Brandel Chamblee's Stupid 180 on LIV Golf Merger

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Thinking Man Show

Thinking Man Show

6 ай бұрын

Brandel Chamblee does a complete, and stupid, 180 on LIV Golf. Why is Brandel selling out to his "enemy" LIV? The reason is comical....
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@davis120610
@davis120610 6 ай бұрын
Australia (Adelaide) was the biggest LIV tournament last year and will be by far the most popular next year. Why? Because we are starving to see the best golfers once a year since the PGA tour introduced the wrap around season. Chamblee’s rants about greed against LIV and the players they’re recruited is the height of hypocrisy. I have zero sympathy for the PGA tour and will be completely shocked if they strike an agreement by December 31st as their arrogance cannot be underestimated.
@Macattack11639
@Macattack11639 4 ай бұрын
They just struck a deal. With a different investor. SSG. $3 billion. Whoopsie. Apparently the PIF isn’t the only people with money. Thinking Man, you there. LIV can play for billions in front of nobody. Speith when asked what is the urgency to get a deal with PIF. He said NO URGENCY. What for? We found another investor. It’s called LEVERAGE. Isn’t that what you said big guy? Waiting on your reaction to the SSG deal but after you pick your face out of the eggs let us know your take. One more logical question. Who’s to say Ludwig Avery isn’t the next Jon Rahm? Nick Dunlap isn’t the next Phil Mickelson? Who was Phil before he won tournaments? A college kid. Like Nick Dunlap. I rest my case.
@stashburner
@stashburner 6 ай бұрын
You guys are spot on with your analysis. As a life long golf superintendent who worked around 30 tour events, 50 years in the business, I had a lot critical analysis about the tour. I love what LIV what has done.
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
You go Stash! Love to superintendents. Keep it brown and fast!
@billmoyer3254
@billmoyer3254 6 ай бұрын
Brandel painted himself into a career killing corner.
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
Hi Bill..........agreed. Now trying to extricate (or excavate).
@billmoyer3254
@billmoyer3254 6 ай бұрын
I'm actually enjoying that Brandel is now driving in the commuter lane to irrelevance. @@ThinkingManShow
@guyh.4121
@guyh.4121 6 ай бұрын
One Must Have a career before one can destroy it.
@Mike.A.
@Mike.A. 6 ай бұрын
@@ThinkingManShow he also needs to evacuate (the buildup within) 😉
@iangodsell9073
@iangodsell9073 5 ай бұрын
Hey, he won ONE tour event; so close to being a legend (in his own mind).@@guyh.4121
@michaelcoughlin8238
@michaelcoughlin8238 6 ай бұрын
If the Golf Channel lived up to its name, and Brandel got over his anger issues, they could do themselves a service by speaking about ALL golf and not putting themselves in an either/or position.
@stryderja9570
@stryderja9570 6 ай бұрын
I think what pushed Rahm over the edge was the destruction of the DPWT by PGA Tour in my view.
@danielfranzen9511
@danielfranzen9511 6 ай бұрын
Yes, I think people forget/don't know/don't care that the PGAT basically destroyed the DPWT and European golf as a standalone entity.
@stryderja9570
@stryderja9570 6 ай бұрын
@danielfranzen9511 I can't help but feel that a lot was discussed by the Europeans at the Ryder Cup. That plus the leaks that revealed the true opinion of the PGA Tour about the DPWT and the intent to acquire the Euro share of the Ryder Cup was a serious slap in the face.
@andrewstuart199
@andrewstuart199 6 ай бұрын
love it, you guys have called it all the way. it's like you are 3 steps ahead of PGA and Brandel. 😃 nice work
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
Appreciate that Andrew. We’ll keep at it.
@This_Old_Man_68
@This_Old_Man_68 6 ай бұрын
10 years from now. Sports Commentators will be saying that Phil Mickelson changed the game of golf for the better and he is an innovative thinker.
@gregbiggs7564
@gregbiggs7564 6 ай бұрын
Exactly……he was right all along ⛳️⛳️
@pauljcross2289
@pauljcross2289 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely.....and the whole golfing world should understand how the PGAT's strategy over the last decade or so has been to destroy other global tours and make them feeder tours for US tour, so that the US tour has a monopoly over top line pro golf...it was wrong, and karma has prevailed....LIV will own the 50% of golf fans outside of the US
@Noeau
@Noeau 6 ай бұрын
Yes but no one from the Golf Channel.
@NoIwont
@NoIwont 6 ай бұрын
Gambler gots a vision...phil took a massive risk, character attack. Good to see the PGAtour beginning seeing the light and phil being vindicated. Onwerds... #noballchange 😅
@rbslammed6163
@rbslammed6163 Ай бұрын
What did Phil have to do with what Norman did?
@hassaman5
@hassaman5 6 ай бұрын
Darkstar summed up Brandel so well. You guys are always on point.
@elvis_maldonado
@elvis_maldonado 6 ай бұрын
I’ve called him out since day one. 😂 He came out with all his holier than thou attitude. That’s when I stopped supporting Golf channel.
@Noeau
@Noeau 6 ай бұрын
Chamblee’s relevance is waning. When the pga and Liv eventually merge and somewhat coexist, TV golf analysts and reporters will have to be objective. That’s when Chamblee’s time will end because he cannot suddenly be objective or will come across as a phony and a hypocrite. The networks will look bad employing someone like that. So he and others like him, like Damon Hack, Shane Bacon and Eamon Lynch will be history. In fact Golf Today, Golf Central and Golf Network were all Liv haters so curious to see what happens there.
@coobay4786
@coobay4786 6 ай бұрын
Hope so
@michaelburnside1084
@michaelburnside1084 6 ай бұрын
Don’t forget about Rich Lerner.
@Noeau
@Noeau 6 ай бұрын
@@michaelburnside1084 there’s a whole bunch of them.
@rickproctor6693
@rickproctor6693 6 ай бұрын
Please never stop bashing on him. We love it. He even said Rahm threw away his career.
@andreastusch2526
@andreastusch2526 6 ай бұрын
Gents you are spot on….as usual, thanx for your work
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
Much appreciated Andreas!
@GeneralEdwinWalker90
@GeneralEdwinWalker90 6 ай бұрын
After what he said at the start of all this, If they do merge I see The Shark 🦈 telling him to clear his desk & saying “bye bye”
@russelldaye9813
@russelldaye9813 6 ай бұрын
GeneralEdwinWalker90 He's as good as gone, and Jay Monahan will be given their walking papers. The minute this deal is done, and it will be done, all of those who bad mouthed Phil, DJ, Greg etc. will have egg on their face, and that's you Freddie, Rory, and anyone else who tried their very best to character assassinate, and demonize those players that went to LIV. There was so much spewed by men, that I thought knew better, but they were so arrogant, and self righteous, they now know you don't tell the Money men of this world, how they go about their business. ⛳️⛳️⛳️
@coobay4786
@coobay4786 6 ай бұрын
Hope so
@guyh.4121
@guyh.4121 6 ай бұрын
When you step outside your swing analyzing forte into pontificating on the machinations of the big business of Golf you end up hitting shank after shank, after shank. Long Live LIV.
@thevinsk
@thevinsk 6 ай бұрын
I somewhat feel this is what fans of LIV have done. I’ve enjoyed watching golf all my life. All the majors, the historical finishes, etc. But I’ve never cared about the ‘behind the scenes’ political and business end of it. Everyone knows the LIV format is pretty silly. Shotgun starts, 54 holes, no cut….boring. But LIV fans have gotten so wrapped up in the business side they’ve lost any desire to watch good golf anymore. They just want to see the PGAT beaten. I don’t really get it.
@SiLoMixMaster
@SiLoMixMaster 6 ай бұрын
@@thevinsk 'Everyone knows the LIV format is pretty silly. Shotgun starts, 54 holes, no cut….boring' FYI the PGA Tour and other tours and normal golf clubs have been using all of those mentioned for decades. Shotgun starts have been around since the 50's, majors used to be less than 54 holes like the PGA which was 36 holes until the late 50's. No cuts to this day get used for events on the PGA Tour like recently at the Hero Challenge organised by Tiger Woods. LIV just put them all together and made it exciting and less time consuming to watch for golf fans. LIV Adelaide was the most exciting golf tournament of 2023 outside of the Ryder Cup.
@thevinsk
@thevinsk 6 ай бұрын
@@SiLoMixMaster Yes, I get that. But the traditional tournament format has a much bigger presence. You don’t get many PGAT with shotgun starts. And what the PGAT did 50 years ago isn’t a very good argument. If you’re saying you’ve never enjoyed golf until LIV, I get that I guess, but the ratings certainly show otherwise. Shotgun starts and the same players every time is a better format to you? What’s the excitement of seeing the leader finish on hole number 7, a bland par 3? And I also want to state you’re the first who’s argued a preference for the LIV format. Others only talk about the politics and the money, which was my original point.
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Vinsk. Unfortunately for all of us, the PGAT made the LIV league about money and politics from day 1. They thought that would work to kill of a rival that was driving up money paid to players. We are for the players and for competition which is a starting point to maybe finding a way to keep pro golf from declining with current viewer demographics. It’s no easy task for either tour alone or together.
@jackreacher3499
@jackreacher3499 6 ай бұрын
About time you guys called Brandel out, I always thought his comments on the game and players were stupid AF. He has absolutely no idea what he is talking about, which is surprising for an ex player.
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
Love Jack Reacher. Thx JR. Brandel lost his mind somewhere back 3-4 years ago. True.
@sicxdgixxd6326
@sicxdgixxd6326 6 ай бұрын
If I ever got the chance to spend 5 minutes in a room with Brandie he would not ever be seen again I hate him
@blehoo1
@blehoo1 6 ай бұрын
Dr Dark Star is absolutely spot on here re the Euro/DP tour being swallowed by the PGA and how European golfers are 2nd class there. This was exactly what Seve used to rail against so much back in the day. The irony that LIV are now doing exactly the same to the PGA tour is not lost.
@pravirseeripat8014
@pravirseeripat8014 6 ай бұрын
If we never hear from Brandel Chumplee ever again, it will be too soon!
@pwaveqrs1
@pwaveqrs1 6 ай бұрын
“Let’s Go Brandel!”
@Diogenes-ty9yy
@Diogenes-ty9yy 6 ай бұрын
Hey, Brandel ! don't go away mad, just go away. 🤣🤣🤣
@user-nl4sn9xo5z
@user-nl4sn9xo5z 6 ай бұрын
Love your analysis, but in terms of the deal going through…I have to say no because the PIF could have saved themselves a half billion by not signing Rahm if the deal was to combine all three tours. They are going to go with the private equity people who will be just as demanding as PIF when it comes to decision making policies that Monaghan tries to push through…he really does need to be shown the door
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
Thx NL4. PIF is a teddy bear investor compared to PE. With an electron microscope PE will tear into that $1.9B in annual expenses the PGAT is showing.
@Toffinater
@Toffinater 6 ай бұрын
I think the secrecy of the deal, the schedule demands put on him, treatment of his compatriots, denigration of the European Tour, and the sheer size of that one-off offer. All contributed to Rahm’s move.
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
In that order Toff. Well stated.
@pauljcross2289
@pauljcross2289 5 ай бұрын
Whilst US golf media will never discuss it, the Europeans know the PGAT has worked hard to destroy the Euro tour....Rahm could see it
@dirtyoffroader2093
@dirtyoffroader2093 6 ай бұрын
100% agree guys, but also when Wells Fargo jumped ship, Brandel realised he was standing on the deck of the sinking vessel.. called the PGA. 😂😂
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 6 ай бұрын
Maybe LIV can hier him and dress him up, literally, as a court jester.
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 6 ай бұрын
The PGA and those behind the scenes screwed up big time!
@MM-zb9kc
@MM-zb9kc 6 ай бұрын
Would be hilarious if PIF would purchase the Golf Channel and force Brandel to now talk up LIV.
@pwaveqrs1
@pwaveqrs1 6 ай бұрын
That is the best idea I’ve heard!
@Diogenes-ty9yy
@Diogenes-ty9yy 6 ай бұрын
Even better, if he had to wear a clown suit and makeup to more accurately reflect his personality. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@Thegolfingoldman
@Thegolfingoldman 6 ай бұрын
Would be even funnier if they bought the rest of American sport ,,,
@This_Old_Man_68
@This_Old_Man_68 6 ай бұрын
Once again President Trump has been proven CORRECT!
@keyjam9
@keyjam9 6 ай бұрын
About what?
@billbuyshouses7077
@billbuyshouses7077 6 ай бұрын
PGA and US are both basically bankrupt!
@russelldaye9813
@russelldaye9813 6 ай бұрын
Darkstar, you are spot on about the Spaniards making the DP tour what it was before the PGA tour treated them like they were secondary to them. Jon Rahm is a must see needle mover. Anyway my belief has been, and it always will be if you have Supreme talent, and play an individual sport like golf, you should be able to play on any tour, that has elite talent to try and measure that talent against the best. Money, is secondary to the very elite that win Major titles, money is there, because its called "Professional Golf" and thats the kind of large money the tours were taking in, and not sharing it properly with the players who make your Tour what it is financially. Excellent episode, you two are "thinkers", LOL 🍁⛳️⛳️⛳️🍁
@pauljcross2289
@pauljcross2289 6 ай бұрын
PGAT killed the Euro tour...and Rahm understands it....
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 6 ай бұрын
Dissolve LIV! He really said that? LOL
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
He did say “dissolve”. Fantasy island.
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 6 ай бұрын
@@ThinkingManShow I see it! "The Plaaaane! The Plaaane!" I remember Fantasy Island.
@This_Old_Man_68
@This_Old_Man_68 6 ай бұрын
The LIV PGA GOLF agreement is going to happen. There won't be any financial penalties for LIV golfers. There are only 2 PGA tournaments that are in conflict with the LIV GOLF schedule in 2024. There are 6 PGA tournaments that will be extremely difficult to get to after LIV GOLF tournaments. There are 22 PGA tournaments that LIV golfers can play in without scheduling conflict. The agreement will happen on or before the 31st. Rory has left the PGA TOUR board because he can't be part of this agreement to let the LIV GOLF players back without that financial penalty. The agreement is going to happen the golfers are going to play in both tours. No penalties, no problems.
@pauljcross2289
@pauljcross2289 6 ай бұрын
What happens if LIV players refuse to play in PGAT events? The corrupt OWGR board resigns or gets sued
@user-ru3hg9dn5u
@user-ru3hg9dn5u 6 ай бұрын
PGA loyalists/traditionalist are all closed minded. Not thinking out of the box. Slow to change or don’t want to change. Rahm made a $300+ million decision for himself and family. LIV haters like Chamblee, Rory, Golf Channel, NLU, etc don’t see the big picture. It’s like poker the one all in with the most chips eventually make pga fold.
@tybo9
@tybo9 6 ай бұрын
I know this is not on topic. But I have a question about the ball roll back. Since LIV is not associated with the tour, do they have to conform to the new ball? LIV is about excitement and crushing the ball. Why change?
@Tigersmundo
@Tigersmundo 6 ай бұрын
*Spot ON!*
@jhawker2895
@jhawker2895 6 ай бұрын
Get J.M to take his foot off the sports networks and allow LIV to make a major TV deal and bring their product to a average TV sports watchers ...The PGA Tour need to part ways with J.M.. He has lost the trust of the members and it's time for him to move on from the PGA Tour... Bye Jay ...
@w1ldwesty
@w1ldwesty 6 ай бұрын
Great impartial analysis again guys. Its good to hear the PGA\LIV situation being looked at from a business perspective rather than by sports broadcasters who clearly have no idea how this world works. I honestly can't make up my mind about Brandel. On one hand I can't beleive someone is that stupid, then I think is he just doing it to be controvesial to get attention. The more I hear from him I think the former is more likley. Keep up the great work.
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
Thx W. He’s not lacking IQ points. And yes definitely any publicity is good for ratings. Seems to us though that he believes in his spiel on Saudi choosing to ignore global realities and who is on who’s side. That deserves scorn. Can Brandel imagine a world where Saudi was anti West (Iran, Russia, China, N. Korea)? That would be a vastly different global experience.
@robertschissler1236
@robertschissler1236 5 ай бұрын
Trust your instincts BC is arrogant and a stupid and a hypocrite
@jsiemering68
@jsiemering68 2 ай бұрын
The Golf Channel is like watching cable news just one sided. Brandel is not the only one on the Golf Channel who just hates on the LIV Tour everyday. What turned me off was how much hate was sent towards the LIV players from the PGA side.
@SiLoMixMaster
@SiLoMixMaster 6 ай бұрын
It will be interesting to see who gets voted player of the year now, should clearly be Rahm but because he's joined LIV no doubt they'll give it to Scheffler now despite not winning a major or being able to hole a putt inside 6 feet consistently all year.....and of course being made to cry at the Ryder Cup. As for Brandel and Rory, those 2 are dangerously stupid, I expect more cringeworthy actions from them when Tony Finau and others leave to join LIV golf next.
@Marky_Muk
@Marky_Muk 6 ай бұрын
Wells Fargo LIV Adelaide
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 6 ай бұрын
Much of this, on the surface, has been Jay vs Greg Norman. Not much of a contest there. Like putting up an amateur boxer against a top professional boxer. Gee! I wonder who will win that fight? Of course we don't hear from Jay anymore, do we?
@angelmatos9143
@angelmatos9143 6 ай бұрын
This happens with people who are ALWAYS right. 😂
@rickproctor6693
@rickproctor6693 6 ай бұрын
Yassir told Price and Dunne that removing Norman was not going to happen!!! Period! Notice that the subject was never brought up again.
@Diogenes-ty9yy
@Diogenes-ty9yy 6 ай бұрын
Mr. Al Rumayyan's wallet has unlimited cash and when he talks, the others listen. Price and Dunne obviously know their places in the pecking order.
@jimlangdon1947
@jimlangdon1947 6 ай бұрын
Why is Brandel still on TV after his years of negativity?
@peedee-zo1yq
@peedee-zo1yq 2 ай бұрын
So Chamblee takes a little something in his back pocket....
@dpg0jod
@dpg0jod 6 ай бұрын
Wasn’t it Rory that browbeat the DP Tour to drop their Ryder Cup prohibition against European LIV players, paving the way for Rahm to move? Is the Ryder Cup more important to McIlroy than the PGA Tour?
@Thegolfingoldman
@Thegolfingoldman 6 ай бұрын
Never heard a whisper from you guys until Phil ran out of cash … give me a break!
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
Phil ran out of cash? The oldest Major winner ever ran out of cash. Funny.
@richarddavenport1838
@richarddavenport1838 6 ай бұрын
If you're an elite golfer with Major exemption surely you go to LIV... its a no brainer unless your Rory and Tiger... can't help thinking Thomas and Spieth are wanting it but wished they'd done it sooner as they have no leverage now !
@gerrymcintosh4477
@gerrymcintosh4477 6 ай бұрын
Jon seems to leverage quite nicely
@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656
@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656 6 ай бұрын
While there were other reasons rahm left for LIv, the most important one for the pga tour to remember is the half billion. Regardless of other motivating factors, in any professional situation most people will usually take the option with a lot more money. All the guilt tripping campaign nonsense can slow the inevitable, but that’s all it can do. At one point Monahan and the pga tour could have gotten a bunch of money and still kept most of the power, despite everyone knowing the money is where the power is. But by now it is illogical to see that crazy scenario that Monahan and the Tour would be allowed to control everything while pif just gives them money so Yassir can hang out. Keep in mind many pga tour players are actively calling for Monahans job. But somehow he will control everything ? The pga tour brass and their talking heads lacking logic is where we can always come together in agreement here.
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Oahu.
@markanderson8006
@markanderson8006 5 ай бұрын
When Yassir and Jay sat down in that press conference wasn’t apart of the agreement was that Jay would be the new CEO of LIV isn’t that like making Hitler the new head of Jewish colony in Poland/Germany. I reckon Yassir would scrap LIV in a heartbeat if he got a seat at the table. PIF is worth $660bn I think they can afford a loss of $3.5Bn . I’m 100% agree with Chamblee and I’m not even much a fan of his. I’m an European tour fan I hate what PGA tour have screwed European golfer. PGA tour have had a monopoly on golf for years. I wish Rory would join LIV I honestly believe Cantlay and co don’t want to do a deal with LiV they would prefer do deal with Fenway Sports.
@bkashford13
@bkashford13 6 ай бұрын
He’s leaving IBM of the 80s for a young startup company named Apple!
@higbyprigby9648
@higbyprigby9648 6 ай бұрын
I’m learning how to talk in circles. Logically.
@MrHobbs-lm8jn
@MrHobbs-lm8jn 6 ай бұрын
Brandel has always been a TOAD boy for the PGA. Even worse is the amount of money Monahan is getting paid and his little buddies in the tour Exec suit. As more info is made public this continues to errode support for the PGA Tour. The level of mismanagement is epic and there will be a revolt by the players in the near future
@danielfranzen9511
@danielfranzen9511 6 ай бұрын
Everyone has principles, these days, until their jobs depend on denouncing them.
@steverogers7381
@steverogers7381 6 ай бұрын
Every sports league has had this happen MLB had the Federal League, NBA had the ABA, NFL had the AFL, etc....They eventually found a way to merge to form a better sport. PGA is too dumb to see the opportunity. They want to stick to tradition. Tradition is giving them a declining, aging fan base.
@bobbys4327
@bobbys4327 6 ай бұрын
tradition for pgat is taking ALL the money for themselves
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
Steve, Bobby. True.
@stryderja9570
@stryderja9570 6 ай бұрын
PGA Tour looks more like NASCAR
@Mike-id7bh
@Mike-id7bh 6 ай бұрын
It's a head in the sand type of attitude. I am constantly amazed when people on the PGA side keep saying it's all about the money. This is not true IMO. It's stops them looking and fixing their own problems.
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 6 ай бұрын
Rahm leaving for LIV is a huge Christmas present to the PGA and those movers and shakers behind the scenes. I suspect those controlling things behind the scenes may have been a little disingenuous with LIV. Here, guys, take this. And more, top PGA players are leaving soon. Whistle when you have had enough, if you mouths are not too dry!
@raindogred
@raindogred 6 ай бұрын
I had to google brandel, but I don't think he needs to be worrying about PIF/LIV/PGA..I think the biggest existential crisis for a guy who earns a living mostly on legacy media i.e cable tv etc. I think figures are something like a TV gets only used 50% of the time on TV channels, the other 50 must be youtube. netflix, Amazon prime, apple tv etc. We see this reflected in golf channel ratings and the need for a cash injection to the PGA...the days of big network tv money is over, or on the way out. I don't think its a golf popularity issue either..just a change in the way people view sports...Legacy media needs to change the model, give it away free on youtube (or part of it), or lease out to sports streaming app for a much cheaper price..get the views up and advertise more..people can pay a premium sub to avoid ads...give the people what they want basically, and stop being so goddamn gready with their monthly subscription fee...accept reality, get a smaller chunk of the screen time pie. I don't think Liv are any more clued into this...al they seem to say is if we get a tv deal then we will become profitable..doubt it, run by too many old guys like us who grew up glued to the box...they know they need social media, but still haven't figured out exactly how to utilise it to its fullest.people have too many monthly outgoing for entertainment...cable tv is going to be left off the list. Guys like Brandel need to diversify if he wants to stay relevant...I'd say he realises that..thats why he shows up on podcasts a lot these days..hes all over youtube from my 5 minutes looking into the guy.
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
Well said Rain.
@ltbanner2804
@ltbanner2804 6 ай бұрын
As much as I don’t like Brandel personally I admit he’s a very good golf analyst. Except he completely looses it on LIV. It’s like an alter ego.
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
Truth in that ITbanner. “Live From” 10 years ago and earlier was the best show on broadcast television.
@keyjam9
@keyjam9 6 ай бұрын
So who do you two work for?
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Key. What do you mean?
@user-bd7px7cl7l
@user-bd7px7cl7l 6 ай бұрын
If you grow up on a driving range you cannot make a smart comment. Those guys don’t live in the real world of hard working people going to work every morning
@TheRuffusMD
@TheRuffusMD 5 ай бұрын
according to deals that just went down the pgat is worth 100 billion
@PennyPincherCoins
@PennyPincherCoins 6 ай бұрын
i still say its gonna be NO deal,,,Liv do NOT need the PGA, the PGA needs Liv as we see the players going to LIV, thank you guys for keeping it real in your streams!
@leifstrong
@leifstrong 6 ай бұрын
Brazzle-Shampoo has been Bonkers for 3 years .. the Commish and Brazzle both are in LA LA Land.
@robertlunn3678
@robertlunn3678 4 ай бұрын
Brandeis is and remains so above your heads it’s scary. I just pray it’s contrived. At least you tried. What do you know about deals. I caught those remarks and they’re are idiotic.
@rooste42r
@rooste42r 6 ай бұрын
he left for more money. Now who's being stupid? lol
@This_Old_Man_68
@This_Old_Man_68 6 ай бұрын
Jon Rahm made this move to LIV GOLF well knowing that within the next year he and every golfer in LIV GOLF would be playing back on the PGA TOUR without any financial penalties.
@robertschissler1236
@robertschissler1236 6 ай бұрын
LIV future of world golf much larger audience than PGA which will become a feeder tour
@steveyates1136
@steveyates1136 6 ай бұрын
That ain't happening Bill. Unless the PGA suddenly gets a huge infusion of cash, and I don't see that happening. They should have listened to Phil. They could have earned generational wealth.
@MrBigtonybologna
@MrBigtonybologna 5 ай бұрын
Jay has 2go Yo
@ChrisVanLennep
@ChrisVanLennep 6 ай бұрын
MonaH's gravy train Is everyone Blind. Players See .
@jhawker2895
@jhawker2895 6 ай бұрын
B.C. has been stupid for his whole Golf Channel time.. He is one of the guys you want to buy him for what he is worth, then sell him for what he thinks he is worth ... Retire on the profit ... DUH B.C.
@pauljcross2289
@pauljcross2289 6 ай бұрын
PIF should buy the GC and fire Shamblee
@learnefarrar8489
@learnefarrar8489 6 ай бұрын
...he's a MAJOR "brown noser" so he maintains his job...Bramble is an absolute KNOB...😏
@Diogenes-ty9yy
@Diogenes-ty9yy 6 ай бұрын
I prefer to refer to Brandel as a "douche nozzle."
@jfritzy4358
@jfritzy4358 6 ай бұрын
Chamblee was hired to provide on air golf commentary and likely expected by his employers to be a little abrasive and contrarian. He seldom brought any real insight, more frequently opinion based on implied inside knowledge. How many times did Chamblee, and his compatriots, hype a player to be the next PGA star. Yes, they had to make golf on TV more interesting to watch. Chamblee, Monahan, and others lost me with moralizing rants demonizing the Saudis and elevating the PGA to heights of claimed moral superiority. Quickly wondered how does the PGA consider a business relationship with China OK, but one with the PIF bad? Make no mistake, Saudi Arabia has problems - but so does China. If Chamblee, Monahan, or anybody else wants to claim the moral high ground be consistent in all things. Saudi money invested in the PGA is bad because of Human Rights violations, 911, Kashogi murder, etc. OK, stop putting Saudi oil in your car. Stop supporting anything Saudi. Demonizing the Saudis in the worst possible way . . . . and then flipping 180 to take PIF money to save the PGA is morally bankrupt. The reality is "business is business" so the PGA has work with LIV and PIF, also making sure that the PGA leadership is well compensated with a pile of dough. Can't wait to see how your average PGA Pro will be rewarded for loyalty.
@schlyer
@schlyer 6 ай бұрын
What happens if there is a geopolitical event involving the Saudi's before the deal gets done, or a year after its done. Assume something like the Jamal Khashoggi murder. Does that change anything in your view?
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Schlyer. The House of Saud has chosen the West since the beginning 100 years ago. Thankfully. And thanks to the Brits. Iran is Saudi’s enemy and also sits on massive oil reserves. There is a reason Saudi is a top US ally. Stable energy flow and prices. Think Japan, Korea and Taiwan for starters - they import all their energy.
@sfkid57
@sfkid57 6 ай бұрын
Brandel is just a angry X golfer , who was never very good at golf.
@melvinsilver2674
@melvinsilver2674 6 ай бұрын
Brandel's mama always told him, "Life is like a box of chocolate."
@user-kr7vv5nv4r
@user-kr7vv5nv4r 6 ай бұрын
Yeah chamblee does have an inflated idea of his own intelligence. Tries to impress with vocabulary, but it’s forced. He’s no genius.
@allahalibaba9063
@allahalibaba9063 5 ай бұрын
Very interesting news...Fact or fiction, or bias opinion who can really say...As long as the majors stay with the format they have had for years, I will be a Happy Camper...Majors control them selfs is OK with Me...
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 5 ай бұрын
Agreed. We would strongly prefer the Majors each had their own qualifying system.
@fusemunk
@fusemunk 6 ай бұрын
I live in Scotland and watch the DP World Tour and PGA tour and LPGA. The Thursday, Friday coverage is a big yawn - only good for an afternoon nap. The weekend coverage is also dull, continually interrupted by commercials - the DP World tour has become mainly no names that I don't care about and to some extent so has the PGA Tour. The PGA tour they talk legacy and then called the tournament Joe's Mattresses when years ago it was the Greater Greensboro, no one knows what the tournament's history is. 2024 we have ZoZo something, so I don't. now don't get the legacy bit - legacy is now 4 majors (not PGA tour), Players Championship and Fedex Cup.
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
True
@rooste42r
@rooste42r 6 ай бұрын
i don't agree with Brandel on everything but i don't think he's stupid
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
He’s not a stupid man, but he has been thinking stupid things; in abundance.
@perryseehoe590
@perryseehoe590 6 ай бұрын
Piv needs owgr .... not the pga so in reality its offering to help for both international reputation and the points but it also knows that if the pga wont play ball it can simply keep buying players and eventually owgr will become irrelevant as all majors will dissapear without liv players. Every player they loose kills their partnership value enormously.
@jimzanios3260
@jimzanios3260 6 ай бұрын
Come on Brandel Saudi????
@dougtroutman5311
@dougtroutman5311 6 ай бұрын
its not good for everybody to have a state run golf league
@bobbys4327
@bobbys4327 6 ай бұрын
or a dicktater run tour
@fusemunk
@fusemunk 6 ай бұрын
Dark Star - you're comment "LIV created viable competitive tour" - not sure I'd agree. I watch LIV golf with the other 10 guys and enjoy it - however the elephant in the room, is that JR and the guys play but no one watching, so that needs to be addressed before I fully see a way forward for LIV.
@bobbys4327
@bobbys4327 6 ай бұрын
how do you know no one is watching? That is what you pgat lovers want, but it ain't happening!
@fusemunk
@fusemunk 6 ай бұрын
I'm pro LIV thats why I watch. On KZbin it shows the number of people watching. Have you been wathing?@@bobbys4327
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
Thx Fuse. Golf is in trouble on all fronts due to demographics in the golf countries. We talk about it a lot as you know. No easy solution for PGAT or LIV. We like two rival leagues under one leadership.
@jimmerhardy
@jimmerhardy 6 ай бұрын
Not putting the money first for Rahm's LIV move is kidding yourself. It's the huge payday, then everything else, whatever makes you feel good.
@landahoy5217
@landahoy5217 6 ай бұрын
🤪
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
Jimmer - you could come up with 10 things you wouldn’t do or trade for $300M. Might take you all of one minute to pencil that out.
@Leftylobber
@Leftylobber 6 ай бұрын
The PGA Tour is so corrupt that Kennesaw Mountain-Landis smiles in his grave (MLB racist psycopath)
@gerrymcintosh4477
@gerrymcintosh4477 6 ай бұрын
If you can’t beat em, joint em. Brandel is a genius and the best at his job. Maybe he should join LIV?
@Diogenes-ty9yy
@Diogenes-ty9yy 6 ай бұрын
After all the anti-LIV bile he has spewed, there's no way that will happen without him looking like the biggest hypocrite/a$$clown that ever lived (no pun intended.) But, maybe the LIV could hire Brandel...and put him in a pillory at tournaments where we could throw rotten eggs or other trash at him for entertainment. Like "HIT THE DOUCHEBAG AND WIN A PRIZE!"🤣🤣🤣
@mike5173
@mike5173 5 ай бұрын
Brandel I’ve always thought he was a horrible commentator unless u were tiger
@katking6820
@katking6820 6 ай бұрын
Ok I totally disagree with Brandel but he absolutely should be in Johnny Millers chair as a protagonist commentator.I’m not saying he has Millers knowledge obviously! He does have just enough hutzpah to bash people like Rory at the moment he hits a shot that makes it appear like he’s an idiot. I believe Brandel is a special kind of narcissist!
@scruffy8861
@scruffy8861 6 ай бұрын
LIV isn't about sports.
@seanmawson6286
@seanmawson6286 6 ай бұрын
Last time I looked it looks a lot like the sport of golf just a bit different that's fine the world is changing and dinosaurs like you get left behind bye-bye
@scruffy8861
@scruffy8861 6 ай бұрын
It's a means to gain legitimacy and deflect attention from controversy over Saudi Arabia's human rights record and its impact on the environment, a practice known as sportswashing.@@seanmawson6286
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
Scruff - if Saudi is sportswashing in your view, that would mean they care about their reputation and standing in the free world. Thank God for that. While Saudi is spending billions on Western sports, Iran is spending billions trying to build a nuclear weapon.
@rooste42r
@rooste42r 6 ай бұрын
Phil doesn't get everything right , believe me
@Sueezedtight
@Sueezedtight 3 ай бұрын
Gee, "pro" golfers accepting more money to play less golf? What a concept! Maybe the PGA tour should go amateur? They are already pretty amateurish...
@scoopmendenhall1008
@scoopmendenhall1008 5 ай бұрын
He is been bought off I really never liked him
@spencer2365
@spencer2365 6 ай бұрын
Here is one indisputable fact, more Americans will watch Tiger and his son play golf in a tournament that doesn’t mean anything, than will watch any liv event this season.
@matthewmp111
@matthewmp111 6 ай бұрын
Is America the world though? Why bring up such a specific metric?
@spencer2365
@spencer2365 6 ай бұрын
We have the biggest markets for television viewing, that’s why. Views brings advertisers and advertisers bring revenue.
@matthewmp111
@matthewmp111 6 ай бұрын
@@spencer2365 No one watches a regular PGA event either so… LIV understands that the only growth in professional golf will come from other parts of the world
@ThinkingManShow
@ThinkingManShow 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Spencer. Problem is that ad tv revenue model is dead because broadcast tv is dead. Cable subscribers in America are hemorrhaging customers as loyal paying viewers pass away in massive older age group (baby boomers). Inevitable as oldest Boomers are now 77 and youngest are 62 - well past family / household formation years when people buy things.
@landahoy5217
@landahoy5217 6 ай бұрын
@@spencer2365sorry my friend day late dollar short.
@stefanomaniscalchi4983
@stefanomaniscalchi4983 5 ай бұрын
this guy is a joke !
@jimmerhardy
@jimmerhardy 6 ай бұрын
Pay-to-play doesn't work with the TOUR model. LIV will survive but will remain an exhibition segment of any TOUR partnership. Real competition will continue to define the PGAT with LIV big money becoming an aspiration outside the seasonal TOUR lineup. LIV and the TOUR doesn't work on par.
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