Brant Daugherty Spills All His Pretty Little Liars Secrets | Ep 8

This week we welcome Brant Daugherty, AKA Noel Kahn, to the podcast! Brant shares how he stumbled into the acting industry and how his character Noel originally was only supposed to say a couple lines. Brant, Tammin, and Lindsey all commiserate on how awkward it is to kiss on camera, and we learn that Lindsey has finally learned how to kiss in real life. Brant talks about his near death experience on set for another project, and shares what he is currently up to. Finally, Joseph shares how people get pronounced dead…and also incorrectly pronounced dead.
Which huge movie did Brant find his start on as a production assistant? How did Brant get PTSD from working on a movie?? And what crazy question did Shay ask Tammin on set???
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[@ll4576]

I still think Marlene is insane for not making his character a love triangle with Aria and Ezra… his face card was crazy he could’ve been such a popular character especially with the new gen of tik tok fans

[@troithescholar]

YES!!!! such wasted potential

[@Jis00tv]

And Marlene king is insane for the teacher n student relationship💀💀

[@samanthasteighner1999]

Some people age like absolute fine wine and he is one of them

[@europeanguy8773]

He's only 38 - how else is he supposed to age ? Let's see in ten. He's hot tho.

[@gcar25]

i wish the topic of pretty little liars and its plot points were focused on a lil bit more. i’d love to hear the guests talk about their thoughts on the storylines their character was given and part of!

[@bernadettedeady4909]

Idek if they read these comments cause everyone keeps saying this lol

[@12milliex12]

I'm pretty sure they said on their insta they've read the comments and are adapting however these were already recorded. So once they film the next batch they will be more episode focused :)

[@chelseaayala8180]

I agree w you but i also like hearing about their lives… maybe the guest stars can return for later episodes and focus in on the plot then? That’d be cool

[@monasliarr]

we need Janel in this podcast

[@amya6902]

I would be MESMERIZED 😍

[@Hellstothenaw]

Yes, please. 😁

[@nayelietorres2817]

I feel like they feel like PLL rejects, but from a viewers perspective, they were all important characters!

[@gr82bdanyelle]

Completely important! I was so disappointed Noel & Jenna wasn’t in my eps. Best times of PLL.

[@kate9820]

He did 27 episodes - shocked!! Totally thought there would be more episodes from him!!

[@claramartin5687]

Noel was such a diverse character. Even when they portrayed him to be good, you never really knew. He had the perfect face for his character. Handsome but haunting.

[@HelloBombshell21]

SHOULDVE BEEN A

[@infamous-xm2fc]

The way i did not even hesitate to click on the video when i saw that Beautiful MAN. 😨

[@infamous-xm2fc]

*bites lip* 🫦

[@ll4576]

He really always beat the other pll guys when it came to looks

[@shanec3610]

Saaaame 😩😩😩😩

[@mariazukowski9287]

Brant's dad was my art teacher in middle school. I loved that class. He would throw things at kids that fell asleep. I remember him talking about his son was a PA and was going to be an extra in a movie or something and was so proud. RIP. Was also in the backstage theater program in high school and Mr. B casually name dropping him before he came back to visit was mind blowing - all the connections made that day. I had been a fan of the show for awhile at that point. 😂 Hope you see this Brant and it makes you smile. Loved the episode!

[@alymechlem1071]

Can he please be a permanent co host 😂😂🫶 he’s so funny and a mans perspective would be cool

[@porchejones4287]

I think Lindsey has the best personality. She's so naturally funny bc she's so open and unafraid to go there. I would love to have a friend like that, she seems like a great girl.

[@AnnaWood1]

Yes!! I was thinking the same thing

[@AnnaWood1]

Yes!! She is such a great conversationalist

[@xoxJes]

Same I’m loving this!

[@kjleigh]

I love how honest Lindsey is, we want to hear the tea and fun little facts/situations that went on, on set! My current fav podcast

[@anasalvatore0]

I know he was a jerk in the show but I can't believe Aria picked Ezra over Noel. Look at him

[@delenafilaurentis543]

ezra is worse haha

[@lv5106]

Seriously. His eyes 😍

[@anasalvatore0]

​@@delenafilaurentis543true lol 😂

[@Hellstothenaw]

I just started rewatching and thought the same thing 😜

[@kevincoleman1993]

It’s a show lol. They picked Ezra over him smh children

[@pedrohenrique7488]

Damn he still got it.

[@hiheyitsm]

nah fr he’s so hot 😂

[@CyleighJewel]

Lucy Hale, Ashley Benson, trioan bellsario, and Shay Mitchell need to be on the pod

[@lucylucydelulu]

I remember being like 13 and his little smirk would drive me crazyyyy

[@peaceandlove679]

Brant dated Janel everyone.

[@jadennichole]

I knew it

[@Kay2be2mr]

23:36 Thank you for asking all the industry detailed questions! Cause people are like "I wrote a movie!" And they don't actually explain the actual process. People are so vague all the time. This is the first time I've heard it explained in a way most of us understand.

[@JR_Donofrio]

After I heard about Noel and aria being a thing in the books and after listening to Brant I kinda wanted to see them be a thing on the show but Marlene ruined it for some inappropriate teacher student relationship

[@maheennaseem9677]

Noel Khan is the most half-baked villain on pll.. I think he started off as a villain because they wanted Ezria to work out but then he just went down a dark spiral of bad writing.... he was also connected to the Dilaurentis and Drake family, but his character was never flushed out... his reasoning was never revealed....he was the one who got cece a passport yet in season 5 yet he was 'terrified' of Alison and he was even involved in dollhouse... it seemed that whenever they wanted to add mystery and they did not have the energy or time to introduce a new character they will somehow bring back noel...he was even involved in the Maya drama... like what???? I hear in the books Noel and Aria were a great couple...if they did not want to do that in the show fine... if they were so set on making him the bad guy the least they could have done is make him a good bad guy.... a bad guy everyone would love to hate!! Before cece was revealed to be Charles I thought it was going to Noel...it just made sense in my mind.. he was always there, he also had a mysterious bond with Alison...it just made sense

[@moisesalves6169]

Marlene is a terrible writer, Noel and Aria is such a Good couple in the novels they ruined this in the series

[@eden.g.f]

and hes still got it everyone

[@catandthemoon]

Brant seems like such a great guy, loved this episode! The conversations flowed so well

[@breaniabest7555]

I wish Noal was in more episodes! Great job with this episode!!! ❤

[@BrittanyLong310]

Yessss! Let’s go!!! ❤️ living for this podcast every week 🫶🏻

[@NoeticNotary-sx1ec]

Same! ❤

[@michelleribeiro3461]

Lindsey is so funny 😭😭😭😭 she's got me crying

[@TheLingon1]

That was crazy funny 😅 energy between these three was out of this world. I didnt know tant Brant is so hilarious.

[@Hellstothenaw]

I wish these eps were longer. You guys are such a good time 😁

[@shivamkamil1581]

This is an interesting combination of people from the show -- all three of their characters were in EVERY season EXCEPT season 6. What a strangely specific thing to have in common.

[@JacquiMcCarron21]

Brant nearly drowning like that and no one giving a shit is really really fucked up. I had a similar experience and it’s so true that no one cares. Struggling in water is a horrible feeling when it’s not freezing, it must have been terrifying being that cold. Poor guy.

[@marielles7953]

Do you know which set he's referring to?

[@JacquiMcCarron21]

@@marielles7953 nope

[@JacquiMcCarron21]

@@marielles7953 I’ll never understand how some people lack the ability to put themselves in someone else’s shoes. Disgusting behaviour from whoever they were. They should be named and shamed.

[@katelandry6056]

love this podcast so much. the girlies being besties and being in such different places in their lives makes me so happy. so refreshing to see especially as i enter into a time where my friends are getting married and having kids. i love how effortlessly yall still connect and vibe. gives me excitement

[@AnnaWood1]

Okay I think this is my new favorite episode, loved it! The conversation had me from beginning to end, please bring Brant back again!

[@amyshanahan4838]

Not my eyes prepared to roll before Brant actually pronounced Dougherty CORRECTLY and they opened in pleasant surprise instead. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 from an Irish person cause so many Americans have butchered their own Irish names

[@DestinyStellaNox]

As someone currently going through therapy for PTSD I really appreciate Brant for being so open about it.

[@ambercason5100]

Is it just me or does Lindsay seem to talk a lot a crap about Shay? 😬 Multiple times in this episode she has something shady to say about Shay.

[@Tiff31413]

Yes every episode she has talked about Shay. It seems like the y didn’t get along. Maybe we will find out more on the next episode. Lindsey seems like she wants or has more to say. When she interviewed Sasha she acted like she didn’t know about Emison. Like she “forgot” but in other podcast she said she was bullied by Emison fans. I never like Paige but I have to say I do like Lindsey. It seems like she had a rough time on set.

[@THEREALSOGOS]

Wait who is emison? I forgot

[@Giulia-]

Emison=Emily and Alison​@@THEREALSOGOS

[@AmandaDrew-mb3bo]

OMG I love this energy! The three of you speak so well together, keep him on the show!

[@stephknoll8006]

I saw him at a Starbucks in Wisconsin back in 2012 ish? I still regret not saying hi 😂 😭

[@radlyn7234]

He is so hot ! He is the type of guy who gets sexier and sexier with time

[@KhadijahJoySams93]

I didn't understand the "nighty" comment...Also im glad the guy at the end survived

[@lillianloveee28]

Shay meant she wears nighties (like pretty pajamas) to remind herself that she's a girly girl after kissing Lindsey on set, idk

[@KhadijahJoySams93]

@@lillianloveee28 😊 thanks

[@hayles023]

I think it would be better to not let us know what is going to be talked about in the episode before it starts!

[@JacquiMcCarron21]

Totally wanna hear about Lindseys salvia trips so bad 😂

[@melissabeth009]

Janel is the person who brant dated cause Janel said years ago she also dated someone from pll and they was hanging out a lot 1 year

[@mirelsandu1835]

It's a bit too chaotic for my taste, it feels like they don't have any objective with these conversations, the topics start and finish too abruptly. And I feel it's a bit immature to not address things properly like the Shay comments were a bit out of pocket and shady. Maybe if she had a better attitude and a better way of addressing it I would've understand better and enjoyed the tea. Also it seems it's easier that they would bash the main 4 girls cause they will never come to this podcast to talk with someone who doesn't feel like they understand the show that well.

[@WenLyn3]

Love this thank you 🙏 Lindsey is just an epic person

[@jeremy7bish]

“They’re in jail now” Jesus 😂😂

[@sexybabi69]

I WANT A PODCAST WITH SHAY SO BAD MAN !!! ♥😄

[@LobsterChops417]

I love getting to know the people who played the characters from the show, since I really only follow the main gals from the series, but I wish they dive more into the characters and PPL since this is the pod for it. Especially since Joseph comes on at the end and talks about the episode. I also wish they’d let Joseph finish talking before interrupting, and asking another question right away.. I know part of it is the time they have left, but they always seem to interrupt him when he is finishing answering another question…

[@proudmom2027]

Great video of all of you!! Brant still looks handsome and he'll be one of those men that'll still look good at 80 years of age.

[@flomilli1925]

wish they would stay on the topic of PLL more..also would LOVE to see janel parrish on here

[@EzraSacks]

Brant seems like a lovely guy, and it was really interesting getting to hear more about his life, his struggles, etc.

[@jeremy7bish]

Damn as someone who got frostbite I feel you on that PTSD Brant, love your humor about it tho ☺️

[@kathleenreynolds7113]

I absolutely love And adore his personality well appreciate his looks too lmao

[@sa-qs7xk]

This is the perfect compliment

[@kathleenreynolds7113]

@@sa-qs7xk very honest lol

[@unknow7114]

I wish you guys ask the casted more questions instead of talking about yourself alot 🙄. Also fun fact Brant was originally suppose to play Ezra but they decided that he should play Noel

[@Jessica.Shawnte]

Honestly I don’t care about their personal lives. This shouldn’t be labeled as a PLL podcast when they barely talk about it

[@Hellstothenaw]

I like a combo of the show and their personal lives tbh.

[@unknow7114]

@@Jessica.Shawnte thank you exactly . Like the only interview that I thought was good was Sasha . We get to know how she felt about the season 7 finale scene between her and Shay and her thought on the spin off back in 2019 and the rest of the podcast has been kind of awful . Like I don’t want to hear about someone taking a shit on the studio washroom and talk about farts. That is just nasty. I try giving it a chance and hoping that we might get more tea on behind the scene but so far is been all about Lindsey and the woman who played Jenna . I also feel that if you never watch the original show when it was airing or after that then why the hell make a podcast call Pll? That’s confusing? But then again not really because there making money off of it . They should ask the fans what Q do we want to ask the cast or even them. Also the investigator guy that they have in each episode we don’t need him In the podcast. He seems like an awesome guy but this is Pll and it’s a fictional show and idk why they brought him in the mix . Sorry for writing too long . I just expect more as a fan of the show

[@Jessica.Shawnte]

@@unknow7114 my thoughts exactly. What I wanna know is did Shay decline coming on here?? For some reason Lindsay keeps finding a reason to bring her up in a shady way It’s just weird. I wouldn’t mind knowing about their personal life if the podcast wasn’t titled PLL

[@unknow7114]

@@Jessica.Shawnte now that you mention it. It does seem abit weird the way Lindsay mentioned Shay. and also looking back at why people didn’t like Lindsay makes alot of sense now . I would rather watch the other Pll podcast who have already watch the show and know the show by heart . Am officially done watching this god awful podcast unless they change things then I will think about it .

[@mirellymoreira7168]

This was my favourite episode yet!!

[@loganwood1112]

(Writing wise) Book Noel>tv show Noel. I wish they let this man play nice main character love interest Noel.

[@jacquez426]

this is such an entertaining podcast!! i love watching the different actors from different storylines come on this podcast and explaining their experiences!!

[@wreennn]

Wait I don't get the shay thing?? What did she even mean by that 😀?!?!?

[@bb-fm9kn]

frr seems like she doesnt like her

[@lillianloveee28]

Shay meant she wears nighties (like pretty pajamas) to remind herself that she's a girly girl after kissing Lindsey on set, idk

[@bb-fm9kn]

@@lillianloveee28 that makes no sense to me lol

[@lillianloveee28]

@@bb-fm9kn it doesnt, really😄 i guess she meant that by kissing Lindsey/girls on the show she felt manly/lesbian, so she wears girl things to remind her shes a girl😌

[@wreennn]

@@lillianloveee28 yah but what's that supposed to mean 😭?

[@Тамара-к8ы]

"who has the F*ing time for that" VALID ASF

[@theslidersreview5939]

yeah that nightgown comment is odd. maybe she means she feels manly when she kisses and reminds herself that is she girly or maybe its to remind herself she is a straight female. heck who knows. then again i just read this thing on reddit, that probably explains shay's attitude towards lindsey

[@GothicThought21]

I think she means she has a nightgown to remind herself because otherwise she would like grills 😎

[@WesleyMadison]

Share with the class please lol

[@cornpeal8945]

What did you read 👀😊 I’m curious lol

[@indigotears]

google "Lindsey Shaw exposes Marlene and Shay reddit" and read the first comment on that thread it's from Tammin's podcast when Lindsey was a guest lots of PLL tea

[@ariaslegacies341]

Shay is Bisexual tho. She came out on TikTok years ago

[@angiebarth1292]

This is my Monday morning pickup. You guys are great

[@ninap6697]

please bring janel on the pod !! 💗

[@jadennichole]

Also he was in 27 episodes

[@echosinx3899]

Get Mona on here

[@itsbeth_annie8846]

“I don’t have time for making out” has honestly just represented my life

[@evlinboo9071]

I used to thirst so much over him back in Pll days , he looks even better now like wtf 😭

[@amya6902]

I'm really not shocked but i think this confirms Lindsey is not a fan of Shae... She totally said that comment "now i know why i have to wear nighties around my house at night, to remind myself I'm a girl" KNOWING Shae would get backlash for it. 😮 Shae has always been my least fav actress in the show & she gives off major b*tch vibes. Sorry not sorry.

[@caseysauls9663]

Theory…Brant and Tammin were the ones who dated on the show 😂

[@jaylenelizabeth9340]

pretty sure it was janel lol

[@Noname30255]

@@jaylenelizabeth9340it was

[@jacquez426]

LOL HE NEEDS TO BE A COHOST

[@breaniabest7555]

I would have liked to know what he thought about the show!

[@idjilju2835]

Wait Shay is actually betch behind set?

[@davimachaado]

Noel from the books was my all time crush and Brant exales Noel Kahn to me

[@makenainghram9062]

Noel is in 27/160 episodes

[@lillianloveee28]

Why does it seem that Tammin is trying to convince/tell us all how great her marriage is every single episode?

[@ViViihAires]

Y are you mad? It helps me believe in love & marriage. There are healthy couples out there. They are rare.

[@Abbreon]

She said in this episode that they don’t make out that’s not something that someone who wants people to believe her marriage is perfect would share

[@kayleemcbride6293]

Ayeeee I didn’t know he was from ohio!! Anyways great video as always 🥰💗

[@TLC87]

Weren’t Paige and Noel on in the same scene on the Halloween Train episode?

[@carsynbrooks6568]

Yes but they didn’t have any lines together thats what they were talking they obviously saw each other they just never got to talk to each other since they did not have any scenes together

[@xii22loop]

Brant should play Cyclops in an X-men film.

[@frankiedee9047]

They all aged like fine wine 😮

[@monasliarr]

Janel is the person who Brant dated !!

[@faithjacqueline3351]

why are these girls so messy. Asking kind intrusive questions and started drama lowkey

[@eugeniamarin7951]

Wdym?

[@amyfarmer8370]

I do love that we get to know what the characters are doing now in real life but would be good to recap the show more I feel like you didn’t talk to him about it at all.

[@imawonderful6118]

Forget him, how about Ryan Guzman? His character literally went 'poof'

[@greysellll]

makes me so bad cause i loved jake😭

[@imawonderful6118]

@@greysellll oh yes Jake..

[@laurenmasawiestewa4597]

Bring Ashley Benson

[@verohermida1858]

Me da la impresión que Lindsay y Shay no sé llevaban bien, pero no entiendo que pasó

[@JR_Donofrio]

So I guess Lindsey doesn’t like Shay? Shay seems like she’s above PLL or it could just be beef between Lindsey and Shay

[@SpKjFaMe]

I definitely have been feeling this since episode 1. I do believe that Lindsey is trying to be respectful but really she has a lot of stuff she could say. She also did say it was her "only blemish with Shay". I was kinda surprised when Lindsey shared that story about Shay. I wish she would of gave a little more context. It seems like she wasn't the only one who wanted to know the answer but why not just ask him or Tammin. I may need to go back and watch. 😂 LOL

[@waffletoiletpaper]

Also she has been subtly shading Ashley as well since ep 1. Aaaand Ash and Shay were bffs during filming, so I feel like there might be something there

[@lillianloveee28]

I think lindsey just wanted to shade shay a little bit here for saying that Shay meant she wears nighties (like pretty pajamas) to remind herself that she's a girly girl after kissing Lindsey on set, idk I dont think theres a beef

[@cornpeal8945]

@@waffletoiletpaperwhat was said about Ashley? I’ve watched all of the podcast episodes, but for some reason I’m running a blank on what was said about her

[@A-ut7rb]

@@SpKjFaMe 31:40 She said, “it was my *FIRST* blemish” (meaning there were more) and then added, “one of the only ones” (still meaning there were more).

[@KarennxDD]

The Shay tea oh nooo lol

[@Aurea8787]

Omg Shay sounds like a piece of work 😂😂. No wonder her kisses with Ali looked sooooo uncomfortable. Lindsey was at least giving the masc energy.

[@jbvlaoc]

Is it me or do they ask Joseph the death investigator the same questions every ep ?

[@dahnila05]

Get every pretty liar here!

[@miranda13c]

I remember him and Janel dated for a little bit I thought. I know they made a horror short film together around that time.

[@eiramu]

This one hits home too close 😢 I was here looking for entertainment, I didn’t expect to feel something with and for Nole of all people

[@robertburkhart81]

i liked him on Days of our Lives

[@Justsunny14]

Brant did 27 episodes

[@glencoco1462]

Fuckin Noal.. is a nice guy 😊

[@pokemontas8025]

I love his laugh :3

[@g_factking]

Let's F word go!!!!

[@shanec3610]

Gaaaaahhhh it's Braaaaaaaant!!!!!

[@lucyhalefan581]

Amazing ❤

[@itssimplytv]

27 episodes man! He was on 27 episodes LOL

[@PrincessJas24]

Looks, personality, charm!! Such a good guest, he should have been more relevant I wanted Aria to be with him instead lol

[@Seymaerkl]

I still have a crush on Noel Kahn

[@Luckygirlme111]

English is not my first language so I didn't quite understand but were they shit talking Shay or what did they mean?

[@A-ut7rb]

Lindsey was shit talking Shay.