22 Times The Saturn Beat The PlayStation

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@RedRanger2001
@RedRanger2001 2 жыл бұрын
I think the American PS1 version of Silhouette Mirage needs a Gameshark...
@chumpyman
@chumpyman 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Soviet strike wasn't on the list. The Sega version was more polished with graphical enchantments and 3d analogue pad support.
@edwest2263
@edwest2263 3 жыл бұрын
also supports the flight stick quite a hard game though
@richardc.mongler1029
@richardc.mongler1029 Жыл бұрын
>complaining about duke nukems humour >complaining about how the engine for powerSLAVE is named SLAVEdriver Common Brit L
@Bransfiiiield
@Bransfiiiield Жыл бұрын
BORE OFF NERD, I'M GOING BASEJUMPING YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE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@fossilfern
@fossilfern 3 ай бұрын
Also called Duke sexist lol.
@richardc.mongler1029
@richardc.mongler1029 3 ай бұрын
@@fossilfern LMAO wow I forgot about that too
@richardc.mongler1029
@richardc.mongler1029 3 ай бұрын
@@Bransfiiiield le quirkey reply ecks dee
@Hambag2009
@Hambag2009 3 жыл бұрын
I am hands down a Sega boy at heart. My favourite console ever will always be the Mega Drive. After 30 years, i am still playing on one. Ive got no time for modern consoles anymore. This said..i did switch come '97...and got a ps1. The Saturn was overshadowed in the end, and i hate to say it but Sony's console was far better. I ended my love affair with Sony after the Ps2 and PSP, both good platforms. I owned a SNES when i was young, but it quickly disappeared in favor of the Mega Drive which for me i prefered the games. The Saturn is a cool console though, and has some great games.
@Freshbrood
@Freshbrood 2 жыл бұрын
I am only a retro fanboy, but I love all the early consoles equally. Saturn, Dreamcast, PS1, N64, Genesis, Super NES, etc.. so owning a PS classic mini is the absolute perfect console for me. Also with keymapping and save states it fixes many problems that made some older games unplayable.
@sega-re-trop-vieux
@sega-re-trop-vieux 3 жыл бұрын
I love mass destruction. Fun, fast and many secrets. Grandia is a masterpiece with my beloved shining force 3 series and panzer dragoon saga. There is a lot of tactical rpg on the saturn and many unknown ( device reign, funky fantasy, terra phantastica...). Great video 👍
@PixelsLtd
@PixelsLtd 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Buying a 2nd hand Saturn in 1997 I was absolutely astounded by how good Street Fighter Alpha 2 was, and that sent me down an expensive rabbit hole of modding my console and importing XMvsSF, MSHvsSF and Metal Slug. Both Duke Nukem and Quake on the Saturn were breathatking achievements at the time too. I'd add Dead or Alive to the list of 3d games better on the Saturn. Glad to see Mass Destruction here, I enjoy that game way more than I feel I should, but its just so damn fun.
@RetroGamesBoy78
@RetroGamesBoy78 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the Saturn was bombarded with second rate PS ports which made the hardware look bad when using 3D. but when a game was specifically made for Saturn from the ground up, and by developers that knew what they were doing, that's when you got to see what the Saturn was truly capable of. The reason Lobotomy Software decided not to port the Saturn version to the PlayStation was because the PS was incapable of emulating the Saturn version. You also missed out the fact that the PS version has terrible texture warping. The Saturn version is a far more enjoyable experience.
@juststatedtheobvious9633
@juststatedtheobvious9633 3 жыл бұрын
Let's not overlook the real advantage of the Saturn: game stores were so desperate for new games that they'd actually import. And we were so desperate for new games that we'd be forced to actually play all the hidden gems while they were new, instead of the shiny guilty pleasure trash we'd normally be playing. Kind of like how the Vita forced me to fall in love with award winning indie games, despite my best efforts.
@ciredecgellar8232
@ciredecgellar8232 3 жыл бұрын
Considering that the N64 game library is not larger than that of the Saturn and that the import was not very varied either, I imagine the despair of the game store ....
@RetroGamesBoy78
@RetroGamesBoy78 3 жыл бұрын
Although I love the Saturn, the fact that imports were needed to bolster its library was not a plus! The fact that these games were not released in the West was a contribution to its demise.
@AvexFuddle
@AvexFuddle 3 жыл бұрын
At the time I would never have wanted a Saturn over a ps1, but after all this time it’s much nicer thanks to all the arcade stuff.
@thejedisonic67
@thejedisonic67 2 жыл бұрын
Mega Man 8 is another good example. Added content and an improved soundtrack
@largerfire9791
@largerfire9791 3 жыл бұрын
exhumed and associated projects have a great vid "History of Lobotomy Software: Finally Exhumed" which is well worth a watch too
@chickenbites8877
@chickenbites8877 Жыл бұрын
I always felt so smug that my Sega Saturn did a better job at many 2D games than my PlayStation owning friends.
@SawdidSpinx
@SawdidSpinx 3 жыл бұрын
As someone from the UK, one of the best things about the Saturn compared to PS is that all of the UK games were either optimised in some way for 50Hz TVs (mostly the SEGA games) to be full screen or the correct speed, or able to be forced to 60Hz by a modded Saturn. This isn't possible for a UK PS so you either need to import all the games (expensive) or play the gimped UK versions.
@stedarkside1529
@stedarkside1529 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! You get all of the bonus points for the Jim Ross reference 😎
@james2175
@james2175 3 жыл бұрын
You missed Independence Day and Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together. Tactics Ogre had extra voice over that was never available for other consoles, including the PSP remaster. Also, the PS1 version of TO had small loading times during battles, whereas the Saturn version is silky smooth all-around.
@james2175
@james2175 3 жыл бұрын
Also, check out Vandal Hearts. Not sure if it's better on the Saturn, but it's worth finding out for a future episode. Don't bother with Suikoden, THOUGH. It's worse on the Saturn.
@ThoughtformsOfTheSubconsciousM
@ThoughtformsOfTheSubconsciousM 3 жыл бұрын
Very true, plus the Saturn version as was typical runs in a higher resolution displaying more screen real estate than the PS1 version. I would also say the music sounds better personally.
@shoryuken64
@shoryuken64 2 жыл бұрын
it would have helped if the comparisons showed the same level/character or scene.
@timkasansky2528
@timkasansky2528 2 жыл бұрын
there's a lot of stuff removed from the Ps port of Silhouette Mirage mate. But you won't see it playing only the first stage.
@iraplikeyoubreathe
@iraplikeyoubreathe 3 жыл бұрын
I see this video, and clasps fingers together and say "excellent" in a Mr. Burns voice.
@thewingedavenger1007
@thewingedavenger1007 3 жыл бұрын
There's nothing better than a Saturn video on a Saturday!
@WebstersYouTube
@WebstersYouTube 3 жыл бұрын
Aaaaand I just added myself to the Satiator waiting list for a restock.
@ohareport
@ohareport 3 жыл бұрын
ok but seriously how good is the *reasons we won’t go into*, i’ve played it more in the past couple of weeks than the previous few years
@Bransfiiiield
@Bransfiiiield 3 жыл бұрын
It's so good. Simplest and best designed ODE I've ever used.
@StanislaoMoulinsky79
@StanislaoMoulinsky79 3 жыл бұрын
"The King of Fighters 95? The PS1 port paled in comparison to the Saturn port, as you can see." No, no I can't, because the PS1 port has actually very little cuts compared to the arcade version. The worst that you can say about it, graphically, is that your teammates in the background are static.
@Bransfiiiield
@Bransfiiiield 3 жыл бұрын
cut animation and big loading times compared to the Saturn version (which used the ROM cart), but sure focus in on that one
@StanislaoMoulinsky79
@StanislaoMoulinsky79 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bransfiiiield Ehi, it's the only one that's wrong. Of course I'm focusing on that one. XD The amount of cut animation is really low, saying "it pales in comparison, as you can see" is rather excessive. / Nitpick mode off.
@ajmetz82
@ajmetz82 3 жыл бұрын
So awesome to see a proper games journalist looking at the Saturn, =). I love my Saturn, ^_^.
@ajmetz82
@ajmetz82 3 жыл бұрын
The big differences between Grandia on Saturn in 97, and Grandia on PSOne in 99, is that Grandia on Saturn was hyped by all the magazines to be the Final Fantasy VII killer from Sega via developer GameArts. Month after month we read in the games press about how promising it was looking, and how amazing it was going to be - how much GameArts loved the Saturn and knew how to use the hardware to deliver something truly epic. And then Sega shelved it for the west. And worse, we then had hype in the games press about all the additional Grandia Digital Museum discs Japan was getting. When the PSOne port came (so late that I played it on my PS2), we WANTED it to be as good as the Saturn version, because we'd been denied for YEARS, access to an English version, and didn't want to get a subpar port on PSOne just to be able to enjoy one of the Saturn's supposed killer apps, we had been cruelly denied. THANK GOODNESS Sega gave us Panzer Dragoon Saga - that WAS a Final Fantasy VII beater, =D,
@raydenedge4569
@raydenedge4569 3 жыл бұрын
💖
@CornishCreamtea07
@CornishCreamtea07 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information, but would you mind breaking it down into paragraphs please.
@ajmetz82
@ajmetz82 2 жыл бұрын
@@CornishCreamtea07 Good idea! I've gone back and edited the comment, adding some line breaks, =). Hope it helps.
@moomah5929
@moomah5929 Ай бұрын
Them never bringing Saturn Grandia over was the sole reason for me to get a PSX. So many good Saturn games that never made it to the Europe and the west in general... Damn that Sega of America guy! Still, I might love my Saturn even more than my Mega Drive, thanks to games like Shining the Holy Ark, Dragon Force and Guardian Heroes.
@snookers5123
@snookers5123 3 жыл бұрын
The lack of analog controls bring the PS1 port of powerslave down a major notch. The analog triggers really let you be precise with your movements, and it feels natural once you get good at them.
@Freshbrood
@Freshbrood 2 жыл бұрын
Keymapping. I play it on PSclassic with dual analogue.
@snookers5123
@snookers5123 2 жыл бұрын
@@Freshbrood That's not analog movement, you're just mapping digital inputs to the stick. On the saturn, the harder you press down the trigger, the faster you strafe.
@Freshbrood
@Freshbrood 2 жыл бұрын
@@snookers5123 It still VASTLY improves the controls. Not perfect but so much better and more playable.
@TheXBluebirdx
@TheXBluebirdx 3 жыл бұрын
Though (lol) not the same game title, it was Daytona vs Ridge Racer that probably condemned the Saturn to a more low profile existence. Looking back I wish I had picked one up. I was so unaware at the time that Sega's box could slap the Playstation around.
@orderofmagnitude-TPATP
@orderofmagnitude-TPATP 7 ай бұрын
Oh yeah...and theres so much more even if not direct comparison. Go look at last bronx with its ceilings and high resolution compared to tekken 3 as example... looks like a much more powerful console considering how tekken 3 was portrayed as limit pushin. Last bronx supersedes it by quite a margin.
@orderofmagnitude-TPATP
@orderofmagnitude-TPATP 7 ай бұрын
Oh yeah...and theres so much more even if not direct comparison. Go look at last bronx with its ceilings and high resolution compared to tekken 3 as example... looks like a much more powerful console considering how tekken 3 was portrayed as limit pushin. Last bronx supersedes it by quite a margin.
@orderofmagnitude-TPATP
@orderofmagnitude-TPATP 7 ай бұрын
Adore that death tank theme... Kid shouts "yeeeaaahhh" (What i hear each time you upload btw)
@Larry
@Larry 3 жыл бұрын
How did you miss Mortal Kombat II off this list? You did an entire video on it! :D Also, for ST-V ports, Batman Forever: The Arcade Game.
@Bransfiiiield
@Bransfiiiield 3 жыл бұрын
I'm MK'd out. Plus wasn't it just as bad as each other on both platforms?
@MadsterV
@MadsterV 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, you
@orderofmagnitude-TPATP
@orderofmagnitude-TPATP 7 ай бұрын
Edgy one Larry is here too?
@MudSluggerBP
@MudSluggerBP 3 жыл бұрын
Loved Exhumed on Saturn, trouble was it gave me serious motion sickness 🤮
@whatamalike
@whatamalike 3 жыл бұрын
It hurts so good
@niggacity5424
@niggacity5424 3 жыл бұрын
@@whatamalike Come-on baby, make it hurt so good
@stingyringpiece
@stingyringpiece 3 жыл бұрын
thanks mr b, awesome as always
@elsuperfish
@elsuperfish 9 ай бұрын
I think another example of a 3D game being better on Saturn is Baroque (1998) by Sting Entertainment. The game was a Japanese-only release that only received unofficial translations after this video was uploaded. Anyway, the Saturn version has far superior visuals - better lighting and higher resolution sprites. The PS1 port came afterwards, and in the process it also padded out the game's length and added some unnecessary features. For anyone wanting try the game out today, most people will agree the Saturn version is the way to go.
@Bransfiiiield
@Bransfiiiield 9 ай бұрын
Just looked it up, that game looks super cool.
@ColpoRosso
@ColpoRosso 3 жыл бұрын
Exhumed, quake 1 and duke 3d are awesome on the saturn, clear examples of the lie that is the "saturn can't do 3d stuff" claim. Also, "better frame rate on ps1 than on saturn" actual footage shows better frame rate on the saturn than on ps1. And yes, the frame rate on the saturn is higher, there's not much more to say. I don't know how you can say otherwise. Even if on ps1 you can reach 60 fps by staring at a wall, the game is not about staring at walls. Mortal Kombat 2 is much better on saturn too. I SO love the all synth soundtrack on that.
@jamesbarker5535
@jamesbarker5535 3 жыл бұрын
The Saturn had a more consistent frame rate but did suffer drops. The PS1 had a much less stable frame rate although hitting 60 fps was quite an achievement. That said the environments were scaled back on PS1 to allow for this.
@musicvideoenhancer
@musicvideoenhancer Жыл бұрын
We can't forget one thing that automatically is better on saturn than 100% games on Ps1: the controller. Saturn cotroller is a lot better than PS1 controller, that segmented d-pad of Ps1 is a nightmare compared to the soft and responsive d-pad of Saturn, plus the 6 buttons on the face of the controller, the exactly positioning of the arcade buttons. Even the N64 controller have 6 buttons on the face, making it more appropriate for emulating the controls of arcade in fighting games (unfortunately, only Killer Instinct, War Gods and MK Trilogy make use of it).
@RossWyatt
@RossWyatt 3 жыл бұрын
I love that you've got Kane chokeslamming Lesnar as the thumbnail. Oh wow Larry Bundy Jr. commented on your video, you've made it!!!
@fluffizilla
@fluffizilla 3 жыл бұрын
great stuff as always
@captainfyita2682
@captainfyita2682 2 жыл бұрын
Why SOTN in saturn looks and sounds worst than in PS1, tho?
@potatostuffing5643
@potatostuffing5643 2 жыл бұрын
Mainly massive slowdowns. People are putting effort into fixing it's issues though.
@stephandolby
@stephandolby 2 ай бұрын
The PlayStation simulates 2D using 3D, also it supports a horizontal resolution of 256 pixels. The Saturn port wasn't done from the ground up, nor could it leverage the lower resolution simply because it didn't support it. Hence... worse performance.
@skullknight1982
@skullknight1982 7 ай бұрын
Nice review. Question if I may - what is name of the background music starting at : 18:48 (during silhouette mirage review) ?
@jamesbarker5535
@jamesbarker5535 3 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍 I would also nominate Dead or Alive, Dragon Ball Z and Thunderforce V as three more examples of the Saturn outperforming the PS1.
@SNARC15
@SNARC15 3 жыл бұрын
TFV was a masterpiece. And I'll definitely take "the end is now here" over "Fear the Reaper" any day. (God damn you Working Designs.)
@alegomanYTPs
@alegomanYTPs 11 ай бұрын
if every saturn game wasn't 200 quid each i'd have more than 8 games and actually released for pal
@GeordiLaForgery
@GeordiLaForgery 10 ай бұрын
Nice one I'll rewatch from time to time until the dreamcast 2 is released.
@m.jordan5181
@m.jordan5181 9 ай бұрын
Capcom LOVED fiddling with the Saturn's goodies.
@thirdworldrenegade
@thirdworldrenegade 3 жыл бұрын
You have the Alpha 2 footage mixed up. It has the PlayStation logo for the Saturn footage and the Sega Saturn logo for the PlayStation footage. 11:00 is actually the Saturn version and 11:07 is the PlayStation version.
@Bransfiiiield
@Bransfiiiield 3 жыл бұрын
This is correct, good spot. Seems I mixed up the video files when I was labelling them.
@thirdworldrenegade
@thirdworldrenegade 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bransfiiiield These things happen. No big deal.
@attilathehun0
@attilathehun0 2 жыл бұрын
Alien Trilogy is better on the Saturn vs the PlayStation. The port to the PS you have to look for the hidden shoulder light per level and the battery runs out fast.
@orderofmagnitude-TPATP
@orderofmagnitude-TPATP 7 ай бұрын
And the Saturn wasn't even using its other sh2 chip on that one!
@SelfIndulgentGamer
@SelfIndulgentGamer 3 жыл бұрын
A neat video, that probably mirrors a lot of peoples experiences. I.E. shoved in a cupboard due to them owning a PS1 at the time or PC :)
@HamanKarn567
@HamanKarn567 3 жыл бұрын
I loved all those marvel fighting games as a kid. Loved using Cyclops and Caption America.
@opaljk4835
@opaljk4835 Жыл бұрын
I think Thunder Force V looks way better on Saturn, but it doesn’t have some of the cool ps1 extras. It’s mostly the backgrounds, which to me are mesmerizing on the Saturn. That and Terra Diver need a modern rerelease.
@no-wq7gr
@no-wq7gr 2 жыл бұрын
Hey brother, please include a seizure warning. During the Capcom bits
@allan6992
@allan6992 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the Sega Venus. Hahahahahaha. My wife left me.
@10tonhamster
@10tonhamster 3 жыл бұрын
Powerslave was an “Ancient Egyptian” themed Iron Maiden album in 1984, so I guess they wanted some unofficial crossover sales.
@FarmerSlideJoeBob
@FarmerSlideJoeBob 2 жыл бұрын
Just enjoying these Videos😃
@MsTatakai
@MsTatakai Жыл бұрын
rayman saturn is way better than ps1 version... better graphics and sound quality
@DefinitelyReagan
@DefinitelyReagan 3 жыл бұрын
You are criminally underrated as a content creator. You're very fun to listen to and have a delightful voice.
@PaintballMagazine
@PaintballMagazine 3 жыл бұрын
I always got blasted for buying a Saturn over a PlayStation. Finally vindicated... Although I did also persuade a mate to buy an AmigaCD32. I still feel guilty to this day.
@misiek777
@misiek777 2 жыл бұрын
I had saturn and cd32. Hmm it was good time.
@beowulf848
@beowulf848 2 жыл бұрын
One set you forgot were the Lunar games. Saturn versions have better sound, faster loading, faster saving, etc and is hands down better than the PS1 version I played as a kid.
@musicvideoenhancer
@musicvideoenhancer Жыл бұрын
I know it hurts PS fans, but Symphony of the Night is better on Saturn too. Yes, the access to map is easier on PS1, but it's not like you take 1 minute on Saturn, as you got used to it, it doesn't make too much difference. The transparency stuff it's totally irrelevant. What it's relevant, is the fact that you have 3 characters on Saturn, available from the start, and 2 new areas, that while are not the most interesting or important to the game, it's still fun to explore and discover, specially if you have played the Ps1 version a lot. There's slowdowns on Saturn version, but they don't ruin the experience, we're playing with slowdowns since the Snes era.
@ninjacostar3849
@ninjacostar3849 8 ай бұрын
Command and conquer.
@ciredecgellar8232
@ciredecgellar8232 3 жыл бұрын
you can add mechwarriors to your list as well as Baroque, Devil Summoners, World league soccer 98, the very average Courrier crisis (but technically better on Saturn anyway) Macross, Thunder force V etc ....
@costumeninja1914
@costumeninja1914 2 жыл бұрын
what about stellar assault 2?
@ciredecgellar8232
@ciredecgellar8232 2 жыл бұрын
@@costumeninja1914 Stellar assault is a Saturn exclusive
@largerfire9791
@largerfire9791 3 жыл бұрын
love me a bit of tate.. banging gallery and all
@hibachifinal
@hibachifinal 3 жыл бұрын
Just to comment on a minor note, you have to give SNK some credit when it came to porting Real Bout Fatal Fury "Special", tl;dr the PS1 and Saturn version of "RBFFS" have might as well been completely different games. The Saturn version is by all means a direct port of the NeoGeo version of RBFFS, its about as comparable to the neogeocd conversion. But the PS1 never really got the same RBFFS, it got a subtitle named "Dominated Mind" which helps it be distinct from the arcade original. Sure it used most of the assets from the arcade rom, but "DM" was more of a remix/gaiden where it completely changes how the game is. I know it doesnt matter for most people, but for those who play fighters at a technical level it would be a curiosity. DM was a rehauled fighting game that took RBFFS and made major changes (smart changes as far as making it run better on PS1). First It added two original characters that weren't playable in any other SNK game and a bunch of anime cutscenes from the same studio that did the Fatal Fury OVA's. And of course, game mechanics that were heavily altered, it removed "plane-switching" which was fatal fury series' attempt at more dynamic "3D" environment where characters can go in-and-out of the middle "plane", so "DM" is now simply "flat" more like capcom games, there's no sidestepping lending for a completely different game system. Some combo mechanics were of course changed as well (being able to cancel special moves into supers) as well as new defensive tools like a "parry" type dash, allowing you for some SF3-like moments. But yeah, it doesn't even play like a typical "Fatal Fury" game all said and done, and the reduction of the sprites needed for the sidestepping mechanic helped to make it work on the PS1 better. Thats all, cool vids as usual.
@SouthernInvasion
@SouthernInvasion 3 жыл бұрын
Though.
@niggacity5424
@niggacity5424 3 жыл бұрын
What about Devil Summoner Soul Hackers on PS1 where hitting more enemies cuts out the music for a short time as opposed to the Saturn version?
@paranoidgenius9164
@paranoidgenius9164 3 жыл бұрын
The hidden game looks like a very early beta of the game Worms!
@SNARC15
@SNARC15 3 жыл бұрын
Needs more Thunder Force V, especially after how Working Designs botched the (already in English) text for the PS1 version. "Perfect System," my arse.
@zackschilling4376
@zackschilling4376 3 жыл бұрын
The cover art so bad they went and used it twice. Did they think it was a VIP rip-off?
@dtrainacomin
@dtrainacomin 3 жыл бұрын
Loved PS1 Silhouette Mirage ... still holds up, prefer it over the Saturn by a long shot. Can only realistically get one weapon per game? Yeah, if you miss the mugging mechanic entirely. Should be beating the crap out of everything before shooting em. Saturn was kinda boring by comparison really... zipping around punching enemies, weaving through bullets and killing dudes while keeping an eye on energy just feels way more "Treasure" to me. But if it was only Working Designs at play here, bless em for that tweak.
@Phredreeke
@Phredreeke Жыл бұрын
5:59 the exclusive map on Saturn, Urea 51, is terrible. And I say this as an aficionado of Build engine toilets
@markmeadows7093
@markmeadows7093 7 ай бұрын
The only problem is that the that console generation is, people wanted all 3d. New rogue like games and 2d games are some of the best selling games.
@gametourny4ever627
@gametourny4ever627 3 жыл бұрын
I am curious what Ram cart you were using with Marvel Super Heroes. The 4MB Cart Ruins the game. The 1MB Cart is the proper cart for the game. It is interesting looking at Marvel Super Heroes running with the 4MB cart, the 1 MB cart, and with no Cart.
@Bransfiiiield
@Bransfiiiield 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/fImmi6WkiJiAh5o
@n64fan60
@n64fan60 9 ай бұрын
I'll stick up for the PS1 version of SFA3 - it was an incredible unicorn port like RE2 on N64. SFA2 sucked really bad on PS1, but SFA3? It's not as good as the Saturn port with its RAM cart of course, but they closed the distance and pulled all kinds of tricks to get as much animation in as possible. I would say much more effort went into the PS1 version. The later Saturn port essentially took the PS1 versions' modes, replaced its graphics with the CPS2 graphics, demanded the RAM cart and called it a day. The PS1 version must have required blood sweat and tears to be as good as it was, whereas the Saturn version just required them to make a Saturn game.
@m.jordan5181
@m.jordan5181 9 ай бұрын
No, that is incorrect. The Saturn version actually *does* contain 'everything' included in the ps1 edition of SFA3. Check again and you'll see. However, the Saturn also has an exclusive mode to it called Reverse Dramatic Battle, which is not found in the ps1 port. Having said this... in terms of overall quality, the SEGA Saturn version (to this day) remains regarded as the best home conversion of SFZ3. For ps1, Capcom actually did change some things to assist with alleviating a bit of system workload. For example: -All hit connection sprites were completely taken out of the ps version and replaced with an effect that was instead drawn with polygons. -As usual, some animation frames were cut from the ps1 version. -As usual, some background graphical details were scaled back from the ps1 version... such as the animated skull within the sky on the Final Stage. -Overall sound quality is also slightly more compressed on the ps1 this time. BUT... Alpha 3 on the ps1 was still quite a respectable effort and one of the best offerings available on the system. I had it for my ps1 first before the Saturn import version was even announced and played it way too much.
@n64fan60
@n64fan60 9 ай бұрын
@@m.jordan5181 I think my point stands - Saturn version is better/the best, but for a slight alteration/update to one mode, contains the same modes as PS1. PS1 version had more effort poured into it. Saturn port was easy by comparison.
@doodoobrn
@doodoobrn 3 жыл бұрын
How come nobodo talk about the first couple Darkstalkers games. The one we all played on the Saturn was Nightwarriors. I didn't know anyone who had a RAM cart at the time, or an import system.
@joeconti2396
@joeconti2396 3 жыл бұрын
I really want to play Exhumed now.
@klauskillski3881
@klauskillski3881 3 жыл бұрын
whats is the name of the outro song?
@Bransfiiiield
@Bransfiiiield 3 жыл бұрын
Death Tank
@klauskillski3881
@klauskillski3881 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bransfiiiield thx
@bombjack1984
@bombjack1984 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the companion video '222 times the PlayStation beat the Saturn'.
@DARS_04
@DARS_04 2 жыл бұрын
The PS1 doesn't have smaller sprites, most saturn capcom games couldnt do a resolution similar in dimension to the arcade so the sprites look bigger due to the lower resolution. PS1 just wasn't cut out to be a predominantly 2D machine (even though it did support compatible resolutions), it was the opposite in fact it was made with mostly 3D game development in mind.
@dqwno4900
@dqwno4900 2 жыл бұрын
the Saturn can do a resolution from 320×224 to 704×224. most arcade games have a resolution of about 384×224. The Saturn actually can output the arcade resolution, and higher resolutions. although it can output the same resolution as most arcade games, most of the Saturn versions don’t for some reason.
@DARS_04
@DARS_04 2 жыл бұрын
@@dqwno4900 With most SNK games you'd get an even higher resolution than the arcade!
@demgreens
@demgreens 2 жыл бұрын
@@dqwno4900 To my knowledge, 384x224 was only used by Capcom and Irem. It was not the most common arcade resolution - I think it was 320x240 as pixels were almost square on a 4:3 display. The Saturn does however support an unusual horizontal resolution of 352 pixels, which is half of 704.
@zackschilling4376
@zackschilling4376 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Hows that Saturn Tekken 3 port? I just had to say something snarky to hide my true feeling about the Saturn. That sucks about Silhouette Mirage, they prob did that cuz of "THE SCOURGE OF VIDEO GAME RENTALS!!!"...oh the horror. I never really understood that mentality cuz I would rent a game, and if I liked it, I would buy it. I might pick up that Street Racer thou, looks fun!
@kyzapgs7584
@kyzapgs7584 3 жыл бұрын
Death Tank!
@Deezy1234
@Deezy1234 2 жыл бұрын
Review Cyberbykes: Shadow Racer (DOS) it was a revolutionary game for it's time.
@alexl2475
@alexl2475 3 жыл бұрын
I owned Duke Nukem on the PS1 real letdown, Time to kill was great fun though.
@AlexDestroyerOfEarth
@AlexDestroyerOfEarth Жыл бұрын
Maybe don't let your political views bleed into a video about which game is better than the other. I don't care what your opinion of duke nukem is via the "feminist lens" just tell me if it's better on the saturn.
@Bransfiiiield
@Bransfiiiield Жыл бұрын
Maybe fuck off and watch another channel then
@gamesretro16xd84
@gamesretro16xd84 3 жыл бұрын
Real bout fatal fury special ps1 version is better
@ThoughtformsOfTheSubconsciousM
@ThoughtformsOfTheSubconsciousM 3 жыл бұрын
As mentioned there are tons more examples, basically almost every 2D game ever. Mega Man 8, Mega Man X4, every langrisser game, the list goes on and on.
@RedRanger2001
@RedRanger2001 2 жыл бұрын
Well, X4 on PS1 and Saturn aren't that much different other than dithering. And besides, X4 on the Saturn don't have anything new.
@somekidcalledmark3754
@somekidcalledmark3754 7 ай бұрын
Actually sega fan's soon they going to say #dreamcast beat ps5
@EverScrolls
@EverScrolls 2 жыл бұрын
You missed Mega Man 8
@pasquale7411
@pasquale7411 3 жыл бұрын
This man is not obsessed by PlayStation's success. What the next video will be about? 20 Times the Xbox One beat the PS4? XD
@Bransfiiiield
@Bransfiiiield 3 жыл бұрын
nope
@potatostuffing5643
@potatostuffing5643 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bransfiiiield 10 times the Sega Dreamcast beat the Nintendo GameCube. I would like to see that become a video at some point, and have Sonic Adventure as one of the games on there.
@ThoughtformsOfTheSubconsciousM
@ThoughtformsOfTheSubconsciousM 3 жыл бұрын
As for Silhouette Mirage, you must not have looked very hard. The PS1 version has 2D effects cut everywhere. I honestly don't know how someone could NOT notice them. Check out the windows and reflections in the buildings behind the flying freak fish boss. Or the stage with the rich snob with the chauffeur trying to drive wildly and shake you off the roof of the car.
@allnamesaretakenful
@allnamesaretakenful 3 жыл бұрын
The artillery game looks like a rip-off of Scorched Earth.
@Bransfiiiield
@Bransfiiiield 3 жыл бұрын
Scorched Earth is a rip-off (or a riff on) Artillery, it's a really old genre.
@2000DC
@2000DC 3 жыл бұрын
Is it Anna-theema or ana-themm-ah? You have confused me about a word I often read but rarely hear 🤔
@Bransfiiiield
@Bransfiiiield 3 жыл бұрын
I don't actually remember how I said it, but it's meant to be the second one - uh na thuh muh
@2000DC
@2000DC 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bransfiiiield maybe you were in the US when you did your voice over 🙈 I'm going to have to put alerts on for your videos, I'm always missing them for some reason. They don't come up often on my page even though I've watch a lot of them. You deserve many more views than you have honestly!
@geldofpunk32
@geldofpunk32 11 ай бұрын
Small victories for your dead console lol
@Galgomite
@Galgomite 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not pronouncing it “tot-ay” mode.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 3 жыл бұрын
But that's the correct pronunciation.
@Galgomite
@Galgomite 3 жыл бұрын
@@SameNameDifferentGame You're right! I never knew that. Just looked it up. But in the end it's pronounced more like "TATE mode, which means you turned your TV on its side." Maybe we should switch to "sideways mode"
@RetroRme
@RetroRme 5 ай бұрын
for you to review games properly u cannot be a sega fanboy dude, it shows too much. its common knowledge that saturn was better at 2D but couldnt keep up with 3D because of its architechture
@Bransfiiiield
@Bransfiiiield 5 ай бұрын
Good job I'm not a Sega fanboy then, eh?
@amerigocosta7452
@amerigocosta7452 3 жыл бұрын
You're not Digital Foundry but you sound almost but not quite entirely unlike Richard.
@Bransfiiiield
@Bransfiiiield 3 жыл бұрын
Naaaaah. I'm Northern, he's not Northern. I mumble, his speech goes the rhotacism route. I'm a bit deeper. Beyond us both being English and male, I don't hear any similarity at all.
@neogenesis7706
@neogenesis7706 3 жыл бұрын
Satn.
@thehumbleone1983
@thehumbleone1983 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@mikjivitjunior4246
@mikjivitjunior4246 11 ай бұрын
Uhhh, so the saturn sucks?
@danieldrugo
@danieldrugo 2 жыл бұрын
wow great games!! ahhahahahahaha saturn was a real shit
@princegroove
@princegroove 3 жыл бұрын
This is why PlayStation is better than Sega. 😁
@ciredecgellar8232
@ciredecgellar8232 3 жыл бұрын
or not ...
@costumeninja1914
@costumeninja1914 3 жыл бұрын
Not
@niggacity5424
@niggacity5424 3 жыл бұрын
Nope
@RetroGamesBoy78
@RetroGamesBoy78 3 жыл бұрын
"This is why Playstation is better than Sega" LOL. Has nobody spotted the stupidity in that statement?
@potatostuffing5643
@potatostuffing5643 2 жыл бұрын
Sure it is... Almost like you never watched this video.
@WarcleanePro
@WarcleanePro 3 жыл бұрын
Though.
@SameNameDifferentGame
@SameNameDifferentGame 3 жыл бұрын
Though.
@potatostuffing5643
@potatostuffing5643 2 жыл бұрын
Though.
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