions on a better prop choice? Thanks Frank

[@jaredpowell4108]

Try a trophy or raker 3 in 24" if you think you're close in pitch

[@Dbars19]

there are just so many Mercury dealers and there is always a shop close by in the north. HOWEVER, i have to drive 1hr 30min+ to have my Yamahas looked at.....