What Browser to Use? About Browser Isolation

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Rob Braxman Tech

Rob Braxman Tech

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@SpiritintheSky.
@SpiritintheSky. Жыл бұрын
This video may be three years old but it still fascinates and opens your eyes. Thank you, Mr Braxman.
@Mortum_Rex
@Mortum_Rex 4 жыл бұрын
This man is an Internet treasure.
@sarita3337
@sarita3337 4 жыл бұрын
A hero!
@thatsworrisome
@thatsworrisome 3 жыл бұрын
I concur, but more than that Rob's a human treasure, born for such a time as this, for all of US.
@catalinaleon8040
@catalinaleon8040 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatsworrisome llo no se acerlo no vale estoy un piso chico no funciona vale
@Sayonara301
@Sayonara301 2 жыл бұрын
Long live Rob!
@Yes-uf2je
@Yes-uf2je Жыл бұрын
Что за 💩на Аве?
@binaryglitch64
@binaryglitch64 4 жыл бұрын
Sir, I've been preaching this for years I call it browsing compartmentalization but your term is way better and you explain it better too... you've done me a huge service, I can now just point people here. Thank you so much.
@CrucesNomad1
@CrucesNomad1 4 жыл бұрын
I love this guy.
@HighSpeedNoDrag
@HighSpeedNoDrag 4 жыл бұрын
Master!
@beeleobrennan8170
@beeleobrennan8170 4 жыл бұрын
@Rob Braxman Tech - When we are all held down and forcibly injected within the next few weeks, will we not be 'owned, tracked, traced and completely controlled' via our own bodies ultimately making your information on other devices moot??
@vivekjindal578
@vivekjindal578 4 жыл бұрын
i love him more
@zumamaya2396
@zumamaya2396 4 жыл бұрын
@@HighSpeedNoDrag get a room😄😄😄
@HighSpeedNoDrag
@HighSpeedNoDrag 4 жыл бұрын
@@zumamaya2396 What about the viewers saying they Love him?
@ngimatashi
@ngimatashi 4 жыл бұрын
That dislike is from google
@conscienciapositiva8706
@conscienciapositiva8706 4 жыл бұрын
Or from associates 😊
@gagaklumayung7995
@gagaklumayung7995 4 жыл бұрын
From zuckerberg
@forthehomies
@forthehomies 4 жыл бұрын
That's hilarious :D
@ImplosiveCatt
@ImplosiveCatt 3 жыл бұрын
The guy is a little confused. Maybe that's the reason for dislikes.
@m.r.rodriguez141
@m.r.rodriguez141 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely someone asociated with their ways.
@azxctbygalumbo9516
@azxctbygalumbo9516 4 жыл бұрын
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh, google stopped saying "dont be evil" years ago. Now they suppress elections against anti-globalist candidates and censor dissidents.
@fredjones43
@fredjones43 4 жыл бұрын
i would give you a thumbs up, but in view of what Rob says. i think I will just say, Yes! You are so right
@valeriehancotte-galan4790
@valeriehancotte-galan4790 4 жыл бұрын
@@fredjones43 haaaaaa
@valeriehancotte-galan4790
@valeriehancotte-galan4790 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is phenomenal! Btw, not very high tech, how do I change my to a "screen name so my real name doesn't appear on pages?? Android phone
@thmphll
@thmphll 4 жыл бұрын
No, you all just misunderstood.. That was an order for everyone else. "don't be evil, by believing anything we don't want you to believe" see, that's what it really means.
@MansterBear
@MansterBear 4 жыл бұрын
@@valeriehancotte-galan4790 Go change it on your actual Google account. You have a Google Account, and under that is KZbin. I believe you have to change it on the Google Account itself
@jeffm6342
@jeffm6342 4 жыл бұрын
Where have you been all my life? You make this internet stuff so much easier to understand. I'm definitely making changes thanks to you.
@MrBrianDuga
@MrBrianDuga 3 жыл бұрын
You just simplified my life. All those years trying to do complicated things to protect my privacy. Thanks man.
@NeverMetTheGuy
@NeverMetTheGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Only found your channel two days ago, and already love your content. You've been blowing my mind, and offering different options than what I've typically done.
@robbraxmantech
@robbraxmantech 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@Alexanderkermani
@Alexanderkermani 4 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. Been binge watching Rob Braxman videos for weeks.
@ImHeadshotSniper
@ImHeadshotSniper 4 жыл бұрын
you're incredibly smart and wise Rob! this is one of the most important things google and facebook users should be concerned about without a doubt. you brought up an incredibly real and fantastic point, "ad targeting today can be used for any kind of message targetting tomorrow."
@nicotinekitty1275
@nicotinekitty1275 4 жыл бұрын
I stumbled across this channel purely by accident but THANK GOODNESS! Simple. Easy. Effective.
@jackbloznowski5429
@jackbloznowski5429 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is the first lecture in 50 years that I didn't loose attention after 10 minutes.
@gamingcollection270
@gamingcollection270 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, when I saw it, I thought this is a gift. Just the right video at the right time for me. Thank you very much.
@lennyaltamura2009
@lennyaltamura2009 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I know a lot of what you are saying, but I get some great insight here and there. I'm very happy that you are sharing and educating the rest. Keep it going and God Speed!
@robbraxmantech
@robbraxmantech 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@johnc.5881
@johnc.5881 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Rob, we love what you do! Don't stop!
@Lukenukkem
@Lukenukkem 2 жыл бұрын
@16:43, Never use or entrust your passwords to any password save page or password manager. Always protect your passwords, keep them hidden and out of the hands of others.
@seekyefirstknowledge9127
@seekyefirstknowledge9127 4 жыл бұрын
This was pure gold. I’d take it further. Use device isolation. A different computer for each service.
@rathkhan1114
@rathkhan1114 Жыл бұрын
Rob is a legend. Freedom and privacy should be important to everyone.
@ajwagers
@ajwagers 4 жыл бұрын
You need to write a book with all this info, unfortunately it will probably go out-of-date very fast.
@robbraxmantech
@robbraxmantech 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@markconger8049
@markconger8049 4 жыл бұрын
@@robbraxmantech - what are your thoughts on the Rumble video platform? I just learned about it yesterday and know nothing about it as compared to YT and such. Thank you for any info.
@laptopdragon
@laptopdragon 4 жыл бұрын
what's this thing you call "a book"?
@brokenbackcoil3777
@brokenbackcoil3777 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, i have just discovered your channel. I did the fingerprint test you coded, my vpn is holding yet a lot of informations are avalaible, amazing! Great work. Bye.
@KasperSOlesen
@KasperSOlesen 4 жыл бұрын
Yes... and it is not browser specific. The browser is just one part of the fingerprint and at least for Facebook it is possible to just pattern match fingerprints to be able to recognize a user.
@thefirstmissinglink
@thefirstmissinglink 4 жыл бұрын
I really love the information you provide! Thank you for your work!
@ShreddingFinn
@ShreddingFinn 4 жыл бұрын
I was in college in some isp course when the teacher said, “Google just hit a million pages in their search index!”, lol about 20 years ago now they effectively run the world
@jag.5519
@jag.5519 4 жыл бұрын
feeling greatful for your efforts sir!!
@stevenhanlon7001
@stevenhanlon7001 3 жыл бұрын
Rob you are golden, made of gold, platinum, precious love. thank you namaste.
@jozefserf2024
@jozefserf2024 4 жыл бұрын
You'd have to be reckless to still be using Facebook in 2021.
@nieczerwony
@nieczerwony 4 жыл бұрын
Never had any SM Apart from YT. Never needed these in my life. Most people also don't need it. Centralizing anything is end of freedom. It's same with all cloud crap.
@ImHeadshotSniper
@ImHeadshotSniper 4 жыл бұрын
@@mmatous true. it sucks because instagram wasn't owned by facebook until only recently. i love instagram and of course hate facebook so i only run instagram on my phone with either the "Barinsta" instagram wrapper app, or i simply use Blokada vpn host blocker to block all kinds of analytics, ads, etc. while i use instagram
@blankpage9277
@blankpage9277 4 жыл бұрын
@@ImHeadshotSniper can you upload images when using Barinsta or no posts at all?
@ImHeadshotSniper
@ImHeadshotSniper 4 жыл бұрын
@@blankpage9277 unfortunately no posts i believe. other than that i really like the UI. they have placed liked and saved posts on your profile page, and the discovery page lists all categories including "for you" instead of instagrams forcing of showing "for you" automatically
@urbanstuff9950
@urbanstuff9950 4 жыл бұрын
@@mmatous Same thing
@lunes-1
@lunes-1 4 жыл бұрын
This is so depressing,surfing the internet isn't fun anymore,rather watch my📽🎬 dvd film collection,theres no trackers there.good video👍
@fredjones43
@fredjones43 4 жыл бұрын
What’s the difference? Google is so steeped in censorship, you can hardly find anything using google search anymore anyway.
@Hy-Brasil
@Hy-Brasil 4 жыл бұрын
@@fredjones43 i dont know if you are talking to cristina or someone else who deleted their comment but ,....are you really asking what the difference is between watching your PRIVATE DVD COLLECTION on your DVD player and surfing the internet full of spying trackers and other clingy garbage? they're not even on the same planet.
@fredjones43
@fredjones43 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hy-Brasil Not at all. What I meant was, why worry about trying to use google search anymore since they have messed it up so bad, you can’t find anything anymore. It ignores your specific query and answers something you did not ask it. As for using it to watch your dvd’s, I don’t believe it is terrible to do that if you limit that browser to you dvd’s and other google services. For everything else, use a different browser. Rob Braxman says in that way you can severely limit their tracking capability. I am assuming she is not using google to watch dvd’s she does not want it known she is watching? I assume she knows better than that.
@valeriehancotte-galan4790
@valeriehancotte-galan4790 4 жыл бұрын
Remember, smart TVs are watching us
@gorkyd7912
@gorkyd7912 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think this should be as depressing as people think it is. The depression comes from fear, the fear comes from the unknown; we don't know how much they know about us or how they're using it so it's scary. The more you know the less fearful you will be and the less depressed you will be. The insinuation is "Google knows everything you do online" or something like that, scary, but move past your fears and the truth is more like Google is a system of CCTV cameras on public streets. It sees little bits of your public life (browsing the internet) and that's it. It uses AI to try to make assumptions about you that it can use for its purposes. The assumptions are always wrong because browsing the internet even for a heavy internet user is not their entire life, but they can still be useful when aggregated across many, many users even with this very low acuity. If you've ever tried to advertise to users on Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, you will see just how bad these assumptions are by how they target your ads. Actually they know almost nothing, but the fear of these systems cripples dissidents needlessly and yes they are improving their information over time.
@kitmouser
@kitmouser 4 жыл бұрын
I've been using the term for a while but zucking and it's many forms is a favorite.
@superhandymanservice9413
@superhandymanservice9413 2 ай бұрын
I just found you looking around under security services for computers. You're fantastic. I'm going to try your browser isolation technique. I actually do a form of it already. I use one browser for one group of items and another browser for another group of items but, using Chrome for just Google related and then anyway. . . I'll give it a shot. Thanks!
@iamthat7351
@iamthat7351 4 жыл бұрын
So glad there are people like you Rob. Sharing knowledge like this in a time critical to practice it. Cheers Mate from Australia
@LLPOF
@LLPOF 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but I automatically trust advice from people of Asian descent. I think it goes back to my youth watching martial arts tv and movies. I know this is going to burn me one day but it hasn't so far. Love ya Rob. You are doing a great service and I hope your YT channel takes off big. Oh, I almost forgot. I have been using Ungoogled Chromium for quite a while now. I like it a lot.
@benedictvoon812
@benedictvoon812 4 жыл бұрын
The ONLY time you must not trust advice from people of Asian is CCP from China. CCP stands for China Criminal Party.
@desertodavid
@desertodavid 3 ай бұрын
@@misterniceguy67 whut?
@no1be4me2
@no1be4me2 Жыл бұрын
Saw something a couple days ago that I did not even know it exist A disposable browsers seem quite interesting and very secure As always appreciate your video! content and you sharing your knowledge with all of us big thanks in advance...
@toobalicious
@toobalicious 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this EXCELLENT information, Rob! Very understandable, useful and applicable to almost all of your audience.
@gyurilajos7220
@gyurilajos7220 6 ай бұрын
I've been using at least three browsers to different purposes. Yes browser isolation is a good designation. Also been doing phone isolation 10:12 too. Will be interesting to learn and compare in details. Problems like privacy define their own solution.
@thecrarion4102
@thecrarion4102 4 жыл бұрын
Man, this channel is GREAT.
@jacqc1533
@jacqc1533 4 жыл бұрын
Your channel & info is amazing for someone like me who has no tech savvy at all ... thank you for your advice it’s invaluable, I’m ordering a Linux phone too...
@vineesque
@vineesque 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Rob! Love from India🖤
@Miketz
@Miketz 3 жыл бұрын
I have been using and advocating this technique for years as well - I call it "Browser Sandboxing".
@ELLIS107
@ELLIS107 4 жыл бұрын
I am glad to have discovered this channel. Personally, I had been doing the privacy badger thing and not being careful enough about fingerprinting. Now I am going to change everything around and use several browsers. Thanks for the tip!
@TheTektronik
@TheTektronik 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reviewing yubikey Rob.
@michlsei
@michlsei 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I use the browser separation as well. Thanks for the tips with pihole and remove the adds ads there.
@robbraxmantech
@robbraxmantech 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@luckylarrikin1439
@luckylarrikin1439 4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Rob. I always tune-in to your shows.
@Yznewday777
@Yznewday777 4 жыл бұрын
Yes lots of love amd respect for this awesome dude .
@danponitlong
@danponitlong 2 жыл бұрын
THANK U SO MUCH FOR ALL THESE GREAT INFORMATION ABOUT MY PRIVACY
@goldenbananacaveman9899
@goldenbananacaveman9899 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone's favorite uncle. Thank you.
@noldor385
@noldor385 3 жыл бұрын
Next level. So I'll see you on Odyssey.
@patrickbeersingh9107
@patrickbeersingh9107 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I love you. Great job.
@Tealeafsong
@Tealeafsong 3 жыл бұрын
So helpful. I just bought a new device and I will be taking your advice as I set it up. Thank you.
@jonson856
@jonson856 4 жыл бұрын
Yay I've been slowly transitioning to doing all the things Brax suggested here, even before I watched the video. 👍
@mcmurdostation7134
@mcmurdostation7134 4 жыл бұрын
Best guy why i dont have any friends like u? I could possibly talk to you for days. Ask you things and get me learning all this stuff all day long lol
@bowlampar
@bowlampar 3 жыл бұрын
All browsers are good to use, some are better for certain tasks and few are the best for specific job. 👨🏻‍🎓👨🏻‍🎓
@brucehutchinson9527
@brucehutchinson9527 3 жыл бұрын
Overwhelming good information
@nancynancy123
@nancynancy123 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I really appreciate all your info!
@dennismcclelland8196
@dennismcclelland8196 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the work you do. I see in your description that you use alternative communications, like ham radio. I was just thinking the other day about what people would do if the powers that be decided to just flip the internet's off-switch. Not many even know what ham radio is, and even less know how to use it
@tomtremaine4452
@tomtremaine4452 2 жыл бұрын
thank you, for the advanced thinking. it feels great ....
@roiferreach100
@roiferreach100 4 жыл бұрын
I love this guys. I learned a lot. Thanks Rob.
@crazycuts6891
@crazycuts6891 4 жыл бұрын
This tutorial really helps:). So You have a additional subscriber, and keep up the excellent work:).
@sheikhshakilakhtar6844
@sheikhshakilakhtar6844 4 жыл бұрын
*Nix users can also include lynx and/or w3m to their workflow.
@ceruleanc505
@ceruleanc505 4 жыл бұрын
What about Startpage?
@josiet.2661
@josiet.2661 3 жыл бұрын
Just as ALWAYS good information 👌
@Jaymac0929
@Jaymac0929 4 жыл бұрын
History and cookies is correct. Thanks for the Update 👍😎
@thesnoflakes280
@thesnoflakes280 Жыл бұрын
love the dis info idea for Google and Facebook.
@iwannacutube
@iwannacutube 3 жыл бұрын
Simply wonderful!
@jeremymarquart1065
@jeremymarquart1065 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rob, thank you!
@realraven2000
@realraven2000 4 жыл бұрын
you should also separate the url from the search bar and disable suggestions in the url. the url bar should only suggest sites you have already entered
@tsol438
@tsol438 3 жыл бұрын
You, Sir are awesome!!!!!!
@davecalico3273
@davecalico3273 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob 4All U Do
@reichardkonige7306
@reichardkonige7306 4 жыл бұрын
Along with practicing separation of concerns with browsers/devices I use a user-agent add-on which lets me set and rotate key browser meta data on each session start. I've tested this as well with your fingerprinting site.
@truthseekinganarchist4629
@truthseekinganarchist4629 3 жыл бұрын
they'll know you have that add-on if you go to ip leak it'll be listed on your browser as something you have which will raise some red flags for them as you being a person of suspicious interest.
@chucke6016
@chucke6016 2 жыл бұрын
thanks Robert 😃😎
@withgoddess7164
@withgoddess7164 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you so much! 💝
@mmathews7724
@mmathews7724 3 жыл бұрын
I'd appreciate your opinion as I'm stuck on making a tough decision. I'm looking for an optimal web browser set up for maximum online privacy. I'm debating which of these 3 options is best. The first option is using 4 different web browsers, 1 for each (email, banking, shopping and general web browsing). Option 2 is using Firefox exclusively and having 4 different user profiles set up. Option 3 is to use just 1 Firefox user profile and create "containers". I love firefox and really prefer option 3 best then option 2 because it would be great using 1 browser. However, I'm thinking it will not offer the most security against fingerprinting and tracking. I'm new to all this and would greatly appreciate your suggestions!
@varunsharma6637
@varunsharma6637 4 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video! I never looked at it that way!
@4FJM
@4FJM 4 жыл бұрын
How does one "De-Google" an iPhone. I'm confused? Great info Rob. I never thought about the "3" web browser way of exploring the internet. Another question please.. is there a way to start "clean" on a Mac without having to have "erase" the hard drive?
@redds7
@redds7 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You Rob!
@CarlJones14
@CarlJones14 4 жыл бұрын
Great advice. I'm not a techie, so this stuff takes time to sink in. Please keep this info coming.👍
@PrepsteadingWithBelinda
@PrepsteadingWithBelinda 3 жыл бұрын
Great information thank you so much, I subscribed
@DavidIstre
@DavidIstre 4 жыл бұрын
To first begin browser isolation like this do I need to uninstall and reinstall my browser so that it is fresh?
@julianosilvan8860
@julianosilvan8860 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo, thank you 👏👏👏👏👏
@Hauser702
@Hauser702 4 жыл бұрын
This is THE BEST explanation I’ve heard on “choosing” a good browser for privacy. Thank you!
@lonew2657
@lonew2657 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this information.
@G-3-A-R-Z
@G-3-A-R-Z 4 жыл бұрын
Cool test. I love that. glad its hard to fingerprint me .lol Though i build my own social media icons. But I actually never thought of that.
@TheDeathmail
@TheDeathmail 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, there is so much I wish to change... but it's hard... once you started using these services, it's hard to change back... And I started a lot of this back when I was young and Facebook was new and these privacy issues weren't as much of a problem.
@justinlim5030
@justinlim5030 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative video about browsers! Just wanted to put it out there that at first glance he reminded me of FilthyFrank, was expecting a comedic segment but this would do
@kenwu7
@kenwu7 4 жыл бұрын
This was probably mentioned in a previous vid, but a user agent switcher for Firefox is a good tool.
@Chris-1465
@Chris-1465 3 жыл бұрын
As Rob said at the end of the video, if you screwed up or had previously not used browser isolation, is asking your Internet provider to provide you a new IP address another way to ”reset” your to fingerprint/ identity?
@SumedhaManabaranaKandy
@SumedhaManabaranaKandy Жыл бұрын
Highly interested in De-google phones. However, their availability seems to be limited to some selected countries. Patiently wating. Thank your global advice.
@aeebeecee3737
@aeebeecee3737 4 жыл бұрын
I think we need to build a more perfect web that allows users to test their privacy techniques, tell them whether their techniques are really helping them to avoid the tracking.
@jwill7848
@jwill7848 2 ай бұрын
How do I track like rob? Like where do I go to learn or is there any videos? I’ve always wanted to learn how to do this!
@onetallman76
@onetallman76 4 жыл бұрын
So much content I have to view 2 or 3 times :)
@dreww1818
@dreww1818 4 жыл бұрын
Rob Braxman 4 President :)
@1stClassGenesis
@1stClassGenesis 4 жыл бұрын
I’m curious to know your thoughts on Threema, specifically that it creates a Threema ID instead of requiring an identity attached to it which differs from the likes of Signal.
@michelnormandin8068
@michelnormandin8068 4 жыл бұрын
Opéra no add-ons is my general browser, FF no add-ons dedicated for Google and TOR for everything else. Out of the three FF is 'perceived' as privacy friendly. Try Opera to confirm or not that perception.
@gregbell2117
@gregbell2117 4 жыл бұрын
My browser fingerprint on your tool is different on every page reload. Complete with cookie blocking so one fingerprint can't be linked to the next, and I'm set. Also, I block JS not just for tracking reasons, but because I don't need code from all over the internet running on my computer - major security issue.
@Deviiie
@Deviiie 2 жыл бұрын
I usually use Virtual machines with freshly installed browsers and leave it as plain as possible with a VPN, I feel like that's a good strat too that falls under the same concept of isolation.
@paullavigne9741
@paullavigne9741 2 жыл бұрын
what vm do u recommend?
@burcakb1
@burcakb1 4 жыл бұрын
Firefox + multi-account containers + uBlock Origin goes a long way. I get a different fingerprint every time i visit your site and the cookies don't travel across the containers. I still keep a few browsers on hand like you for stuff i can't avoid. There's also a firefox plugin that misreports your computer (browser type, operating system, etc).
@robbraxmantech
@robbraxmantech 4 жыл бұрын
Once you log in to Google you get zucked. So you're doing all these complex things that will just cause you to make a mistake. You're logged in now to YT. My way is simple and absolute
@quickjumpingfoxes
@quickjumpingfoxes 4 жыл бұрын
Essential knowledge! I think, or thought, I was pretty savvy. NOW, not so much. Rob, do you have these tips written up somewhere so I can make a checklist?
@77darkghost77
@77darkghost77 4 жыл бұрын
I love your channel !
@21stcenturymetal31
@21stcenturymetal31 4 жыл бұрын
If using firefox get CanvasBlocker addon. Blocks all finger prints. Also use facebook container plugin if you're on facebook.
@slavaartyukh4075
@slavaartyukh4075 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm a simple user, but I like your videos. Thank you! When you get 2nd or 3rd browser should you transfer bookmarks and passwords from Chrome for all the websites you used with Chrome previously ? Or its better to manually type in ? Thanks if you answer 😊
@lanilyte
@lanilyte 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! If I use a different browser, on a different device, and I sign in to a website using the same credentials as my previous browser and device, seems like they will know it's me.
@realchrisma
@realchrisma 4 жыл бұрын
Brave has browser fingerprinting protection and it passes your test. Each request shows a different fingerprint. Thanks for writing your test and posting really informative content. I turn off JS on one of my browsers due to JS engine vulnerabilities.
@realchrisma
@realchrisma 4 жыл бұрын
Rob doesn't mention it in this video, but he tested Brave thoroughly a month ago and found it's not 100% foolproof. You should watch his Brave review to see its limitations.
@starletscarlet
@starletscarlet 2 жыл бұрын
brave also did shady things in the past with cryptocurrency referral codes and stuff
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