Brass: Birmingham - Shut Up & Sit Down Review

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[@AwesomeWookiee]

Horses don't need to network because they already have such Stable relationships.

[@GarrettPetersen]

I'm 1/3 of the way through this video, and I'm worried Quinns won't be falling in a canal this time.

[@titwarbler]

2 out of 5 stars: No canal plunge

[@Healermain15]

That's what the boy is for.

[@jonathanamwoza1132]

He doesn't 😟

[@clockmonkey]

The double sided board is a good idea if you've a tendency to drop cake on the playing surface rather than sticking it in your mouth.

[@ElTrolldego]

You should never stick the playing surface in your mouth.

[@brienfoaboutanything9037]

All you need to know about Brass: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6fHgYquj7WDock

[@olivercooksey2243]

Most game components have been in Quinns’ mouth

[@uncleeurope9896]

I tried using the little code you guys gave me but they just sent over a policeman. I am disappointed.

[@Jlerpy]

And how would you rate the policeman's work?

[@citylifechurchlivestreamin7160]

Whoah! That was a reverse mid-review turnaround!

[@youtubeadministration8037]

-Dad so how children are made? -Girls are made when mom and dad love eachother -how about boys? -BOXES

[@stacie_everdell]

LOL...oh my god, that ending. Cleary cut short right before Quinns burst out laughing! Well done, and on the review as well. I'm going to check this one out. I like the artists, a duo from Quebec that go by the code name Mr.Cuddington.

[@jonydude]

That joke about Uber is so very very very accurate and well researched. I'm saddened that most people won't get how exactly 100% true that joke is.

[@SjorsHoukes]

Saddened by an assumption that you're smarter than most people, oh boy.

[@snogurt]

Thanks a lot. Now when I play with my girlfriend I keep referring to building and/or selling a “box of boys” - as well as singing a variety of absentminded songs on the subject as I think. It’s weirding her out! - but seriously - got this on your recommendation and played first game - so great! We love it.

[@Jadushnew]

Because of you I got the game last year. And I agree to every point: The game is complex but so much fun! And yes, it is hard to teach and can be tiresome. As Matt said: the texture and quality of the artwork really elevate the game and create such a nice experience!

[@StoneEdwards]

"Oh good SU & SD will convince me that I don't really need to buy this game"...6 minutes into the video: "nooooooooooooo!!!! YOU TRICKED ME!"

[@dancebenny]

Please do a shut up and sit down playthrough of this game :D

[@SerTempleton]

What he said

[@TheMunchkin9]

What they said

[@TomRauhe]

That video. Where he fell into the canal. Was it about anything else than him falling into the canal? I think it was just him.. And the canal. And him falling into it. That's it. Canal falling.

[@Tdoshok]

I think there was cake too.

[@Tdoshok]

I think someone told him to try streaming and he got confused

[@MichaelWhyte1990]

This is actually my favourite review you guys have ever done. It finally trumped your village review for me. Boxes of boys! Ha!

[@MiaMulder]

Oh hell yes more wonderful tabletop content

[@sharingmatters]

This is the best youtube channel about board games. Period! Not a channel, but a Show!!! Always with humour and emotions.

[@CrabQueen]

“Beer is beautiful and complicated because it doesn’t work like coal or iron” “Beer is unusual, fascinating, and funny” I love board games

[@elibosnick3013]

Last few video have been some of your best work! Keep it up!

[@faust3552]

At last! I was waiting this video for so long, and it's worth it! =)) Thanks!)

[@xanadu1215]

I'm thrilled by your videos. It would be cool to see how you make the videos and how many hours a week (day?) you play these games? Just curious. Totally Love you guys. And I love TableTop. I do believe you guys are tied....you for your reviews and them for seeing the game played.

[@elliotgreen8472]

Love you guys and all the amazing SUSD content. I'm new to board games and these videos have really cemented this new passion in me. Question for Quinns @shutup&sitdown - how is it that the relatively small changes introduced to Birmingham were able to change your feelings about this game so dramatically? Is it not essentially the same game as original Brass with improved artwork and subtle mechanics changes? Keep up all the great content!

[@Otter34]

"Is it not essentially the same game as original Brass with improved artwork and subtle mechanics changes?" Basically it's those various small changes that have helped turn it from an absolute grind into something more enjoyable. As Matt explains, the simple facts that there's more resource types and some resources move differently than others and the board state changes each game means the inexorable crushing of the life out of north England doesn't have the same bottlenecks it used to where taking an action meant chiseling out some tiny, largely ceremonial busywork. With Birmingham, meaningful choices and planning are much more possible, and it makes for more fun and less time sitting around trying to decipher what token contribution you can give that will make the game end.

[@fernandogaragnani]

Wow, what a twist! Like a M. Night Shiamalan twist. Love your show. Hugs from Brazil.

[@ZakiJeppe]

Great review. Can't wait for you guys to come to Denmark next year!

[@ryszardbrachowski5810]

"Components [...] that allow you to see the important stuff first. BEER, then coal and iron..."

[@christianhernandez199]

Great content guys, super effective sense of humor. Cheers :)

[@madcoder8]

Love the outro and review! I was hoping to see a canal plunge again. haha

[@Quarksl]

The first board game rewiev video I watched 3 times! Excellent work! Beautiful game. Nothing else to be said.

[@kivipaperisakset3999]

The desperation of the boy in the end got a bit too real :´(

[@beardyrecordbox4069]

So pleased with the inverted mid-review turnaround. I mean, as soon as I saw Kidderminster (where I grew up) on the board I knew I was going to get this game so I'm glad to discover it's also very good. :D

[@severngamingnetwork]

I grew up in Kiddi too! Made me laugh that the first time you see it it just has two 'orrible red brick carpet factory looking buildings on it! "Oh! The designers have BEEN THERE!"

[@Mark-OutWest]

I just love this channel!

[@JackT13]

I’m from Worcestershire so it’s great to see my humble patch of earth getting wide-spread exposure

[@ryanb6074]

Loved the part where Quinns dressed as an out-of-work chimney boy hired to take care of board games. I felt like there was other stuff that happened in the video...but nope, just that. Great video!

[@mattrobinson973]

I went to Birmingham once, it was OK

[@samvisser9408]

No it wasn't.

[@blade6321]

Did you fall in a canal?

[@samvisser9408]

I wish...

[@PMMagro]

Liar.

[@bearhustler]

Birmingham's great (no I'm not a brummie).

[@r2thegreat]

Spectacular review. Thanks, guys!

[@lortax1]

You earner my thumbs up with that box of chocolate reference😂 Great review

[@marcushead9985]

The Boyfetch gag is possibly the funniest joke you lovely boys have ever written.

[@chrisobleness612]

Have Great Western Trail, and a Feast for Odin on my potential list of a heavier management game-- now adding this on will only make the decision harder! Thanks SUSD!

[@Dave_W861]

New camera for this episode? - the picture quality looks amazing and the lighting is so life like.

[@mydemon]

Could be new lightning too

[@jarvbricks7422]

Another great review. You’ve convinced me to buy it. You should have fallen onto a train track for this review

[@PaperMage236]

This will be the first complicated economic game in my collection. Really excited to give it a go. Thanks for the great videos, guys!

[@khew1]

Jared how did you get on with the game?

[@PaperMage236]

@@khew1 Really well, actually. My wife and I found it to be one of our favorite 2-player games. The only quibble we have with the game is that ceramics is just a bit too good. We found the deciding factor in who won the game was who had been able to get that first kiln. Your mileage will vary, but that's how our meta game developed. Anyway, this is an awesome engine-builder and absolutely worth your time.

[@mchamberlain7408]

​@@PaperMage236 any other board games you play together?

[@Dometooplz]

You know what, I've just played both versions of the game, both for the first time. And... I have no idea why but I like lancashire more. It felt faster, quicker, tighter. And with a bit of push your luck too! I also didn't like the beer in the new version, it felt like I always wanted to build my own beer and have it as far away from other players as possible. At least ports need to be connected to something. The card draw was harsher in the older version which I'm not sure if I'm down with.

[@CaptainHoers]

excellent video. funniest one in a good while

[@HaviccB]

I have both.. excited to see which game gets the Roxley treatment next.

[@Psykaze]

Awesome review!! Definitely on my wishlist now. Also, where did you get that steamer trunk...?

[@juicebox_ryan3185]

greatings my susd boys! this game is big in my city in china right now

[@aldarez13]

“…they’ll look at you with horror - and that’s why I play games!” Beautiful.

[@TheSuperMegaPlus]

I think...wait, let me double check. Ok, I've just double checked and yes, turns out this is your best video ever! Congratulations, boys!

[@B3457m4n41DZ]

That mirror.... I kept thinking something would happen! :P

[@Vorpal_Wit]

I think the Boxes of Man. Goods is perfectly in keeping with the theme of this video.

[@1stEldestWolf]

Eh, I think the boy might have begged enough, Give him four stars.

[@Spankatank.]

It's boys

[@Ledabot]

Thats wordwang!

[@hellabisys]

It's always boys

[@TCJones]

Is brass Lancashire re done any better, i was thinking about getting that one threw the kick starter just cos that's where i live, but out of the two new redos is brum really the better one?

[@PetrVojtech]

Oh man, you've done it agait. I need to get this game immediately!

[@PetrVojtech]

@Wizzykin i did actually. I have the basic retail version and I love it :)

[@Owlpunk]

Is it just me, or does this send out major Frostpunk vibes, aesthetically?

[@NocturnalPeacock]

God I love you guys ! :D I always hoped for a Brass kinda game in the Dishonored ( which is a 19th century steampunk/magic/zombie kinda world) where you could organize worker revolt in other players whale oil factorys, make expansive partys with aristocrats to gain politic power and spread the plague on said partys or send assasins... well would be a totally different game

[@revimfadli4666]

Brass: Dunwall would be a blast indeed

[@alexandersharman2108]

Can I have a link to that app please. Seems very useful.

[@OriginalPiMan]

Be careful. The app also sideloads a phonecall to 999.

[@citylifechurchlivestreamin7160]

Playing this for the first time tonight!

[@joshual6305]

Played it for the first time today, can't wait to get another game of it in

[@ethan9556]

What is the sound bit called at 3:50? Its been used in some other susd videos, and I love the way the 3 tones bounce off each other. I'd use it as a text tone if I could find it!

[@zga042]

if you can download the KZbin and edit it in a video software you can isolate the audio

[@D_veraz]

Talk about diversity... "When i just flip this token you can be a man or... a man with a hat" XD

[@alexandrelimoges3507]

Actually you can play a woman too, although as an industrial in that era, it would have been quite exceptional.

[@ExcludedLayman]

Exceptional indeed! Most times your husband's ineptitude and decadence would burn through his entire estate before the arsenic finished him.

[@hedgehog3180]

@@ExcludedLayman Hilariously one of the women featured actually brought her company from a man who had almost completely driven it into ruin and then continued to call himself the owner and in response she fired him.

[@bushibayushi]

To be honest, I don't get how can you hate Lancashire and love Birmingham. Yes, Birmingham is more open, but come on - these are very similar games, Birmingham feels like Lancashire with an expansion on top.

[@KissellMissile]

They do expand upon this more in a podcast.

[@elayeth]

I think it is explained at around 6:37 - 8:20...

[@da1otta]

My thoughts exactly. I didn't find the explanation convincing enough either.

[@leeprice133]

@@da1otta And here I thought they explained it perfectly well to be honest

[@niallreid7664]

Hey guys, Mage Knight Ultimate Edition is coming out around Christmas, which would be a brilliant opportunity for you to review it again, as lots of expansions have come out since your last. Plus, updated production quality and I believe easier to understand rules.

[@mascalian]

Deluxe version has a much bigger box, but for a reason (or two) that I do love. Ok, I love "Brass: everywhere": long story romance... or so it feels like. In any case, a smaller box is definitely a +1

[@ivancasty9600]

Please review Small World. Interested in what you guys make of it

[@raymondspogo]

Taking loans in this game is almost necessary, which may be new for some players.

[@stevendufour]

Isn't the same mechanic present in Railways of the World?

[@raymondspogo]

@@stevendufour Yes. I'm saying that taking loans is more necessary in Birmingham.

[@commanderboreal1343]

That poor boy Oliver looks eerily similar to one of the handsome members of my favorite board game review teams!!! What a lucky boy! I would rate him a 5 Scratch that.. make it a 2

[@Your2ndPlanB]

I love it when the boys are positive about a game!

[@Slusher01]

The business card joke was gold!

[@Rafferty1968]

You dropped cake on Runcorn!!

[@jefftoney3622]

The 24 ref ..m love it

[@Yaherbolo]

Of all the Pokemon you could have on your shelf you chose Luvdisc. Why!?!?

[@davidcopple8071]

Have y'all reviewed the dice game " Left, Center, Right " ? An easy game for three or more players. The more the better especially if you're playing with dollar bills instead of chips. One of the only games I know that can be played for money but is still appropriate for children and entire families.

[@tanakalight]

Small heads up wrong link in des. It points to great western train thing :)

[@FrostyBrows]

ahahah "Are we the bad guys?" - Yes.

[@antondolgushin7592]

Great video, guys! It's my favorite game! Have a deluxe russian edition with gourgeous plastic poker chips :-)

[@dementedrobotgames4096]

Even if this weren't a great game and even if this weren't a great review video, watching this would be worth it simply because of the outro. :D :D :D

[@ecirelli]

Great review

[@cesarsales22]

Just like yours, my morning side of the board is green because of forests, but there are videos where the morning side is white and beige... Is that a different reprint? My board feels dark af

[@glossonbilly]

Annnnnnnd I bought it before the review was over.

[@thewilltheway]

If you hate ceiling lights you play on the nighttime board of Birmingham. I adore every part of this game. I love how many different strategies there are. I love how this game has a player driven economy. I love how you cooperate with each other, making the things other people need, while plotting to outmaneuver them with one critical power play. I love how it has all these little fiddly bits where every building type behaves a little differently.

[@-Ambos-]

should I decide betweeen this and Concordia? Or are those too different so I should get both?

[@avann2006]

Not gonna lie, I watched this to understand how to pronounce the names of the locations

[@maxducoudray]

Not to nit-pick a fine review, but I wish you’d been a little more specific in how you felt this was different from original Brass. Why/how do the same mechanisms result in a more open feel? Is it simply the map’s geography? The number of goods that can be produced? The costs of the buildings? I couldn’t tell where the big difference was from your description.

[@haukikannel]

It is a combination of things... beer means that early railroad in the befinning of second Era is not essential. You can make it a Little bit later if you like. More sell able items means variety so you can make something that other players Are not doing. You get more points from connections so you can score really high from connectioons instead/beside of building and flipping and so on... so ot is a combination of multible things.

[@griffglowen5555]

Did you guys review Brass Lancashire? Do you have a preference?

[@shutupandsitdown]

Yes, kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5yaZZ6fZ8l1jtE - we preferred this one

[@James-nl2iw]

great outro haha

[@PTPVods]

Quinns, that is the most milkiest tea I have ever seen. Never offer to make a brew for a tradesperson otherwise all the local tradespeople would find out and you will forever be taunted from scaffolding in the street typically like an unfortunately attractive female. (edit: changed all the 'men' to 'people' to remain inclusive *2thumbs up*)

[@Beybladelouser]

Highly appreciate the edit, thanks :)

[@bryank5523]

it should have been tea instead of beer

[@Bagheera23608]

How DO we ask for reviews (or at least look ats) of a game?

[@Symbioticism]

"Are we the bad gu-" "Yes."

[@gmeaki02]

These levels of white male guilt are embarrassing but they did make it funny.

[@Symbioticism]

It was a joke, but I doubt they think "These levels of white male guilt are embarrassing." I don't. Not sure where you are coming from.

[@arandomguest0089]

@@gmeaki02 Racist

[@leshrac369]

That was so perfect.

[@Ledabot]

Makes me think of Michael and webb

[@andrewchallis579]

I live in a place called the Black Country, it's near where it is on that game map.

[@xavierpaquin]

What a beauty of a game, I want to eat it

[@earth22222222]

What! No West Brom! That said you guys wavered my opinion to a solid yes, copy on its way, tara-ra-bit! :-)

[@charliek5964]

Excellent review and I couldn't agree more. I still really like original Brass but I have to admit Birmingham is the better game.

[@RowantarotBlogspot]

Please do a 2-player playthrough!

[@Wookien]

Everytime matt sings the belfast song, I need to put on Raglan Road

[@juliasmith5267]

Awesome video.

[@thomaswilliams2723]

Can’t wait for the sequel, Iron: Birmingham, Alabama

[@elguero9279]

Trading people instead of resources?

[@bialix1]

Is it retail version of the game? So many times I saw this game with plastic poker chips instead of more familiar "money" as in your video. I wonder are there actually 2 editions of this game?

[@haukikannel]

It is the retail version. Not the KS.

[@mysterwhymedia]

Almost thought BoyFetch wasn’t going to work in time. 20 minutes like a pizza...except it’s a chimney sweep. I’d like to see the game in action. Neither this nor the original review made these games sound more interesting than A Feast for Odin or Great Western Trail, and it can already be a challenge to find people to play those games.

[@ren7734]

So glad I ordered my copy before this review went out. Wont have to trample anyone for a copy now