Carl Confirms That He Was "Holding Back" Information | Summer House After Show S8 E11 Pt. 1 | Bravo

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[@debbieshuta1854]

That’s not it…they were in the honeymoon phase and rushed to get engaged. They should have waited 2 years to get engaged.

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@@debbieshuta1854huh

[@lipkin108]

Did Carl wake up from a 5 year nap and realizes he’s on bravo?

[@paigiepie07]

😂

[@jcyensen1236]

I don't think he knows where he is. He has job trouble, relationship trouble, parent trouble and gets on Bravo and sounds like his brains are rattled. Nothing makes sense.

[@vanessarenee1018]

😂😂😂

[@nyvash4237]

Carl is no saint. The fact that he’s trying to say Lindsay was this demon that he had to put up with - after being her BFF for YEARS - is insane. He’s a child and can’t take any accountability for anything. He’s a very weak man.

[@murasakinomorado7210]

THIS🎯🎯 He is Trash!! His mother is an awful enabler!!

[@nameless.faceless.]

Him saying he’s new to relationships and that he was listening to her and she said “fighting is normal” or whatever.. don’t buy it. He plays a fool and a child so he doesn’t have to take responsibility

[@aprilrawls5162]

Thank you for saying this. People are all acting like Carl is perfect and Lindsay is the problem. I think she's been consistent. I think he's the problem.... He's immature. I'm also perplexed at why he is so upset that a woman that he is going to marry would want him to have a job? He is almost 40 years old what woman would want to be in a relationship with a man with no job....no one would. Women want security.

[@nyvash4237]

@@aprilrawls5162 honestly, the season Jules was on and Carl slept with her and then treated her like a stalker told me everything I need to know about Carl. He’s a joke.

[@aprilrawls5162]

@@nyvash4237 absolutely true!

[@kennedystewart5064]

Just the repressed smirks Carl has on his face as he talks about this … I’m new to this show (watched 7, this season, 1, and 2) and I really want to hug Lindsay.

[@JuliaB1955]

You are very astute!

[@Missmam_micdrop]

I’m team nobody. Carl is obviously a horrible communicator and Lindsey is narcissistic. They were never compatible

[@christinablacken3043]

Facts. It’s wild to see people picking one side as if they both don’t have very clear toxic traits.

[@nameless.faceless.]

For real! When I hear people defend Carl I’m like are we really gonna let a 40 year old man act like this is his first relationship and he’s just so lost and knows nothing? It’s strange.

[@zakiyyah222]

Same !!!!!

[@kimmykatzenberger8031]

I feel like they knew it......Lindsay is so dramatic, sometimes it is overwhelming

[@natalielefebvre1628]

She is not a narcissist. It not bc a woman knows what she wants it mean she is narcissist. She is to stro.g for him bc this guy is week and immature.

[@lipkin108]

What I don’t understand why Carl ask Lindsay to marry her when he obviously didn’t want to from the beginning

[@bt2598]

Yea it was a big lead on idk I feel like once the rubber hit the road he was looking for ways out.

[@saraeemmm]

To stay relevant on the show

[@Justme0288]

To be fair they didn’t “diss” her. They saw their son struggling and gave him advice that ANY PARENT WOULD. Well, my mom would. Because ending a relationship is a lot easier than ending a marriage. I’m sorry, but she doesn’t seem like the easiest person to live with and yes, couples fight for couples don’t fight this much before they’re getting married. That’s a red flag. Carl handed it all wrong but I don’t think he was wrong for ending.

[@CS-pi5oc]

U bet they see their son’s limitations that added to his parent’s concerns. He’s a bucket of mess. Who goes to see his parents to dump his problems re: his relationship? Imagine them as parents?

[@debbieshuta1854]

I agree. Lyndsay making a big deal about carls mom not taking to her about concerns is crazy bc what mother in law goes to the daughter in law w concerns? They would be franker with their son. That’s normal..it’s up tk Carl to have the conversation w her…not the mother in law. Talking separately to the Lyndsay would be meddling.

[@ola3rd]

Exactly! Notice how Carl even took accountability here with how horrible a job he did discussing it with Lindsay. It's interesting how incapable she on the other hand is to ever take accountability on any little thing

[@leylaharry2493]

Exactly. Shes just showing how limited her perspective and inability to empathise is with that comment

[@BerryFlair]

Honestly good parents/parents-in-law are good mediators. His parents are not. Instead of helping him get to the bottom of their issues, they helped him pin it on his partner. A blind person could see their issues, it’s not one sided.

[@taniabluebell3099]

Carl and his word salad. I don’t know how Lindsay put up with it. She’s the one who dodged a bullet, not Carl.

[@lisaspence5672]

Lol if he hadn't called off the wedding, she'd be married to him. So I guess he wasn't too bad since she so badly wanted to marry him

[@taniabluebell3099]

She probably would’ve had a different take if he wasn’t purposely confusing her with the Word salad method. Carl stand are interesting

[@murasakinomorado7210]

🎯🎯! He is SO ENTITLED with misogynistic attitudes!!

[@nameless.faceless.]

when he said “she said every couple fights, I’m new to relationships” huh?! you’re acting like you’re an 18 year old BOY. you’re a man, stop the dumb pathetic bullshit. classic weaponization of incompetence.. kind of what he does with jobs too.

[@laurac9857]

Omg yes he just talks and talks and literally says nothing or the same thing in 5 different ways. So annnoying

[@appalachianfamilyrecipes4647]

Carl used this conversation to break things off because he wasn’t man enough to end it himself, he waited for his parents to take the fall.

[@marrrobinson4716]

How did he know his parents were going to say that ?

[@lisabrang6046]

Lindsey has a history of histrionic , rude and demeaning behavior/ Carl is no peach, however he seems to have self awareness of how his actions affect others .. Lindsey not so much .. she is the forever victim

[@JuliaB1955]

Exactly.

[@saraw112]

@@marrrobinson4716I think Carl and his parents planned their porch chat BEFORE it was on camera. No doubt in my mind!

[@chrislynnnyasia2631]

I think yall are so desperately trying to vilanized him for ending it the way he knew how 🤷🏽‍♀️we all can agree this needed to end , if it was up to her they’d still be to together

[@michaelshinners6847]

Carl PLAYED Lyndsay and played her good. She doesn't really even see it yet. He basically blamed her for his slacker persona by making everyone hate her and then being like I "have so much to deal with because everyone hates her!" Old school slacker game baby! 🍼

[@danyablankenship1616]

I totally disagree with you, have you watched this show from day one? If not take look… if you have I think you must be watching with your eyes and ears closed.

[@christinablacken3043]

Both Lindsay and Carl are poor communicators. Idk why the audience wants to villanize one of them as the key issue here. Lindsay is extremely reactive, self absorbed, and defensive. Carl is passive and conflict avoidant and has low self esteem. Also them being on reality tv adds a layer that most folks would never want to deal with or would have to - revealing private convos to folks that don’t need to hear them (like parents being concerned about the wedding etc).

[@Missmam_micdrop]

💯 💯 💯

[@danasillers7196]

Completely agree particularly about the vilinizaing. I am happy for both of them that they figured it out before their wedding day. I can't imagine the pressure they were facing, especially when you factor in their ages and reality TV show presence. Wish them both the best.

[@kelseywillow8110]

Well said

[@mjhorner1496]

Carl saying he cares about other peoples feelings is WILD.

[@evelynoshae7781]

Stop gaslighting us, Carl! He went there deliberately being evasive about his fiancée and blaming them for his decision. He couldn't hide his facial expressions when Lou gave him a way out, he was relieved that they gave him ON CAMERA a reason to flee. COWARD.

[@athena4519]

Carl wants a girl to hold his hand and baby him. Tell him he's doing a great job no matter what, even if he is 40, unemployed and doesn't know what he wants to be when he grows up. Lindsay is not that girl. She's a tell me what you want to do and I'll make sure we get there. Probably in an overbearing kinda way for some people. She wants a go-getter kinda guy that has his shyte figured out but was willing to work with carl because she loved him. I think carl needs to grow up a bit (at 40) and Lindsay needs to soften up.

[@nameless.faceless.]

THIS. This is it entirely. To me, it’s also very unattractive how he feigns ignorance and can’t take responsibility for anything. He acts 18.

[@TheMerFree]

I applaud Craig for being honest about his needs and goals/timeline for marriage and children. Paige needs to understand it’s about more than her.

[@PICARDY610]

NOPE SHE CANT. CRAIG IS THE DONKEY BEING LED BY THE CARROT.

[@prima-madalina]

you guys are falling for carls plot… he didn’t want to marry Lindsey and made his parents the fall guys. Why did he randomly go to jersey shore to film with them? It was his idea

[@shannonmillikin463]

I thought Lindsay was pretty calm, when he told her. But here he is, bashing her again.

[@westinhesse4245]

Right!!!! What an idiot

[@Blaire13_14]

Also if Paige loves Craig as much as she says then let that man go because he is ready to settle down and start a family 🙃

[@ZEBEEtheoriginal]

Because she hit him to that place.

[@PICARDY610]

ALL I HEAR FROM PAIGE IS ME ME ME, MINE, MINE MINE, I I I . CRAIG DATES FEMINIST WOMAN WITH BALLS. THEY ARE NOT HIS TYPE AT ALL. THE LAST ONE WORE THE PANTS AS WELL, STEAMROLLERS. TAKES 50/50 TO MAKE A PARTNERSHIP

[@jr90450]

Everyone talking about how toxic Lindsay and Carl's relationship is and that they should have never been together. Have y'all seen Kyle and Amanda's relationship? Seems like they shouldn't be together. Lindsay may get activated at times when she drinks, but Carl is battling drinking and drugs. He also takes the inner workings of his relationship to his friends and parents seems like ALL THE TIME. No bueno. Who has the bigger baggage here?

[@laurac9857]

Lmao since when is Carl new to relationships? 😂

[@scampbell713]

If Carl didn't want to be with Linds, fine. But man up and just say "this isn't what I wanted" instead of constantly blaming his parents for HIS decision

[@prima-madalina]

Exactly!!

[@Laurendica]

I absolutely adore Paige, but yes Paige, Craig CAN decide when he has children. When he wants them and you don't, you'll part ways

[@LXS1303]

Oh and Carl, get a job.

[@murasakinomorado7210]

Only his friends will employ him, he is lazy, inconsistent and unreliable as well as entitled.

[@dillycurls9853]

You’re watching him at his job

[@bizzy1586]

The concern was for the relationship in general not just Lindsay. Carl has some issues as well.

[@truthhurts8819]

Gabby is ridiculous, she should give Danielle that same energy that she gives Carl. Gabby is Lindsay new enabler.

[@jeanneb4129]

EXACTLY!

[@BesosBlippin]

there it is

[@classyconversationswithrho344]

He's not emotionally mature enough to be in any relationship. Instead of talking to everybody else, talk to his woman! It was totally a blind side. Lindsay has every right, to want him to get his life together. She was supportive and understanding long enough with his endeavors.

[@a.m.3921]

It's so interesting to watch Lindsay distort this whole situation. She sums it up to Carls' parents "talking badly" about her. No, they were sharing their concerns with their son who was visibly suffering in their presence. THIS, my dear, is why Carl was hesitant to talk to her about anything serious or concerning. She has a very keen way of making herself a victim in any and ALL circumstances. So glad Carl had the courage to get the hell away from her. TOXIC.

[@natalysentifconson-zj2gx]

I agree with you. Lindsay is such a manipulator! I hate to see how she manipulates each of her subsequent boyfriend so that he does everything the way it suits her. It gets to the point where all her boyfriends start to be afraid of her. They are afraid to say an extra word to her, so that she will not be offended. She loves to make herself look like a victim and constantly find fault with her boyfriends. Lindsay perceives and treats her boyfriends, in this case, the fiance, not as the most wonderful person in the world, whom she wants to put on a pedestal, but as a thing that she bought and this thing should work 100% for her. Lindsay squeezes all the juices out of her boyfriends until they start running away from her. This is not love. Love is when you love your fiance the way he is, and you don't constantly try to find fault with him. Apparently Lindsay won't understand this.

[@evolee82]

Lindsay dodged a bullet

[@dcoleman4444]

Paige: "Ok, when Craig's ovaries come in he can decide when he wants to have a baby.. ok?" THAT is the attitude that is going to lose Craig. Guess what Paige, Craig has a say in what he wants for his life. HE HAS A SAY. Also, your beauty and youth won't last forever. You think you are all that and a bag of chips...you're not, so good luck and don't be crying and hurt when he dumps you. You act like a Princess and we are over you.

[@1sTEfFaniE1]

I'm pretty team Paige but that was a shitty thing to say. Men shouldn't be shamed for having goals involving family and children.

[@Shevan08]

HE WILL TELL THEIR KIDS THAT PANDAS ARE HUMANS IN BEAR SUITS. DO NOT PROCREATE WITH HIM PAIGE.

[@lallana2882]

OK. Better than her having children when she is not ready. But I guess the guy wanting children outweighs the woman who has to carry and birth thems feelings. Typical.

[@lallana2882]

​@@1sTEfFaniE1and women shouldn't be shamed for not wanting kids on a man's timeline.

[@mariat6171]

Definitely thinks she's all that and a bag of chips - NOT.

[@jill1452]

Carl 100% made the right decision… he would’ve had a lifetime of fighting with Lindsay or just giving in to her (unfortunately).

[@aprilrawls5162]

He's lazy and doesn't want to get a real job. Most self-respecting women would have an issue with this.

[@natalysentifconson-zj2gx]

I agree with you. Lindsay is such a manipulator! I hate to see how she manipulates each of her subsequent boyfriend so that he does everything the way it suits her. It gets to the point where all her boyfriends start to be afraid of her. They are afraid to say an extra word to her, so that she will not be offended. She loves to make herself look like a victim and constantly find fault with her boyfriends. Lindsay perceives and treats her boyfriends, in this case, the fiance, not as the most wonderful person in the world, whom she wants to put on a pedestal, but as a thing that she bought and this thing should work 100% for her. Lindsay squeezes all the juices out of her boyfriends until they start running away from her. This is not love. Love is when you love your fiance the way he is, and you don't constantly try to find fault with him. Apparently Lindsay won't understand this.

[@dedub4068]

Carl, yes you’re a terrible communicator but it’s beyond passive aggressive to suggest you’re holding back negative informatio. You will find someone and I pity her.

[@lisafehlman221]

Carl's parents shouldn't be contacting her. That would have been weird.

[@AquaGirl953]

I foresee a Jesse and Lindsay hookup. Carl and his mom are avoidant communicators, and completely mishandled this situation. However, it was going to be messy regardless and I don’t believe they had any ill intentions towards Lindsay. Paige and Ciara are the ones who need to be kicked off the pedestal they have placed themselves on.

[@22LA22]

Spit out the marbles, Carl and get a job.

[@noahprobz]

The fact that Lindsay thinks Carl’s parents expressing concerns is them taking shit and dissing her says a lot about how she perceives reality

[@BesosBlippin]

THIS

[@VintageLPs]

Not really. Carl’s mother completely talked out of the other side of her mouth at the shower.

[@kimmykatzenberger8031]

​@VintageLPs at the end of the day she was supporting Carl and Lindsay even if she knew they were toxic

[@sephora_b]

Am new at relationships? I don’t know how relationships work? Really Carl? You’re in your 40s. If you don’t know how relationships work then maybe you shouldn’t have gotten engaged.

[@TiviM561]

Carl is a mama boy! Kyle needs to fix his relationship and stop with the advice

[@1Life2Live007]

What parent doesn’t have their own concerns and opinions!? It’s being turned into this horrible conversation. And that’s just not what happened.

[@mariat6171]

I do not think the women are going to be lining up for Carl a 40-year-old momma's boy with no job.

[@PICARDY610]

HE HAS WORK TO DO BEING SOBER, BUT CARL MADE $70,000 IN BRAND DEALS PLUS SUMMER HOUSE MONEY. NOT LIKE HE IS HEADING FOR FOOD STAMPS OR BREAD LINES

[@Amystewart199]

Craig please find someone else! Paige should be with someone who never wants to grow up!

[@iamjoshdouglas]

Being a reality TV star is not an easy profession...

[@RobRomeo73]

I like both of them but it’s very clear Craig is outgrowing Paige

[@kimmykatzenberger8031]

Don't see that.....hope your wrong

[@haley2926]

It’s not carls parents fault he didn’t communicate and ditched her. He is the one to blame. Carls parents are not bad for cutting off communication after their break up, it’s between Lindsay and Carl

[@shannonmillikin463]

If it was between Lindsay and Carl then they shouldn’t have dropped the ball. They lit a fire, Lindsay was hurt and they walked away and let the fire burn.

[@haley2926]

@@shannonmillikin463 I see your point, but at the end of the day he is a 40 year old man and can choose whether to listen to his parents advice or not.

[@mariat6171]

Kyle the resident drunk should not talk about anyone else's drinking.

[@prima-madalina]

Lindsey can definitely be insufferable but I can’t help but feel bad for her… she has some very deep serious wounds from her mothers rejection that need to heal, like Kenya Moore. She ALWAYS feels attacked and is in fight mode because she’s been conditioned to believe no one is on her side- if her own mother isn’t on her side, why would anyone else be (that’s the voice in her head).

[@Dane2024Bmore]

Thank you for this.....I've been waiting for someone to address her wounds from childhood.

[@PurpleRain11.11]

This woman is a narcissist. The way she avoided speaking to his mom while she was sitting right next to her at the bridal shower. All the while, speaking about the situation on purpose to her step mom. That’s his mom, he has every right to speak about what’s going on in life. He escaped a bullet!! Thank god!! It was hard to watch her gaslight him.

[@natalysentifconson-zj2gx]

Well said! I agree with you 100%. Lindsay is such a manipulator! I hate to see how she manipulates each of her subsequent boyfriend so that he does everything the way it suits her. It gets to the point where all her boyfriends start to be afraid of her. They are afraid to say an extra word to her, so that she will not be offended. She loves to make herself look like a victim and constantly find fault with her boyfriends. Lindsay perceives and treats her boyfriends, in this case, the fiance, not as the most wonderful person in the world, whom she wants to put on a pedestal, but as a thing that she bought and this thing should work 100% for her. Lindsay squeezes all the juices out of her boyfriends until they start running away from her. This is not love. Love is when you love your fiance the way he is, and you don't constantly try to find fault with him. Apparently Lindsay won't understand this.

[@jojokitty0073]

@PurpleRain11.11 I'm so glad you brought this up! Lindsey absolutely had written off Sharon and was actively avoiding her. The "ick" was palpable!!!

[@natalysentifconson-zj2gx]

@@jojokitty0073 You're right. I didn't like the way Lindsay behaved with Sharon either. I think it was disgusting behavior on Lindsay's part.

[@larabarney3224]

No Lindsay was having a convo with her OWN step mother. Carls mom butted in and then made a snarky comment about one of carls exs. Are we watching the same show?

[@okand5138]

@@larabarney3224 his mom is fake af

[@jaymewithhawaii]

I never thought I’d be on Lindsay’s side at this point in season 😂

[@donnawilson6563]

Nobody called or texted you because they know what would have happened. She would have flipped out and they didn’t need that in there lives.

[@aj.a1845]

To be honest I agree with Carl’s parents. Lindsay is a master at gaslighting. We’ve seen a dozen of her past relationships blow up. BUT Carl should have dumped her off camera.

[@marydalton5752]

Lindsay is a ball of fire when she drinks torching everyone in sight. She should give up drinking and keep her head clear!

[@MissLauren20]

Carl smiles when he talks of how hard this breakup will be for Lindsay. I don’t like Carl at all!

[@Blaire13_14]

Lindsay didn’t grow up with her mother so she reminds me of Kenya Moore tbh ! They both can be so nasty and dismissive! She only care about herself , watch her and Gabby fall out later .

[@lonniebuczko8108]

Yup

[@Jamiechanrunsfar]

Isnt Lou his step dad of only a couple of years? Why is he making these statements and why is Carl calling him dad already? Seems manipulative and inappropriate.

[@-Tori_Lynne-]

Right? I find that kind of odd.

[@chamobot]

In the moment, it was so telling to see Lindsay try to pick a fight while Carl is apologizing for a tough conversation he had. Like in the middle of Carl apologizing (as he should he handled it completely wrong) she is escalating things. Even I was getting annoyed like girl he’s literally admitting to being wrong like stop jumping on him Jesus

[@michaelrichardi6047]

Carl used this season to make Lyndsey look crazy and emotional.

[@PICARDY610]

SHE WAS CRAZY THE MOMENT THE SHOW AIRED! HOW MANY MEN HAS SHE BEEN THRU?? SHE WAS EVEN PREGO. CARL CHOSE HIS LONG TIME FRIEND, SOMEONE HE COULD TRUST THRU HIS SOBER EXISTENCE. ERRRRR XXX WRONGO

[@megchelednik7346]

At their age, I had a successful business, a beautiful home, 2 amazing children and a husband of 15 years... They're freaking me out! 40-ish on paper, 18 in action.... Wish them all the luck in the world 😳😬

[@drluvv]

Sorry but I think Lou over stepped. Being he is fairly new on the scene I feel like his desire to give substantial advice overshadowed what he said.

[@PICARDY610]

EVEN THE MOTHER-IN LAW WAS AFRAID TO KICK THE HORNETS NEST. ANYTHING TRIGGERS THE BEAST

[@steph8407]

Why would Lindsey want his parents to talk to her after? Girl their not your parents they dont owe you nothing. I learned this the hard way with my mother in law she's nice in my face but talks behind my back to my husband, I just decided what's best is to step away from that situation because it's not easy on my man and I see how bothered he gets and even argues with her

[@noahprobz]

“I felt like I was going insane! Like I’m insane!!” Well Lindsay… you are so

[@arianacortes2418]

Craig is too good for Paige. I SAID WHAT I SAID !

[@NewCreationInChrist896]

Carl is forever explaining himself. Romans 10:13

[@jeffreyh9908]

i’m team no one. she is hard to deal with and he has no backbone. also, he is a trash bag and talks about his dates like they are nothing. like ur clearly not ready so i wouldn’t want my friend to date u either

[@VeeCruz5]

Carl’s parents did nothing wrong…. Carl however just needs to man the eff up and just admit he doesn’t want to marry her. Telling her she was spiraling was him trying to gas light her just like when she says he’s mad when he wasn’t. They are both narcissists just tryna out narc the other. This was never going to work from the jump

[@evelinel.9827]

Carl needs to get in touch with himself. If he had been honest with himself none of this would have happened--he wouldn't have gotten engaged!!! He needs some deep emotional work to become comfortable with his emotions and then he will be ok with other people's emotions.

[@truthhurts8819]

Lindsay is a great actress, she knew it was not going to work with Carl. First Lindsay was being rude to Carl mother at that bridal shower. Carl showed up to that bridal shower to see how Lindsay was treating his mom. Notice when Carl told Lindsay he wanted to talk to her privately Lindsay started saying Carl was angry. I notice Lindsay start saying things like aggressive or angry any time Carl wanted to talk away from the group. Lindsay is a dangerous type of female. Love Ciara, Paige, and Amanda.

[@tracy_222]

Carl is kind of a wimp! He should have told Lindsey earlier. I never thought they would work out. Carl Acts so weird now that he doesn’t drink. He needs to go to therapy on his own. He hasn’t gotten over his drinking problems.

[@laurac9857]

He is a coward 100

[@wtfrlly]

I don’t think Carl handled that too bad in terms of not wanting to tell Lindsay. Yes he told her the partial truth but I just think he just does not like confrontation which I understand. Lindsay isn’t easy to talk to and he doesn’t want to get her activated. She does this thing of saying “I can’t have emotions when talking to Carl” which yes you can but you also take it to another level and don’t allow to really speak or get his point across.

[@natalysentifconson-zj2gx]

I agree with you. Lindsay is such a manipulator! I hate to see how she manipulates each of her subsequent boyfriend so that he does everything the way it suits her. It gets to the point where all her boyfriends start to be afraid of her. They are afraid to say an extra word to her, so that she will not be offended. She loves to make herself look like a victim and constantly find fault with her boyfriends. Lindsay perceives and treats her boyfriends, in this case, the fiance, not as the most wonderful person in the world, whom she wants to put on a pedestal, but as a thing that she bought and this thing should work 100% for her. Lindsay squeezes all the juices out of her boyfriends until they start running away from her. This is not love. Love is when you love your fiance the way he is, and you don't constantly try to find fault with him. Apparently Lindsay won't understand this.

[@Glutenfree123]

I hope Lindsay is okay. She looks significantly thinner than when she was on the show.

[@donnawilson6563]

She’s on the prowl again for her next victim.

[@lallana2882]

Likely the same reason the majority of the entertainment industry are losing weight so fast and significantly these days...

[@onomonopoeia]

I've said it before, the 'divorce' diet is real. For me it involved an increase of beverages and zero appetite. Some people are stress eaters, some of us are the opposite. 🤷

[@kimalexander268]

@@donnawilson6563She fine, she says exactly what she means to say in every situation. Most people just beat around the bush and try to sugar coat or hide things. Most woman sit around and gossip about other woman exactly like these woman on Summer House, Paige thinks she’s above everyone else and constantly gripes Lindsay

[@aprilrawls5162]

She looks better than ever!

[@amberjackson9902]

I'm on Lindsay's side. Carl is immature, a people pleaser, and a victim.

[@lipkin108]

happy Sunday! Looking forward to watching the aftershow and Lindsay gaslighting herself

[@paulinedwyer4217]

The parents weren’t taking bad about Lindsey , they were having concerns about them getting married and getting into a lot of fights too close to the wedding.

[@-Tori_Lynne-]

His step dad called her abusive on national TV, without ever hearing her side of their relationship AND we are supposed to take him seriously bc he has counciled couples bf marriage before?! He honestly seems unqualified after doing this... She isn't allowed to have a feeling about that???

[@ameliaschenk]

I became team Lindsay after watching, Carl was manipulative and talked behind her back knowing his friends were never her true friends. I will not watch another season of Carl.

[@antiargy]

Carl needs to grow up

[@M2161]

Carl and Lindsay both are delusional

[@babybluecheeks]

Carl, you're a 40-year-old man. How do you not know how relationships work?. Stop acting like a man child. He acts like such a victim.

[@StephanieS3062]

I really hope this reunion they split screen last reunion to this reunion and how Carl and Lindsey treated each other to how they spoke and treat each other now. Everyone must concur the breakup is the best thing for Carl .

[@TeresaBoers]

Add Karl’s weed to lover Boy😮

[@-Tori_Lynne-]

... BuT hEs SoBeR!! lol Sry so many ppl use that as some feat but he's not actually clean. lol

[@rageintothelight]

I think Paige is too conceited and self absorbed to have a baby. Poor Craig needs to find someone who is a sweet southern girl who wants a family not the New Yorker who only wants what she wants and could care less about him.

[@cherieroberts3502]

Lindsay’s narcissism and her underlying other issues make her impossible to be in a healthy relationship.

[@sandraoleary9371]

Carl has a soft heart, Lindsey is just so combative, he literally fears her responses...

[@lisaspence5672]

Seeing people in the comments stick up for her is insane to me! She's making him out to be a loser, a loser she so badly wanted to marry

[@athena4519]

​@lisaspence5672 you're too invested. This is like the third comment I've seen you under lol. No one is bad here. They were just not compatible.

[@natalysentifconson-zj2gx]

Sandra Oleary I agree with you. Lindsay is such a manipulator! I hate to see how she manipulates each of her subsequent boyfriend so that he does everything the way it suits her. It gets to the point where all her boyfriends start to be afraid of her. They are afraid to say an extra word to her, so that she will not be offended. She loves to make herself look like a victim and constantly find fault with her boyfriends. Lindsay perceives and treats her boyfriends, in this case, the fiance, not as the most wonderful person in the world, whom she wants to put on a pedestal, but as a thing that she bought and this thing should work 100% for her. Lindsay squeezes all the juices out of her boyfriends until they start running away from her. This is not love. Love is when you love your fiance the way he is, and you don't constantly try to find fault with him. Apparently Lindsay won't understand this.

[@lisaspence5672]

@athena4519 Oh please, you're being a bit dramatic 🙄 if you're trolling my comments that hard to keep count, You're obviously bothered by what I said, so just keep scrolling

[@lisaspence5672]

@@athena4519 This isn't even your first comment here either 🤣

[@Chili1976]

when Kyle is the voice of reason, u know u ****ed 😂

[@L4Lxo]

They were just not meant to be. Period. And I think Lindsay self sabotages ...deep down it may have been that she just loved the idea of being married. Now they can move on to their next phase in life. All the best to them both ✌️

[@bizzy1586]

Be FRFR…you will not hear my me after you and my child broke up. The relationship dissolved and so is our connection. I wish you the best.

[@Nicole38401]

Why would Carl's parents contact Lindsay after the break up? When I broke up with an ex, I would have been baffled if my parents felt the need to contact him.

[@lovelao7615]

Carl has a lot of work to do on himself. He needs to surround run himself with some strong minded Christian men that can help him.

[@iloveyouuuu135]

As usual, Lindsay’s worst enemy is herself, and Carl is lost in the sauce. A classic case scenario.

[@louandjay1]

Truth is they don’t like her, shes toxic so i get it !

[@Tquin55]

Lindsey is living in an alternate universe to make herself the victim. Saying she is never allowed to express her feelings when she literally machine guns her drama to everyone in the house every time she is slightly “activated”. Also saying his parents talked badly about her is BS. They didn’t. They expressed concern over what they were seeing in the relationship. Her bragging that her parents would never do that only shows that her parents don’t give the craps about her. I feel so lucky that my parents gave me their thoughts through my life. They never told me what to do, but they would express things they see. They have been married for decades and have much more experience in what it takes to be successful. I’m sorry that Lindsey doesn’t have anyone in her life who is honest or brave enough to give honest feedback.

[@natalysentifconson-zj2gx]

Very well said! I agree with you. I'm glad Carl's mother and stepfather gave him advice. The advice came at the right time, just in time. Lindsay is such a manipulator! I hate to see how she manipulates each of her subsequent boyfriend so that he does everything the way it suits her. It gets to the point where all her boyfriends start to be afraid of her. They are afraid to say an extra word to her, so that she will not be offended. She loves to make herself look like a victim and constantly find fault with her boyfriends. Lindsay perceives and treats her boyfriends, in this case, the fiance, not as the most wonderful person in the world, whom she wants to put on a pedestal, but as a thing that she bought and this thing should work 100% for her. Lindsay squeezes all the juices out of her boyfriends until they start running away from her. This is not love. Love is when you love your fiance the way he is, and you don't constantly try to find fault with him. Apparently Lindsay won't understand this.

[@craftyfoodie-3333]

@@natalysentifconson-zj2gx lmao...why are you copying and pasting the same comment over and over....

[@natalysentifconson-zj2gx]

CraftyFoodie I want to support everyone who supports Carl in the situation with Lindsay. Because Lindsay is a narcissist. She can only love herself. She has treated all her boyfriends on the show badly since the first season. The boyfriends are not the problem. She is the problem. And she is absolutely lying when she says she was blindsided. In my opinion, Lindsay has gone too far with her lies. She needs to stop drinking, change her therapist, stop lying and treat her boyfriends badly, otherwise she will definitely be a lonely person for the rest of her life.

[@julezett]

"She said: "This is how relationships are." - I am new to relationships." Lindsay is...bad, but Carl is a clown 🤡

[@Dan-n-Butters]

Didnt understand all of that but oookaaaayy?

[@helenclare1207]

Do these women make their own clothes?😂

[@michelletimme8041]

Agree with others, I'm not on a team. Carl does has trauma from communicating with Lindsey in the past. Her getting activated- unable to handle feedback and turns aggressive. And Lindsey also has trauma from Carl being dishonest in the past. I do hope to see them both move on and be successful in future relationships. They both want families. But I predict Lindsey will spiral like Danielle, try to turn back time and be 25.

[@ohsosassssy]

I was screaming justice for Carl and now I’m sitting quietly in the back …. Team Lindsey

[@lisawatkins8801]

Neither Carl nor Lindsay are ready for marriage. They can't be honest with themselves, let alone their partner. They both just want to "white knuckle" their way through a bad relationship in order to reach the social milestone of marriage. Both of them have a long way to go.

[@DaughterLayLay]

Girlllll, Didn’t nobody diss you. Y’all wasn’t suppose to be married the way it was going on the show. I hate that she keeps acting like this man just blindsided her when it seemed like they were never on the same page. Girl sit down.

[@ChristinaMaxwell-lx2ip]

If Lindsey is in PR she should absolutely understand what Jesse’s Investor Relations job is, that’s kind of embarrassing if she really doesn’t know. Investor Relations is pretty much an internal PR person.

[@ZoeBellanfante-g1c]

as people we are broken through different situations, and we truly need healing , this starts with admitting to yourself this is not right , what is causing this reaction, why im i reacting like this. i truly believe we need Jesus . we cannot continue to live a life in a healthier manner without guidance that is sound, people can lie , people can be bias , but God sees through it all and he understands. so i hope everyone on this show really take the steps on working on themselves. no one is above getting help.

[@lillyflower2994]

Carl is a child. 🙄 Mommy’s boy 😉

[@KaraMcnulty-nh6lx]

Off topic…but what is going on with Carls teeth..

[@mariat6171]

Bucky beaver.

[@annes1374]

Let’s remember she just accused him of NOT being sober, was horrible. She doesn’t get it if she doesn’t know why his family was concerned about Carl and that they are close. Have have been through so much! She can’t understand why his parents are in his business.

[@-Tori_Lynne-]

He isn't sober. He still does some substances.