Lindsay Sounds Off On Carl: "You Better F-king Work!" | Summer House After Show S8 E10 Pt. 2 | Bravo

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[@raayynicole]

When I look at Danielle I see someone consistently stepping on someone to raise herself up but never reaching down to help them up. Gabby has a good head on her shoulders. She’s strong, beautiful and confident. Danielle bringing up again “the fact that’s she single” is an attempt to snip at her value and confidence. pure jealousy. Women like this can’t be trusted.

[@rashelleobey7626]

💯💯💯💯💯

[@Ladybird.21]

Agree with how Danielle has been moving lately, it’s gross & disappointing…but on Gabby… I think she seems like a nice enough person, but her entire personality this season seems to revolve around boosting Lindsey’s ego & agreeing with absolutely everything she says, no matter how clearly wrong what she’s saying or doing is, and how much it affects her other friends. She’d be foolish to not understand that she’s just Danielle’s replacement, and that the moment she really challenges her behavior, she’s going to get turned on just the same. Her attachment to Lindsey this season is a real turn off to the rest of her personality, and makes her seem like she doesn’t have a mind of her own.

[@mroo4931]

Sarcasm voice: money is important to people over 30 years old! Omg! a woman over 30 is worried about having a child with a man who doesn’t have job…wow I’m shocked

[@boipink]

Not worried enough to call off the wedding

[@lys8573]

Danielle consistently tries to tell other people how to live their lives but with no consideration for the other person, and it's usually said in a way to just boost her own ego (or competition). The difference with the conversation that Ciara and Paige had with Amanda is that Amanda had talked to them personally about her issues with Kyle and they were giving her honest advice to try to uplift her as good friends. Throughout their talk they were also saying all of the great attributes she possesses, and as Amanda said, she needed to hear that honesty to have the courage to start creating some things for herself. It isn't just about delivery, it's also about the intention.

[@user-df4wr7qp2d]

“help her find a man” is still very condescending…danielle. help yourself first

[@Tierraje]

She can’t. She literally cannot help herself but for some reason she thinks she can give advice. She annoys me so much!

[@Angela-el3gp]

​@@Tierraje100% agree

[@onlyhereforNF]

She already pretty much did help herself first by going with 🎈 guy 😂

[@kandykaye9981]

Gabby has standards. Danielle got naked on camera and slept with some creep. 🤮

[@alexialanda27]

Danielle needs to be put on pause. She lives in her own world and is oblivious to her horrible behavior.

[@gerardguida7727]

I'll never understand how she lasted this long!

[@Birdrobin15]

Now I get why her and lindsey were best friends

[@Ladybird.21]

@@Birdrobin15thisss. Used to love Danielle, but after winter house, and now all this…she has clearly been struggling since her breakup, and rather than addressing her own struggles & personal issues, she’s been hyper-focused on the over-analyzing *everyone else’s* relationships and how they’re moving through the world, and her take on everything is clearly tainted, she’s wildly projecting, and just needs to sit with herself and figure out what she wants from her own life & relationships. And, yes, I can definitely see now how she & Lindsey actually fed off of each other throughout their friendship, it was a mutually beneficial relationship in a lot of ways, it was safe because they were both “YES women” for each other, but it was an equally mutually destructive relationship, for themselves, and everyone around them.

[@melisaolivero3297]

As a Founder/CEO = Selfish and Thirsty

[@andeemorante2680]

She thinks she's hotter than she is ... and is now basically finding her self-esteem in sleeping around ... Desperate Danielle.

[@Preah3]

I used to love Danielle on the show but last season it started to change and then seeing her on Winter House..she was a complete disaster. After watching the latest episode, I am no longer a Danielle fan...her behaviour was absolutely foul. Gabby had every right to be upset...

[@ldpsvede]

I feel the same way. I’m to the point where I’m hoping this is Danielle’s last season.

[@classyconversationswithrho344]

I totally agree I said that a year ago! A total disaster!

[@michelletimme8041]

Totally agree! I think she's aged out. And should take personal time away from TV to focus on herself.

[@JAG119]

Everything about Danielle is so fake. Dislike her intensely. 👎👎👎

[@meganrenee5581]

She needs some healing after that breakup...that was very obvious. A break would do her some good.

[@user-df4wr7qp2d]

carl consulting with her Exs is low as fuck. Carl PLEASE dont let us talk to your exs

[@jaclynmurray4076]

Right! Full stop did you just admit to everyone that you are comparing notes with her ex?! I know feel like Lindsay should be listening to The Tortured Poets Department

[@Ladybird.21]

Generally, I’d agree. But when you’re in a relationship with someone who is CONSTANTLY gaslighting you about very real problematic behavior she’s been exhibiting in the relationship, and you’re starting to question everything, sometimes the only way people can confirm to themselves that they aren’t crazy, and this is an established pattern of behavior, is to ask about that with a previous partner. If Lindsey’s behavior towards Carl wasn’t so gross on a regular basis, he wouldn’t have felt compelled to ask questions. If it helped save him from making a commitment to a doomed relationship, that’s not a bad thing. Also, a number of her ex’s that we know about have been good friends with Carl for years, so, it’s not like he went out of his way to track somebody down, he was merely venting to friends who had similar experiences with her.

[@kombuchana]

He's so pathetic. He wants to place the blame on anyone but himself

[@dyunis89]

That would have actually require Carl to have exes oh wait right that man hasn't been in any sort of serious relationship since we've known him.

[@EPHTR8032]

Okay?! Cause that Wirkus twin would drag him to HELL 😂😂

[@MsOthomson]

Carl has a lot of maturing and growing up to do. He may be sober, but he has missed out on decades of maturity, growing up and real-life experiences and responsibilities because of his past addiction. Reality TV as his only consistent longstanding career also doesn't help.

[@Loryxvwmwke]

I was on Carl’s side until this video. Reaching out to her exes is dirty.

[@mzzthang3912]

U gotta remember he's been friends w/ her for years her exes are his friends

[@michelletimme8041]

It's actually a normal therapeutic process to speak with ex partners post traumatic relationship. Partners who come out of a relationship being gaslight need reflection to make sense of what really happened. I know the optics are bad, but this can be a very healthy and advised reaction. It's helps the person heal from a confusing and hurtful situation.

[@nameless.faceless.]

@@michelletimme8041 okay but he clearly only did it to validate himself and not be introspective about his part. This is Carl doing what Carl does best and avoiding the real work.

[@nameless.faceless.]

You’ve spoken to Everett? So you went to her exes to validate yourself instead of doing any introspection? That’s not to say Lindsay doesn’t need to be introspective too but seriously Carl? That’s weak shit

[@Zombichh]

Carl isn’t ready for a family, so it’s glad he didn’t go through with it. Lindsay is looking for more of a traditional motherhood journey with the father being the provider, which isn’t odd at all. He doesn’t seem to think he can do that though.

[@Justme0288]

Listen here is my opinion with Carl and a job. The dude isn’t asking her to provide. Obviously his broke isn’t our broke because he is still paying half the rent on that apartment even though he isn’t living there. The “provider” shit just doesn’t come into it. She just wants him to work bc she doesn’t like him being home. But, if he has money and isn’t asking her for shit shouldn’t be able to take time to figure out what he wants to do? It’s not like he is laying up on the sofa and eating her food and not doing shit.

[@cindykenney8383]

Okay , Carl is complaining that Lindsay wants to stay home to look after a baby and he DOESNT EVEN HAVE A JOB …. She is supporting him !!!!!!

[@leahmarie112]

I’m so tired of this narrative. He’s bringing home 20K per episode of this show. She mentioned staying at home for the first time EVER this episode. She’s also deciding for the both of them that the baby is happening immediately when she originally told Carl to take his time finding new work.

[@Kat-Farrell]

The more Carl talks the more I think he was with Lindsay because she was the solid earner and financially stable one. He is full of red flags this season. I’m glad for them both that they didn’t get married. Lindsay dodged a bullet. Lindsay isn’t being unreasonable at all.

[@patclark2398]

I agree. However, I think Lindsey artificially pushed the relationship forward to fit her “timeline”. If they had moved slower, I think it would have been easier for Carl to work on himself and know better what he needs to survive.

[@Janet-Martin]

@@patclark2398 oh my gosh come on now Carl is a 40 year old man and he can't even decide what job is going to make him happy and fulfilled ??? 🤣🤣 Carl should already have his retirement plan completely planned out by the age of 40 and definitely not sitting around crying about a job that is going to make him happy while Lindsey is the one bringing in the money solely !!! Carl needs to grow TF up now, not 5 year's from now !!!

[@Andre2012ish]

I’m not a fan of Lindsey, but like Carl get a job, and stop blaming your sobriety on everything… She’s had her red flags, but he seems like a bum

[@denicarson9082]

Wait a minute, so Carl and Lindsay have the same job...they are both influencers but somehow he's a bum and she's not?

[@kelseywillow8110]

Oh come on give him a break, he’s working on his sobriety to stay alive

[@Ladybird.21]

Pretending that she wasn’t responsible for convincing Carl to leave his job in the first place, and failing to acknowledge that she told him to take his time figuring out what is next for him, and also pretending like he doesn’t take home ANY income from the show & other deals that he has, which is completely misleading, when SHE has the exact same actual job that he has, and then says her “job” is being an “influencer 😂😂😂🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ is laughable and pathetic, at best. The fact is, SHE isn’t making all that much on her own, because she doesn’t have a real job either, she just gets some income from promoting products to her “fans” that she absolutely doesn’t use herself, and that kind of income is wildly unpredictable. Pretending that she has a real job and acting like Carl is being lazy when he actually wants a REAL job and career that he’s passionate about, and she’s immediately shut down everything that he’s wanted to pursue, is delusional. Once again, she’s failing to acknowledge that all of this was perfectly okay with her until mere months before their nuptials, and she still didn’t want to postpone the wedding, like HE did, to get themselves in a better place, both within their relationship, and for financial security. All she cares about is getting pregnant, because she knows she’ll get all that she actually cares about, and then can leave him and employ the exact smear campaign she’s attempting right now. She’s trying to rewrite the history of their relationship, and it’s very transparent.

[@Ladybird.21]

@@denicarson9082hilarious and ludicrous at once that people think SHE has a real job, or that Carl should be the only one in the relationship that has to actually have a legit, stable job and steady income.🙄🤦🏻‍♀️ She also aggressively encouraged him to leave his steady job in the first place, and constantly told him to take his time finding what he wanted to do next, has shut down everything that’s he’s wanted to pursue so aggressively that he is now afraid to even come to her with further career moves he’s interested in (super healthy🤢), and was so unconcerned about his employment status that she refused to push the wedding back, even when he wanted to because he wanted to get their relationship in a better place, and get in a better place financially. She is the one being problematic here. Why is she only starting to express concern about this a couple of months before the wedding, yet she still wants to move forward because of her “timeline”, when her partner is expressing concerns himself, and why is she obsessively discussing IMMEDIATELY bringing a child into the world KNOWING *NEITHER ONE OF THEM* has a stable, reliable, REAL job and income? Because all she cares about is having a kid ASAP, and she doesn’t actually care who it’s with, and wasn’t concerned about the marriage actually lasting, because she already had a backup plan to leave him, lament about these exact same issues (that she already knew about & ignored BEFORE the marriage), and raise future kid on her own. Zero-accountability & self-awareness being exhibited here, once again.

[@SkittleWizard13]

The way Danielle spoke to Gabby and the way Ciara spoke to Amanda are two very opposite things. Danielle is trying to correlate the two conversations to soften the blow of how she acted. The big difference is Ciara acknowledges in that same conversation she had with Amanda that what she said is mean but then goes on to explain why she feels that why AND reassures her friend of her talent, of her value and what she brings to the table. Ciara came into that conversation knowing what she had to say could be harsh but it came from a place of love and had what she said pushed Amanda to tears she would apologize. Danielle on the other had approached her conversation with Gabby with only judgment and criticism. At no point in the conversation is she actually trying to help Gabby or Hype up Gabby. She just points out where she thinks Gabby is lacking and then is like okay bye gotta go party. Where Danielle really messes up is not immediately apologizing no matter how "silly" or Stupid" she felt it was. She actually goes on to defend her stance and why she is correct, she still is taking very little accountability. That is the big difference because had Ciara hurt Amanda she would've said sorry right away.

[@truthhurts8819]

Facts. Danielle tried it, and it failed big time.

[@SkittleWizard13]

@@blueraven596 I get what you are trying to say but you don’t have to be married or in a relationship to give someone advice. A lot of people are married and are still very much individuals outside of their marriage. I think the girls were just trying to point out that Amanda’s whole life doesn’t need to be centred around Kyle and what he has going on. Also what you are saying feels a little like projections because all 3 of the girls have stated they have a close enough relationship that they can give each other tough love and know it’s not coming from a place of judgement. Amanda herself said she wasn’t upset by the conversations and understood where they were coming from.

[@cynthiahatten7388]

I don’t blame Lindsay because she doesn’t care if he fails but fail at something. If you try you just might succeed as well but quit thinking and start doing. $20,000 for a coach would piss me off because you are still pondering about you what you want to be when you grow up at 40 is just lazy and a bullet was dodged.

[@nahhhbruhhh]

Danielle is such a hater and so weird.

[@nahhhbruhhh]

@@blueraven596 right! So strange… i hope she gets it together because it’s not a good look.

[@jouxjia]

Being a stay at home mom isn’t having a break. It’s ALOT of work, it’s a 24’7 job!

[@carter7937]

This shows she isn't ready for children.

[@CGC890]

@@carter7937 no one is ready for children until you have children.

[@Ladybird.21]

Also, SHE doesn’t have a real job, either. They both have the exact same job. 😂😳 She’s completely delusional. The only difference is that Carl was actually being responsible, and wanted to postpone the wedding to address all of the concerns in their relationship, including the constant fighting & communication issues, as well as giving more time for BOTH of them to secure more financial stability & security, and Lindsey didn’t actually GAF, all she cares about is getting pregnant, and then she would’ve left him within 2 years, and cited the exact same complaints, as though she didn’t very clearly know about the issues between them BEFORE they ever even got engaged.🤢🤮 Professional victim should be on Lindsey’s own résumé.

[@amywilkins543]

@mocla1900-xn1og I agree 100%!!!

[@nancyfolse9179]

@mocla1900-xn1ogagree. She is supporting him while he finds himself; he can return the favor when they start their family. That’s “50/50”, Carl. 😉

[@AbsolutAlim]

The more I watch this season I’m thinking Lindsay dodged a bullet. She always been this way but Carl is on another level.

[@brigidmartin3877]

Making it sound like Lindsay wanting to be a stay-at-home mom is a trap for men ....is probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

[@leahmarie112]

I think it’s because he had never heard that from her before the scene at this party. She’s drunk, they’re filming, it’s contrary to what she’s said before. It’s a lot to dump on someone and then judge his character based on his reaction in that same moment.

[@sammysweetdesigns]

Who does Carl thinks going to take care of the child? Like wtf 😳

[@Jcw-u4n]

Exactly. Gross.

[@jordanbarthe7668]

But she never told him she wanted to stay at home, he learned that during that conversation !The notion that the woman decides what goes regarding the baby is outdated !

[@Alex-mx6mu]

CARL IS CRAZY!!!!! TALKING TO ALL HER EXES???? UR INSANE DUDE EWWWWWW

[@Jcw-u4n]

JUST a stay at home Mom?!?! This guy has zero clue what tremendously hard work it is. Harder than being at most jobs. So insulting to women who raise their own children.

[@rdavisnh]

Why are they making Amanda sit down with Danielle? Danielle needs to go. She only got saved by the COVID season when they needed the cast to get sequestered.

[@lukystarrk4life]

Also how Amanda explains Danielle’s behavior is hilarious especially when she didn’t agree with it in the moment.

[@ange8110]

I can’t believe it!!! I’m team Lindsay. After giving birth a women is a stay at home Mum for a period of time. Breast feeding is a full time job!!!!! Get a job Carl!!!

[@kimsaumier2417]

I am too and it shocked me lol. Carl has been lazy since season 1 he has lost every job he had other than his job with Kyle and we all know how much he wanted to fire him

[@simoneboss1955]

Carl is lazy AF

[@carter7937]

"Period of time" key word. Lindsay made it seem like she wanted to do it as the kids grow up which means they'd have to make big financial sacrifices. At least he was honest about not wanting that lifestyle.

[@AquaGirl953]

⁠@@carter7937I agree, it set off even more alarm bells for him. I think people underestimate the toll being the sole breadwinner can take, especially with a spouse who wants a certain lifestyle in this economy.

[@BwInNewJersey]

You all should mind your business.

[@MsOthomson]

Danielle gives Fatal Attraction vibes. Yikes!

[@amberjackson9902]

Carl decided to dump her when she told him to get a job. He doesn't want her to stay home because he wants to stay at home. Team Lindsay after this episode. She dodged a bullet.

[@TitaniumTectonic]

Stay at home mom/influencers can earn a lot of money. Plus, she has investments. Even so, she shouldn't have to work outside the home with children if she doesn't want to. Desiring financial security isn't a lot ask. Carl has a history of lacking ambition and work ethic. Just ask Kyle or show the footage.

[@lukystarrk4life]

I support Lindsay. She makes total sense about wanting to stay at home after the baby is born… Also Carl did not know how to express his feelings to Lindsay he just talked to everyone else about it.

[@nbpg8103]

Carl was playing up to the cameras to make Lindsay look bad. She made mistakes too but he seems manipulative

[@rlast4698]

Very

[@kombuchana]

Carl is such a loser. Clearly Lindsay wasnt expecting him to be the sole provider. If that happened they would both be on the streets. And saying she just wanted to be a "mom influencer" is so patronizing. He sucks!

[@kandykaye9981]

Drunk or sober, Carl gives me the creeps.

[@gennivivecelesteeklund7762]

To imply that a stay at home mom doesn't work is absolute bs. I happen to be stay at home and I bust my tuchus. I handle all the household chores, I do the books, I cook all the meals and I raise our child. Check your privilege.

[@rlast4698]

Exactly!. You don't just lay around n binge netflix. Yeesh!

[@dorothyscott8290]

Carls friend need to tell him he needs a job

[@rileylaser8394]

I’m obsessed with Amanda. She is the it girl on the show in my opinion. Cool, relatable, and the voice of reason at the house.

[@sidrahzubair1605]

Carl is extremely calculative He’s a very good salesman !! I’m totally not falling for his manipulation

[@beisypizarro]

He said 50/50. He doesn't work and hasn't worked their whole relationship like what is he talking about.

[@dharmaangelg3467]

I think carl likes it wen anyone says linds isn't for him cuz Lindsey shows him who he really is...wen he knows lindsey is rt about him basically being a loser

[@cici2716]

I feel like Carl just dont want to work.

[@rlast4698]

😂 ding ding. We got a winner

[@Mila-Nova]

He has never had a stable career

[@classyconversationswithrho344]

I'm totally on the side of Lindsay! His friend was disabling him. I totally understand their friends but he should have said," you're wrong! of course you need to work!" Lindsay said," she would never stay home full time" like she said again, she was trying to put a fire under him! For him to talk to her exes in putting her down was below the belt low! More like a coward! I was on Lindsey's side last season again I can't believe there were people that were not! I was saying something that's now showing up in this season that nobody else comprehended. It was hypothetical! I'm reading the comments below and people just don't seem to get the point here! Danielle I said it a year ago she was off her rocker and I couldn't believe white people were even on her side! Now she's going to Paige with the same thing! Again I could not believe people could not see how Danielle was being a total jerk! Not to be rude, I'm sorry Danielle but it seemed a bit Narcissistic! I think Danielle is trying to clean up her act by saying certain things but it's not working for me! No shade but I think she's got deep-seated problems that she needs to take care of! It's very apparent on the show!

[@LuxEternam13]

For Carl everything is a Lindsay thing - she dodged a flippin bullet!

[@tikigyrl79]

Does anyone know what Danielle is the CEO of?…or is that her delusion?

[@mstaylor1073]

I don’t believe Lindsey actually wants to be a stay at home mom I think she was trying to get a reaction out of Carl and for him to all of a sudden find a drive and passion. That naturally can come with time but Lindsey’s whole issue is she feels she running out of time. I get it babe but that’s not going to work on any man

[@raayynicole]

thank you the baby convo is a cover up, the real issue is she’s not okay with the amount of money that’s he bringing in.

[@ellingtonfeint13]

@@raayynicole at thee core is Lindsay's baby-panic. She wanted to have a child yesterday, therefore Carl needs to be ready, meaning his finances. Lindsay wouldn't pressure him, if they decided not to have kids.

[@raayynicole]

@@ellingtonfeint13 i’m glad they reconsidered. You can’t push a man, if he can’t push himself gone head and exit stage left.

[@dyunis89]

She literally says this on the show and during WWHL

[@patclark2398]

Especially,on a recovering addict. Pressure is Carl’s biggest problem. I don’t think they are good for each other at this stage in their lives.

[@marycohen3551]

Lindsay might not be everyone’s cup of tea and has something’s to work on but let’s not be oblivious here what she’s asking for/expecting is extremely normal and I think it’s crazy how Carl can come up with a million excuses & try to constantly push blame on her.

[@marissam.9079]

I agree with Paige and Ciara. Amanda's style of fashion is SICK!!!! 😎 ❤

[@kelseywillow8110]

Danielle was selfish, she wanted to have the guy. She’s been like that in the other show as well. Forcing it.

[@louisloother301]

Danielle needs to realize that Paige and Ciara are Amandas friends so quick trying to make a problem out of nothing to make yourself look better 💯💯💯

[@lovelao7615]

I agree with everything that hey said about Amanda how she’s the coolest, smartest, most fashionable woman! I’d love to be her friend!

[@The_1_She]

Either Carl gets a job or you pay an arm and a leg for a nanny instead of the mom staying home with said kid? It’s weird. Just don’t do it. When a woman is proactively making smart decisions now she is mean and a cruella. Choose you or get screwed. They will laugh at you and pity you for using your heart to make life altering decisions. ❤

[@Esther-32013]

I also think Amanda is the coolest NYC gal. Love her style. And I love how Ciara and Paige just hype her up, GREAT FRIENDS!

[@vanessad.2625]

Carl is not ready, I'm glad they won't get married, but why propose in the first place? This show used to be about professional new yorkers going to the Hamptons on the weekends to blow off steam and it was so much fun and interesting and everyone had real jobs, now they are all influencers, and that's fine, but it doesn't match the premise anymore. It used to be somewhat aspirational but also relatable. I only watch these little clips now, I haven't watched a full season since Hannah Berner was there plus I miss the Wirkus Twins. Heck I even miss the days when Lindsey was getting her PR agency up and running and was stressed as hell. The show lost it's spark.

[@carter7937]

For the show!

[@traumaqueeen]

I get you, but you are describing all reality tv now. No one on there has real jobs, just influencing... which is the most boring job on the planet in my opinion

[@vanessad.2625]

@@traumaqueeen yeah, I guess I'm just reminiscing. And also wondering why Carl and Lindsey complain of a career, when they literally get paid to be on the show? 😑 And their not getting chump change either. Make it make sense.

[@londonclough7729]

I think Carl is just waiting around because he wants a business to kind of just fall in his lap and make millions. He wants to be an entrepreneur like Kyle but doesn't really know which path to take or how he wants to go about it so he's just stuck. All of them feel above 9-5 jobs at this point even though this show only films in the summer. I actually see where Lindsay is coming from on this one. In the words of the queen Vicki Gunvalson 'What are you doing all day? Go to work!!!'

[@nalandajoshi763]

Carl is an overgrown baby. He has grown in age… but hasn’t mentally. No woman will ever want to marry him. The way he used the word STAY AT HOME MOM…. made me sick and sad for the woman he marries in future. For Lindsay.. girl! Lucky you,… just say good riddance..

[@sarcasm176]

Yikes Carl sounds like a lame here

[@cuts240]

Btw- obviously they do not realize how none of this means much or offers value to others When they are gone - I assure you - as w the emperors or celluloid heroes - no one will recall

[@katealison6087]

Carl is so full of it. Lyndsey has been patently clear for years that she wants to have kids - and unless you're some kind of robot that means a period of being at home. To try and reframe the whole picture by saying we got together as this 50/50 income earners line is ridiculous - he isn't working and can't get his act together on how he'll be working! It's been over a year, so where's the 50/50? When one of his main suggestions was a sports bar - bars being the biggest marriage and bank account killers known to man - you can't keep taking him or his reframes seriously.

[@candicebyrum9607]

Danielle is so selfish don't worry about your friend worry about getting a mans attention so you can hook up for a night real classy

[@Aquariangirl126]

Danielle is not a girls girl, she’s very male centered. I wouldn’t want her for a friend.

[@FaganMrs]

I sorry but I think Carl is full of crap …. He’s totally lied about certain things about Lindsey to his friends. Savings don’t last forever in NY

[@marieneu264]

4:07 maybe don’t live in NYC if you need $2M a year.

[@lollyk23]

Lindsay and Gabby are coming across as delusional. Lindsay wants a sugar daddy.

[@Tquin55]

They had a $13k/mo apartment in NYC and Carl paid his half of the rent for a year after they split and he moved out. Lindsay still complains about him not having money and he’s paying half the rent where she’s living. They had the same job the year prior; being online influencers. I just cannot imagine being with someone who would rather push their partner down verbally all the time. It’s very good they called off the wedding.

[@MyBeautifulHealth]

Or maybe just make more money.

[@ola3rd]

Why didn't they talk about this until 1 month before their wedding?

[@marymarywhyyabuggin4365]

On another subject with Lindsay, the fact that she told Carl that Kyle was not to be in the wedding unless he was a flower boy…and meant it…is disgusting. Carl grow some balls and move on

[@prettyparanormaljess]

Lindsey shouldnt feel bad for wanting to be a SAHM, but MOVE out of NY if your relationship is being effected by how much it costs to raise a family then move. Lindsay wants the standard of living she wants for the dream life she invisioned an I feel carl is also worried shed want to hire a nanny which is another huge expense

[@melissahernandezm379]

Danielle might actually be a sociopath

[@jackieellis5614]

The CEO part….😂😂😂😂

[@carolinadiza4571]

Lindsay complains a lot about a man who doesn't work, yet still manages to pay half her rent. Maybe it's just me, but this couple was not living in a cardboard box or struggling to make ends meet for this woman to complain so much about this man's lack of a "job."

[@SummerRoseCarter]

It's about the future, his money ain't going to last forever.

[@lisahoerr9713]

This is so laughable! These girls do 100% what they are accusing Danielle of all the time! Hahahaha! Paige acts like she is the most perfect human! Bahahaha! Tell me when she has ever been accountable for anything anytime! Never! Paige is an armchair critic from a lawn chair or the bed every episode. Seriously. It’s boring. It gets old.

[@carmellacaver2001]

Carl was no where near ready for a life with Lindsay .. guess he made the right choice 😅

[@er985327]

Honestly this convo obsession IS weird given that we know they are also paid very well for this show and so he does have a job, just could work more but like hes not bringing in zero money. Ya, I would say carl needed to figure out his life for sure, but they clearly are just better off not together.

[@julietrask7497]

I haven’t watched this show in years. Does Kyle have a mullet now? 😂 hahaha

[@espiebaiz]

Gurl you tried Lindsay and it’s all sad how it ended but it was so not meant to be. Being a mom to your future children shouldn’t scare a man away. Focus on healing boo Mr Forever is out there.

[@JB-1007]

It doesn’t seem like Linds wanted to be a stay at home mom *forever* but at least until their hypothetical baby was school-aged. When she said she needed a “break” I interpreted that to mean a break from being the breadwinner. She wanted Carl to step up and AT LEAST match her 50/50 again, if not, out earn her a bit while her focus is shifted to parenting. She has some major issues, generally speaking, from what we see on the show BUT wanting to be a present mother while children are in the infant/toddler stage is not one of those problems. Babies are expensive & she was right about every little bit ($$$) helping.

[@onlygood222]

I genuinely despise Lindsay’s personality but she is right, she is not asking for too much. We don’t like in a 50/50 world emotionally and physically as woman. Keep your standards up, Lindsay!

[@gerardguida7727]

I'm team Lindsay....😊 go get a real job Karl.....Summer house house is a limited paycheck..

[@jeanneb4129]

Introducing Danielle, the NEW Lindsay lol

[@LXS1303]

Disgusting of Carl to get with Lindsay's other exes to put her down. Vile human being.

[@michellesmith7]

I can’t help it, Lindsay’s tendency to consistently be activated cracks me up 😂 she needs to pair up with a man that doesn’t get flustered by that and can still hold their own. She suits an older man in finance or something. I don’t think Carl has ever figured out who he is, especially as a sober person.

[@andreamartineau1197]

Isssssss it a beautiful partnership if she is expected to make twice as much him, while being pregnant and then being the primary caregiver for their child...? Like what is he contributing? Is he doing all of the household labour or is she?

[@cherylfengshui]

Paige and Ciara trying to get Amanda to “work” is hilarious.

[@meganmcdonald1171]

Most countries have maternity leave and then parental leave. Maternity leave is exclusively for the person giving birth to heal. In Canada that is 15 weeks. Most women are still healing through the “4th trimester” and absolutely you should not •have• to work during that time.

[@RealOne-gg8hn]

I think all moms should be at home moms kids come out better not left with strangers day care that's how kids get abused Carl is a modern man he's not old school Carl is to femine and weak not surprised

[@____thisguyhere________]

The double standard is wild with Danielle. She always got in the middle of Lindsay’s fights. But now that she is at odds with Gabby it should stay between the two of them? She truly lacks self-awareness and is borderline delusional.

[@cuts240]

I hate the term - “narcissistic “ ( let’s thrown in “toxic “- hate as well)- bc it is used so frequently in today and life Yet, these individuals are 10x text book definition! I feel disgusted listening to all of them ! Ugh

[@cvp2000]

I doubt Carl could've handled a pregnant Lindsay😂

[@chauntelleb6947]

Lindsay is all about Lindsay. She's working the same job he is...influencer. So why come down on him when you're both doing the same job? She wants a man to take care of her

[@audhdcreativity5899]

Hahahaa! And who does all the work in the home? And organizing their lives? And, excuse me, but carrying a child is not easy and requires major recovery, but our society and partners want to ignore all that, and all we do to raise kids, usually while Dad is absent or the playmate! It's NEVER 50/50! The woman ALWAYS does more work in a marriage or committed relationship.

[@Alex-mx6mu]

Carl whats wrong with being a stay at home influencer??? Shed still make a lot of money

[@smazz1106]

Stay at home was so much work! When my daughter entered kindergarten and I worked at an insurance company my work load definitely decreased! Stay at home parents work so hard!!!!!

[@Alex-mx6mu]

TEAM LINDSAY

[@kelseywillow8110]

Lindsay just doesn’t get Carl had to give up his job at Loverboy to make a real change in his life. Just like Amanda has no real life outside of that company, Carl is experiencing the black hole now. Sobriety is more important than a career. Leave the city if you can’t have a family and the luxury lifestyle you want.

[@conceicao4468]

Team lindsey on this 💯🔥

[@sisiwasabi81]

I love Paige but Danielle said ONE thing to her that rubbed her the wrong way and then she completely turned on her and now everything she does is wrong.

[@Janet-Martin]

I cannot stand Paige or Cearia !!! 🤮🤮

[@dailirodriguez4985]

I thought the same.

[@crzyshakes127]

All it takes is one time and Danielle's audacity is astounding. She loves "being real" towards others but absolutely cannot handle it towards her. She's lucky Paige didn't keep it real go scorched earth, naming all the times Danielle was a hot f*****g mess.

[@jeanneb4129]

CANNOT stand Lindsay!!! She is such a narcissist. They shouldn't have ever hooked up. CARL needs someone who will LET him have an opinion, be HIS own person. SHE is the reason someone from AA (under a year and in the "silver lining" ) stage of sobriety SHOULD NOT hook up w ANYONE. She's a bully

[@Moisterthananoyster]

Also, , paige has a lot to say for someone who was too scared to pull craig in line on his first winterhouse entry where he was being a total ANIMAL and paige was sitting there not saying anything, not apologizing to Amanda for giving her grief about how she handled kyle when she cant even handle craig in the slightest. I went from a paige stan to a haterrrr. Shes mean and hypocritical

[@user-df4wr7qp2d]

she def handled craig cause he never pulled that shit again in fact he doesnt even drink anymore

[@nbpg8103]

Totally agree. Her boyfriend was an alcoholic mess, full of rage, and she never piped up.

[@Janet-Martin]

​@@user-df4wr7qp2d😂😂😂😂OMG YOU'RE KIDDING RIGHT ????

[@nbpg8103]

It feels like no one really likes Danielle- she’s the odd one out so much. Can’t we get rid?!

[@NicoleL.McAndrew]

Carl. Jesus Christ the excuses and excuses… GET A DAMN JOB. Or go live with Shep and Austen. And stop trying to knock Lindsay she’s someone who has always hustled despite her attitude you cannot deny she’s a worker and a hustler. Shame on you. Having IDEAS is not having a job and collecting a paycheck. GET A JOBBBBBB!

[@sarabrockett6202]

I am team Carl..Lindsy is cool🎉 but high maintenance..❤

[@orangejmoothies]

0:02 literally thought he started to talk about the "future of korea".

[@crackberrry1]

I'm a mom of 2, and I feel its dumb to over exaggerate childbirth so you can stay home because you need a break. If we are playing "What ifs" let's play all the ifs, like not being able to get pregnant ever. Not liking your kid, not wanting to stay home because of it. Being broke so you both need to work, him wanting to be a stay at home Dad.

[@cherylfengshui]

Paige doesn’t give Craig anything. Danielle on this subject is 💯 correct on this.