Breaking Arrows #2 - 30/48 - Ace Combat 4 Original Soundtrack

[@nolai9200]

Who would win: - The most skilled pilot of the whole franchise - a turning boi

[@VictorDeveze]

NOW I UNDERSTAND! As an Aerospace Engineer I can guarantee you it IS possible for an intercontinental missile to be maneuverable. There was a program during the Cold War to develop maneuverable intercontinental missiles. Ballistic missiles are just that, ballistic, like when you throw a ball. It has a ballistic trajectory, right? It goes up and then it goes down, and the direction doesn't change much besides the influence of the wind and drag. ICBMs (Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles) work the same way; therefore, after being launched, you can pretty much calculate the target within minutes of takeoff. So what a maneuverable intercontinental missile is that it IS capable of changing its trajectory in mid-flight! How? Playing with the Center of Gravity (CG) and the Aerodynamic Center (AC). So the AC doesn't change mid-flight, but the CG can change. To illustrate the CG grab a pen and try to balance it on one finger, congrats, that's the CG. So how do you change the CG mid-flight? You pump fluid from one part of the missile to another!!! Why does this matter? Well now, to illustrate what the AC is, use the same pen as before. Lift it with two fingers grabbing it from one end. What you are doing is applying force on a very small point; the AC is the point where the average of the aerodynamic forces are applied. That is, lift of course. So, is the AC in the same place as the CG? not necessarily, right? You balanced the pen somewhere it the middle but you can lift it from one end. The same concepts apply in missiles and aircraft. Why is this important? If you pick up the pen from one end, it will rotate around the CG (unless you grab it stiff enough,) same thing with a maneuverable intercontinental missile. Therefore, by changing the CG you can make the missile rotate and move around freely. This my friend, IS rocket science, not too hard right? So what happened? Well, imagine if the US was to test an ICBM, Russia sees that on the radar, they calculate the trajectory (assuming it IS an ICMB) and they say "oh well, it's gonna crash in the middle of the Atlantic", just another test, no worries. But then, it turns out it is NOT an ICMB, during mid flight it changes trajectory and it targets Moscow... all hell breaks loose and the World is now over. This made people very nervous, so both superpowers abandoned these type of programs. The thing is that nobody actually wanted to use nuclear weapons, they were just bluffing. In conclusion, yes an intercontinental missile can in fact be maneuverable, NO FICTION.

[@TheGeneralAshton]

You, sir, are a genius. Never knew that!

[@majormissile5596]

+Victor Hugo How much KSP did it take to figure that out?

[@Agent1W]

Or to put this all in one word: gyroscope.

[@Geoff69420]

A wizard did it.

[@spaceonisorceress4406]

While this is a legitimately cool bit of knowledge, I must note that anybody who seriously complained about maneuverable cruise missiles in a game where F-22s can hold 70+ missiles is being kind of pedantic...

[@ZetaMAGES]

Hah, AWACS telling you not to engage F-22’s, then you find the jackass missile that dodges everything, then you get a C rank.

[@theneighborsdog5625]

"Jackass Missile" lol

[@streamjumper2442]

*Shoots missle at last cruise missle for it to violently dodge at a 90 degree angle* Crap its AC2 all over again

[@VictorDeveze]

Guess what, I liked Ace Combat so much I'm now majoring in Aerospace Engineering.

[@spaceonisorceress4406]

+Cipher Good for you buddy! I would seriously consider it myself if, you know, I actually lived in Sweden.

[@SubzeroCitrus]

Going for it right now along with my Commercial Pilots license.

[@adorablecockroach5131]

I know I'm late, but I hope you are an ace. And if not then you will get there eventually. This games changes you.

[@TheRealArtimusKnight]

Ace combat got me into aviation and storytelling. I’m telling you this franchise changes you

[@mantha6912]

Did you graduate?

[@ViperMach5]

"That's strange, there's only one..."

[@danielsaldanha1520]

"The cruise missile is flying along the glacier." "Looks like a simple warhead, but keep your distance."

[@Azraelzstorm]

Ooh, I raged so hard during this part. Mobius 1: Hold still god damn it! *40 miles and closing* Me: STOP MOVING SO DAMN MUCH! *30 miles and closing* *shoots missile* *miss* AWACS: Missed! Mobius 1: I KNOW THAT I FUCKING MISS! *20 miles and closing* *Awacs starts freaking out, causing me to freak out* Me: SHUT UP! I AM TRYING TO FUCKING CONCENTRATE! *10 miles and closing in* *me panics uncontrollably* *shoots more desperately, and hit it* Me and Mobius 1: THANK YOU!

[@falken2089]

What the hell? Isn't hard to destroy that missile, just launch a missile, when the Nuke evades your missile, launch other 2 missile and thats all, other it's using the QAAM missiles

[@Azraelzstorm]

Falken2040 Bruh I was only 10 at the time lmao take a chill pill.

[@razorback139]

The nostalgia is real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Missed this game & AC5 & ACZ. Best Ace Combat Soundtrack!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@The_Wolf74]

AWACS: "Do not engage enemy fighters! Concentrate on shooting down the missile!"

[@spaceonisorceress4406]

Mobius 1: "Bitch please, I'm getting an S Rank."

[@kpjammerwolf330]

[@TacticalBaguette]

"No SkyEye you don't understand I can paint my F-22 black if I shoot that one down"

[@dice7584]

that drum pad is going nuts.

[@tomahaul]

Ow... I just read my comments from a year ago and it was painful, like shooting down the last missile.

[@spaceonisorceress4406]

I can sympathize; the only enemies more annoying than that fucking missile are Pasternak and Akula >.

[@munin9530]

For one to recognize and acknowledge their past leads to a good healthy future

[@jaypostromboli-jpgamertv-457]

Oh dear god, you reminded of my constant spamming of "Klonoa 2 < Ace Combat 04" comments...

[@jaypostromboli-jpgamertv-457]

@@spaceonisorceress4406 Pasternak at least had Malebolge as his theme, which was AMAZING.

[@RDD756]

this was my magic spear 2 stuck in my head to this day, too

[@MrPeanut624]

If you can get close enough to this missile, you can see the middle finger the Eruseans painted on it.

[@cappuccinogoodfinger]

When the last missile put up better fight than the Yellow Squadron...

[@sonicfan2004]

That part until 0:59 makes me think of an escape of a rain of enormously gigantic monster missiles falling in slow-motion from the sky..................... :3

[@halalcheck305]

I’ve seen you on the sf2 ost, did I not?

[@mattlatorre9084]

That last missile was such a pain to shoot down, but something about that huge bright explosion made it worth it. ^^ Like you just took out a nuke or something.

[@weir-t7y]

Because you did, hence "breaking arrows" Real nuke wouldn't go off from being shot down though

[@IslandThunder84]

who else thought the last missile was a nuke?

[@guineazilla6842]

***** N'aw, too small to be a nuke. Heavily resembles the Grunder Hypersthene (The MPBM from 0), looks like it has about the same, maybe a bit larger range. Acepedia says it was possibly a downgraded version of the Burst Missiles from 5's Scinfaxi.

[@andrewrogers6197]

+guineazilla Nuclear weapons don't explode with nearly as much power when blown up by a force other than a detonator. They normally wouldn't explode at all. Everything points to it being a nuclear weapon from the title referring to "broken arrow" which is a missing nuclear weapon, to the plane that launched the middle(the xb70) being designed specifically for nukes, they definitely are.

[@nickfury1279]

Nuclear devices can actually be made pretty small. However, despite that, I don’t think it was a nuke. Recall if you will, that one mission in Ace Combat Zero, where you have to stop a squadron of Belkan bombers carrying nukes who are en route to Ustio. After you destroy all the bombers and their escorts, the nukes are set off anyway. Right when they go off, the entire sky lights up in a blinding bright white, and then the shockwave slams into your plane. This missile seems more similar to the MPBMs that the Morgan from Zero carries. While not a nuke, it still would cause a lot of damage if it had reached its target

[@ntekniklaus3710]

i confused the northern lights for the explosion the first playthrough

[@rinzlerxiii]

In Strangereal dimension nukes were banned after Belka self-destruction. Only V2's survived... not even Megalith has nuclear capabilities. But there are some different technologies like burst missiles or railgun shockwaves...

[@Mx64MaxyImpress]

That drum intensity, remind me Freefall from Ace Combat 3 when we went to Space, also it was composed by Hiroshi Okubo as well

[@Jedimindset]

I need this game like right now. Going to dig my ps2 out just for a playthrough. Hope it still works.

[@danerfmasterr101]

I love how in Ace Combat 4 you had to worry about normal ballistic missiles and the below 2000 feet for stonehenge. And then my favorite game, Ace Combat 5 comes along with "Above 5000 feet" And freaking molten metal rain ballistic missiles with arkbird and well then.

[@Rigel_6]

AC:X had Gleipnir, and it was a bitch the first time - stay below it for too long - you get blasted with the shock cannon. You fly too high? The SWBM will take care of ya. And AC6 Aigaion? Below it you were completely invulnerable, but try flying above it - the flak cannons will tear you to shreds in a matter of seconds.

[@danerfmasterr101]

TrueKrimzonOne I've played Zero, Four, Five, and Six. I have to admit, Aigaion was hilariously easy if you had bombs on you. You could just fly over the fat monsters and drop it on them. I actually used the A-10 once and it was easy, but I preferred the F-35 or another fast plane that was easy to maneuver and could drop bombs; you could tell your allies to deal with the enemy squadron. Breaking Arrows just pissed me off for some reason. I almost broke my controller using the throttle, even with the X-02; I also went for the ace. I like Ace Combat 6 more because you don't need to kill your square button trying to open the map. It's just *bloop* and it opened lol. Favorite superplane and plane? My favorite SP is the CFA-44 Nosferatu, and favorite normal plane was usually the F-22 or SU-47.

[@Fighterpilot555]

Azarin Asinis I prefer to fly the X-02. It gives a nice feel, and isn't ridiculously overpowered like the Nosferatu or the FALKEN/Morgan

[@danerfmasterr101]

I don't really like the nosferatu as much anymore because you do one High-G turn and it stalls and basically falls out of the sky. Yes, the X-02 is a little more "Down to earth" (excuse the pun), but if I'm going to have a super plane, it's cool to have it super. Otherwise I'm fine with just flying an F-22 or SU-47. I think the falken is my favorite super plane now...

[@PaulFJarnes]

Getting an S rank in this mission is nightmarish

[@hoangtran4736]

It's doable. The trick is to get a fast plane that can reliably shoot down targets, everything else is irrelevant. Go for the su37, since it is both the fastest plane and has the most qaams (you cant get the wyvern until you s rank every mission). To get an s rank, you need to kill 2/3 of the following: the sr71 on top of the map, the ace also on top of the map, or the 2 f-22s that spawn later. With the su37 you can just barely do all 3, so 2 is plenty possible. Since qaams in ac4 are op broken, use the qaams for the planes. That way you dont waste time dog fighting the enemy planes, just qaam lock on, fire, and move on to the next target. The enemy will die after a while, it's almost guaranteed. You will probably need between 2-5 qaamd for the planes, so feel free to use the rest on the missiles.

[@RedRocky54]

Ah, the great dilemma of Broken Arrows. Do you pack XMAAs/XLAAs for the second wave, or QAAMs for the final missile?

[@bigmouthprick5852]

XxAAs for me because I can dogfight that last one.

[@aceof8S]

I just go back for refuel & switch-up, since I always have *_just_* enough time to do so :)

[@Gamer88334]

In the Ace Combat games, there are always missions where you’re going to be prepared for one part or another. You’re not allowed to be prepared for both parts.

[@theangrymilitant]

@@Gamer88334 And that’s why I love this series. Well, one of many reasons.

[@RAZER8514]

that was a direct hit WHAT AN EXPLOSION! landing forces saw from below and they wanted to extended there thanks.

[@Malick-ix9io]

Target is above operations airspace. We lost sight of the cruise missile! Abort mission! Abort the mission!

[@tomahaul]

At least I didn't make a "Broken Arrow" to the knee joke.

[@jobie2406]

Ha! I remember taking out 4 missiles in the same 3 seconds with 4 XMAA's. It was literally the bomb. Better yet, I liked how the missiles seemed autonomous and tried to avoid your attacks similar to living pilots.

[@VictorDeveze]

+Bolt Finder As an Aerospace Engineer I can guarantee you it IS possible. There was a program during the Cold War to develop maneuverable intercontinental missiles. Ballistic missiles are just that, ballistic, like when you throw a ball. It has a ballistic trajectory, right? It goes up and then it goes down, and the direction doesn't change much besides the influence of the wind and drag. ICBMs (Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles) work the same way; therefore, after being launched, you can pretty much calculate the target within minutes of takeoff. So what a maneuverable intercontinental missile is that it IS capable of changing its trajectory in mid-flight! How? Playing with the Center of Gravity (CG) and the Aerodynamic Center (AC). So the AC doesn't change mid-flight, but the CG can change. To illustrate the CG grab a pen and try to balance it on one finger, congrats, that's the CG. So how do you change the CG mid-flight? You pump fluid from one part of the missile to another!!! Why does this matter? Well now, to illustrate what the AC is, use the same pen as before. Lift it with two fingers grabbing it from one end. What you are doing is applying force on a very small point; the AC is the point where the average of the aerodynamic forces are applied. That is, lift of course. So, is the AC in the same place as the CG? not necessarily, right? You balanced the pen somewhere it the middle but you can lift it from one end. The same concepts apply in missiles and aircraft. Why is this important? If you pick up the pen from one end, it will rotate around the CG (unless you grab it stiff enough,) same thing with a maneuverable intercontinental missile. Therefore, by changing the CG you can make the missile rotate and move around freely. This my friend, IS rocket science, not too hard right? So what happened? Well, imagine if the US was to test an ICBM, Russia sees that on the radar, they calculate the trajectory (assuming it IS an ICMB) and they say "oh well, it's gonna crash in the middle of the Atlantic", just another test, no worries. But then, it turns out it is NOT an ICMB, during mid flight it changes trajectory and it targets Moscow... all hell breaks loose and the World is now over. This made people very nervous, so both superpowers abandoned these type of programs. The thing is that nobody actually wanted to use nuclear weapons, they were just bluffing. In conclusion, yes an intercontinental missile can in fact be maneuverable, NO FICTION.

[@jobie2406]

I have to admit, I like the explanation. I'm a fan of AI. Thanks anyway!

[@jobie2406]

So can these missiles be controlled both manually AND digitally? (On board or remote computer system)

[@fenrir517]

Imagine you failed to destroy the missile and AWACS say "you are a casual" then shut off screen and it said "want to retry campaign"? If you press no it will say "sike"

[@briarmason8737]

Might as well call this freaking missile a Sidewinder cause that's what it's like.

[@mza131313]

"Breaking Arrows" such a bad ass title.

[@sethmcintyre871]

Just Imagine the last missile going after the landing units instead it goes after you. That will be terrifying

[@Boatman9867]

That bastard missile dodged like 5 QAAMs!

[@jorgetoy3807]

But keep your distance....

[@Shortcarl]

Iranian cruise missile being chased by F-22A (circa 2021, WW3)

[@cipher0328]

Does anyone hear a lil bit of Magic Spear in here?

[@FINSuojeluskunta]

very good quality on this one, surprised

[@notJafar]

I was just glad the last missile wasn't aimed at me.

[@COD04MW]

Ten miles, hurry!

[@SleepyPopups.Unedited]

Idk wtf is the last missile, it seem to have similarities with Helios for sum reason

[@tomahaul]

Time for something original. Darn... I forgot what I wanted to say.

[@ciphowler8370]

Wow... How Original

[@chrisnolanos2393]

Mobius 1 engage all hostile cruse missiles. our forces on the northern shore are counting on you

[@八九式中戦車]

エースコンバット7のマジックスピアの元になってそう

[@Coastoghost]

Currently, over the Arctic circle...

[@dex1lsp]

This reminds me of Bowser's Road. Bowser's airspace? LOL

[@mariojimenez2746]

OP missile

[@darthteej1]

Sounds like they took some inspiration from Koopa Road. Has that same riff.

[@tomahaul]

"I used to be an adventurer like you, until I took an arrow to the knee." -Random Skyrim guard. People make stupid references to that quote and I really dislike them.

[@julianovieiraferreira9752]

drug smart missile too agile

[@REAPER55667798]

kinda sounds like a clock

[@trevelyandovah8479]

Why the hell does it fly like that?

[@ciphowler8370]

Knee Joke What Knee Joke?

[@chaffycrayfish4]

I still play this on my ps2 and I've beatin it 8 times I have everything but the last secret jet please help

[@tinylegofiend8605]

Ya Boi Papa Bless s ranks on all levels

[@nickfury1279]

S rank all missions on the normal difficulty to unlock the X-02 Wyvern

[@dice7584]

@@nickfury1279 I'm on the quest of doing it

[@notJafar]

I was just glad the last missile wasn't aimed at me.

[@notJafar]

I was just glad the last missile wasn't aimed at me.

[@notJafar]

I was just glad the last missile wasn't aimed at me.

[@notJafar]

I was just glad that last missile wasn't aimed at me.

[@notJafar]

I was just glad that last missile wasn't aimed at me.